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(Yahoo)   Britain, remembering a long history of premature evacuations, warns against quick withdrawal in an explosive situation; counsels to close one's eyes and think of England   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
    More: Obvious, International Security Assistance Force, United States Secretary of Defense, pullouts, McChrystal, sectarian, rocket-propelled grenades, Afghan war, secession  
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2010-06-30 07:44:26 PM  
"...but an Englishman who could last past three / I have never seen before."
 
2010-06-30 08:26:36 PM  
well, we did just pass the 70th anniversary of the dunkirk evacuation. another world-beater for britain!
 
2010-06-30 08:57:00 PM  
i265.photobucket.com
 
2010-06-30 08:57:14 PM  
They'll fight them on the biatches.
 
2010-06-30 08:59:03 PM  
If the Afghani's won't die to fight the Taliban, then the Taliban will take over as soon as we leave because the Taliban will fight to the last man to take back Kabul. Therefore, "Premature" means leaving before every last Afghani loves America enough to lay down his life fighting the Taliban. Good F'ing luck with that.
 
2010-06-30 09:01:40 PM  
The Rhythm Method is best method.
 
2010-06-30 09:06:07 PM  
@ draaga

ZOMG KILL IT WITH FIRE.
 
2010-06-30 09:08:43 PM  
www.sacred-texts.com

Unavailable for comment ... ran away.

/hot
 
2010-06-30 09:08:52 PM  

Marmanukem: @ draaga

ZOMG KILL IT WITH FIRE.


But the teeth are too well caredd for for him to be English.
i265.photobucket.com
 
2010-06-30 09:16:12 PM  

Marmanukem: @ draaga

ZOMG KILL IT WITH MORE FIRE.


FTFY, it seems.
 
2010-06-30 09:18:20 PM  
Penis.

/oblig
 
2010-06-30 09:18:40 PM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

Of course, only the English think it was a premature evacuation. The rest of us figured it was right on time.
 
2010-06-30 09:23:48 PM  
That bit at the end on the attack on the entrance to the airbase: They're saying that at least 6 insurgents blew themselves up, while 2 guardsmen were only injured? Sounds like a pretty good result to me. The Taliban may be getting bolder, but they're not getting any smarter.
 
2010-06-30 09:27:03 PM  

simpsonfan: Too bad the Soviets didn't just nuke the place.


The Soviets may have won if we had kept our farking noses out of it. I'd rather have a communist Afghanistan over what's going on now.
 
2010-06-30 09:35:32 PM  
Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day!
 
2010-06-30 09:35:37 PM  
In World War 2, the average age of the combat soldier was twenty six. In Afghanistan it is ... nineteen?
 
2010-06-30 09:37:21 PM  
Because trying to occupy Afghanistan has always worked so well for the British?
 
2010-06-30 09:43:36 PM  

skinink: In World War 2, the average age of the combat soldier was twenty six. In Afghanistan it is ... nineteen?


Now I have Herbie Hancock and Peter Thomas in my head.
 
2010-06-30 09:44:58 PM  

FlashHarry: well, we did just pass the 70th anniversary of the dunkirk evacuation. another world-beater for britain!


Actually, the retreat under fire is about the most tactically difficult task in warfare. Dunkirk was making the best out of an awful situation, so that can almost be chalked up as a victory.

/nothing wrong with your army living to fight another day.
 
2010-06-30 09:45:20 PM  

altinos: skinink: In World War 2, the average age of the combat soldier was twenty six. In Afghanistan it is ... nineteen?

Now I have Herbie HancockPaul Hardcastle and Peter Thomas in my head.


FTFM. Damn, they're all rather phallic, aren't they?
 
2010-06-30 09:47:05 PM  
Save your war-jokes for the French; the British are pretty good at war.
 
2010-06-30 09:52:13 PM  

The_Drunken_Clam: Save your war-jokes for the French; the British are pretty good at war.


The fact that you arent a colonial makes that statement all the funnier.
 
2010-06-30 09:57:55 PM  
paulvieira.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-06-30 10:00:12 PM  
The_Drunken_Clam

Save your war-jokes for the French; the British are pretty good at war.

Which is why the Yankees surrendered unconditionally rather than fight for independence.
 
2010-06-30 10:03:58 PM  
They got a bit better after we whupped thar butts.
 
2010-06-30 10:04:02 PM  

The_Drunken_Clam: Save your war-jokes for the French; the British are pretty good at war.


Sure the French may have capitulated early on in WW2 but they are hardly the sissies that everybody thinks they are. Don't forget they bore the brunt of WW1 and hadn't totally recovered as a nation in the 20 years between the wars. The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.

Besides, without the French we still might be a colony right now
 
2010-06-30 10:04:27 PM  
Oops, sorry baby... maybe next time I will think of baseball.
 
2010-06-30 10:04:44 PM  

theknuckler_33: The Soviets may have won if we had kept our farking noses out of it.


Nah. They made the same mistakes as the Brits before them and the US after them, thinking they could just send a few small units and ally with some of the tribes for the heavy lifting in return for propping them up as leaders of a puppet government.
 
2010-06-30 10:08:39 PM  

I had Snu Snu: The_Drunken_Clam: Save your war-jokes for the French; the British are pretty good at war.

Sure the French may have capitulated early on in WW2 but they are hardly the sissies that everybody thinks they are. Don't forget they bore the brunt of WW1 and hadn't totally recovered as a nation in the 20 years between the wars. The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.

