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2010-07-13 01:25:52 PM  
Falcon Hunter: ...Like what, exactly?

From his website-Commissioner Sparks expanded the Food Safety Division so that more imported food is tested for harmful chemicals that have been banned in the United States. He has long been an advocate of protecting consumers with Country of Origin Labeling. Thousands of pounds of imported seafood have been stopped before being served on Alabama dinner tables. Sparks also dedicated resources to help Alabama become less dependent on foreign oil. He established the Center for Alternative Fuels to serve as a central hub for information in the field.

Sparks saw to it that the department made great strides in the area of child nutrition. He helped implement several new programs, including the Farm to School Program. He also worked closely with the Alabama Department of Education to help ensure that schools are serving healthy food to Alabama's children.

Under Commissioner Sparks' leadership, the department opened several new diagnostic labs. Sparks and his staff have also worked aggressively to help bring perpetrators of agriculture-related crimes to justice.

Sparks worked to open new markets for Alabama's farmers by meeting with national and international leaders, including the Secretary of Agriculture for the African Nation of Benin; the Mayor of New Delhi, India; the Agriculture Secretary for Italy; and Cuban President Fidel Castro.

From his website-Commissioner Sparks expanded the Food Safety Division so that more imported food is tested for harmful chemicals that have been banned in the United States. He has long been an advocate of protecting consumers with Country of Origin Labeling. Thousands of pounds of imported seafood have been stopped before being served on Alabama dinner tables. Sparks also dedicated resources to help Alabama become less dependent on foreign oil. He established the Center for Alternative Fuels to serve as a central hub for information in the field.

Sparks saw to it that the department made great strides in the area of child nutrition. He helped implement several new programs, including the Farm to School Program. He also worked closely with the Alabama Department of Education to help ensure that schools are serving healthy food to Alabama's children.

Under Commissioner Sparks' leadership, the department opened several new diagnostic labs. Sparks and his staff have also worked aggressively to help bring perpetrators of agriculture-related crimes to justice.

Sparks worked to open new markets for Alabama's farmers by meeting with national and international leaders, including the Secretary of Agriculture for the African Nation of Benin; the Mayor of New Delhi, India; the Agriculture Secretary for Italy; and Cuban President Fidel Castro.


And I didn't know until a couple of days ago that he moved most of the Ag Commission trucks off of gasoline and onto natural gas.
 
2010-07-13 01:26:50 PM  
Hobo Jr.: WCHeadhunter: Perhaps some of you Bama types can fill in the details but as I recall there was a a guy who ran for governor a few years back and got elected on the promise that he would bring the lottery to the state.

Don Siegelman. Later prosecuted for something like fraud for giving out no bid contracts. Most people think it was a hit job by Republican like Karl Rove.

I remember that well and sadly.


"The Karl Rove Defense" was absolute horseshiat. We hammered that story into oblivion. At my organization, we researched it, pursued it, investigated it (even worked with MSNBC and Dateline for several different segments regarding it) and repeatedly pressed Siegelman and his lawyers for ANYTHING that would support the allegations.

Nothing.

Every time Don granted an interview, he would repeat the same script time and time again without so much as a single document to support his claims. When pressed by us for evidence, he repeatedly stated "that information will come out in the coming days". It never surfaced.

Don Siegelman was capitalizing on the upwelling of negative sentiment toward the Bush administration and Karl Rove. It was a complete circus.
 
2010-07-13 01:35:24 PM  
Hobo Jr.: Falcon Hunter: ...Like what, exactly?

From his website-[etc, etc, etc]


I love copy-pasta for lunch.

I was looking for an analysis his "accomplishments" contrasted in a way that qualifies him for Governor over Byrnes/Bentley.
 
2010-07-13 01:37:15 PM  
I present 2 more fine examples of Alabama politics!

One example of an Alabama campaign ad (new window)

The follow-up ad... (new window)

As a northerner who moved down here for work reasons, I could write a novel about this place just based on the past 2.5 years - 30% unemployment in a nearby county and the current governor sending hundreds of state troopers to shut down the only expanding businesses in the state...

/anyone hiring back up in the N. IL/SE WI area?
 
2010-07-13 01:39:42 PM  
I think it needs to be said (because there is so much evidence to the contrary) that not everyone here in Alabama is an ignorant fundy religious redneck.

They are, however, the vocal majority. I weep for my state when I'm not laughing at it.
 
