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(National Review)   According to a new Gallup poll, conservatives now outnumber liberals in the US 2 to 1. "It seems that the tea parties, America's natural antibodies to Obamaism, have provided some vital stem-cell therapy"   (article.nationalreview.com) divider line 241
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2010-07-15 09:13:27 AM
... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?
 
2010-07-15 09:15:11 AM
Yup, there are only two choices: you're either a conservative or a liberal.

/Political nuance is a plot of the devil.
 
2010-07-15 09:15:17 AM
OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

Just research into certain lines of therapy, if I recall correctly.

Yes, basically.
 
2010-07-15 09:15:59 AM
OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.
 
2010-07-15 09:17:14 AM
Conservatives have always outnumbered liberals by that margin. It's why our government doesn't function. We get exactly what we vote for.
 
2010-07-15 09:21:04 AM
ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.


Just paying for it.
 
2010-07-15 09:29:01 AM
shirtsbyeric: ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

Just paying for it.


Not that either.
 
2010-07-15 09:35:10 AM
ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.


... pretty sure there's some serious flip-flopping going on.... surprise surprise.

/Maybe not "outlaw", but they certainly didn't support the research at all.
 
2010-07-15 09:38:32 AM
O RLY? where were they in 2006 and 2008? did they just suddenly spring forth, fully formed?
 
2010-07-15 09:38:55 AM
ne2d: shirtsbyeric: ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

Just paying for it.

Not that either.


To be specific the Republicans outlawed the federal funding of the use of or creation of any new stem cell lines created via donated fetal material. In effect retarding stem cell research by almost a decade, and making fetal stem cell human testing impossible because all of the selected lines were generated using chimeric biological material.
 
2010-07-15 09:43:26 AM
Code_Archeologist: To be specific the Republicans outlawed the federal funding of the use of or creation of any new stem cell lines created via donated fetal material. In effect retarding stem cell research by almost a decade, and making fetal stem cell human testing impossible because all of the selected lines were generated using chimeric biological material.

Yep... that's what I was thinking of.

/Cheers C_A
 
2010-07-15 09:43:32 AM
Republicans gave tons of support for stem cell therapy.
 
2010-07-15 09:43:35 AM
Code_Archeologist: ne2d: shirtsbyeric: ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

Just paying for it.

Not that either.

To be specific the Republicans outlawed the federal funding of the use of or creation of any new stem cell lines created via donated fetal material. In effect retarding stem cell research by almost a decade, and making fetal stem cell human testing impossible because all of the selected lines were generated using chimeric biological material.


But I guess that completely stopping all research isn't completely outlawing stem-cell research. It's just outlawing it 99%.
 
2010-07-15 09:45:25 AM
In other news, there is a rise in radicals who call themselves conservative...
 
2010-07-15 09:48:46 AM
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Antibodies don't work that way!
 
2010-07-15 09:51:35 AM
The Tea Party is more like the puss of an on going infection.
 
2010-07-15 09:53:25 AM
For those of you who didn't see the poll question here it is:

Do you identify yourself as conservative? Or as a liberal who hates America, rapes babies, tortures the elderly, and condones gay marriage and mandatory sodomy for all citizens 10 and over?
 
2010-07-15 09:53:40 AM
Code_Archeologist: ne2d: shirtsbyeric: ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

Just paying for it.

Not that either.

To be specific the Republicans outlawed the federal funding of the use of or creation of any new stem cell lines created via donated fetal material. In effect retarding stem cell research by almost a decade, and making fetal stem cell human testing impossible because all of the selected lines were generated using chimeric biological material.


What do you mean by "outlawed federal funding"?
 
2010-07-15 09:57:24 AM
Code_Archeologist: ne2d: shirtsbyeric: ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

Just paying for it.

Not that either.

To be specific the Republicans outlawed the federal funding of the use of or creation of any new stem cell lines created via donated fetal material. In effect retarding stem cell research by almost a decade, and making fetal stem cell human testing impossible because all of the selected lines were generated using chimeric biological material.


For additional (farked up) clarification, a few years ago scientists were able to start working with adult stem cells in ways that they were already doing with (discarded) embryonic stem cells 8 to 10 years prior.

