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(Google)   Robert Byrd will be respected in death the same way he lived his life, lying in the Senate   (google.com) divider line 63
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2010-06-29 11:44:26 PM
That's not funny.

/heh
 
2010-06-29 11:44:31 PM
Niiiice....
 
2010-06-30 12:00:52 AM
Bravo
 
2010-06-30 12:13:07 AM
BS...mine was in before either of the two others...and just as lame.
 
2010-06-30 04:28:04 AM
Are they going to dress him as a ghost and light a big "t" on fire... you know... for "t"ime to leave (this mortal coil)?
 
2010-06-30 04:28:18 AM
O HAI GUYZ DID YU HERE HE UZED TO B IN TEH KKK???
 
2010-06-30 04:34:13 AM
Who?
 
2010-06-30 04:36:44 AM
sirgrim: Who?

img715.imageshack.us
 
2010-06-30 04:42:59 AM
+1 subby
 
2010-06-30 05:26:01 AM
People turn over new leaves. Byrd was a credit to the Senate and the Democratic party. The hate directed at him is laughable considering it mostly comes from the hugely racist Republican right wing.

Even in hate, people will align themselves with a political faction before embracing a fellow brother in arms.
 
2010-06-30 07:35:38 AM
There's no class like conservative class.

Seriously, the man is dead, like him or not, show some respect.
 
2010-06-30 08:00:23 AM
For all Byrd's detractors, I don't think he had a reputation for being particularly dishonest. Looks like subby was just reaching for the pun.
 
2010-06-30 08:05:52 AM
BadAnalogyGuy: People turn over new leaves. Byrd was a credit to the Senate and the Democratic party. The hate directed at him is laughable considering it mostly comes from the hugely racist Republican right wing.

www.cc.gatech.edu
 
2010-06-30 08:08:05 AM
Spindle: Seriously, the man is dead, like him or not, show some respect.

Just as the left did when Reagan died!
 
2010-06-30 08:08:56 AM
Skyrmion: Looks like subby was just reaching for the pun.

Or just banally hateful. -1 all around.
 
2010-06-30 08:21:01 AM
His constituents seemed to like him a lot; good on him. That said, there's no reason a barely-coherent 92-year-old man should be serving in the Senate.

DarnoKonrad: Or just banally hateful. -1 all around.

images.chron.com
 
2010-06-30 08:28:33 AM
GoldSpider: there's no reason a barely-coherent 92-year-old man should be serving in the Senate.

Yes there is. That pesky Democracy thing the right keeps trying to get rid of.
 
2010-06-30 08:43:45 AM
DarnoKonrad: Yes there is. That pesky Democracy thing the right keeps trying to get rid of.

There are plenty of restrictions on who can serve in public office. They are not evidence of a plot from the right to overthrow democracy.
 
2010-06-30 08:45:30 AM
In a speech on March 13 he stated,

If the United States leads the charge to war in the Persian Gulf, we may get lucky and achieve a rapid victory. But then we will face a second war: a war to win the peace in Iraq. This war will last many years and will surely cost hundreds of billions of dollars. In light of this enormous task, it would be a great mistake to expect that this will be a replay of the 1991 war. The stakes are much higher in this conflict.

On March 19, 2003, when Bush ordered the invasion after receiving U.S. Congress approval, Byrd said,

Today I weep for my country. I have watched the events of recent months with a heavy, heavy heart. No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. The image of America has changed. Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned. Instead of reasoning with those with whom we disagree, we demand obedience or threaten recrimination.

Byrd also criticized Bush for his speech declaring the "end of major combat operations" in Iraq, which Bush made on the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln. Byrd stated on the Senate floor,

I do question the motives of a deskbound president who assumes the garb of a warrior for the purposes of a speech.

Byrd accused the Bush administration of stifling dissent:

The right to ask questions, debate, and dissent is under attack. The drums of war are beaten ever louder in an attempt to drown out those who speak of our predicament in stark terms. Even in the Senate, our history and tradition of being the world's greatest deliberative body is being snubbed. This huge spending bill-$87 billion-has been rushed through this chamber in just one month. There were just three open hearings by the Senate Appropriations Committee on $87 billion-$87 for every minute since Jesus Christ was born-$87 billion without a single outside witness called to challenge the administration's line.