2010-07-13 01:41:38 PM  
Not so surprising to me, what does Alabama and Iran have in common?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114211/alabamians-iranians-common.aspx
 
2010-07-13 01:42:00 PM  
Mad Scientist: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Alabama sounds insufferable by every possible measure.

With the exception of college football national chamionships, you're not far wrong.


The less-than-desirable effect of college football on college education is one of my personal pet peeves. So personally, that does little to sway me.

/I realize 'insufferable' is a subjective thing.
//Your mileage may vary.
 
2010-07-13 01:43:30 PM  
We can make fun of the South. Yeah, they eat "grits" and put sugar in rice and fry everything else. Yes, they believe in God. Yes, they believe in patriotism. Yes, they are still a bit backward when it comes to acceptance of certain scientific principles which they perceive as a conflict with their faith. However, they are coming around. The newest genererations are abandoning the racism, regionalism and unquestioning faith of their parents.

In their defense, they are the backbone of this country. They make the best soldiers. If the shiat ever really hit the fan in this country I would take one of these "rednecks" over any five effete New Englanders. They are the salt of the Earth and the descendants of the Americans who carved this nation out of the wilderness.
 
2010-07-13 01:47:20 PM  
Bent_MG: I present 2 more fine examples of Alabama politics!

One example of an Alabama campaign ad (new window)

The follow-up ad... (new window)

As a northerner who moved down here for work reasons, I could write a novel about this place just based on the past 2.5 years - 30% unemployment in a nearby county and the current governor sending hundreds of state troopers to shut down the only expanding businesses in the state...

/anyone hiring back up in the N. IL/SE WI area?


If I get another Dale Peterson email in my inbox, I think I'll vomit..."and I mean business"...What a maroon!

During dinner last night we got calls from Bentley, Byrne and Margaret Mayfield (family court judge)....please, just leave me alone.

The whole Quincy's 777 Shorter fiaso was a huge black eye....
 
2010-07-13 01:48:15 PM  
I honestly stopped voting in any sort of local election once I moved here.

//Its Assabama, no Lolabama
///Been here since Hurricane Ivan
////God I hate this state and 99.9% of its population
 
2010-07-13 01:49:24 PM  
deciusmaximus: We can make fun of the South. Yeah, they eat "grits" and put sugar in rice and fry everything else. Yes, they believe in God. Yes, they believe in patriotism. Yes, they are still a bit backward when it comes to acceptance of certain scientific principles which they perceive as a conflict with their faith. However, they are coming around. The newest genererations are abandoning the racism, regionalism and unquestioning faith of their parents.

In their defense, they are the backbone of this country. They make the best soldiers. If the shiat ever really hit the fan in this country I would take one of these "rednecks" over any five effete New Englanders. They are the salt of the Earth and the descendants of the Americans who carved this nation out of the wilderness.


Good thing we "effete New Englanders" can just use the jedi mind trick on your "salt of the earth" hillbillies.
 
2010-07-13 01:49:57 PM  
Kriggerel: 36 posts into a thread that talks about evolution and Bevets isn't here yet...

Yea....how about no? No need to have him ruin another thread because he is so desperate for attention.
 
2010-07-13 01:54:23 PM  
I am a northern transplant here in Birmingham, AL.

The commercial where the other candidate "accuses" Byrne of believing in evolution is hysterical. My girlfriend lives between here and NYC for her work. She called me at work one day because she had just seen the commercial and was in absolute shock. I told her, "Welcome to the South".

Come back ya'll now, ya hear!....But not too soon.
 
2010-07-13 01:55:07 PM  
Dimming: I've been to alabama (t-town), and can attest that it is not a real state. It's just a part of the red-headed step child we call the South.

Aww, someone sounds a little grumpy. I guess its hard to get any "alone time" when you live in a state with a population density of 583 people per square mile(09). That's 6.28 times Alabama dont-cha know. And of course as a contributing member of the GNP, Alabama had almost twice the Manufacturers shipment$ as MD. Hmm, less shipments and bigger population. It seems that individual Alabamians contribute $14 each to the GstateP while Marylanders contribute $6 (based on the above, YMMV). If you cut out the South, who would support your welfare state?

/born in AlaBama
/so what if it has some idiosyncrasies, you read Fark!
 
2010-07-13 01:57:57 PM  
As a northerner transplanted to the south there are some things about southern culture I absolutely love. They, like the British have a long tradition of accepting eccentrics. They are neighborly and they teach their kids manners. They are tough as nails in the face of adversity. Their greatest compliment is "you're okay for a yankee".

