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2010-07-14 04:20:44 PM
Long Haired FM Type: Headso: Long Haired FM Type: Headso: Long Haired FM Type: Headso: The term liberal and conservative are not american labels only, they exist as general terms. American conservatives blow up buildings and kill doctors and afghani conservatives do the same thing, if the shoe fits...

So, since there are no legitimate geopolitical boundaries when using the two terms, I suppose I can lump you in with Pol Pot and Stalin as another one of those mass-murdering liberals, huh?

In a thread about conservatives it would just come off as whining but sure, whine away. In the Castro threads you should bring it up, that would be most opportune.

Although logic and honesty really gave you no other choice, I am nonetheless pleasantly surprised that you have conceded the point.

It would only work really well if you actually had liberals in this country doing the very exact same things they do in Afghanistan. You know, like killing doctors, and preachers of religions they don't like. If that were the case it would hit closer to home and get a better reaction.

Do I really need to google examples of violence from left-wing extremist groups in America in the last 50 years for you?

Please argue in good faith or go waste your time trolling someone else.


your facts are irrelevant!
 
2010-07-14 04:23:22 PM
Long Haired FM Type: Headso: Long Haired FM Type: Headso: Long Haired FM Type: Headso: The term liberal and conservative are not american labels only, they exist as general terms. American conservatives blow up buildings and kill doctors and afghani conservatives do the same thing, if the shoe fits...

So, since there are no legitimate geopolitical boundaries when using the two terms, I suppose I can lump you in with Pol Pot and Stalin as another one of those mass-murdering liberals, huh?

In a thread about conservatives it would just come off as whining but sure, whine away. In the Castro threads you should bring it up, that would be most opportune.

Although logic and honesty really gave you no other choice, I am nonetheless pleasantly surprised that you have conceded the point.

It would only work really well if you actually had liberals in this country doing the very exact same things they do in Afghanistan. You know, like killing doctors, and preachers of religions they don't like. If that were the case it would hit closer to home and get a better reaction.

Do I really need to google examples of violence from left-wing extremist groups in America in the last 50 years for you?

Please argue in good faith or go waste your time trolling someone else.


Are they all going to be from the 60s and 70s? Or is burning a parked car the same in your mind as a religious freak shooting a doctor?
 
2010-07-14 04:26:27 PM
As if being a suicide bomber who targets civilians doesn't make you a really bad person.
 
2010-07-14 04:28:19 PM
Listerine: Headso: The_Sponge: Headso: President Obama, White House: Al Qaeda Is Racist

Well, they are conservatives, are you surprised?


*Face Palm*

That's the most idiotic thing I've read all day.

I wonder what AQ thinks of gays and abortion?

It's a stupid comparison, given bin Laden's critical statements on capitalism and western economic structures that many American conservatives are fond of.

this

I suggest he adds a few letters onto his name

Headsofarupmyass
 
2010-07-14 04:28:33 PM
Oh please, there is no way Obama and the White House said this. No one can be this stupid.
 
2010-07-14 04:29:10 PM
Additionally, U.S. intelligence has indicated that al Qaeda leadership specifically targets and recruits black Africans to become suicide bombers because they believe that poor economic and social conditions make them more susceptible to recruitment than Arabs

I had read elsewhere that suicide bombers tended to be middle-class and educated because Al Qaeda views such missions as an honor and reserves them for its elite. This was a good thing for us because AQ basically killed their most able (and therefore most dangerous) people. If Obama is correct, I guess it means they have seen the problem of sending your most able recruits to certain death. This is bad news...for Obama.
 
2010-07-14 04:29:13 PM
Well he definitely couldn't be trying to make a point to the potential African recruits that Al Qaeda is just using them to dissuade them from joining the ranks of suicide bombers. That might be a strategic statement to help the US's cause. Let's talk about Obama playing the race card.
 
2010-07-14 04:31:33 PM
LargeCanine: I agree about AQ being racist and for the same reasons. I think the criticism of Obama on this issue is the reasoning - that AQ is racist because they only use black Africans for expendible low level troops. Seriously? An Affirmative Action complaint? Granted, he did also they they didn't value life.

I'm guessing the point of the comment is to try to stir dissention in their ranks. It doesn't make much sense if it's aimed exclusively at an American audience.

The White House might not be able to easily convince Random Sudanese Militant that America is their friend, but they might be able to convince RSM that Al'Qaeda isn't their friend.
 
2010-07-14 04:32:27 PM
You're saying that a bunch of politically backward, religious extremists are RACIST?! NO WAY!
 
2010-07-14 04:39:06 PM
Mr. Insightful:

In the recordings of Osama Bin Laden and the leadership that was captured, there are dozens of references to Africans with a derogatory Arabic name that roughly translates to "slaves".

