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(BBC)   Gaza, in response for support against Israel, decides to burn down a UN summer camp for children   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 195
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2010-06-29 11:15:11 AM  
TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?
 
2010-06-29 11:18:20 AM  
Tatterdemalian: TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?




It's hard for them to fathom because then they would have to admit that Islamic radicalism is the problem and not the Jews.
 
2010-06-29 12:03:22 PM  
Well, go do a GIS for "white phosphorous gaza".

You'll see plenty of Hamas-burned children and adults then.
 
2010-06-29 12:04:50 PM  
RolandGunner: Tatterdemalian: TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?



It's hard for them to fathom because then they would have to admit that Islamic radicalism is the problem and not the Jews.


What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.
 
2010-06-29 12:05:34 PM  
TheShavingofOccam123: Well, go do a GIS for "white phosphorous gaza".

You'll see plenty of Hamas-burned children and adults then.


Hey, these were all done by radical muslin Obama. You're not seeing the what if scenarios.
 
2010-06-29 12:14:19 PM  
TheShavingofOccam123: Well, go do a GIS for "white phosphorous gaza".

You'll see plenty of Hamas-burned children and adults then.


Do a search for "Saddam WMD" and you'll see plenty of missiles and rockets and weaponry buried in the sand or shown in sattelite photos.
 
2010-06-29 12:20:36 PM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend: Do a search for "Saddam WMD" and you'll see plenty of missiles and rockets and weaponry buried in the sand or shown in sattelite photos.

Um. The IDF did use white phosphorous munitions in Gaza.
 
2010-06-29 12:26:26 PM  
Farker T: Brubold: Well you know they probably weren't teaching kids to strap bombs to themselves to kill the evil joos at that camp and they can't have that sort of lack of indoctrination going on with their kids.


Any idea why Palestinians might see 'joos' as 'evil?


The Jews have reason to believe it of all Arabs yet they don't have TV programs for children where they sing songs about martyring themselves and they don't have schools that teach them to do so either.
 
2010-06-29 12:29:26 PM  
Shakin_Haitian: What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.

It's much more likely than white phosphorous turning a baby into a roasted turkey. I've held white phosphorous in my hand in an oxygenated atmosphere. It smokes and glows, but doesn't produce much heat at all. The baby would literally have to have been rolled in powdered WP and then set on fire to have such an effect.
 
2010-06-29 12:30:48 PM  
Tatterdemalian: It's much more likely than white phosphorous turning a baby into a roasted turkey. I've held white phosphorous in my hand in an oxygenated atmosphere. It smokes and glows, but doesn't produce much heat at all. The baby would literally have to have been rolled in powdered WP and then set on fire to have such an effect.

Wow. Un-f*cking-believable.
 
2010-06-29 12:36:33 PM  
Shakin_Haitian: RolandGunner: Tatterdemalian: TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?



It's hard for them to fathom because then they would have to admit that Islamic radicalism is the problem and not the Jews.

What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.


It's not a 'what if' by any stretch.

They use children only a little older as suicide attackers.

Muslims love death more than we love life.
 
2010-06-29 01:02:02 PM  
aaah, those tolerant, peaceable muslims. Can you feel their love warm your heart?
 
2010-06-29 01:24:00 PM  
Tatterdemalian: I've held white phosphorous in my hand in an oxygenated atmosphere. It smokes and glows, but doesn't produce much heat at all.

Oh, I see. So it's like holding a slightly warm marshmallow, huh?

Bwahahaha.
 
2010-06-29 01:24:53 PM  
beoswulf: Shakin_Haitian: RolandGunner: Tatterdemalian: TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?



It's hard for them to fathom because then they would have to admit that Islamic radicalism is the problem and not the Jews.

What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.

It's not a 'what if' by any stretch.

They use children only a little older as suicide attackers.

Muslims love death more than we love life.


Considering that Israel admitted to using white phosphorus, I'd say the what ifs are a little unsubstantiated.

Tatterdemalian: Shakin_Haitian: What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.