Stormy weather...
 
2010-06-30 08:47:35 AM
GoldSpider: DarnoKonrad: Yes there is. That pesky Democracy thing the right keeps trying to get rid of.

There are plenty of restrictions on who can serve in public office. They are not evidence of a plot from the right to overthrow democracy.


Byrd didn't meet any of those restrictions. And considering the number of times I've read "he should not have been elected" by the right, contrary to the wishes of the voters, I must conclude they are antithetical to constitutionally sanctioned will of the electorate -- as they are when it comes to term limits and how they run their primary system.
 
2010-06-30 08:53:50 AM
DarnoKonrad: Byrd didn't meet any of those restrictions. And considering the number of times I've read "he should not have been elected" by the right, contrary to the wishes of the voters, I must conclude they are antithetical to constitutionally sanctioned will of the electorate -- as they are when it comes to term limits and how they run their primary system.

Or perhaps it's just a bad idea to have a doddering old man representing your state. It's not always a vast right-wing conspiracy.
 
2010-06-30 08:57:07 AM
GoldSpider: DarnoKonrad: Byrd didn't meet any of those restrictions. And considering the number of times I've read "he should not have been elected" by the right, contrary to the wishes of the voters, I must conclude they are antithetical to constitutionally sanctioned will of the electorate -- as they are when it comes to term limits and how they run their primary system.

Or perhaps it's just a bad idea to have a doddering old man representing your state. It's not always a vast right-wing conspiracy.


I've never seen any evidence of doddering. At any rate, you're substituting your judgment for the will of the electorate -- which requires no straw stuffed conspiracy, simply a hardwired contempt for democratic representation.
 
2010-06-30 09:01:19 AM
As a conservative whose politics are to the right of Limbaugh and to the left of Buchanan, let me say, that headline wasn't funny. I disliked Senator Byrd, but he's gone. Let both him and his memory rest.
 
2010-06-30 09:06:03 AM
 
2010-06-30 09:06:08 AM
DarnoKonrad: At any rate, you're substituting your judgment for the will of the electorate

Since when do I have to agree with the will of the electorate?
 
2010-06-30 09:09:38 AM
GoldSpider: DarnoKonrad: At any rate, you're substituting your judgment for the will of the electorate

Since when do I have to agree with the will of the electorate?


You don't really have a choice. But then, you didn't really elucidate some rationale for why Mr. Byrd should be barred from office -- merely asserted "there's no reason" he should.

To wit I replied, there's a very good reason. He was elected.
 
2010-06-30 09:10:52 AM
acad1228: to the right of Limbaugh and to the left of Buchanan

You consider Buchanan to the right of Limbaugh?
 
2010-06-30 09:11:11 AM
Approves:

i258.photobucket.com
 
2010-06-30 09:14:21 AM
DarnoKonrad: To wit I replied, there's a very good reason. He was elected.

Thank you
somecallmeduh.files.wordpress.com.
 
2010-06-30 09:17:15 AM
I'm not about to interrupt the right wing hate-fest on Byrd as I don't want to appear a hypocrite when Dick Cheney finally takes his one way ride to the bowels of Hell. It will indeed be a sad day for me when that happens; I will be sad that he didn't live another 100 years in screaming pain.
 
2010-06-30 09:42:33 AM
DarnoKonrad: acad1228: to the right of Limbaugh and to the left of Buchanan

You consider Buchanan to the right of Limbaugh?


Limbaugh at least doesn't have the Nazi-sympathizer thing going that Buchanan does.
 
2010-06-30 09:46:03 AM
PunchDrunkPanda: O HAI GUYZ DID YU HERE HE UZED TO B IN TEH KKK???

Why yes, yes we did hear that he was in the KKK.
 