So yes. They're racist.


[rant on]
Seriously people? Seriously? Obama plays the "race card" against Al Qaeda, and you're whining about it?

If Obama mentioned that there were significant racial overtones to Hitler's "purification" campaign, would you be cheering Glenn Beck on if he started characterizing that as "Obama doesn't like elected white leaders"?

Seriously?

Go DIAF.
[/rant off]


This.

Did any of you farkers actually read TFA:

(From US intelligence reports)

"Al Qaeda *recruits* have said that al Qaeda is racist against black members from West Africa because they are only used in lower level operations."

"In short," the *official* said, "al Qaeda is a racist organization that treats black Africans like cannon fodder and does not value human life."

Obama said:

"What you've seen in some of the statements that have been made by these terrorist organizations is that they do not regard African life as valuable in and of itself. They see it as a potential place where you can carry out ideological battles that kill innocents without regard to long-term consequences for their short-term tactical gains."

and

"And I think it presents a pretty clear contrast in terms of the future that most Africans want for themselves and their children," Mr. Obama said. "And we need to make sure that we are doing everything we can to support those who want to build, as opposed to want to destroy."

It's important to again emphasize this part of President Obama's statement: "they do not regard African life as valuable in and of itself."

There's where our outrage should lie, as well.

I also think it's a pretty good way to present a counter-narrative to Africans who otherwise might side with al Qaeda.

Speaking of cannon fodder, my dad did three tours in Vietnam. The front lines? Mostly youg African American and poor white men getting blown to bits. We did our share of recruiting of the disenfranchised.
 
2010-07-14 04:39:10 PM
I guess it's off to the thread about book banning conservatives right up the hall. I wonder what AQ thinks about banning books that are against their religion?
 
2010-07-14 04:39:19 PM
Look on the bright side - maybe now the Obama admin will go after them for hate crimes.
 
2010-07-14 04:39:31 PM
mark12A: Now maybe the Obamessiah will get serious about kicking al Qaeda ass...

Have you not been following the country of Afghanistan for the last two years? Or Pakistan?

Painting Obama as a dove simply doesn't agree with the facts on the ground. We have 94,000 troops in Afghanistan now, vs. 48,250 on June 1, 2008. The official bird of Waziristan is now the Predator.
 
2010-07-14 04:42:21 PM
girl6: I also think it's a pretty good way to present a counter-narrative to Africans who otherwise might side with al Qaeda.

To be fair, you're arguing with people that think we need to wave bigger American flags harder to solve all of our foreign policy problems.
 
2010-07-14 04:42:53 PM
Headso: I guess it's off to the thread about book banning conservatives right up the hall. I wonder what AQ thinks about banning books that are against their religion?

You're an obvious angry little troll at this point and will no longer be taken seriously in this thread, but feel free to hang around anyway.
 
2010-07-14 04:44:09 PM
So which race/ethnic group gets the "homicide bombing" missions?
 
2010-07-14 04:45:57 PM
Long Haired FM Type: Headso: I guess it's off to the thread about book banning conservatives right up the hall. I wonder what AQ thinks about banning books that are against their religion?

You're an obvious angry little troll at this point and will no longer be taken seriously in this thread, but feel free to hang around anyway.


Is that your version of a fatwa? needs work.
 
2010-07-14 04:46:11 PM
This is a transparent and silly book-end to yesterday's NAACP comedy routine all designed (with the help of our fabulous "objective" news media)to equate Obama's domestic political opponents with terrorists.

Just as bad and comical as Bush's similar attempts to paint the anti-war crowd as being "against us".

Any questions?

Read it again.
 
2010-07-14 04:50:50 PM
chimp_ninja:

girl6: I also think it's a pretty good way to present a counter-narrative to Africans who otherwise might side with al Qaeda.

To be fair, you're arguing with people that think we need to wave bigger American flags harder to solve all of our foreign policy problems.

I lol'd. It's funny because it's true.
 
2010-07-14 04:55:14 PM
Headso: Long Haired FM Type: Headso: I guess it's off to the thread about book banning conservatives right up the hall. I wonder what AQ thinks about banning books that are against their religion?

You're an obvious angry little troll at this point and will no longer be taken seriously in this thread, but feel free to hang around anyway.

Is that your version of a fatwa? needs work.


Your liberal paradise awaits:

missiledefense.files.wordpress.com

completely secular, no corporations, plenty of social programs, everyone has the same amount of $, so it's very fair.
 
2010-07-14 04:56:16 PM
soy_bomb: Oh please, there is no way Obama and the White House said this. No one can be this stupid.

Which part was stupid? Obama is laying out an argument against radical Islamic groups in Africa. I don't know if you noticed, but this is actually a problem in Africa, especially North Africa.