It's much more likely than white phosphorous turning a baby into a roasted turkey. I've held white phosphorous in my hand in an oxygenated atmosphere. It smokes and glows, but doesn't produce much heat at all. The baby would literally have to have been rolled in powdered WP and then set on fire to have such an effect.


You are a liar.
 
2010-06-29 02:02:30 PM  
Tatterdemalian: Shakin_Haitian: What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.

It's much more likely than white phosphorous turning a baby into a roasted turkey. I've held white phosphorous in my hand in an oxygenated atmosphere. It smokes and glows, but doesn't produce much heat at all. The baby would literally have to have been rolled in powdered WP and then set on fire to have such an effect.


Dude. You want to hold that Israel did nothing illegal by using WP munitions in the Gaza War, that's one thing. You're entitled to your opinion and you might be able to make some arguments.

But don't lie about what white phosphorus is. It's a fast-burning, highly incendiary substance which sticks to skin and can cause severe burns. You don't help anyone when you tell obvious, ridiculous lies.
 
jvl
2010-06-29 02:13:49 PM  
Farker T: Let's spin it as though the Pallies are trying to kill their own kids!

Spin? Once again, this has nothing to do with Israel, so there is nothing to spin. I know that there are many like yourself who love to fap everytime Israel is mentioned, but really, they aren't involved in this issue.

Fixated much?
 
2010-06-29 02:16:20 PM  
jvl: Spin? Once again, this has nothing to do with Israel, so there is nothing to spin. I know that there are many like yourself who love to fap everytime Israel is mentioned, but really, they aren't involved in this issue.

Fixated much?


It's most likely Fatah or some splinter group that is against the democratically elected Hamas government and it's cooperation with the U.S..
 
2010-06-29 02:16:55 PM  
it's=its
 
2010-06-29 02:17:56 PM  
And the fact that they didn't kill anybody pretty much proves it. If it was IDF in disguise, there would have been at least a little brutality.
 
2010-06-29 02:19:31 PM  
indylaw: Tatterdemalian: Shakin_Haitian: What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.

It's much more likely than white phosphorous turning a baby into a roasted turkey. I've held white phosphorous in my hand in an oxygenated atmosphere. It smokes and glows, but doesn't produce much heat at all. The baby would literally have to have been rolled in powdered WP and then set on fire to have such an effect.

Dude. You want to hold that Israel did nothing illegal by using WP munitions in the Gaza War, that's one thing. You're entitled to your opinion and you might be able to make some arguments.

But don't lie about what white phosphorus is. It's a fast-burning, highly incendiary substance which sticks to skin and can cause severe burns. You don't help anyone when you tell obvious, ridiculous lies.


it's true. Kids love that shiat

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2010-06-29 02:28:44 PM  
jvl: Farker T: Let's spin it as though the Pallies are trying to kill their own kids!

Spin? Once again, this has nothing to do with Israel, so there is nothing to spin. I know that there are many like yourself who love to fap everytime Israel is mentioned, but really, they aren't involved in this issue.

Fixated much?


You clearly don't know Farker T. He'll blame anything on the Jews.
 
2010-06-29 02:57:42 PM  
Kazuya: Absolute failure of a headline subby, no mention of Israel anywhere in that article. What kind of chimp doesn't read TFA they themselves submit?
Nice personification of Gaza too given that it has at least 3 different governing bodies of sorts in operation. Way to boil down the issue for those who don't care about detail or actuality.


In recent world events, the UN has strongly supported Gaza in its struggle against Israel (well, as strongly as the UN can do anything, basically a few angry letters & press statements lol).

Anyway, Subby was commenting on the irony that Hamas would burn these UN camps to the ground after receiving such awesome support.

You can't blame subby because you live under a rock. Step outside sometime, you might find something you like, maybe a gf, wife, job, wealth, fame, fortune.

OR you could keep trollin submitters on fark. Your choice.
 
2010-06-29 03:07:48 PM  
indylaw: But don't lie about what white phosphorus is. It's a fast-burning, highly incendiary substance which sticks to skin and can cause severe burns. You don't help anyone when you tell obvious, ridiculous lies.

I'll believe my "lying" eyes before I believe a bunch of anti-Zionists on the internet.
 
