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2010-07-03 09:38:00 AM
I would like to throw my vote in for the guillotine.
 
2010-07-03 09:39:05 AM
Nothing beats a good old public hanging. If you do it just right, the head pops off. Now that's show business.
 
2010-07-03 09:54:29 AM
People's perception of execution is so farked up, how could you possibly believe a convulsing, several second long burning death in the electric chair is better than instant death from (proper) hanging, the guillotine or firing squad, all of which are too fast for the subject to experience pain.
I suppose people don't like the guillotine/ect because it's gruesome, but I'd rather watch someone's head pop off than see their farking skin boil.

/I don't particularly have a problem with lethal injection, though it seems like a faster death should be possible.
 
2010-07-03 09:55:05 AM
Water wet, sky blue.
 
2010-07-03 09:58:29 AM
on death row in Utah for the murder of a defense attorney

Is that even illegal?

And of course the firing squad is more humane than strapping the person to a chair and shooting him up with various drugs that may or may not kill him right away.
 
2010-07-03 10:01:29 AM
I don't even know how they came up with the electric chair. That is some medieval shiat. Well, if they had electricity in medieval times but you know what I mean.

/doesn't even believe in the death penalty due to all the death row inmates found innocent either before or after their execution
 
2010-07-03 10:02:25 AM
FTFA: According to the Utah Department of Corrections, Gardner will be strapped to a chair for his execution wearing a jumpsuit with a target pinned to his heart.

Um, the guy was already executed.
 
2010-07-03 10:04:39 AM
Mugato: I don't even know how they came up with the electric chair. That is some medieval shiat. Well, if they had electricity in medieval times but you know what I mean.

/doesn't even believe in the death penalty due to all the death row inmates found innocent either before or after their execution


Ask, and you shall receive. (pops)
 
2010-07-03 10:11:36 AM
Hiro Nakamura: Ask, and you shall receive. (pops)

That's some creepy shiat.

corrections officials attempted to place an IV line for two hours before finally giving up


Can you really call an executioner a "corrections official"?
 
2010-07-03 11:27:31 AM
Death by Snoo-snoo!
 
2010-07-03 01:21:19 PM
one more for snu snu
 
2010-07-03 01:21:48 PM
5 in the heart, 5 in the head. no blanks.

2 mops.
 
2010-07-03 01:22:32 PM
Posted Wednesday, June 16, 2010, at 7:00 AM ET

my--this article is timely----i also believe a repost
 
2010-07-03 01:23:05 PM
Mugato: /doesn't even believe in the death penalty due to all the death row inmates found innocent either before or after their execution

Yeah.. the minor benefit derived (by society, and by the victims of the condemned) is greatly outweighed by the major injustice when the invariable farkup occurs.

Sentencing someone to death is the ultimate punishment. You can't get any more severe than that (in the justice system). "Reasonable doubt" should not be a good enough standard. Let's make that "any" doubt. If you are only 99% sure that someone did X, then you may not execute them.

Woe betide you if you're wrong.
 
2010-07-03 01:25:19 PM
Mugato:
/doesn't even believe in the death penalty


What're you, gay?

www.bloops.org
 
2010-07-03 01:25:49 PM
Mugato: Can you really call an executioner a "corrections official"?

They have corrected the problem better than anybody else. So I'd say "yes".
 
2010-07-03 01:26:36 PM
What about pointed sticks?

SHUT UP!
 
2010-07-03 01:26:47 PM
Mugato: Hiro Nakamura: Ask, and you shall receive. (pops)

That's some creepy shiat.

corrections officials attempted to place an IV line for two hours before finally giving up

Can you really call an executioner a "corrections official"?


Sounds like he needed to make too many corrections, and just gave up.
 
2010-07-03 01:28:17 PM
You can thank Thomas Edison for that one.

I never did understand why lethal injection just didn't use megadoses of morphine.
 
2010-07-03 01:28:51 PM
Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: FTFA: According to the Utah Department of Corrections, Gardner will be strapped to a chair for his execution wearing a jumpsuit with a target pinned to his heart.

Um, the guy was already executed.



Yes. Gardner was ventilated on June 18.

/Oppose the death penalty
//Usually
 
2010-07-03 01:30:09 PM
Ooooooo....commemorative coins!!

Collect them all! Trade them with friends.
 
2010-07-03 01:30:11 PM
My vote for most effective implement of death would be the 30 ton press.
 