Goddamn people are stupid. It's as if conservatives can't see past next week.
 
2010-07-14 04:59:36 PM
Headso: Listerine: Headso: The_Sponge: Headso: President Obama, White House: Al Qaeda Is Racist

Well, they are conservatives, are you surprised?


*Face Palm*

That's the most idiotic thing I've read all day.

I wonder what AQ thinks of gays and abortion?

It's a stupid comparison, given bin Laden's critical statements on capitalism and western economic structures that many American conservatives are fond of.

The core principals of forcing religion on to the population and militaristic authoritarianism are there. I get it that the American conservative is more liberal and into creature comforts that capitalism provides, don't get me wrong.


Good grief, you are annoying. New HS graduate, stuck in the basement for the summer?
 
2010-07-14 05:00:52 PM
sparrow794: everyone has the same amount of $, so it's very fair.

The American liberal loves having more money than the conservative trailer trash in the next town, it brings out the elitism in us. So NK ain't gonna fly.
 
2010-07-14 05:05:40 PM
Headso: sparrow794: everyone has the same amount of $, so it's very fair.

The American liberal loves having more money than the conservative trailer trash in the next town, it brings out the elitism in us. So NK ain't gonna fly.


Did I forget to mention full gun control, zero racism, big government with lots of regulations?

Liberals love $? You don't say... and here I thought all they wanted to do was take it away from rich people so we could all be equal. Didn't realize they don't like equality. Guess that's why the ones in power don't bother to pay their taxes before they get their cabinet appointments.
 
2010-07-14 05:07:07 PM
sparrow794: and here I thought all they wanted to do was take it away from rich people so we could all be equal.

nope, they just fight for their own tax bracket and not for the one Rush Limbaugh tells them to, that is probably why you are confused.
 
2010-07-14 05:11:17 PM
sparrow794: Did I forget to mention full gun control?

Excellent point. Imagine how perfectly clean and safe the empty streets of Pyongyang are after dark thanks to the People's government's very progressive attitude towards fire-arms.

If you are shot to death, you can bleed out into the prison yard in peace knowing that at least the man who shot you wasn't a white American with a McCain sticker on his pick-up truck. No sir (or ma'am, or toddler) it was a highly trained, licensed government employee who never drones on and on about "rights" or any other such nonsense.
 
2010-07-14 05:16:45 PM
JerseyTim: redmid17: Has anyone ever shown these people the suicide bombers from the Israel/Palestine conflict?

Not everyone convincing people to strap bombs to themselves is Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda may have similar ideologies and tactics as Hamas and Hezbollah, but they're not the same organization.


I know that, but they're the same ethnicity, by and large. They just target poor people who want to get the fark out of wherever they are. This is farking rocket science. Human traffickers do it in Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe.
 
2010-07-14 05:49:00 PM
Set off a suicide bomb in a crowded marketplace full of innocent people? That's cool

Don't use affirmative action in your candidate selection process? That's racist! WOAH, YOU JUST CROSSED THE LINE!

I love the logic of liberals
 
2010-07-14 05:53:28 PM
wat
 
2010-07-14 06:01:23 PM
Headso: sparrow794: and here I thought all they wanted to do was take it away from rich people so we could all be equal.

nope, they just fight for their own tax bracket and not for the one Rush Limbaugh tells them to, that is probably why you are confused.


so not only do they not really care about equality, they're incredibly selfish... go figure.

Long Haired FM Type: sparrow794: Did I forget to mention full gun control?

Excellent point. Imagine how perfectly clean and safe the empty streets of Pyongyang are after dark thanks to the People's government's very progressive attitude towards fire-arms.

If you are shot to death, you can bleed out into the prison yard in peace knowing that at least the man who shot you wasn't a white American with a McCain sticker on his pick-up truck. No sir (or ma'am, or toddler) it was a highly trained, licensed government employee who never drones on and on about "rights" or any other such nonsense.


Exactly.
 
2010-07-14 06:09:00 PM
Probably just the Obama admin laying the groundwork to compare AZ to Al Qaeda at some point.
 
2010-07-14 06:27:51 PM
Sic the ACLU on them.
 
2010-07-14 06:27:52 PM
FTFA: "Speaking about the Uganda bombings, the president said, "What you've seen in some of the statements that have been made by these terrorist organizations is that they do not regard African life as valuable in and of itself. They see it as a potential place where you can carry out ideological battles that kill innocents without regard to long-term consequences for their short-term tactical gains."

You know who else carried out ideological battles that killed innocents without regard to long-term consequences for their short-term tactical gains?
 
2010-07-14 06:30:32 PM
Holy shiat! Barry just jumped the shark.