2010-06-29 03:08:47 PM  
Farker T: Let's spin it as though the Pallies are trying to kill their own kids!

Actually, here (new window) is proof that the Pals put up non-combatants - including kids - as human shields during the second intifada (pretty typical time period). It's black and white numbers that uses plain statistics from death records for analysis. If there is any question about who is responsible, the Pals are given the benefit of the doubt.

But you know what? You're not going to read it. None of you Pal supporters do. You think you're rooting for the underdog and there is no amount of facts that will sway you. The Pals play you and everyone else like a cheap fiddle. Their cause is strengthened by you. More innocents die because of the support you give them. They need you because without you, they would have to stop hating Jews because they are Jewish and instead of being bred to kill Jews, they would have to try to live in peace from them.

If you believe Jews target civilians or that Pals don't use civilians as human shields, read all of the research - not just the summary. But as I said, you won't read it - it defies everything you think you know.
 
2010-06-29 03:26:43 PM  
Tatterdemalian: indylaw: But don't lie about what white phosphorus is. It's a fast-burning, highly incendiary substance which sticks to skin and can cause severe burns. You don't help anyone when you tell obvious, ridiculous lies.

I'll believe my "lying" eyes before I believe a bunch of anti-Zionists on the internet.


Let's see a god damn video of you holding white phosphorus liar.
 
2010-06-29 03:35:57 PM  
Tatterdemalian: I'll believe my "lying" eyes before I believe a bunch of anti-Zionists on the internet.

You blew a good troll.

Wait, that doesn't look right.

You jumped the shark.

Still not right.


You almost had us.

Damn.
 
2010-06-29 05:09:31 PM  
Farkomatic: proof

I read your citation and it was interesting and pretty thorough going. I didn't feel that it 'proved' the Palestinians were using civilians/non-combatants as shields, but it certainly showed that Palestinian attacks were more likely to result in the deaths of Israeli civilians/non-combatants as opposed to combatants at a ratio of something like 3 to 1.

This was no big surprise given the methods used by the two sides. The Israeli's attacks are more targeted toward combatants than Palestine would have you believe, (aimed firepower at selected opponents) while Palestinian attacks are more targeted toward Israeli civilians/non-combatants (blowing up buses, markets, theaters, etc.)

My overall impression was that while the Israelis seem to have been exercising a degree of discipline while attempting to inflict as few non-combatant casualties as possible, the Palestinians were trying to kill as many Israelis as possible, without attempting to specifically target just combatants, or in fact avoiding combatants as too dangerous to attack and focusing attacks specifically on non-combatants.

They need a bigger wall.
 
2010-06-29 05:25:03 PM  
Farkomatic: Farker T: Let's spin it as though the Pallies are trying to kill their own kids!

Actually, here (new window) is proof that the Pals put up non-combatants - including kids - as human shields during the second intifada (pretty typical time period). It's black and white numbers that uses plain statistics from death records for analysis. If there is any question about who is responsible, the Pals are given the benefit of the doubt.

But you know what? You're not going to read it. None of you Pal supporters do. You think you're rooting for the underdog and there is no amount of facts that will sway you. The Pals play you and everyone else like a cheap fiddle. Their cause is strengthened by you. More innocents die because of the support you give them. They need you because without you, they would have to stop hating Jews because they are Jewish and instead of being bred to kill Jews, they would have to try to live in peace from them.

If you believe Jews target civilians or that Pals don't use civilians as human shields, read all of the research - not just the summary. But as I said, you won't read it - it defies everything you think you know.


Thanks, Farkomatic. That was an excellent article. You're right though, the usual suspects won't bother to read it because they're not interested in any evidence that contradicts their preconceptions.

The Arabs have succeeded in changing the narrative from "5 million Jews vs. 300 million Arabs" to "5 million Jews vs. 3 million downtrodden Palestinians." Purely as an exercise in demographics, the Israelis don't have much of a chance--if they let their guard down and accede to their Arab demand that they be given one more chance to go on a killing spree.
 
