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(Some Guy)   Furthering their all out war on quenching thirst, San Francisco looking to ban bottled water at all events on city property   (blogs.sfweekly.com) divider line 195
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2010-07-12 07:26:25 PM
God willing, we will prevail in peace and freedom from fear and in true health through the purity and essence of our natural fluids.
 
2010-07-12 07:26:39 PM
suraimu: TheShavingofOccam123: no soda, no water. the only thing you can drink is the atomized bodily excretions of people standing near you.

/really more of smelling than drinking but if you have large nostrils you could quench your thirst

And soon, since those people have nothing left to drink, even their sweat will stop production and what then, good sir?

/And still I pee.


Oily dandruff?
 
2010-07-12 07:27:08 PM
You can take bottled water away, fine.

But you will have to pry my Camelbak from my cold dead hands.
 
2010-07-12 07:27:15 PM
For the most part bottled water is the worst rip off i can imagine. Fizzy water is one thing but just plain water for $1.39 a pint? I imagine the guys at the Head of the Dasani division of Coca Cola laughing their asses off.

\will buy it if no other choice
\\do not own a TV
 
2010-07-12 07:27:54 PM
It's all been done before

/drinks bottled water by the gallon
//Not Dasani but the serious gourmet shiat
 
2010-07-12 07:28:11 PM
I think it's just part of a master plan to drive people out of SF. First the thing about not selling pets except fish, now no bottled water...next they won't allow less than 250-thread count sheets and you'll have to wear sandals year-round.

Soon nobody will want to live there!
 
2010-07-12 07:28:39 PM
Belua: snuffy: ultraholland: snuffy: do you mean they are going to make them drink that stuff coming out of the tap?

I, for one, am a huge fan of municipal tap and thoroughly enjoy sampling public waters from around the world

me too, i have never bought at bottle of drinking water.

So you're really saying that you have never driven down the road 100 miles from anywhere, when is hot out and everything in your car is steaming, stopped at a 7-11 and bought a bottle of ice cold water? Really? You must not get out much. Work in an office with a drinking fountain? Maybe your delivery van has a refrig? Or do you know someone everywhere you go and they allow you to use their faucets?


hell i live 199 miles from anywhere. but, i never leave the house without a large travel mug full of iced wyler's lemonade and if i'm going to be gone for a while, i'll bring a small ice chest with a sealed container to refill my mug.

so you are wrong and i stay refreshed. i'm just not paying out the ass to do it.
 
2010-07-12 07:28:56 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Gordian Cipher: The_Six_Fingered_Man: They'll even provide or sell reuseable containers that you can fill from a cistern or water fountain.

A San Fran water fountain?! That is revolting. Unless there is someone standing next to it 24/7 and keeping the bums from bathing/peeing in it and sanitizing it after each use and making sure that someone cleans the filter (most places don't clean their water fountain filters), then maybe I'd drink out of it.

Yes, I refill my water bottles at home whenever possible. Yes, I drank tap water in every place I've been. But I still like having the freedom to buy the beverage of my choice when I am out and about. I could balloon up like you diabetic snobs that look down on me with my water, but I can still walk to do my errands while you wheeze getting out of your cars.
 
2010-07-12 07:29:00 PM
Get a canteen.

Considering this is San Fran, a well placed hyphen might be employed here...
 
2010-07-12 07:30:47 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: They'll even provide or sell reuseable containers that you can fill from a cistern or water fountain.

The bottles that the water comes in are reusable. A fact that has caused troubles at many raves, as people would refill their bottles in the bathroom sinks, thus pissing off the vendors.
Or do plastic bottles disintegrate upon emptying in San Francisco? This is an interesting phenomenon. They should hire some scientists to study it. Or maybe, this is another made up issue. So hard to say. I guess we're just not smart enough to figure it out.
 
2010-07-12 07:31:38 PM
snuffy: Seacop: snuffy: Seacop: snuffy: ultraholland: snuffy: do you mean they are going to make them drink that stuff coming out of the tap?

I, for one, am a huge fan of municipal tap and thoroughly enjoy sampling public waters from around the world

me too, i have never bought at bottle of drinking water.

You don't own a TV either right?

yep, we have one, plus a water line all the way into our house.

Yeah but do you live on Cape Cod? If you do, then you don't use that water line. It's just for show.

not a chance in hell that i would ever live on cape cod, although my family helped pay for judge reggies place on martha's vineyard.

our water comes from a 3200 well with no treatment other than state mandated chlorine, which we filter with charcoal.