2010-07-03 01:30:49 PM
bicentennialman: You can thank Thomas Edison for that one.

I never did understand why lethal injection just didn't use megadoses of morphine.



Or a handful of phenobarbital and a bottle of scotch.

Nice and easy.
 
2010-07-03 01:30:49 PM
Quick! What does the US have in common with the "Axis of Evil"?

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Capital Punishment is legal in the reddish/brown colored nations. What civilized company we're in, America!
 
2010-07-03 01:30:52 PM
Another vote here for the guillotine. If I were to be executed, that would be the way I'd want to go. I'd also like the guillotine to be at the top of a gentle, nicely grassy hill, so my last living experience can be of me (or at least my head) rolling and bounding around like a basketball. WEEEEEE!
 
2010-07-03 01:30:57 PM
Why not just instantly vaporize them?
 
2010-07-03 01:31:37 PM
Mugato: I don't even know how they came up with the electric chair. That is some medieval shiat. Well, if they had electricity in medieval times but you know what I mean.

Thomas Edison invented it, not as a method of execution, but as a marketing tool for DC electricity (the chair uses AC, which he was trying to paint as dangerous). It failed to do what he'd actually intended, which is part of why power grids use AC today. I'm not sure if he then marketed it as an execution device, though.
 
2010-07-03 01:32:30 PM
I hear stoning is pretty humane.
 
2010-07-03 01:32:30 PM
FTFA: As in traditional military firing squads, one of those shooters' guns will be loaded with blanks, to keep each one uncertain about whether he fired a fatal shot

Does firing a blank feel different than firing a real bullet?
 
2010-07-03 01:32:44 PM
Send them to one night of rehabilitation with undefeated officer Beef Supreme:
www.the-frat-pack.com
 
2010-07-03 01:32:47 PM
shower_in_my_socks: What civilized company we're in, America!

The Japanese?!? Those sandal-wearing goldfish-tenders?
 
2010-07-03 01:33:22 PM
Squeamishness prevents us from using any method of execution that's really humane in terms of being quick and painless. People want an execution that will leave the condemned looking as if they had just gone peacefully to sleep. The trouble is that there is just no way of quickly ending a human life without causing some major trauma to the body. Even the guillotine leaves some doubt about how long consciousness lasts after the decapitation.

If I had to be executed, I'd prefer a 12 gauge behind the ear or a block of C4 applied to the back of my head over any of the modern "humane" methods. Of course cleanup would be unpleasant...
 
2010-07-03 01:34:35 PM
median eminence: FTFA: As in traditional military firing squads, one of those shooters' guns will be loaded with blanks, to keep each one uncertain about whether he fired a fatal shot

Does firing a blank feel different than firing a real bullet?



It does if you're on the receiving end.
 
2010-07-03 01:36:09 PM
Amos Quito: median eminence: FTFA: As in traditional military firing squads, one of those shooters' guns will be loaded with blanks, to keep each one uncertain about whether he fired a fatal shot

Does firing a blank feel different than firing a real bullet?


It does if you're on the receiving end.


Disagrees

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2010-07-03 01:36:22 PM
Massive heroine overdose would probably be painless. Barbituates too.
 
2010-07-03 01:38:08 PM
fullmetalcynic.files.wordpress.com

any votes for Drawn and Quartered?
 
2010-07-03 01:38:13 PM
Firing squad would be my personal choice. I'd like them to use 12 gauge shotguns with buckshot though. Less overpenetration and will do a far more complete job.
 
2010-07-03 01:43:32 PM
How it should be done! (new window)

Simple & to the point!
 
2010-07-03 01:44:11 PM
How about using a wood chipper??
 
2010-07-03 01:46:06 PM
Crosshair: Firing squad would be my personal choice. I'd like them to use 12 gauge shotguns with buckshot though. Less overpenetration and will do a far more complete job.


More complete job? What's deader than dead?
 
2010-07-03 01:46:25 PM
TsukasaK: Mugato: /doesn't even believe in the death penalty due to all the death row inmates found innocent either before or after their execution

Yeah.. the minor benefit derived (by society, and by the victims of the condemned) is greatly outweighed by the major injustice when the invariable farkup occurs.

Sentencing someone to death is the ultimate punishment. You can't get any more severe than that (in the justice system). "Reasonable doubt" should not be a good enough standard. Let's make that "any" doubt. If you are only 99% sure that someone did X, then you may not execute them.