2010-06-29 05:29:17 PM  
red5ish: Farkomatic: proof

I read your citation and it was interesting and pretty thorough going. I didn't feel that it 'proved' the Palestinians were using civilians/non-combatants as shields, but it certainly showed that Palestinian attacks were more likely to result in the deaths of Israeli civilians/non-combatants as opposed to combatants at a ratio of something like 3 to 1.



This was no big surprise given the methods used by the two sides. The Israeli's attacks are more targeted toward combatants than Palestine would have you believe, (aimed firepower at selected opponents) while Palestinian attacks are more targeted toward Israeli civilians/non-combatants (blowing up buses, markets, theaters, etc.)

My overall impression was that while the Israelis seem to have been exercising a degree of discipline while attempting to inflict as few non-combatant casualties as possible, the Palestinians were trying to kill as many Israelis as possible, without attempting to specifically target just combatants, or in fact avoiding combatants as too dangerous to attack and focusing attacks specifically on non-combatants.

They need a bigger wall.


Do you know how to read graphs? check the numbers. Percentages might be correct but 10% of 100 does not equal 10% of 250. Graphs can be manipulated so you see what you want to see. Also 7 years old. Lots has happened in the intervening years.
 
2010-06-29 06:18:31 PM  
wasteofspace: Do you know how to read graphs?

Why yes, I do know how to read graphs. I'm not sure what you are getting at here. I'm guessing you are trying to tell me that the scales are different on the different graphs, and I am aware of that. The ratios between combatants and non-combatants killed remain true ratios independent of the scale. Maybe you meant to convey something else, but it is unclear to me what you are trying to tell me.
 
2010-06-29 06:23:54 PM  
This thread is vuvuzelas.
 
2010-06-29 06:40:11 PM  
red5ish: They need a bigger wall.

There is absolutely nothing the Jews can do. When they build the wall to keep suicide bombers out, they call it an "Apartheid Wall".

There is overwhelming evidence that Hamas and Hezbollah - Hamas being the democratically elected government - use civilian as human shields, people yell when collateral damage occurs. So, instead of leveling the place with F-16's, Israel strategically strikes putting their own troops in harm's way to quell world outrage. If the Israelis try to cut off the supply of arms by bulldozing in tunnels used for smuggling in arms civilian neighborhoods, the world calls foul. If the Israelis cut off arms before the tunnels - on the waterways, the world calls foul.

All of these people ragging on Israel are hypocrites because not one of them would leave their home and go to the country of their origin so native Americans could have the land we stole from them back. Even if you believe this about land - which it is not (the PLO was formed 3 years BEFORE the 6 day war) - no Pal supporter would do what they ask of Israel. No Pal supporter would stand by and allow native Americans to shell our malls and neighborhoods and side with the native Americans when they got their asses kicked for attacking.

I have no dog in this fight - I don't care if they both annihilated each other. But I hate people defending this level of violent racism. Palestinian children are taught that Israel does not exist, they are taught to hate all Jews, and they are taught to kill as many Jews as they can if given the opportunity. People defend this and it blows me away.

Looking at raw data, it is impossible to randomly kill males at a 95% rate. Yet, Israel is blamed for indiscriminate killing when the numbers prove otherwise.

The Pals could get anything they wanted by acting civilized. But there is a reason no other country will take them in either - they turn everyplace they go into a modern day Detroit. If they're not blowing up Jewish mommies and their babies, they're blowing up Jordanian mommies and their babies or shooting up Olympic villages.

This will only stop when the world makes them stop. If you want to save innocent lives, quit defending the Pals.
 
2010-06-29 06:44:55 PM  
Farkomatic: red5ish: They need a bigger wall.

There is absolutely nothing the Jews can do. When they build the wall to keep suicide bombers out, they call it an "Apartheid Wall".

There is overwhelming evidence that Hamas and Hezbollah - Hamas being the democratically elected government - use civilian as human shields, people yell when collateral damage occurs. So, instead of leveling the place with F-16's, Israel strategically strikes putting their own troops in harm's way to quell world outrage. If the Israelis try to cut off the supply of arms by bulldozing in tunnels used for smuggling in arms civilian neighborhoods, the world calls foul. If the Israelis cut off arms before the tunnels - on the waterways, the world calls foul.

