FTFA - Students can choose

I made it big so that even idiots like Gary can understand that it's a voluntary program.

Dinki: FTFA - Students can choose

I made it big so that even idiots like Gary can understand that it's a voluntary program.

You're no fun.

GaryPDX: Hey, it's only a matter of time.

Anything is possible in the distant future. Let's wait until it actually happens before getting too upset about it, ok?

Oh and we all know conservative colleges wouldn't collect DNA- that's one of those secular scientisty things they shun.

Dinki: FTFA - Students can choose

I made it big so that even idiots like Gary can understand that it's a voluntary program.

But I'm still scared, what if I volunteer without knowing it?

/Keeping the paranoia spinning.

GaryPDX: Dinki: FTFA - Students can choose

I made it big so that even idiots like Gary can understand that it's a voluntary program.

Hey, it's only a matter of time. I don't know who's more of a lunatic, a person who wants their genetics databased or those who want to create such a database.



S-s-s-science is S-s-s-scaaaaaawy.

The people who run Berkley are extremely conservative.

GaryPDX: I don't know who's more of a lunatic

Lunatics rarely do.

FTFA: Berkeley sent approximately 5,500 incoming freshmen and transfer students DNA sampling kits. The hope is to spark discussion during orientation on how genetic testing works, the results of the students' tests and their decisions on whether or not to participate. Although the program is entirely voluntary and confidential it has alarmed some bioethics watchers, who cite concerns about privacy, student health and the ambiguous nature of the project.

As long as its truly voluntary and non-coercive, I don't have a problem with it. What's up with the "right-wing" thing, Subby? Why would this be a matter of political ideology? All institutions seek power, just as all people seek power. This is hardly news.

GaryPDX: cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: If that puppy is turned on

I think I found a flaw in your theory.

Care to elaborate, Comrade Cameron?

Nope, as a 51 year old you should probably figure out inferences by now.

Riight, your obscure inferences over a snarky website? Yea, oookay.

All kidding aside, why does it need to be turned on? Don't those things have internal batteries that save phone numbers and other contact info? I've taken the battery out of my phone just to sort of reset and reboot a phone that was acting funny, and sure enough nothing was erased.

GaryPDX: When it's turned on it constantly broadcasts it's location within the cell network. That makes it a tracking device.

Please forgive me if it seems that I'm harping on something that is more obvious to you and others, but why can't the phone broadcast its location all the time, even when not turned on?

GAT_00: Oh good, another Gary threadjack thread. Just what we need. I do have to admit, it is kind of fun to think of what Gary's world must be like, seeing threats and liberals everywhere. It's like Hitler with the Jews, only nobody is afraid of Gary.

Gary has always been nice to me and has answered my questions honestly. He's OK in my book.

Whadya mean I'm not a Native American?

SUbtard:Two oppressive right wing universities start collecting DNA from incoming students to personalize medicine. Oh wait, Berkley and Stanford? Collect stamp of 'double plus good' from Sebelius

Right wingers have created a new language in their fantasy world of being attacked and repressed.

No pressure. Just sit down and submit your DNA for testing here or go stand over there with the 2nd class students who denied us their DNA.

Goddamnit. I have no intention of agreeing with anything Gary says, but the simple act of asking or sending out the request makes the concept of sumbitting to genetic testing more acceptable.

5 years ago, you could go to a store and buy something. No personal information would be exchanged. Now, you go into Best Buy or BB&B and they ask you for your phone numbe. The reason they give you is so they can send you coupons. The real reason is so they can track you and your purchases to better understand their customer and target you with coupns and promotions you are more likely to respond to. I know. I designed just such a database.

5 years ago, the request for a phone number while buying sheets would have surprised you. It might have pissed you off. But if you repeat the question enough, it becomes commonplace and more acceptable.

I don't think that is the intent here. Berkely of all places would have some concerns about the gathering of such personal info. That said, they are targeting young people of a generation that is overly comfortable with over-sharing and a limited concet of future consequences. Even if 99% opt out, the question has been posed and the seed planted that such questions are "normal"

/I'm drunk

Since Obama has become the president, right wingers seem to have a form of Tourette syndrome of biatching about everything if it makes sense or not.

Bah fark Stanford. Worked there for 11 months of horror dealing with the worst farking post-doc and supervisor ever.