Then you can understand why I buy water.
 
2010-07-12 07:31:45 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: Any chance San Francisco catches on fire anytime soon? Because, you know, if it did, they'd need some water then. Stupid hippy biatches.

It takes a special kind of angry retard to think you put fires out with bottles of water.
 
2010-07-12 07:33:41 PM
Get a canteen

Cuz we're going camping? Who carries a canteen that isn't a boy scout, soldier or one of the 3 Amigos?

/love Canteen Boy
 
2010-07-12 07:33:51 PM
whidbey: Basically if you're against this, you're an asshole.

Basically, if you're for this, you're a communist nazi.
If a business wants to sell water, and a customer wants to buy water, and the said water will not kill anyone, the government needs to shut the fark up and worry about more important things.
 
2010-07-12 07:34:02 PM
The right wing fascination with all things San Francisco is in no way surprising.
 
2010-07-12 07:35:57 PM
ReverendJasen: Basically, if you're for this, you're a communist nazi.

Um, no. But you are an asshole if you oppose it.

If a business wants to sell water, and a customer wants to buy water, and the said water will not kill anyone, the government needs to shut the fark up and worry about more important things.

I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

There is absolutely no reason to sell bottled water in any major city.

None. Screw the businesses, they are basically polluters.
 
2010-07-12 07:36:03 PM
Yea I'm going to carry a canteen around like an 8 year old farking boyscout holy farking shiat what the fark are you smoking.
 
2010-07-12 07:36:40 PM
I'm not against reducing our use of bottled water but I'm certainly not advocating banning it outright. I live in DC and our tap water sucks ass. So I use a Brita filter pitcher at home, I have a big ass sports bottle that I refill at the filtered water station at work and I buy the occasional water bottle to keep in the car. I also buy bottled water at the airport because there's no other goddamn option. Yes, I do in fact drink a lot of water.

I don't understand those people who routinely buy those small bottles of water or even cases of them for normal, everyday consumption. I see people in my building that get cases of the small bottles delivered. It's a hell of a waste. Get a filter or at the very least, get those reusable 5 gallon jugs.
 
2010-07-12 07:36:54 PM
mediablitz: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Any chance San Francisco catches on fire anytime soon? Because, you know, if it did, they'd need some water then. Stupid hippy biatches.

It takes a special kind of angry retard to think you put fires out with bottles of water.


I have, while on a SoCal wildland fire A few embers came down over the fire line we had cleared and I stomped them and used one of the 8 water bottles I had stuffed into my various pockets.

/just sayin'
 
2010-07-12 07:39:10 PM
This has yet to devolve into a maelstrom of recrimination, so let me give it a shove.

The raw materials of that which defines most bottled water are pouring into the Gulf of Mexico at the rate of 30k bbl/day. Somebody says "hey let's stop selling the stuff and offer an alternative" and suddenly a screechfest. I, for one, applaud this decision.
 
2010-07-12 07:39:43 PM
whidbey: ReverendJasen: Basically, if you're for this, you're a communist nazi.

Um, no. But you are an asshole if you oppose it.

If a business wants to sell water, and a customer wants to buy water, and the said water will not kill anyone, the government needs to shut the fark up and worry about more important things.

I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

There is absolutely no reason to sell bottled water in any major city.

None. Screw the businesses, they are basically polluters.


Yeah! Any company that causes any pollutrion should be shut down.

including

Electric companies
Farms
companies that use/ throw away plastic
any company that employs people who own a car
etc...
 
2010-07-12 07:40:37 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: No one is saying that outlets can't sell bottled water in their establishments. They are saying that you can't sell bottled water at events held on city property. You can still get water, just not in easy to use bottles. They'll even provide or sell reuseable containers that you can fill from a cistern or water fountain.

Ok, I could maybe get on board with filling my container at a fountain, but there is no damn way I'm touching a public cistern.
 
2010-07-12 07:40:47 PM
Belua: Naman: Oh no, what have they done??? Surely they realize that no one could survive and stay hydrated before the invention of plastic bottles in the 20th century! Surely they know there don't exist reusable bottles that people who aren't lazy shiats could use to bring their own water. They could even have developed a habit of keeping several of these reusable containers of water in their cars all the time just in case, and turned this into a non-issue! Hell, it's not as if they could have some sort of "filtration system" and taps at event locations so people could refill these refillable containers. (If such a thing existed, mind you.)