All of these people ragging on Israel are hypocrites because not one of them would leave their home and go to the country of their origin so native Americans could have the land we stole from them back. Even if you believe this about land - which it is not (the PLO was formed 3 years BEFORE the 6 day war) - no Pal supporter would do what they ask of Israel. No Pal supporter would stand by and allow native Americans to shell our malls and neighborhoods and side with the native Americans when they got their asses kicked for attacking.

I have no dog in this fight - I don't care if they both annihilated each other. But I hate people defending this level of violent racism. Palestinian children are taught that Israel does not exist, they are taught to hate all Jews, and they are taught to kill as many Jews as they can if given the opportunity. People defend this and it blows me away.

Looking at raw data, it is impossible to randomly kill males at a 95% rate. Yet, Israel is blamed for indiscriminate killing when the numbers prove otherwise.

The Pals could get anything they wanted by acting civilized. But there is a reason no other country will take them in either - they turn everyplace they go into a modern day Detroit. If they're not blowing up Jewish mommies and their babies, they're blowing up Jordanian mommies and their babies or shooting up Olympic villages.

This will only stop when the world makes them stop. If you want to save innocent lives, quit defending the Pals.


It's pointing out the insane hypocrisy of Israel and Israeli supporters more than anything. I guess to make the fight more fair though, we should give the Palestinians more accurate weapons than home made rockets and bombs. Maybe a couple of F-16s too.
 
2010-06-29 07:29:11 PM  
The annihilation of Israel is the stated aim of several countries surrounding Israel and this has become almost a cultural imperative passed from generation to generation. Having an "enemy" to focus your population's fear and hate on is an ancient method of uniting an otherwise divided population while gaining and holding political power.

It's not about land, and it's not about Israel. It's about gaining political power by using a scapegoat, which happens to be Israel.

I don't think Israel can worry too much about P.R. when fighting to defend herself. Building walls, bulldozing tunnels, they have no choice.
 
2010-06-29 09:09:50 PM  
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Agony, blood and death by torture?


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me, NSFW BurntTurkeyBaby made me chuck OMFGs hairballs.

*shudder*
 
2010-06-29 10:15:43 PM  
indylaw: Dude. You want to hold that Israel did nothing illegal by using WP munitions in the Gaza War, that's one thing. You're entitled to your opinion and you might be able to make some arguments.

But don't lie about what white phosphorus is. It's a fast-burning, highly incendiary substance which sticks to skin and can cause severe burns. You don't help anyone when you tell obvious, ridiculous lies.


Once again. Quit repeating terrorist propaganda. You have no clue what you are talking about. Those photos clearly show WP smoke shells. The WP is contained in wedges and is chemically formulated to smolder slowly to release large amounts of smoke over a long period of time. Weaponized WP does not behave like it does in the photo.

Again, about the only ways to get hurt by a WP smoke shell is to either sit on one of the wedges or if you happen to get hit in the head with one, the impact will do more damage than the WP smoke shell will.

Shakin_Haitian: Considering that Israel admitted to using white phosphorus, I'd say the what ifs are a little unsubstantiated.

They admitted to using white phosphorus SMOKE SHELLS. Again, saying that WP smoke shells is the same thing as Weaponized WP is like saying that gasoline and napalm are the same thing. Pure idiocy that only the ignorant say.

COULD they have used non WP smoke shells? Probably. Should they have? Probably, considering how Hamas and terrorist sympathizers like yourself twist the facts. Is it a war crime? No.

TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

Please offer proof that that was caused by WP. Weaponized WP does not behave the way you see in the photo. For one, the burns on the baby are far too shallow to be caused by WP. Weaponized WP typically spreads many small chunks of WP over a large area. (Again, the non-baby photos show a few large chunks, typical of smoke shells.) They rely on the WP being able to cause very small, but very severe burns.

Were those injuries really from WP you would have seen a baby with only a few, but very deep and severe burns. You would not have the uniform "Deep-Fried" appearance seen in the photo.