Besides, without the French we still might be a colony right now


Quit your crying. The Germans took more casualties than the French did but that didn't stop them from raping their neighbors two decades later.
 
2010-06-30 10:12:05 PM  

theknuckler_33: simpsonfan: Too bad the Soviets didn't just nuke the place.

The Soviets may have won if we had kept our farking noses out of it. I'd rather have a communist Afghanistan over what's going on now.


Won what? The Cold War? The Communist system was on its kness, before Afghanistan and Reagan's arms race. Even if they had managed to pacify Afghanistan, I can't see the USSR lasting too much longer past 1991; and then the Taliban take over anyhow. So, really, we'd still be in the same position as today.
 
2010-06-30 10:12:38 PM  
Hey, I thought you English guys was trained to stay absolutely still no matter what

Hopefully not the least bit obscure.
 
2010-06-30 10:13:25 PM  

McManus_brothers: kness


And their knees, too. Fark really needs a preview page.
 
2010-06-30 10:13:27 PM  
How about laying back and thinking of Estonia?
 
2010-06-30 10:23:45 PM  

I had Snu Snu: The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.


Attacking France through the neutral Belgium? Yeah, no one could have predicted that.
 
2010-06-30 10:27:21 PM  

I had Snu Snu: The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.


Like going around the Maginot Line, for instance?


Why is The Avenue des Champs-Élysées tree-lined?
So German soldiers can march in the shade.

/hawt like boncentration bampers
 
2010-06-30 10:29:04 PM  
DRTFA, but my metro station was evacuated today because of a bomb threat.
 
2010-06-30 10:43:25 PM  

Clete Orris: I had Snu Snu: The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.

Like going around the Maginot Line, for instance?


Why is The Avenue des Champs-Élysées tree-lined?
So German soldiers can march in the shade.

/hawt like boncentration bampers


I thought they went through it?
 
2010-06-30 10:46:56 PM  

Witchydiva: Clete Orris: I had Snu Snu: The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.

Like going around the Maginot Line, for instance?


Why is The Avenue des Champs-Élysées tree-lined?
So German soldiers can march in the shade.

/hawt like boncentration bampers

I thought they went through it?


The Maginot Line dominated French military thinking in the inter-war years. The Maginot Line was a vast fortification that spread along the French/German border but became a military liability when the Germans attacked France in the spring of 1940 using blitzkrieg - a tactic that completely emasculated the Maginot Line's purpose. - Source (new window)

more: However, the Maginot Line had two major failings - it was obviously not mobile and it assumed that the Ardennes was impenetrable. Any attack that could get around it would leave it floundering like a beached whale. Blitzkrieg was the means by which Germany simply went around the whole Line. By doing this, the Maginot Line was isolated and the plan that soldiers in the Line could assist the mobilised French troops was a non-starter. The speed with which Germany attacked France and Belgium in May 1940, completely isolated all the forts. The German attack was code-named "cut-of-the-sickle" (Sichlschnitt) - an appropriate name for the attack.
 
2010-06-30 10:47:12 PM  

Korzine: I had Snu Snu: The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.

Attacking France through the neutral Belgium? Yeah, no one could have predicted that.


Taking that much heavy armor through the Ardennes was something that nobody could even fathom at the time. Looking back on it, of course it was ridiculous that they left themself so wide open but at the time it seemed like a bulletproof plan. They were preparing to fight the same type of war as WW1 and they guessed wrong.
 
2010-06-30 10:57:34 PM  
yay i love history threads!
 
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2010-06-30 11:52:28 PM  
the4cafe.com

have a cold shower. works everytime.
 
2010-06-30 11:59:52 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: FlashHarry: well, we did just pass the 70th anniversary of the dunkirk evacuation. another world-beater for britain!

Actually, the retreat under fire is about the most tactically difficult task in warfare. Dunkirk was making the best out of an awful situation, so that can almost be chalked up as a victory.

/nothing wrong with your army living to fight another day.


absolutely. dunkirk was a logistical victory, to be sure. growing up in an english household, however, i always found it fascinating how we venerated what others might consider failure. shackleton's expedition comes to mind, too.
 
2010-07-01 12:19:06 AM  
Is this a thread where fat American coonts mock the deaths of British servicemen fighting in a war in alliance with the US? After that whole 9/11 thing? Why, yes it is!

How novel.
 
2010-07-01 12:49:30 AM  

Clete Orris: I had Snu Snu: The French defeat in WW2 had more to do with the Nazi's doing something so unthinkable and so unprecedented that the French didn't really have a fighting chance anymore.

Like going around the Maginot Line, for instance?


Why is The Avenue des Champs-Élysées tree-lined?
So German soldiers can march in the shade.

/hawt like boncentration bampers


Aren't you a silly bunt?
 
2010-07-01 03:56:27 AM  

theknuckler_33: simpsonfan: Too bad the Soviets didn't just nuke the place.

The Soviets may have won if we had kept our farking noses out of it. I'd rather have a communist Afghanistan over what's going on now.


I agree.
 
2010-07-01 09:42:12 AM  

TheHoodedClaw: Is this a thread where fat American coonts mock the deaths of British servicemen fighting in a war in alliance with the US? After that whole 9/11 thing? Why, yes it is!

How novel.


Meh. Since it was the Brits who farked up the whole mid east to begin with, they can just stfu and gbtf.
 
2010-07-01 06:25:35 PM  
Well to be completely fair, when they tried to leave in 1842 the entire contingent was wiped out to the last living being. So they don't want to do that again.

/obviously
 
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