Woe betide you if you're wrong.


I do think the standard for evidence should be unequivocal in cases where the death penalty is going to be applied but I also believe that in the face of said unequivocal evidence the penalty should be applied swiftly and often.

I firmly believe that all premeditated murders should be punished by death. I also believe that any murder that was not premeditated but committed during the course of a robbery or invasion of property should be punished by death. Most other heinous crimes should simply carry a maximum penalty of life imprisonment with no possibility of parole.

I know someone is going to point out cases where supposedly "unequivocal" evidence has been called into question after the execution, but frankly - I'm one of those people that believes 1 innocent does NOT outweigh 10 murderers.

Bad things happen to nice people all the time, as long as more bad things happen more often to bad people then I think we're coming out ahead. Anyone looking for justice in the criminal justice system is going to be sorely disappointed. Penalties we've got in abundance, justice not so much.
 
2010-07-03 01:49:58 PM
Watched a British show a while ago on this... their idea was anoxia by filling a room with nitrogen. Reversible until the moment of death, and more than totally painless it's apparently actually a pleasant way to go. They put the host in a room, brought him very close to nitrogen anoxia, and gave him a button that would end the experiment. He claimed not to even want to press it.

Of course, the much better solution would seem to be ending the barbaric and unnecessary practice of the death penalty. We're very capable of building and funding secure prisons to hold dangerous criminals, not even the best form of execution allows us to undo wrongful convictions.
 
2010-07-03 01:50:02 PM
Death by firing squad is cheapest and most humane. Lethal injections aren't given by medical professionals (goes against the Hippocratic oath) so they never know what the hell they're doing or giving a person.. electric chair can go horribly wrong, it smells,and it's rather frightening

With how cheap bullets are, I think that's the best route. Saves taxpayers monies!
 
2010-07-03 01:51:52 PM
As long as I get my pepperoni and sausage.
 
2010-07-03 01:55:23 PM
TheWhoppah: Massive heroine overdose would probably be painless. Barbituates too.

i46.tinypic.com


What a massive heroine overdose might look like.
 
2010-07-03 01:55:56 PM
Arkanaut: As long as I get my pepperoni and sausage.

Sorry it's been executed

i209.photobucket.com
 
2010-07-03 01:58:44 PM
This article seems to equate stoppage of the heart with "instantaneous death." I imagine if you were fully conscious and 3 bullets rip through your chest and explode your heart, you're gonna be pretty miserable for at least a little while, until your brain waves go dim. I would prefer dimming my brain waves first with a heavy sedative.

\about 30 minutes after a heavy laxative
\\suck it, executionarrr!
 
2010-07-03 01:58:50 PM
Barakku: People's perception of execution is so farked up, how could you possibly believe a convulsing, several second long burning death in the electric chair is better than instant death from (proper) hanging, the guillotine or firing squad, all of which are too fast for the subject to experience pain.
I suppose people don't like the guillotine/ect because it's gruesome, but I'd rather watch someone's head pop off than see their farking skin boil.

/I don't particularly have a problem with lethal injection, though it seems like a faster death should be possible.


It's the blood. Electrocution, gas chamber, and lethal injection are all clean from the witness's point of view, so it looks better than firing squad and guillotine. Guillotines are also more associated with the idea of execution being a public spectacle, which some people consider undignified.

As for your slashie, consider that the current method lethal injection is actually three separate injections - one to anesthesize the area of the injection, a second to put the prisoner to sleep, and a third to shut down the prisoner's bodily functions. If the executioner is poorly trained, what often happens is that the injections are given in the wrong order, which means that the prisoner is in excruciating pain, but is unable to speak or move as he/she dies. It can be pretty horrifying.

/Unless you're into that kind of stuff, of course.
 
2010-07-03 01:59:07 PM
Time Traveler: How about using a wood chipper??

All for what? A little bit of money? I just don't understand it. And here it is, such a beautiful day out.
 
2010-07-03 02:01:05 PM
McStubbins: This article seems to equate stoppage of the heart with "instantaneous death." I imagine if you were fully conscious and 3 bullets rip through your chest and explode your heart, you're gonna be pretty miserable for at least a little while, until your brain waves go dim. I would prefer dimming my brain waves first with a heavy sedative.

In other words, I'll take the combo plate.
 
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