In all likely-hood, it looks like that baby died in a house fire. Or died from some ailment and was mutilated postmortem. The only reason for the paramedic to be holding the corpse like that is for propaganda purposes.
 
2010-06-29 10:20:21 PM  
Farkomatic: Farker T: Let's spin it as though the Pallies are trying to kill their own kids!

Farkomatic: Actually, here (new window) is proof that the Pals put up non-combatants - including kids - as human shields during the second intifada (pretty typical time period). It's black and white numbers that uses plain statistics from death records for analysis. If there is any question about who is responsible, the Pals are given the benefit of the doubt.

But you know what? You're not going to read it. None of you Pal supporters do. You think you're rooting for the underdog and there is no amount of facts that will sway you. The Pals play you and everyone else like a cheap fiddle. Their cause is strengthened by you. More innocents die because of the support you give them. They need you because without you, they would have to stop hating Jews because they are Jewish and instead of being bred to kill Jews, they would have to try to live in peace from them.

If you believe Jews target civilians or that Pals don't use civilians as human shields, read all of the research - not just the summary. But as I said, you won't read it - it defies everything you think you know.


First, look at what I said, and then see how you extrapolated your response into a strawman of irrelevancy that can only be described as Hazbaric - and you're doing exactly what I said you'd do: SPIN.

That said, were all thing equal, you might have a point. But there is nothing equal between the Israelis and the Palestinians, and to try to hold the Palestinians to the same standards as the Israelis PRETEND to hold is stereotypically arrogant.

Israel is a wealthy modern nation with a strong infrastructure and one of the most powerful military and intelligence forces in the world. They have lived and raised their children in a relatively safe and secure environment, and have inculcated in them a belief of superiority over their neighbors.

Contrast the Palestinians who for decades have been a crushed, downtrodden, oppressed and dehumanized people. Israel has treated them as cruelly and viciously as possible, and the only thing that prevents them being crueler still are the pesky eyes of the meddling 'nations'.

I have a hunch that they don't like using human shields either. Desperate people do desperate things.

If you want the Palestinians to stop resorting to tactics forced on them by sheer desperation, the answer is simple: Arm them with 50% of Israel's tanks, planes, missiles, nukes, infrastructure, etc. Then you guys can kill one another in a way that would be 'honorable' in your eyes.

It's easy, really.
 
2010-06-29 11:55:20 PM  
Farker T: I have a hunch that they don't like using human shields either. Desperate people do desperate things.

I agree and this is why I can't stand the Zionist Jew Pigs -- the way they have forced Palestinians to use their children as human shields in terrorist actions, in wars, and all in lieu of negotiating for their own state. What the fark are the Zionist Jew Pigs thinking when they force the Palestinians to use their children like that?
 
2010-06-30 12:21:46 AM  
Damn it.

I'm with FarkerT for once.

I wish both sides would kill each other off.

Propaganda and lying and baby-bombings at bus stops
and artificially sustained refugee status that PEOPLE
ARE GODDAMN BORN WITH NOW
and flotilla bashing and
that f*cking infernal squeaking Farfour and ruined
cities and Gaza and psychological filth encrustations
and religious ChristoArmageddonWanking/Zionist CRAP!!


I

[kick]

have had

[kick]

ENOUGH

[KICK]

OF YOU!!

[BOOT]
 
2010-06-30 12:26:56 AM  
Farker T: Israel is a wealthy modern nation with a strong infrastructure and one of the most powerful military and intelligence forces in the world.

Geez - I hate arguing with retards. That is an idiotic statement - seriously.

You've framed that sentence as if the Jews and Pals started fighting, so we loaded up Israel with everything they need to kick some Pal ass.

How about we back up 60 or 70 years? First, Hitler was able to annialate Jews because they had no place to go or no way to protect themselves. They were exterminated for being Jewish - it was purely a race issue.

Fast forward to the end of WWII - Britain turns over their land to the Jews and creates Israel - a sovereign democracy. The very next day, Israel was attacked by 6 Arab nations. The very next fricken day!