2010-06-30 09:53:59 AM
Philip Francis Queeg: DarnoKonrad: acad1228: to the right of Limbaugh and to the left of Buchanan

You consider Buchanan to the right of Limbaugh?

Limbaugh at least doesn't have the Nazi-sympathizer thing going that Buchanan does.


I'm not even sure I'd characterize him as more authoritarian.

I think Buchanan has some appreciation for the loyal opposition. I'm pretty sure Limbaugh et al would just imprison or execute the opposition if he could get away with it.
 
2010-06-30 10:01:38 AM
dunno how accurate it is but good trollerific headline subby

+1
 
2010-06-30 10:10:45 AM
www.google.com
no, no, no that fiddle is not tiny enough to use to mock the misfortune of others. This is the senate, damn it!
 
2010-06-30 10:11:16 AM
OK - I spent a lot of time debunking things generally in his favor in the thread on his passing. Not cause I cared - just because I'm unemployed with lots of time and hate kneejerk reactions and labeling. In the course of doing so I believe that he was someone who very much worked at doing things based on his political beliefs and sometimes he was really, really wrong ad slow to change but was willing to be wrong and apologize for it and actually change law to support his new position - for instance supporting the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell in committee on May 26, 2010 and which lets the Blue Dogs and Repubs say "Well if Byrd - a known homosexuality-is-a-sin guy thinks that we should do it - it must be the Right thing to do for the military."

That said - Subby - I thought this headline was really funny - it made me smile.

//Would have been funny for any longest running Senator!
 
2010-06-30 10:36:19 AM
BadAnalogyGuy Quote 2010-06-30 05:26:01 AM
People turn over new leaves. Byrd was a credit to the Senate and the Democratic party. The hate directed at him is laughable considering it mostly comes from the hugely racist Republican right wing.


'Racist Republicans'?
You really need to come up with better talking points.

Name ONE elected Rep that was a member of the KKK.
Name ONE elected Rep that used the word ni**er on Larry King.
Name ONE elected Rep that wrote that he would NEVER serve next to
a Black in the military.
Name ONE elected Rep that called Blacks a 'mongrel race'.
Name ONE that called Condi Rice an 'Aunt Jemima'.
Name ONE that called Colin Powell an 'Uncle Tom'.
Name ONE elected Rep that insulted Clarence Thomas's legal abilities.
Name ONE elected Rep that called conservative Blacks 'self-hating' and '"traitors" to their race'.

Yeah, Democrats said all these things and in the very recent past.
 
2010-06-30 10:47:20 AM
Spindle: There's no class like conservative class.

Seriously, the man is dead, like him or not, show some respect.


f him. I could show Wellstone respect. This guy, no f-in way. I can forgive, but never forget.
 
2010-06-30 10:50:43 AM
douchebag/hater: BadAnalogyGuy Quote 2010-06-30 05:26:01 AM
People turn over new leaves. Byrd was a credit to the Senate and the Democratic party. The hate directed at him is laughable considering it mostly comes from the hugely racist Republican right wing.

'Racist Republicans'?
You really need to come up with better talking points.

Name ONE elected Rep that was a member of the KKK.
Name ONE elected Rep that used the word ni**er on Larry King.
Name ONE elected Rep that wrote that he would NEVER serve next to
a Black in the military.
Name ONE elected Rep that called Blacks a 'mongrel race'.
Name ONE that called Condi Rice an 'Aunt Jemima'.
Name ONE that called Colin Powell an 'Uncle Tom'.
Name ONE elected Rep that insulted Clarence Thomas's legal abilities.
Name ONE elected Rep that called conservative Blacks 'self-hating' and '"traitors" to their race'.

Yeah, Democrats said all these things and in the very recent past.


How is insulting Clarence Thomas's legal abilities an example of racism?
 
2010-06-30 10:59:20 AM
My bet is West Virginia votes him into office again in the next election if his name shows on the ballot.
 
2010-06-30 11:01:48 AM
Triaxis: PunchDrunkPanda: O HAI GUYZ DID YU HERE HE UZED TO B IN TEH KKK???

