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(Wall Street Journal)   Having solved all other problems, gov't scientists discover cure for HIV. Still no cure for cancer   (online.wsj.com) divider line 246
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2010-07-08 04:36:22 PM
Why are we even trying to cure HIV though? It's done more good in the world than evil. Cancer has no targets. Cancer is what we should be trying to stop. HIV on the other hand goes after drug users and homosexuals. We're playing God here by stopping the spread of HIV, and that's not right.
 
2010-07-08 04:40:00 PM
U.S. government scientists have discovered three powerful antibodies,

I call shenanigans. My GOP friends tell me that only free enterprise capitalist drug companies, unfettered by government oversight, can find cures for all our diseases.
 
2010-07-08 04:48:41 PM
This treatment is nothing more than SOCIALISM pumped right into the pure body, and it must be purged.
 
2010-07-08 04:50:57 PM
ignite ice: Why are we even trying to cure HIV though? It's done more good in the world than evil. Cancer has no targets. Cancer is what we should be trying to stop. HIV on the other hand goes after drug users and homosexuals. We're playing God here by stopping the spread of HIV, and that's not right.

8/10
 
2010-07-08 04:52:17 PM
It's actually pretty fascinating. They've been studying people's antibodies to find those who's bodies have managed to create some that are highly effective against most strains of HIV, a broad spectrum HIV antibody. Obviously most people never develop effective antibodies and without the HIV drug cocktail, they die. There are exceptions though. Evolution in action...
 
2010-07-08 04:52:56 PM
TaVaMaN: ignite ice: Why are we even trying to cure HIV though? It's done more good in the world than evil. Cancer has no targets. Cancer is what we should be trying to stop. HIV on the other hand goes after drug users and homosexuals. We're playing God here by stopping the spread of HIV, and that's not right.

8/10


It's a 5.5/10. It would have been a 9/10 if he had used a code word instead of "homosexuals." Something like "people who behave abnormally" or something to that effect.
 
2010-07-08 04:53:43 PM
GAT_00: This treatment is nothing more than SOCIALISM pumped right into the pure body, and it must be purged.

Not only that but it's from a gay man. Gonna catch the gay instead of the HIV.
 
2010-07-08 04:56:54 PM
Great news.

/Going to go bareback with a hooker tonight.
 
2010-07-08 04:57:35 PM
JerseyTim: TaVaMaN: ignite ice: Why are we even trying to cure HIV though? It's done more good in the world than evil. Cancer has no targets. Cancer is what we should be trying to stop. HIV on the other hand goes after drug users and homosexuals. We're playing God here by stopping the spread of HIV, and that's not right.

8/10

It's a 5.5/10. It would have been a 9/10 if he had used a code word instead of "homosexuals." Something like "people who behave abnormally" or something to that effect.


I say 5/10, he should have alluded to those who were infected from things like blood transfusions as collateral damage in a war against evil for more points.
 
2010-07-08 04:59:11 PM
Didn't they announce the smallpox vaccine could possibly prevent HIV like two weeks ago?

//you know, an ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure..
 
2010-07-08 05:01:57 PM
Those scientists are already dead.
 
j68
2010-07-08 05:01:59 PM
Cool, I can go back to banging hookers.
 
2010-07-08 05:02:45 PM
Vaccines are not cures.
 
2010-07-08 05:02:50 PM
Damn that disease.
 
2010-07-08 05:03:25 PM
JerseyTim: It's a 5.5/10. It would have been a 9/10 if he had used a code word instead of "homosexuals." Something like "people who behave abnormally" or something to that effect.

'Abominations' would have earned him a 10 with me.
 
2010-07-08 05:03:56 PM
PREPARE FOR SODOMY

I mean girls.

Yeah.
 
2010-07-08 05:04:03 PM
I, for one, say "WOOT!" In your face, diseases. Somebody better hand this "Science" a waiter's uniform because HIV just got served.

/etc.
 
2010-07-08 05:04:17 PM
Damn, I was beat to the troll. Lately I've been going with the "Put them all on an island".
 
2010-07-08 05:04:32 PM
Dinki [TotalFark] Quote 2010-07-08 04:40:00 PM
U.S. government scientists have discovered three powerful antibodies,

I call shenanigans. My GOP friends tell me that only free enterprise capitalist drug companies, unfettered by government oversight, can find cures for all our diseases.