Through the years, the US has invested in that democracy because failure to do so would have been the extermination of Jews. Had Israel not been armed, the Arab world would have destroyed them. This armament had nothing to do with the Pals. They are armed to counter the Arab nations that still wish their destruction. But instead of doing it themselves, they give money to Pal families to do their dirty work for them.

In the meantime, Jews were ran out of every country in the Arab world. That continues to this day with Iran allowing a tiny Jewish population.

Anyhow, in 1964 the PLO was formed. It's charter - just like Hamas - calls for the destruction of Israel. The Pals had been living in that land owned by Jordan and Egypt. In 1967, every Arab country in the region staged weaponry in the West Bank and Gaza for an attack against Israel. When the shelling started, Israel preemptively upped and kicked everyone's ass. They took control of the West Bank and Gaza because they are strategic locations and were used to make war.

Had Israel not been armed, they would have perished. Finally, in 1970, Jordan had enough of the Pals and expelled the entire lot of them. The Pals wouldn't take a deal from Jordan just like they won't take a deal with Israel. It amazes me the grief everyone has with Israel, but Jordan and Egypt get a free pass.

And here you are with this, "The Jews have more weapons!" as if that had anything to do with the Pals. Jesus Farking Christ - you have no idea who you are defending or why - you just know you should because those poor people are oppressed. Well, here's a news flash - they were being oppressed by every country in the region since the dawn of time because nobody else would put up with their shiat neither.

Now it's 2010 and the Arab world conitinues to try to exterimate Jews because they are Jewish - it was and still is purely a race issue.
 
2010-06-30 01:41:34 AM  
Farkomatic: Farker T: Israel is a wealthy modern nation with a strong infrastructure and one of the most powerful military and intelligence forces in the world.

Geez - I hate arguing with retards. That is an idiotic statement - seriously.


It's entirely factual - your whining notwithstanding. Here again you've picked out ONE sentence, and lunched into a tirade of irrelevancy. Let's see where it goes...

You've framed that sentence as if the Jews and Pals started fighting, so we loaded up Israel with everything they need to kick some Pal ass.

How about we back up 60 or 70 years? First, Hitler was able to annialate Jews because they had no place to go or no way to protect themselves. They were exterminated for being Jewish - it was purely a race issue.



Not at all. Zionists had their eyes set on Palestine LONG before Hitler ever mumbled his first utterances in any beer hall. The Balfour Declaration in which Britain promised Jews a state of their own IN PALESTINE was signed in 1917, Hitler was just
a faceless foot soldier during WWI at the time.

AND said declaration was seen by Germans as a cutthroat stab in the back by Zionism/International Jewry - the same for the Treaty of Versailles. This Zionist skullduggery set the stage for the rise of a Hitler like character that would effectively provide the Zionists with what they NEEDED to fulfill their dream: Warm Jewish bodies to populate the yet-to-be-formalized "Israel".


Fast forward to the end of WWII - Britain turns over their land to the Jews and creates Israel - a sovereign democracy. The very next day, Israel was attacked by 6 Arab nations. The very next fricken day!

What? Do you think that the Germans were the ONLY ones who saw what the Zionists were up to? Do you think that these Arabs should have quietly abandoned any claim they had to the land to these Ashkenazi interlopers?

Through the years, the US has invested in that democracy because failure to do so would have been the extermination of Jews.

That's a nice story, but were it not for Zionist plotting, the damn Jews would have been just fine in Europe. It was the Zionists who sought and secured the land in 1917, it was the Zionists who were more than complicit in seeing that no place OTHER than Palestine would accept the Jews, and created this snowball in hell.

They screwed Jewry to the BONE for the sake of their messianic fantasies - and you celebrate the blood on their hands even as you perpetrate oppression that make Nazi atrocities pale in comparison.

Had Israel not been armed, the Arab world would have destroyed them. This armament had nothing to do with the Pals. They are armed to counter the Arab nations that still wish their destruction. But instead of doing it themselves, they give money to Pal families to do their dirty work for them.

Blah blah bullshiat. Once the Zionists had their toehold firmly in place, they set about doing what they intended to do from the outset - expand expand expand - crushing out any vestige of life and hope for the rightful owners of the real estate.