Too bad there's no viable alternatives to selling water in disposable bottles that waste huge amounts of energy in production, transportation, and recycling. Are they trying to make everyone die of thirst???

Where do you live that you can keep water in your car and not have it turn to steam? I tried keeping a gallon water jug in the car and it blew the top off when it sat in the shade inside my car.


i211.photobucket.com
 
2010-07-12 07:41:36 PM
ReverendJasen: The_Six_Fingered_Man: They'll even provide or sell reuseable containers that you can fill from a cistern or water fountain.

The bottles that the water comes in are reusable. A fact that has caused troubles at many raves, as people would refill their bottles in the bathroom sinks, thus pissing off the vendors.
Or do plastic bottles disintegrate upon emptying in San Francisco? This is an interesting phenomenon. They should hire some scientists to study it. Or maybe, this is another made up issue. So hard to say. I guess we're just not smart enough to figure it out.


I'm guessing that the reuseable containers are not plastic. the instinct when finishing a bottle of water is to dispose of the bottle. If you do that with the new paper containers, no harm.
 
2010-07-12 07:42:49 PM
ReverendJasen: whidbey: Basically if you're against this, you're an asshole.

Basically, if you're for this, you're a communist nazi.
If a business wants to sell water, and a customer wants to buy water, and the said water will not kill anyone, the government needs to shut the fark up and worry about more important things.


Sure and let the blind and clumsy beast called the "free market" decide it's relevance.
 
2010-07-12 07:43:32 PM
mediablitz: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Any chance San Francisco catches on fire anytime soon? Because, you know, if it did, they'd need some water then. Stupid hippy biatches.

It takes a special kind of angry retard to think you put fires out with bottles of water.


Depends.

This could have been avoided with a single bottle of Evian (and a time machine)

img39.imageshack.us
 
2010-07-12 07:43:51 PM
snuffy: Belua: snuffy: ultraholland: snuffy:
hell i live 199 miles from anywhere. but, i never leave the house without a large travel mug full of iced wyler's lemonade and if i'm going to be gone for a while, i'll bring a small ice chest with a sealed container to refill my mug.

so you are wrong and i stay refreshed. i'm just not paying out the ass to do it.


really? You are such an insecure snob you have to name the brand of lemonade you drink?

/you sound fat
//and old
///probably don't leave the house much anymore?
 
2010-07-12 07:44:04 PM
Seacop: whidbey: ReverendJasen: Basically, if you're for this, you're a communist nazi.

Um, no. But you are an asshole if you oppose it.

If a business wants to sell water, and a customer wants to buy water, and the said water will not kill anyone, the government needs to shut the fark up and worry about more important things.

I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

There is absolutely no reason to sell bottled water in any major city.

None. Screw the businesses, they are basically polluters.

Yeah! Any company that causes any pollutrion should be shut down.

including

Electric companies
Farms
companies that use/ throw away plastic
any company that employs people who own a car
etc...


Except most of those don't have viable alternatives that require a minimum of effort. All you need to do to make up for lack of bottled water is get a reusable container, and if you're one of those babbies who can't handle muni tapwater, get a filter.
 
2010-07-12 07:44:36 PM
whidbey: Um, no. But you are an asshole if you oppose it.

[Citation needed]
No, you're an asshole.

whidbey: I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

Recycling. Or has the poster-child of the 90's been abandoned and forgotten? Recycling is not enforced. Recycling of products is not endemic. fark your banning of products. Enforce recycling of plastics and glass you commie bastards. Force the local garbage collection to make it happen on their end. What's that? Too much work for them? Too bad, they're just a polluting corporation, fark 'em.

We do not need more bullshiat laws taking away basic human rights.
And if you do not consider buying water a basic right, you're nuts.
 
2010-07-12 07:47:08 PM
Naman: Seacop: whidbey: ReverendJasen: Basically, if you're for this, you're a communist nazi.

Um, no. But you are an asshole if you oppose it.

If a business wants to sell water, and a customer wants to buy water, and the said water will not kill anyone, the government needs to shut the fark up and worry about more important things.

I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

There is absolutely no reason to sell bottled water in any major city.

None. Screw the businesses, they are basically polluters.