Of course you have no GOP friends and if you did they would never say such a thing.

No one but a few nuts in the Libertarian party or the Cato institute are against government funding science research, and conservatives in general are not against government, we just believe that if government tries to do everything then it will run out of money to do the things it was created for.

But you already know that, you were just being an hyperbolic prick.
 
2010-07-08 05:05:40 PM
i25.tinypic.com

; )
 
2010-07-08 05:06:28 PM
Dinki: U.S. government scientists have discovered three powerful antibodies,

I call shenanigans. My GOP friends tell me that only free enterprise capitalist drug companies, unfettered by government oversight, can find cures for all our diseases.


Except if it is NASA and the military, who are responsible for nearly all technological advances.

/government research never works, except when it always does.
 
2010-07-08 05:06:36 PM
Dinki: U.S. government scientists have discovered three powerful antibodies,

I call shenanigans. My GOP friends tell me that only free enterprise capitalist drug companies, unfettered by government oversight, can find cures for all our diseases.


I know your joking, but having pharmaceutical companies profit off the research of the NIH without paying anything back is a travesty. Private companies and corporations that explicitly benefit from government research should be subjected to some form of taxation.
 
2010-07-08 05:06:51 PM
they should carpet bomb D.C. with this.
 
2010-07-08 05:06:58 PM
ignite ice: Why are we even trying to cure HIV though? It's done more good in the world than evil. Cancer has no targets. Cancer is what we should be trying to stop. HIV on the other hand goes after drug users and homosexuals. We're playing God here by stopping the spread of HIV, and that's not right.

JerseyTim: It's a 5.5/10. It would have been a 9/10 if he had used a code word instead of "homosexuals."

Well, that's harsh. I thought it was pretty good. It could've been more vicious to get genuine bites, but that would've taken away the hyperbolic value which I found more fun. The only reason I wouldn't give it a perfect score is because it didn't include race-baiting, and the proper phrase is "defying God's will", not "playing God".

7/10.
 
2010-07-08 05:07:10 PM
FTFA: "The antibodies were discovered in the cells of a 60-year-old African-American gay man, known in the scientific literature as Donor 45, whose body made the antibodies naturally."


It's like that one X-men where they infect Wolverine. AWESOME!
 
2010-07-08 05:07:11 PM
so what. all the blacks will still riot in oakland...



when they find a cure for ghettos people who act like assholes, we'll be in business
 
2010-07-08 05:07:49 PM
Impudent Domain: Dinki [TotalFark] Quote 2010-07-08 04:40:00 PM
U.S. government scientists have discovered three powerful antibodies,

I call shenanigans. My GOP friends tell me that only free enterprise capitalist drug companies, unfettered by government oversight, can find cures for all our diseases.

Of course you have no GOP friends and if you did they would never say such a thing.

No one but a few nuts in the Libertarian party or the Cato institute are against government funding science research, and conservatives in general are not against government, we just believe that if government tries to do everything then it will run out of money to do the things it was created for.

But you already know that, you were just being an hyperbolic prick.


Where were you in the health care debate? According to the GOP shrills, anything government funded = bad. only private, for profit companies can cure disease or properly treat patients.
 
2010-07-08 05:08:02 PM
How about we be happy that humanity may have finally found a way to combat this horrible disease rather than attempting to score cheap political points.
 
2010-07-08 05:08:03 PM
Impudent Domain: Dinki [TotalFark] Quote 2010-07-08 04:40:00 PM
U.S. government scientists have discovered three powerful antibodies,

I call shenanigans. My GOP friends tell me that only free enterprise capitalist drug companies, unfettered by government oversight, can find cures for all our diseases.

Of course you have no GOP friends and if you did they would never say such a thing.

No one but a few nuts in the Libertarian party or the Cato institute are against government funding science research, and conservatives in general are not against government, we just believe that if government tries to do everything then it will run out of money to do the things it was created for.

But you already know that, you were just being an hyperbolic prick.


I have a book coming out called "Sarcasm For The Masses". I've earmarked ID as 'needy', so he/she will be getting a free copy.
 
2010-07-08 05:08:22 PM
Done in one.
 
2010-07-08 05:08:56 PM
Not that this isn't fantastic work, but development of a therapeutic antibody is years away from useful clinical data for efficacy. Many neutralizing antibodies for many diseases have failed in the animal or human models, although more are becoming promising.