In the meantime, Jews were ran out of every country in the Arab world. That continues to this day with Iran allowing a tiny Jewish population.


Jews have been run out of almost EVERY country that they ever set foot in at one time or another. Why? Because they ALWAYS see their hosts as a mark to be exploited, and then an enemy to be vanquished. You are the ones who refuse to get along with your hosts and neighbors, who insist on maintaining the US-VS-THEM mindset that serves you well in the short term, but ALWAYS leads to your peril.

You never learn. And you hurt many others in the process.


Anyhow, in 1964 the PLO was formed. It's charter - just like Hamas - calls for the destruction of Israel.


Dude, you had no business being there in the first place. Whine all you like, but you can't blame Hitler and the Nazis for the underhanded dealings that led to the Balfour Declaration in 1917.

You, are the revisionists, forever trying to paint yourselves as innocent victims, when in fact it was your own racist ethnocentrism and supremacism that has led to your demise, time and time again.

There MUST be an 'introspection gene', and it must be lacking in your mitochondrial DNA.

I deleted the rest of your irrelevant nasal whine. If there was something that you feel was vitally important, please post it.

Humanity is quickly evolving beyond the closed ethnocentric tribal mindset that has gripped your species for a hundred generations. Ironically, Jewish efforts have greatly helped to advance this evolution, but they did so not for the sake of humanity, but to forward their own ethnocentric goals. Unfortunately, this made your bunch miss the boat.

Your brand evolutionary strategy is about to be rendered obsolete. I would like to welcome you to join us, but you'll have to stop thinking like Jews, and start thinking like humans.

Shalom, baby.
 
2010-06-30 04:53:18 AM  
wolfpaq777: Kazuya: Absolute failure of a headline subby, no mention of Israel anywhere in that article. What kind of chimp doesn't read TFA they themselves submit?
Nice personification of Gaza too given that it has at least 3 different governing bodies of sorts in operation. Way to boil down the issue for those who don't care about detail or actuality.

In recent world events, the UN has strongly supported Gaza in its struggle against Israel (well, as strongly as the UN can do anything, basically a few angry letters & press statements lol).

Anyway, Subby was commenting on the irony that Hamas would burn these UN camps to the ground after receiving such awesome support.

You can't blame subby because you live under a rock. Step outside sometime, you might find something you like, maybe a gf, wife, job, wealth, fame, fortune.

OR you could keep trollin submitters on fark. Your choice.


Much like your post, the statement "Gaza, in response for support against Israel...." references the abstract, incorrect and irrelevant.

The first word Gaza replaces what TFA described as 25 armed men with the patch of land they live on. Literally it could only make sense if lava spilled out from the cracks in the land to burn down the school. Figuratively it's a vague and intellectually dishonest claim.

After the failure of Subby's first word things go downhill, if you can explain how in response for support against makes any sense I'd really like to hear it. Google translate might have had something to do with it.


Finally the inclusion of Israel in the sentence (whatever the fark it meant so far anyway) has to be a complete failure as Israel isn't mentioned once in the article. The supposed motives of these men is the mixing of genders in the school.

Sometimes you have to put politics aside and call a sponge a sponge.
 
2010-06-30 12:40:05 PM  
Farker T: I would like to welcome you to join us, but you'll have to stop thinking like Jews, and start thinking like humans.

You really are a worthless sack of shiat.
 
2010-06-30 01:05:18 PM  
 
2010-06-30 01:36:16 PM  
clambam: You really are a worthless sack of shiat.

Not to defend the guy, but the problem is that he hates today's Jews because of yesterday's Jews. Because of Jewish behavior a century ago, today's Jews should pack up their belongings and leave to other non-Arab countries (because they are not allowed there either), the Palestinians should be allowed to continue to deny Israel's right to exist while attacking innocents daily, the Pals should continue to allow Arab nations to use the West Bank and Gaza for strategic purposes when waging war, and Israel should only be allowed to defend itself the way the poster sees fit.

Other than that, we're in almost perfect agreement.
 
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