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(io9)   A computer program has deciphered a dead language that has mystified even the most cunning linguists for years. "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine." Ovaltine? A crummy commercial? Son of a biatch   (io9.com ) divider line
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2010-06-30 06:24:47 PM  
Daniel Jackson Approves of This Message.

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2010-06-30 07:35:43 PM  
Ohg pna vg ernq ebg13?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2010-06-30 07:58:54 PM  
Interesting. I didn't think that was possible.
 
2010-06-30 08:34:05 PM  
"Of the thirty letters in the Ugaritic alphabet, the computer correctly identified twenty-nine of them."

Er...
 
2010-06-30 08:34:23 PM  
files.splinder.com

Ovaltine?
 
2010-06-30 09:47:28 PM  

ZAZ: Interesting. I didn't think that was possible.


It's not only possible, it's frighteningly boring.

Math, biatches.
 
2010-06-30 09:47:38 PM  
www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk

+1 subby
 
2010-06-30 09:50:37 PM  
Oops, wrong movie.

Backs away, whistling nonchalantly.
 
2010-06-30 10:19:28 PM  
Science, it works.
 
2010-06-30 10:20:00 PM  
Now try it with the language in the Voynich Manuscript.

If that means anything other than gibberish, I'd be intrigued as all hell to find out what it says.
 
2010-06-30 10:20:58 PM  
Wow, that's pretty darn awesome. Has anyone ever tried getting a computer to look at Linear A? (my undecipherable language of choice)
 
2010-06-30 10:42:06 PM  
i265.photobucket.com

/Cunning linguists huh?
//Well alright then if you say so, rules of the road and such.
 
2010-06-30 10:43:35 PM  
FTA: It finally revealed some of its secrets to German cryptographer Hans Bauer, who was only able to make substantial headway when he guessed the drawing of an ax was next to the Ugaritic word for "ax."

um, no shiat?
 
2010-06-30 10:45:16 PM  

shivashakti: Now try it with the language in the Voynich Manuscript.

If that means anything other than gibberish, I'd be intrigued as all hell to find out what it says.


I don't think it would work since the guy(s) who wrote that were hopped up on acid at the time.
 
2010-06-30 10:45:38 PM  

shivashakti: Now try it with the language in the Voynich Manuscript.

If that means anything other than gibberish, I'd be intrigued as all hell to find out what it says.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2010-06-30 10:45:40 PM  
FTFA:

These results are particularly encouraging because the program still doesn't use any contextual clues, meaning it can't differentiate between the different uses of a Ugaritic word that means both "daughter" and "house", something that is (thankfully) pretty easy to identify in context.


Both 'daughter' and 'house' can simultaneously contain several men?
 
2010-06-30 10:50:52 PM  
Frau Blucher!
 
2010-06-30 10:50:53 PM  
Dr. Daniel Jackson approves of this message.

www.mycelebrityencounters.com
 
2010-06-30 10:51:07 PM  
The lost language of Ugaritic was last spoken 3,500 years ago. It survives on just a few tablets, and linguists could only translate it with years of hard work and plenty of luck. A computer deciphered it in hours

Farking owned.
 
2010-06-30 10:52:08 PM  

Korovyov: FTFA:

These results are particularly encouraging because the program still doesn't use any contextual clues, meaning it can't differentiate between the different uses of a Ugaritic word that means both "daughter" and "house", something that is (thankfully) pretty easy to identify in context.

Both 'daughter' and 'house' can simultaneously contain several men?



'I entered your daughter/house from the back entrance.'
'Your daughter/house's carpet does not match the drapes.'
 
2010-06-30 10:53:20 PM  
lancemannion.typepad.com
 
2010-06-30 10:53:26 PM  

GungFu: 'I entered your daughter/house from the back entrance.'
'Your daughter/house's carpet does not match the drapes.'


Does your daughter/house have flood insurance?
 
2010-06-30 10:55:13 PM  

shivashakti: Now try it with the language in the Voynich Manuscript.

If that means anything other than gibberish, I'd be intrigued as all hell to find out what it says.


Try Linear A first.
 
2010-06-30 10:55:26 PM  
The real Daniel jackson frowns on the other Daniel Jackson's shenanigans.
 
2010-06-30 11:00:07 PM  

D_Evans45: The real Daniel jackson frowns on the other Daniel Jackson's shenanigans.


Alright, which is the real one?
 
2010-06-30 11:00:42 PM  
It says..

"If I had a hammer,
I'd hammer in the mornin'
I'd hammer in the evenin'
All over this land.
I'd hammer out danger
I'd hammer out a warnin'
(yup)
All over this land.

/or it's trying to say that.
 
2010-06-30 11:01:05 PM  
Nice reference, RoyBatty. I despise you.
 
2010-06-30 11:02:17 PM  

Andromeda: Wow, that's pretty darn awesome. Has anyone ever tried getting a computer to look at Linear A? (my undecipherable language of choice)


I'm waiting for them to translate the Phaistos Disk.
But Linear A, yeah.
After that, see if it can figure out if any of the Indus Valley seals say anything or not.
 