Why yes, yes we did hear that he was in the KKK.


But he didn't inhale, so it's cool.
 
2010-06-30 11:07:51 AM
Where will the coal-flavored pork come from now?
 
2010-06-30 11:26:28 AM
douchebag/hater: BadAnalogyGuy Quote 2010-06-30 05:26:01 AM
People turn over new leaves. Byrd was a credit to the Senate and the Democratic party. The hate directed at him is laughable considering it mostly comes from the hugely racist Republican right wing.

'Racist Republicans'?
You really need to come up with better talking points.

Name ONE elected Rep that was a member of the KKK.
Name ONE elected Rep that used the word ni**er on Larry King.
Name ONE elected Rep that wrote that he would NEVER serve next to
a Black in the military.
Name ONE elected Rep that called Blacks a 'mongrel race'.
Name ONE that called Condi Rice an 'Aunt Jemima'.
Name ONE that called Colin Powell an 'Uncle Tom'.
Name ONE elected Rep that insulted Clarence Thomas's legal abilities.
Name ONE elected Rep that called conservative Blacks 'self-hating' and '"traitors" to their race'.

Yeah, Democrats said all these things and in the very recent past.


The republicans I know have much stronger terms than Aunt Jemina and Uncle Tom. not about party darlings like rice and powell, but about other people.

And clarence thomas is an idiot. Sorry.
 
2010-06-30 11:28:38 AM
Great_Milenko: The republicans I know have much stronger terms than Aunt Jemina and Uncle Tom. not about party darlings like rice and powell, but about other people.

it's weird how crackers on each side only like black people that agree with them.
 
2010-06-30 11:31:25 AM
skullkrusher: Great_Milenko: The republicans I know have much stronger terms than Aunt Jemina and Uncle Tom. not about party darlings like rice and powell, but about other people.

it's weird how crackers on each side only like black people that agree with them.


It's the flavor that matters: is contempt or terror more appropriate for the ones who disagree with you?
 
2010-06-30 11:48:40 AM
PJ_the_Barbarian: It's the flavor that matters: is contempt or terror more appropriate for the ones who disagree with you?

I'd go with neither though I think contempt and terror can be applied to both sides
 
2010-06-30 12:03:33 PM
skullkrusher: PJ_the_Barbarian: It's the flavor that matters: is contempt or terror more appropriate for the ones who disagree with you?

I'd go with neither though I think contempt and terror can be applied to both sides


from personal experience, I'd say your stereotypical socially conservative suburbanite is much more terrified of "urban culture" than your stereotypical urban progressive is of Condi Rice
 
2010-06-30 12:06:46 PM
PJ_the_Barbarian: skullkrusher: PJ_the_Barbarian: It's the flavor that matters: is contempt or terror more appropriate for the ones who disagree with you?

I'd go with neither though I think contempt and terror can be applied to both sides

from personal experience, I'd say your stereotypical socially conservative suburbanite is much more terrified of "urban culture" than your stereotypical urban progressive is of Condi Rice


terrified as in "fear for one's life" yes. However, the stereotypical left wing politician would be terrified if a majority of black people adopted Condi's politics.
 
2010-06-30 01:16:19 PM
skullkrusher: However, the stereotypical left wing politician would be terrified if a majority of black people adopted Condi's politics.

Any politician is terrified of any reliable voter demographic failing to vote for them. The particular demographic doesn't matter much. Unless you're trotting out that tired canard that the majority of Blacks are subservient to the Democratic party -- which as a spurious argument, is enough not to vote for people espousing it.
 
2010-06-30 01:22:01 PM
DarnoKonrad: Any politician is terrified of any reliable voter demographic failing to vote for them. The particular demographic doesn't matter much.

right. Which is what I said.

DarnoKonrad: Unless you're trotting out that tired canard that the majority of Blacks are subservient to the Democratic party -- which as a spurious argument, is enough not to vote for people espousing it.

"subservient"? No. A solidly Democratic voting block? Yes. What's tired about that?
 
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