Yeah! Any company that causes any pollutrion should be shut down.

including

Electric companies
Farms
companies that use/ throw away plastic
any company that employs people who own a car
etc...

Except most of those don't have viable alternatives that require a minimum of effort. All you need to do to make up for lack of bottled water is get a reusable container, and if you're one of those babbies who can't handle muni tapwater, get a filter.


Shut up when I'm trying to stir the pot.
 
2010-07-12 07:47:32 PM
ReverendJasen: And if you do not consider buying water a basic right, you're nuts.

If you think anyone has banned buying water, you're nuts.
 
2010-07-12 07:47:38 PM
You don't even have to read the article to see that the city's only looking to ban bottled water at events held on city property. It's right there in the headline. San Francisco is not trying to ban all sales of bottled water. Seriously, are people now not only so impatient that they can't finish TFA, they can't even finish headlines now?
 
2010-07-12 07:48:16 PM
Naman: Except most of those don't have viable alternatives that require a minimum of effort. All you need to do to make up for lack of bottled water is get a reusable container, and if you're one of those babbies who can't handle muni tapwater, get a filter.

Also, when they issue boil orders for Ecoli on a regular basis, filters don't cut it. Get my water delivered.
 
2010-07-12 07:48:34 PM
Seacop: Yeah! Any company that causes any pollutrion should be shut down.

including

Electric companies
Farms
companies that use/ throw away plastic
any company that employs people who own a car
etc...


Heh. "pollutrion."

Good one.

ReverendJasen: We do not need more bullshiat laws taking away basic human rights.
And if you do not consider buying water a basic right, you're nuts.


Sorry dude, bottled water is not a "right."

Keep 'em flying.

whidbey: I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

Recycling. Or has the poster-child of the 90's been abandoned and forgotten?


Bit of trivia: It's actually a lot easier to stop making plastic bottles than it is to recycle them.
 
2010-07-12 07:49:03 PM
ReverendJasen: whidbey: Um, no. But you are an asshole if you oppose it.

[Citation needed]
No, you're an asshole.

whidbey: I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

Recycling. Or has the poster-child of the 90's been abandoned and forgotten? Recycling is not enforced. Recycling of products is not endemic. fark your banning of products. Enforce recycling of plastics and glass you commie bastards. Force the local garbage collection to make it happen on their end. What's that? Too much work for them? Too bad, they're just a polluting corporation, fark 'em.

We do not need more bullshiat laws taking away basic human rights.
And if you do not consider buying water a basic right, you're nuts.


life, liberty and polyethelene.
 
2010-07-12 07:49:12 PM
Whatever. Bring your own Aquafina bottle & tell them to shove it up their... Oh, we are talking about San Francisco here. Scratch that last part.
 
2010-07-12 07:49:36 PM
grimnir: You don't even have to read the article to see that the city's only looking to ban bottled water at events held on city property. It's right there in the headline. San Francisco is not trying to ban all sales of bottled water. Seriously, are people now not only so impatient that they can't finish TFA, they can't even finish headlines now?

Yeah but with San Fran you know it's just a matter of time.
 
2010-07-12 07:50:42 PM
pete1729: life, liberty and polyethelene.

We should be COVERED in it. For VICTORY.
 
2010-07-12 07:51:12 PM
Oh, the horror! Spend a milisecond of forethought and the problem is solved.

leslistreets.typepad.com

/how did humanity survive before bottled water!
 
2010-07-12 07:51:20 PM
ReverendJasen: whidbey: Um, no. But you are an asshole if you oppose it.

[Citation needed]
No, you're an asshole.

whidbey: I'd say it's a perfectly worthy concern: landfills full of dirty plastic bottles that don't degrade for thousands of years.

Recycling. Or has the poster-child of the 90's been abandoned and forgotten? Recycling is not enforced. Recycling of products is not endemic. fark your banning of products. Enforce recycling of plastics and glass you commie bastards. Force the local garbage collection to make it happen on their end. What's that? Too much work for them? Too bad, they're just a polluting corporation, fark 'em.

We do not need more bullshiat laws taking away basic human rights.
And if you do not consider buying water a basic right, you're nuts.


Recycling was the poster-child of corporations who didn't want consumers to reduce buying disposable products. Recycling was never a viable solution to the waste problem, as it requires a great deal of energy and manpower, and a lot of shiat you _think_ is recyclable isn't. (You know those numbers on disposable plastic containers with the recycling symbol on them? You should pay attention to those numbers.) The only materials really worth recycling are metal and glass, and glass is more efficient to produce from scratch.