I try and avoid talking about religion. Also, I avoid saying things like "Sherman should have finished the job", "whats the appeal of NASCAR" or "who the hell is Merle Haggard"?
 
2010-07-13 02:01:56 PM  
deciusmaximus: As a northerner transplanted to the south there are some things about southern culture I absolutely love. They, like the British have a long tradition of accepting eccentrics. They are neighborly and they teach their kids manners. They are tough as nails in the face of adversity. Their greatest compliment is "you're okay for a yankee".

I try and avoid talking about religion. Also, I avoid saying things like "Sherman should have finished the job", "whats the appeal of NASCAR" or "who the hell is Merle Haggard"?


That reminds me. Last time I was in Atlanta, a girl asked me where I work. When I said NASDAQ, she replied, "You race cars for a living? Cool."

The cons just outweight the pros dude. Can't surround myself with dummies.
 
2010-07-13 02:02:36 PM  
charttn: I guess its hard to get any "alone time" when you live in a state with a population density of 583 people per square mile(09). That's 6.28 times Alabama dont-cha know. And of course as a contributing member of the GNP, Alabama had almost twice the Manufacturers shipment$ as MD. Hmm, less shipments and bigger population. It seems that individual Alabamians contribute $14 each to the GstateP while Marylanders contribute $6 (based on the above, YMMV). If you cut out the South, who would support your welfare state?

i27.tinypic.com

The horror.

/bonus points to you for having to look up stats on Wikipedia or the CIA world factbook to trumpet in your post.
 
2010-07-13 02:05:29 PM  
It's Alabama. Like every other state, they don't deserve smart politicians. And they probably won't get one.
 
2010-07-13 02:08:44 PM  
...none of thee above??
 
2010-07-13 02:09:29 PM  
wmchase65: Not so surprising to me, what does Alabama and Iran have in common?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114211/alabamians-iranians-common.aspx


OK, I'll feed the troll:

If you actually RTFA, it mentions that both are near the median worldwide percentage.

/what was your point again?
//'bamian who can read... better than you
 
2010-07-13 02:21:24 PM  
Falcon Hunter: I was looking for an analysis his "accomplishments" contrasted in a way that qualifies him for Governor over Byrnes/Bentley.

Okay, he did those things. Byrnes and Bentley haven't done anything. Seriously, those two haven't done anything worthwhile to even mention. Bentley was a doctor and Byrne had some position in the 2 year college system. They are the Repubs with the most money.
 
2010-07-13 02:22:31 PM  
Bent_MG: I present 2 more fine examples of Alabama politics!

One example of an Alabama campaign ad (new window)

The follow-up ad... (new window)

As a northerner who moved down here for work reasons, I could write a novel about this place just based on the past 2.5 years - 30% unemployment in a nearby county and the current governor sending hundreds of state troopers to shut down the only expanding businesses in the state...


Oh, you mean the illegal gambling halls in Marengo County and the Birmingham Race Track in Jefferson County? Surely you must have been implying that illegal gambling was the only expanding business in the state. Sadly, your ignorant trolling is devoid of any fact. Mercedes is set to add 1000 jobs in the next few weeks, business is booming in Madison and Huntsville, and Birmingham and the surrounding areas are experiencing renewed growth since the recession.

There's plenty of employment available in Jefferson, Shelby, Limestone, Madison and Blount counties. But don't let actual facts get in the way of your haterade binge.

Of course, you have to be willing to actually work.

/anyone hiring back up in the N. IL/SE WI area?

If they are, you might wanna take them up on it while you can. You won't be missed here with an attitude like yours.
 
2010-07-13 02:24:28 PM  
Hobo Jr.: Falcon Hunter: I was looking for an analysis his "accomplishments" contrasted in a way that qualifies him for Governor over Byrnes/Bentley.

Okay, he did those things. Byrnes and Bentley haven't done anything. Seriously, those two haven't done anything worthwhile to even mention. Bentley was a doctor and Byrne had some position in the 2 year college system. They are the Repubs with the most money.


You know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?

>
 
2010-07-13 02:24:29 PM  
LouDobbsAwaaaay: The horror.
/bonus points to you for having to look up stats on Wikipedia or the CIA world factbook to trumpet in your post.


GREAT! Bonus points ssscooorrreee!
REf: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36000.html
/nice chart though, the colors really stand out.
 
2010-07-13 02:24:41 PM  
charttn: Dimming: I've been to alabama (t-town), and can attest that it is not a real state. It's just a part of the red-headed step child we call the South.