It didn't *outlaw* it. But as you stated, it retarded it for nearly a decade. And the hope behind it was not that science would find a way, but get disinterested and stop playing God.

It was *always* a pet issue, piggy backing off of the abortion issue to try and garner votes from an angry base that didn't have anything left to be angry about. If you remember, the funding moratorium was put in place in the early part of 2001. Bush was throwing a bone to the fundies *and* the "team republican" voters. "Stick it to those evil libs who are killing babies to do super-science!" Then 9/11 happened, the moratorium stuck and nobody cared for 8 years until Obama lifted it in March of '09, two months after the first trials were approved by the FDA.

/They are on hold for a while. Apparently some rats developed cysts and they are trying to find out why.
 
2010-07-15 10:00:54 AM
I feel the need to point out that this "article" is nothing more than Jonah Goldberg retard WHARRRGARBL, so take everything with a HUGE grain of salt.

And FOAD, Jonah, you pathetic waste of skin.
 
2010-07-15 10:01:43 AM
Rev.K: Do you identify yourself as conservative? Or as a liberal who hates America, rapes babies, tortures the elderly, and condones gay marriage and mandatory sodomy for all citizens 10 and over?

Similar style on how the PQ phrased the last referendum question.
 
2010-07-15 10:02:33 AM
ne2d: Code_Archeologist: ne2d: shirtsbyeric: ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

Just paying for it.

Not that either.

To be specific the Republicans outlawed the federal funding of the use of or creation of any new stem cell lines created via donated fetal material. In effect retarding stem cell research by almost a decade, and making fetal stem cell human testing impossible because all of the selected lines were generated using chimeric biological material.

What do you mean by "outlawed federal funding"?


See: ACORN

We were paying for research. It was going well. In 2001, we stopped paying for research and it slammed the brakes on progress for 5 to 7 years.

It would be like LBJ ending all funding into space suits only. You can still fly a rocket to the moon, but you'll have to find another way to walk around on it.
 
2010-07-15 10:03:26 AM
ne2d
OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.


No, they didn't "outlaw" it. However, the reality is that the prohibition on federal funds for new stem cell lines had a very significant effect on the amount of research that could be done. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.
 
2010-07-15 10:04:48 AM
tnpir: I feel the need to point out that this "article" is nothing more than Jonah Goldberg retard WHARRRGARBL, so take everything with a HUGE grain of salt.

And FOAD, Jonah, you pathetic waste of skin.


What? We're talking about embryonic stem cell research now. Polls are for newbs.
 
2010-07-15 10:07:35 AM
OlafTheBent: Similar style on how the PQ phrased the last referendum question.

I heard they both use the same PR firm.
 
2010-07-15 10:07:44 AM
patrick767: ne2d
OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

No, they didn't "outlaw" it. However, the reality is that the prohibition on federal funds for new stem cell lines had a very significant effect on the amount of research that could be done. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.


There's the problem.

Ne2d is right, they didn't do anything at all to affect the legality of therapy. There was just no therapy ready for an additional 5 years minimum because of the prohibition of federal funding for research.
 
2010-07-15 10:08:32 AM
ne2d: Liberals, I go to a politics thread and make some snarky off-hand comment and they go apesh*t.



And needlessly vague and contrarian.
 
2010-07-15 10:09:41 AM
patrick767: No, they didn't "outlaw" it. However, the reality is that the prohibition on federal funds for new stem cell lines had a very significant effect on the amount of research that could be done. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

this, they also prevented labs that were doing stem cell research from receiving any NIH grants for any other research they wanted to do. Even if these other grants were for non-stem cell projects.

So the only way a scientist could do stem cell work was to be completely non-government funded. Not completely impossible (I know some that manged to swing it) but close to it.
 
2010-07-15 10:16:05 AM
ne2d: What do you mean by "outlawed federal funding"?

Just what I said. Any federal funding for scientific research which used one of the proscribed stem cell lines was canceled, and no research which used one of the proscribed stem cell lines could receive federal funding. That simple.
 
2010-07-15 10:20:21 AM
Now is the time for the GOP to call Obama's bluff and offer a real choice

matthewmundy.files.wordpress.com


/hot
 
2010-07-15 10:22:01 AM
"...have provided some vital stem-cell therapy."