The problem, by the way, is not that plastic bottles end up sitting in some landfill. The problem is that they end up in the bushes, and the lakes, and the streams, and the oceans, and in many other places that garbage really isn't supposed to go.
 
2010-07-12 07:51:22 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: I'm guessing that the reuseable containers are not plastic.

Really? What do you expect them to sell? Metal flagrons? Glasses that can be broken and cut people?
Most containers we use for everything now are plastic--it's cheap, light, and harder to break.
No, I can guarantee you, the idiots who thought this law up are talking about reusable plastic containers. I'd bet my next paycheck on it.
 
2010-07-12 07:52:24 PM
Seacop: Naman: Except most of those don't have viable alternatives that require a minimum of effort. All you need to do to make up for lack of bottled water is get a reusable container, and if you're one of those babbies who can't handle muni tapwater, get a filter.

Also, when they issue boil orders for Ecoli on a regular basis, filters don't cut it. Get my water delivered.


boil orders? yeesh how often?

Refillable jugs of distilled water... yeah OK, especially for coffee.
 
2010-07-12 07:53:41 PM
Seacop: snuffy: Seacop: snuffy: Seacop: snuffy: ultraholland: snuffy: do you mean they are going to make them drink that stuff coming out of the tap?

I, for one, am a huge fan of municipal tap and thoroughly enjoy sampling public waters from around the world

me too, i have never bought at bottle of drinking water.

You don't own a TV either right?

yep, we have one, plus a water line all the way into our house.

Yeah but do you live on Cape Cod? If you do, then you don't use that water line. It's just for show.

not a chance in hell that i would ever live on cape cod, although my family helped pay for judge reggies place on martha's vineyard.

our water comes from a 3200 well with no treatment other than state mandated chlorine, which we filter with charcoal.

Then you can understand why I buy water.


Yes I do as I grew up on the coast. Nobody sold water in containers then.

Plentiful clean water has a lot to do with where I live now. Sad part is since shale gas has been discovered in the area our good well water is at risk.
 
2010-07-12 07:53:45 PM
whidbey: pete1729: life, liberty and polyethelene.

We should be COVERED in it. For VICTORY.


PETE1!
 
2010-07-12 07:54:12 PM
whidbey: Bit of trivia: It's actually a lot easier to stop making plastic bottles than it is to recycle them.

And you would replace them with...

/I'm dying to hear this.
 
2010-07-12 07:55:09 PM
Seacop: Naman: Except most of those don't have viable alternatives that require a minimum of effort. All you need to do to make up for lack of bottled water is get a reusable container, and if you're one of those babbies who can't handle muni tapwater, get a filter.

Also, when they issue boil orders for Ecoli on a regular basis, filters don't cut it. Get my water delivered.


Major American metropolises != the developing world. (Also, you do know it's common practice in the developing world to sell re-filled water bottles with the plastic ring melted/glued back to the cap, right?)
 
2010-07-12 07:57:16 PM
Belua: snuffy: Belua: snuffy: ultraholland: snuffy:
hell i live 199 miles from anywhere. but, i never leave the house without a large travel mug full of iced wyler's lemonade and if i'm going to be gone for a while, i'll bring a small ice chest with a sealed container to refill my mug.

so you are wrong and i stay refreshed. i'm just not paying out the ass to do it.

really? You are such an insecure snob you have to name the brand of lemonade you drink?

/you sound fat
//and old
///probably don't leave the house much anymore?


that's funny as you sound young, fat, and smell sweaty.

i don't drink the koolaid.
 
2010-07-12 07:57:50 PM
Seacop: Yeah but with San Fran you know it's just a matter of time.

No, I don't know that at all, and neither do you. You imagine it. Should San Francisco ban all bottled water sales, I would react to it as being unnecessarily restrictive. Until it does, I am not going to react to something that I imagine might happen based on extrapolation from my biased perceptions, or anyone else's biased perceptions.
 
2010-07-12 07:59:13 PM
grimnir: You don't even have to read

You think people don't have to read?

I like to read.
 
2010-07-12 08:01:10 PM
ReverendJasen: whidbey: Bit of trivia: It's actually a lot easier to stop making plastic bottles than it is to recycle them.

And you would replace them with...

/I'm dying to hear this.


a paper cup and a faucet.
 
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