Rational Design of Envelope Identifies Broadly Neutralizing Human Monoclonal Antibodies to HIV-1 (new window)
Structural Basis for Broad and Potent Neutralization of HIV-1 by Antibody VRC01 (new window)

Peter Kwong's work is the shizznit.

/I'm collaborating with a company who is working on therapeutic antibody development with a novel approach; if you want to give them money, EIP.
 
2010-07-08 05:09:19 PM
Look out Tijuana, here I come!!!!
 
2010-07-08 05:09:46 PM
The new discovery is the latest in what Wayne Koff, head of research and development at the nonprofit International AIDS Vaccine Initiative, calls a "renaissance" in HIV vaccine research.

WTF?!?!?
 
2010-07-08 05:09:51 PM
Deacon Blue: Look out Tijuana, here I come cum!!!!

FTFY
 
2010-07-08 05:09:54 PM
Treygreen13: Vaccines are not cures.

Well, at least someone in this thread knows what they are talking about.
 
2010-07-08 05:10:01 PM
To quote Jeff Goldblum "Life, uh... finds a way." Personally I think over time HIV will simply co-exist within human beings to the point where it will not harm us.

Either that or we cure HIV/AIDS, and after that we get NRS, then UBT, and finally we'll outlaw and behaviorally engineer all fluid transfer out of societally acceptable behavior.
 
2010-07-08 05:11:15 PM
...until it mutates again.
 
2010-07-08 05:11:49 PM
lake_huron
Not that this isn't fantastic work, but development of a therapeutic antibody is years away from useful clinical data for efficacy. Many neutralizing antibodies for many diseases have failed in the animal or human models, although more are becoming promising.


The antibodies were discovered in the cells of a 60-year-old African-American gay man, known in the scientific literature as Donor 45, whose body made the antibodies naturally.

/whoa...I actually read an article
 
2010-07-08 05:11:53 PM
Dinki: U.S. government scientists have discovered three powerful antibodies,

I call shenanigans. My GOP friends tell me that only free enterprise capitalist drug companies, unfettered by government oversight, can find cures for all our diseases.


Don't worry, some drug company will somehow end up with the exclusive rights to produce and market the vaccine.
 
2010-07-08 05:12:06 PM
Psumek: GAT_00: This treatment is nothing more than SOCIALISM pumped right into the pure body, and it must be purged.

Not only that but it's from a gay man. Gonna catch the gay instead of the HIV.


An old black gay man is the cure. If we want a vaccine for HIV we better stay off his lawn.
 
2010-07-08 05:12:49 PM
I thought Magic Johnson already figured out the cure.

Cake, and lots of it.

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2010-07-08 05:13:24 PM
www.goldstars.com

/came for this
//no one came to my aid
 
2010-07-08 05:13:33 PM
LegacyDL: To quote Jeff Goldblum "Life, uh... finds a way." Personally I think over time HIV will simply co-exist within human beings to the point where it will not harm us.

Either that or we cure HIV/AIDS, and after that we get NRS, then UBT, and finally we'll outlaw and behaviorally engineer all fluid transfer out of societally acceptable behavior.


What's next? 3 shells?
 
2010-07-08 05:13:36 PM
Antimatter: Where were you in the health care debate? According to the GOP shrills, anything government funded = bad. only private, for profit companies can cure disease or properly treat patients.

This. Repeating GOP's hyperbolic talking points verbatim is not hyperbole.
 
2010-07-08 05:13:39 PM
Deacon Blue: Look out Tijuana, here I come!!!!

Screw that, I've got my sights set on haiti..

//hey, they don't get away with their AIDS rate just because of one ..uhh..little earthquake.
 
2010-07-08 05:13:54 PM
I just keep injecting myself with money


I'm not just sure it works, I'm HIV positive
 
2010-07-08 05:14:01 PM
"Researchers screened 25 million of his cells to find 12 that produced the antibodies."

Dang. That sounds like a fun job.
 
2010-07-08 05:14:05 PM
Actually, similar approaches are being tried to cure cancer and are starting to show promise.

// Still no cure for the common cold?
 
2010-07-08 05:14:21 PM
I call shenanigans on the donors age, Magic is only 50
 
2010-07-08 05:14:38 PM
Trynoassatol?
 
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