There's nothing I loathe more than someone taking an issue from the other side, and being ever-so-clever by shooting it back at them, out of context and nearly incoherently. Like those guys who said "All these bailouts sellin' out our future, but who's gonna bail out Obama next November, eh?" It makes my toes curl.
 
2010-07-15 10:22:32 AM
Rev.K: OlafTheBent: Similar style on how the PQ phrased the last referendum question.

I heard they both use the same PR firm.


Sponsored by Bacardi?
 
2010-07-15 10:24:12 AM
According to a new Gallup poll, conservatives now outnumber liberals in the US 2 to 1.

I wonder what its like to only see politics through the liberal/conservative lens. Must be weird.
 
2010-07-15 10:24:34 AM
It's accurate since everyone defines liberal and conservative in the same way.
 
2010-07-15 10:24:38 AM
Obama is doomed. Jonah Goldberg is never wrong...about anything.
 
2010-07-15 10:26:53 AM
Did they count all the voices in their heads?
 
2010-07-15 10:45:24 AM
tnpir: I feel the need to point out that this "article" is nothing more than Jonah Goldberg

Thanks for the heads up.
 
2010-07-15 10:45:38 AM
And if only a True Conservative could arrive to abolish the Departments of Education and Energy, cut taxes to 15%, and ensure that the Free Market provides justice for all!

Because any time a professed conservative fails ... he/she is not a True Conservative.
 
2010-07-15 10:48:14 AM
ne2d: shirtsbyeric: ne2d: OlafTheBent: ... didn't the Republicans outlaw stem-cell therapy?

No.

Just paying for it.

Not that either.


Yes, they allowed it for anyone who wants to do it in their garage. They were so freedomy that Nancy Reagan even had to speak out against their freedoming.
 
2010-07-15 10:48:26 AM
Am I a liberal? Not really, no. It depends on the topic at hand.
Am I a conservative? Not really, no. It depends on the topic at hand.

Do I support the new conservative rush? No. It's fearmongering with thinly veiled racism and some of the most wondrous cognitive dissonance I've ever seen.

Do I support the new liberal rush? No. If only because they're fractured enough that their collective hold on power is about as schizo as my Great Aunt.
 
2010-07-15 10:49:31 AM
Party Boy: I wonder what its like to only see politics through the liberal/conservative lens. Must be weird.

There's not just liberals and conservatives, there's also Republicans.
 
2010-07-15 10:49:45 AM
According to a new Gallup poll of landline owners who answer their phones in the middle of the day, conservatives now outnumber liberals in the US 2 to 1.

FTFY
 
2010-07-15 10:49:57 AM
"Hello? Hello? ..... I am the President.... derp"

tomfaranda.typepad.com
 
2010-07-15 10:50:51 AM
Meh. The middle third flip flops like this all the time. This time around it is the right's propaganda machine doing what it does best: using fear to short circuit reason and facts in the minds of the gullible.
 
2010-07-15 10:51:07 AM
We're due for the same kind of landslide that propelled McCain to victory!
 
2010-07-15 10:51:34 AM
2 to 1? I hard recently that it was 80/20 (or 4 to 1, but 80/20 was the ratio as stated to me). Which makes me wonder which blimp-head pundit started floating this statistic. Anybody know? These things usually come from somewhere.
 
2010-07-15 10:51:35 AM
HellishPinkFuzz: According to a new Gallup poll of landline owners who answer their phones in the middle of the day, conservatives now outnumber liberals in the US 2 to 1.

FTFY


"According to a new poll of people who live in retirement homes..."
 
2010-07-15 10:52:09 AM
People don't vote that way.

*shrug*
 
2010-07-15 10:52:35 AM
Phil Herup: "Hello? Hello? ..... I am the President.... derp"

I think that picture really does sum up the Republicans.

/They can't even do a good photoshop.
 
2010-07-15 10:53:15 AM
Right on! Stake your future viability on the Tea party!

NPR did a story on the Tea Party yesterday. For a bit, I thought they had hired Rick Romero as a reporter. They were way too soft on the tea-baggers. Darned liberal media.
 
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