Aww, someone sounds a little grumpy. I guess its hard to get any "alone time" when you live in a state with a population density of 583 people per square mile(09). That's 6.28 times Alabama dont-cha know. And of course as a contributing member of the GNP, Alabama had almost twice the Manufacturers shipment$ as MD. Hmm, less shipments and bigger population. It seems that individual Alabamians contribute $14 each to the GstateP while Marylanders contribute $6 (based on the above, YMMV). If you cut out the South, who would support your welfare state?

/born in AlaBama
/so what if it has some idiosyncrasies, you read Fark!


It was cute of you to use your google machine to look up those facts, and I'm sure you worked really hard at it. Bravo. While I'm not entirely sure what your point is, my original statement still stands: alabamba sucks balls.
 
2010-07-13 02:25:17 PM  
And so does my spelling. Alabamba...sheesh.
 
2010-07-13 02:27:45 PM  
Jeff Daniels vs. Jim Carrey?
 
2010-07-13 02:29:16 PM  
sinanju: pwhp_67: pvrhye: I can't believe someone would allow himself to be seen supporting creationism in public. Is Alabama really that backwards?

In tonight's Republican debate 3 candidates raised their hand when asked if they do NOT agree/believe in evolution:

Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee
Representative Tom Tancredo (R-CO)


I don't believe in evolution, either. I accept it (and related notions, like lateral gene transfer) as the current, best model to describe a set of evidence. To believe in something is to accept it without evidence. I don't believe in anything.


You're confusing belief with faith.
 
2010-07-13 02:29:38 PM  
Dimming: While I'm not entirely sure what your point is, my original statement still stands: alabamba sucks balls.

i31.tinypic.com

I knew it.
 
2010-07-13 02:30:16 PM  
BarnabusJ: I honestly stopped voting in any sort of local election once I moved here.

//Its Assabama, no Lolabama
///Been here since Hurricane Ivan
////God I hate this state and 99.9% of its population


And you'll be leaving when? If you've been here so long, you must really like it! Is it the lower property taxes? The recession proof housing market? The lack of a nanny-state telling you what you can and can't do?

Chances are, if you're unhappy here, you'll be unhappy anywhere you go and you'll find something to whine about there too.

Grow up, kid.
 
2010-07-13 02:31:47 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Being a science teacher in Alabama is one of the warning signs for suicide.

The year I lived in alabama, my science teacher was also a gym coach. I don't remember his name, but we all ways called him "Coach Smith" or whatever. Or "sir".

Nice guy, good at breaking up fights.
 
2010-07-13 02:33:16 PM  
Falcon Hunter: The lack of a nanny-state telling you what you can and can't do?

Oh that is very much alive in Alabama, what with the social conservatism and all.
It's not like gay marriage, marijuana, gambling, or prostitution are legal there.
Not saying the rest of the US is much better in that regard, just saying don't fool yourself, you have a nanny state too.
 
2010-07-13 02:33:41 PM  
Falcon Hunter: Hobo Jr.: Falcon Hunter: I was looking for an analysis his "accomplishments" contrasted in a way that qualifies him for Governor over Byrnes/Bentley.

Okay, he did those things. Byrnes and Bentley haven't done anything. Seriously, those two haven't done anything worthwhile to even mention. Bentley was a doctor and Byrne had some position in the 2 year college system. They are the Repubs with the most money.

You know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?

>


Bentley was Bear Bryant's physician. That's a pretty substantial accomplishment for most in Alabama and will win a load of votes, but I'm not impressed.

/WAR EAGLE
//Just returned to my office from the Thompson Bishop Sparks State Diagnostic Laboratory.
 
2010-07-13 02:34:02 PM  
cmb53208: My tin-foil hat theory? The parties trot out whackjobs to keep the people who read at more than a third grade level from the polls. And this is hardly a southern thing: I don't think I need to remind people about Michelle Bachmann, John Boehner, and Sarah Palin do I?

I'm currently boning a woman who marched in a parade for Bachman. We don't talk politics. Ever. When she tries, I stick my cock in her whore mouth to shut her up.
 
2010-07-13 02:34:42 PM  
Dimming: charttn: Dimming: I've been to alabama (t-town), and can attest that it is not a real state. It's just a part of the red-headed step child we call the South.

Aww, someone sounds a little grumpy. I guess its hard to get any "alone time" when you live in a state with a population density of 583 people per square mile(09). That's 6.28 times Alabama dont-cha know. And of course as a contributing member of the GNP, Alabama had almost twice the Manufacturers shipment$ as MD. Hmm, less shipments and bigger population. It seems that individual Alabamians contribute $14 each to the GstateP while Marylanders contribute $6 (based on the above, YMMV). If you cut out the South, who would support your welfare state?