2010-06-30 11:03:50 PM  
Dead Language?

Like, unh?

Unh.

;)
 
2010-06-30 11:04:06 PM  

CorruptHardware: D_Evans45: The real Daniel jackson frowns on the other Daniel Jackson's shenanigans.

Alright, which is the real one?



Must you even ask? Tsk, tsk.

dube.files.wordpress.com

/Drunk
 
2010-06-30 11:04:12 PM  

Mentat: "Of the thirty letters in the Ugaritic alphabet, the computer correctly identified twenty-nine of them."

Er...



tonova.typepad.com
"What?! I said the words!"

/get an ax
 
2010-06-30 11:04:47 PM  
Was it this one?iblood.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-06-30 11:05:00 PM  
the 'ax' coincidence?

/whatchoo axin me fo?
 
2010-06-30 11:07:32 PM  
Bonjour!
 
2010-06-30 11:08:14 PM  
So set it loose on linear A/B and let's see what it comes up with.
 
2010-06-30 11:08:54 PM  

simpsonfan: It would be funny if they translate some long 'document' and find out it is an ancient equivilant of a letter to Hustler.


You've clearly never read Ovid.
 
2010-06-30 11:09:15 PM  
In before pic of professor Farnsworth
 
2010-06-30 11:12:14 PM  

8.5 tailed fox: GungFu: 'I entered your daughter/house from the back entrance.'
'Your daughter/house's carpet does not match the drapes.'

Does your daughter/house have flood insurance?


I want to have sex with your daughter/house.

Wait, I don't think I did that right.
 
2010-06-30 11:12:28 PM  
OscarTamerz: So set it loose on linear A/B and let's see what it comes up with.

So far the problem with linear A is we have no idea how connected it was to linear B. Linear B is well deciphered, but even though it shares some symbols with linear A, no one is sure they mean the same thing in both. Also it doesn't help we have no idea about the structure of the old Minoan language.
 
2010-06-30 11:12:50 PM  
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"The Tibetan practice of scream singing rightfully died out in the 4th century BC, but two Berkley trust fund students have revived it and here's a forty-minute sample.... AAAAAAAAAAAH, AAAAAAAAAAAH, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
 
2010-06-30 11:14:57 PM  

Barakku: The lost language of Ugaritic was last spoken 3,500 years ago. It survives on just a few tablets, and linguists could only translate it with years of hard work and plenty of luck. A computer deciphered it in hours

Farking owned.


www.filmwad.com

If it doesn't read out the translation with Majel Barrett's voice, it's NOT a real computer.
 
2010-06-30 11:15:01 PM  
shivashakti: Now try it with the language in the Voynich Manuscript.

I was coming here to mention that.

For the curious, the wiki entry for the Voynich manuscript (pops)
 
2010-06-30 11:16:52 PM  
The article basically states that Ugaritic was already translated, they just fed the program a bunch of beginning assumptions to see how fast it would take to decipher the writing, and whether it would make the same mistakes as human linguists made. So, not so exciting, really. It's like you knew how to derive pi from basic formulas and decided to see how fast a computer could calculate the millionth digit. Sure, it took a human a few months to do it, and he made a couple of errors, but that's why we invented computers in the first place. Plus, a human linguist knew to use contextual clues like the axe picture, and a computer still knows fark-all about context.
 
2010-06-30 11:20:51 PM  
Clatto Verata N... Necktie... Neckturn... Nickel... It's an "N" word, it's definitely an "N" word! Clatto... Verata... N-
[coughs]
 
2010-06-30 11:21:01 PM  

WhyteRaven74: shivashakti: Now try it with the language in the Voynich Manuscript.

I was coming here to mention that.

For the curious, the wiki entry for the Voynich manuscript (pops)


Unless it's a fake...
 
2010-06-30 11:24:33 PM  
images.uulyrics.com

Because she was a samurai.
 
2010-06-30 11:25:31 PM  
Ugarit, when the walls fell.
 
2010-06-30 11:25:57 PM  
I was in. My first secret meeting. Pierre was in great voice tonight. I could tell that tonight's message was really important. 90 seconds later I'm in the only room in the house where a 9 year old boy could sit in privacy and decode. A-ha, "B", I went to the next, "E". The first word was "be". "S", it was coming easier now. "U". 21, that's "R".... "T", "O", "be sure to", be sure to what? What was he trying to say? Be sure to what? I was getting closer now, the tension was terrible. What was it, the fate of the planet my hang in the balance. Gee, almost there, my fingers flew, my mind was a steel trap. Every pore vibrated, it was almost clear. Yes. Yes! YES! YES! YES!

"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine... Ovaltine?"
 
2010-06-30 11:28:34 PM  

WhyteRaven74: For the curious, the wiki entry for the Voynich manuscript (pops)


It was DaVinci's work.
 
2010-06-30 11:29:16 PM  
I mean, that's my answer to anything from that relative time frame that's mysterious... but hey, it's been right before.
 
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