Apparently the terrorists never attack groups mostly consisting of caucasians like the British, the Spanish, or the Americans.
 
2010-07-14 06:31:32 PM
Listerine: is Obama farking retarded?

Yes!
 
2010-07-14 06:33:14 PM
redmid17: The White House is playing the race card with suicide bombers?

How can you tell? Whoever has lived to tell the tale of what color the suicide bomber was that killed them?
 
2010-07-14 07:02:56 PM
tevye77: redmid17: The White House is playing the race card with suicide bombers?

How can you tell? Whoever has lived to tell the tale of what color the suicide bomber was that killed them?


There have been plenty of botched suicide bombing attempts everywhere in the world. Those people are usually identifiable.
 
2010-07-14 07:11:47 PM
Obama broke the rules of World Series of Victimhood Poker, in which Muslims are more valuable than blacks.
 
2010-07-14 07:30:35 PM
Shvetz: soy_bomb: Oh please, there is no way Obama and the White House said this. No one can be this stupid.

Which part was stupid? Obama is laying out an argument against radical Islamic groups in Africa. I don't know if you noticed, but this is actually a problem in Africa, especially North Africa.

Goddamn people are stupid. It's as if conservatives can't see past next week.


Wow, someone actually read the article instead of going "derp derp Obama derp"
 
2010-07-14 07:59:08 PM
Listerine: is Obama farking retarded?

It wasn't Obama who said that. It was some weird official in his administration trying to "explain" his remarks afterward who threw in the race card.

The President said the terror groups were using Africa as a handy place to make quickie attacks without having to worry about the long-term results. It was the "unnamed official" who added:

"In short," the official said, "al Qaeda is a racist organization that treats black Africans like cannon fodder and does not value human life."

Which is NOT what the President said, and which IS really stupid and retarded and needs to be ridiculed as such.
 
2010-07-14 08:31:26 PM
Penman: Shvetz: soy_bomb: Oh please, there is no way Obama and the White House said this. No one can be this stupid.

Which part was stupid? Obama is laying out an argument against radical Islamic groups in Africa. I don't know if you noticed, but this is actually a problem in Africa, especially North Africa.

Goddamn people are stupid. It's as if conservatives can't see past next week.

Wow, someone actually read the article instead of going "derp derp Obama derp"


this
 
2010-07-14 09:22:58 PM
Headso: The term liberal and conservative are not american labels only, they exist as general terms. American conservatives blow up buildings and kill doctors and afghani conservatives do the same thing, if the shoe fits...

So much jackass and complete, profound idiocy.
 
2010-07-14 10:22:36 PM
Listerine: is Obama farking retarded?

I'm going to have to go with yes:

Speaking about the Uganda bombings, the president said, "What you've seen in some of the statements that have been made by these terrorist organizations is that they do not regard African life as valuable in and of itself. They see it as a potential place where you can carry out ideological battles that kill innocents without regard to long-term consequences for their short-term tactical gains."
 
2010-07-14 10:32:47 PM
xen0blue: Set off a suicide bomb in a crowded marketplace full of innocent people? That's cool

Don't use affirmative action in your candidate selection process? That's racist! WOAH, YOU JUST CROSSED THE LINE!

I love the logic of liberals


Who said that it was fine to blow up a marketplace full of innocent people? Really. Who said that? What liberal said that?
 
2010-07-14 11:27:59 PM
Muslims have been enslaving black africans for over 1000 years and they are still doing it.

newsflash for you liberals who want to build a mosque at ground zero and then marry your 13 year old cousins there.
 
2010-07-14 11:33:48 PM
thrgd456: newsflash for you liberals who want to build a mosque at ground zero and then marry your 13 year old cousins there.

FREEDOM OF RELIGION! Damn xenophobic tard.
 
2010-07-15 12:55:23 AM
See, what the would-be murderous black fanatical Islamists need is a "Rosa Parks" to wake the rest of the murderous fanatical Islamists up to the inequitable divide in their goals of killing all the kuffar or subjugating the entire planet to the will of Allah.

Too bad their Rosa isn't educated and lives her life in a stifling misogynistic bag - she's gonna have a hard time arguing for a seat at the front of the kill-the-disbeliever queue when she can't leave the house without escort.

/as lame as this post is, it makes more sense than Obama railing on al Qaeda for being racists
//I guess he just can't forget everything he learned under Jeremiah Wright
 
2010-07-15 04:15:59 AM
Next we'll have a press conference on how they're homophobic.

I think we're already behind the idea that al Qaeda is not a nice group. You don't need to keep throwing in comments about they also kicked a dog last week. This is seriously inane
 
2010-07-15 05:25:14 AM
Arcanum: Is this supposed to make an impact on anyone?

Quoting for unintentional hilarity.

/probably unintentional
 
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