/born in AlaBama
/so what if it has some idiosyncrasies, you read Fark!

It was cute of you to use your google machine to look up those facts, and I'm sure you worked really hard at it. Bravo. While I'm not entirely sure what your point is, my original statement still stands: alabamba sucks balls.


So what were you doing here? Did someone attend law school in T-town?
I'm anxious to see what's so defensible about Maryland in contrast to Alabama. In addition, Tuscaloosa is still a simple college town. Try visiting a real Metro Area next time. I'll happily cite places I've visited in Maryland that deserve to be burned off the map.
 
2010-07-13 02:37:39 PM  
charttn: Dimming: I've been to alabama (t-town), and can attest that it is not a real state. It's just a part of the red-headed step child we call the South.

Aww, someone sounds a little grumpy. I guess its hard to get any "alone time" when you live in a state with a population density of 583 people per square mile(09). That's 6.28 times Alabama dont-cha know. And of course as a contributing member of the GNP, Alabama had almost twice the Manufacturers shipment$ as MD. Hmm, less shipments and bigger population. It seems that individual Alabamians contribute $14 each to the GstateP while Marylanders contribute $6 (based on the above, YMMV). If you cut out the South, who would support your welfare state?

/born in AlaBama
/so what if it has some idiosyncrasies, you read Fark!


Living in Alabama vs living in Maryland...really, a complete no brainer
 
2010-07-13 02:37:52 PM  
ACallForPeace: Falcon Hunter: The lack of a nanny-state telling you what you can and can't do?

Oh that is very much alive in Alabama, what with the social conservatism and all.
It's not like gay marriage, marijuana, gambling, or prostitution are legal there.
Not saying the rest of the US is much better in that regard, just saying don't fool yourself, you have a nanny state too.


Your argument makes no sense. Who the fark cites those issues as an example of a nanny state? That's like saying California is a nanny state because they allow medical pot but still criminalize heroin use. WTF?
 
2010-07-13 02:38:52 PM  
I was down there recently for work and saw some of the recent ads first hand. Boy is it messed up. Trying to out-teabag yourself to run a state is not a good plan for the future. I was so glad to fly out of there.
 
2010-07-13 02:44:02 PM  
Falcon Hunter: Your argument makes no sense. Who the fark cites those issues as an example of a nanny state? That's like saying California is a nanny state because they allow medical pot but still criminalize heroin use. WTF?

Oh you meant your state wasn't that kind of nanny state.
It's still a nanny state, however you wanna put it.
And none of the examples I provided present danger equal to the use of heroin.
Gay marriage is a matter of people being able to sign a contract, gambling is the ability for an individual to spend their money how they choose, prostitution is the ability for two consenting adults to pay another cash for sex.
Marijuana is not comparable to heroin in severity.
So yes, it's a nanny state, no matter how much you wanna say "but I meant specifically this this and this".
 
2010-07-13 02:53:27 PM  
Dimming: While I'm not entirely sure what your point is, my original statement still stands: alabamba sucks balls.

What's with the generic hate? Where you gang raped in Tuscaloosa???
Or trying to think of anything other than football during a Bama football game? (I don't particularly like football but Bama is hardly the only place that does this.) Next time try Huntsville. The rocket scientists are a lot of fun. Or try Mobile if you still want to have a safe Mardi Gras experience. Try Scottsboro if you have lost something on an airplane.
 
2010-07-13 02:55:20 PM  
As a reluctant Alabamian, the political stuff here just blows my mind. And I was born and raised in Louisiana, home of the famous "I'll only lose this election if they catch me in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

This state is not quite as farked as it used to be. Rebel flags do still fly here, though not as many as at one time. MLK day is jointly celebrated with Robert E Lee Day. You can buy a "Sons of the Confederacy" license plate from the DMV.

Alabama white guy etiquette protip: There's a lot of shiat that goes down here that would not be tolerated anywhere else, but most of it is at least not done overtly, or among people you don't know. Meaning, if the n-word is going to be used, you have to meet someone 2 or 3 times before that happens. If someone does drop the bomb, and you don't return the favor, it does not get mentioned again.
 
2010-07-13 02:59:52 PM  
Falcon Hunter: You know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?

You mean that he wasn't the chancellor of the two year college system, as it says on his campaign website.

"Most recently, Bradley was appointed by the Alabama State Board of Education in May 2007 as Chancellor of the Alabama Department of Postsecondary Education, to serve as the chief executive officer of Alabama's two-year college system."
 
2010-07-13 03:01:33 PM  
deciusmaximus: "In their defense, they are the backbone of this country. They make the best soldiers. If the shiat ever really hit the fan in this country I would take one of these "rednecks" over any five effete New Englanders. They are the salt of the Earth and the descendants of the Americans who carved this nation out of the wilderness."

If the shiat ever hits the fan, it'll be because they were riled up by right wing ideologues and talked into staging some sort of revolution. I want to admire them. Really, I do. It's just sort of difficult when it seems plausible that, should Obama win reelection, they'll be shooting at me shortly thereafter.
 
2010-07-13 03:03:04 PM  
lennavan: This is the scariest part of the article for me:

When a teachers-union-backed PAC attacked Byrne by saying that he supported the teaching of evolution in schools Byrne defended himself, at length

The teachers are the ones attacking him for supporting the teaching of evolution. Ouch. Apparently that union doesn't have any science teachers in it.


Unfortunately, you'd be wrong. I dated a science teacher here in Birmingham, AL. She not only was a creationist but thought that drinking a glass of wine was a mortal sin. During a conversation about creation/evolution, she revealed she thought that maybe the dinosaurs were brought aboard Noah's ark as eggs, since they would have been too big to fit on it in their full size. Yes, she believed dinosaurs and people coexisted. Apparently the Flintstones was historically accurate for her. And I'm not making any of this up.

She was pretty and had huge tits though, so I asked her out on a second date...
 
2010-07-13 03:03:46 PM  
shroom:

You are correct on the AEA PACT.

I love (and hate) Alabama politics. It's so entertaining (and pathetic).

We in Alabama like to take two steps back after a good leap forward. We elected "Big Jim" Folsom in the 40s and he was one of the first Southern governors to denounce segregation. Progress, right? No, he's most remembered for getting hammered and then doing a TV interview on the steps of the state Capitol.
 
2010-07-13 03:08:18 PM  
boko: The teachers are the ones attacking him for supporting the teaching of evolution. Ouch. Apparently that union doesn't have any science teachers in it.

Unfortunately, you'd be wrong. I dated a science teacher here in Birmingham, AL. She not only was a creationist but thought that drinking a glass of wine was a mortal sin. During a conversation about creation/evolution, she revealed she thought that maybe the dinosaurs were brought aboard Noah's ark as eggs, since they would have been too big to fit on it in their full size. Yes, she believed dinosaurs and people coexisted. Apparently the Flintstones was historically accurate for her. And I'm not making any of this up.


That hurts my soul.
 
2010-07-13 03:13:15 PM  
img341.imageshack.us

How the north sees southerners.

A bunch of toothless sister farking hillbillies drunk on moonshine.

img690.imageshack.us

How the south sees northerners.

A bunch of godless hippies, probably communist and high on dope.
 
2010-07-13 03:16:53 PM  
Zamboro

deciusmaximus: "In their defense, they are the backbone of this country. They make the best soldiers. If the shiat ever really hit the fan in this country I would take one of these "rednecks" over any five effete New Englanders. They are the salt of the Earth and the descendants of the Americans who carved this nation out of the wilderness."

If the shiat ever hits the fan, it'll be because they were riled up by right wing ideologues and talked into staging some sort of revolution. I want to admire them. Really, I do. It's just sort of difficult when it seems plausible that, should Obama win reelection, they'll be shooting at me shortly thereafter.


Doubtful. At least until you have the first amendment changed to read "Congress shall make no law permitting religion".
 
2010-07-13 03:23:37 PM  
PScooter63: If you actually RTFA, it mentions that both are near the median worldwide percentage.

/what was your point again?
//'bamian who can read... better than you


The point was the Southern US shares an ignorant world-view with the poorest and least developed half of the world. Congratulations, you belong with the "special" places like Iran.
 
2010-07-13 03:24:43 PM  
FTFA: On top of all this, turnout is expected to be low. So low, in fact, that some have even suggested the door is open for Democrat crossover voting to affect the outcome.

OK dudes I am an Alabama Democrat. Which candidate should I cross party lines and vote for to screw up the outcome? I know it is unethical but since Rush Limbaugh said it was OK for Republican voters to do it to screw up Democratic presidential primaries; I figured it would be OK for me to do it. Rush says it is OK.

OK FARKers here is your chance to cast a vote via proxy in an Alabama election! Who should I vote for?
 
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