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(BBC)   Gaza, in response for support against Israel, decides to burn down a UN summer camp for children   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 191
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2010-06-29 01:11:29 AM
Two days before the summer camp was vandalized, an extremist Islamic group called itself "the free of the homeland" had sent a leaflet to reporters, slamming the international humanitarian organization for teaching the children dancing and debauchery.

Some people say the Palestinians need a Ghandi like figure to lead them to freedom and self-determination. I think this event makes it obvious that what they really need is not a Ghandi, but a Kevin Bacon.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2010-06-29 01:14:54 AM
Brubold: Well you know they probably weren't teaching kids to strap bombs to themselves to kill the evil joos at that camp and they can't have that sort of lack of indoctrination going on with their kids.


Any idea why Palestinians might see 'joos' as 'evil?
 
2010-06-29 01:18:56 AM
Bubbarella 2010-06-28 10:51:16 PM
1 Samuel 27:8-9:

"And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites ... And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel. And David saved neither man nor woman alive"

They should have kept it that way and wouldn't be havin all that trouble now.
I wish Abraham had killed Ishmael, we coulda stopped all this.
We could have the temple again too.


---

From the James T. Kirk Institute of Diplomacy, part II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vweSLmSgO-k&NR=1
(copy/paste, SFW but not for Jesus Freaks)
 
2010-06-29 01:26:33 AM
Thrag: Some people say the Palestinians need a Ghandi like figure to lead them to freedom and self-determination.

A Ghandi can't live long enough to effect any change when extremist groups from within his country will kill him for not being violent, and the military/police force group from the country he's protesting against doesn't give a shiat about not killing him/brutalizing him into a coma during his protest.
 
2010-06-29 01:43:34 AM
Kittypie070: SFW but not for Jesus Freaks

Which begs the question - what is SFW for Jeebus Freaks?
 
2010-06-29 01:53:23 AM
PunchDrunkPanda: Kittypie070: SFW but not for Jesus Freaks

Which begs the question - what is SFW for Jeebus Freaks?


Agony, blood and death by torture?
 
jvl
2010-06-29 02:04:19 AM
Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

Oh, well that TOTALLY explains burning down a UN summer camp.

Thanks for enlightening me without setting fire to me.
 
2010-06-29 02:14:50 AM
jvl: Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

Oh, well that TOTALLY explains burning down a UN summer camp.

Thanks for enlightening me without setting fire to me.



The camp burning was stoopid but...

Quick!

Let's forget that whoever it was, they did it in the middle of the night when no children were present, and that no one was injured!

Let's spin it as though the Pallies are trying to kill their own kids!

Israel has the right to protect itself!
 
2010-06-29 02:16:22 AM
Gaza burned something down? How does a strip of land burn down a summer camp?

Ah, an attempt to paint everyone that lives there with the same brush.

Typical.
 
2010-06-29 02:17:47 AM
There are no good guys anywhere in the Middle East. For a while it was worth it to back the smallest bastard, but can we just glass the place already?
 
2010-06-29 02:27:51 AM
Sygerrik: There are no good guys anywhere in the Middle East. For a while it was worth it to back the smallest bastard, but can we just glass the place already?


But that would kill all of that lovely HATE!

When Satan walks the Earth, the Middle East is where he goes to warm his hands.
 
2010-06-29 03:28:04 AM
img514.imageshack.us
Beautiful Camp Hamas
Sport - Crafts - Outside Activities
NO Filthy Girls Allowed!
 
2010-06-29 03:52:10 AM
To be honest the Hamas camps' curriculum is less anti-Jewish than the UN camps'.
 
2010-06-29 03:53:04 AM
A piece of land burns a camp "down"? How far down? Is it underground now?
 
2010-06-29 04:07:51 AM
When is civilization going to come to its senses and purge these beetles from the planet?
 
2010-06-29 04:11:27 AM
Mrtraveler01: Chimperror2: Mrtraveler01: GilRuiz1: Mrtraveler01: So Muslims are automatically dangerous? Well I don't know if you're trying to be racist, but that sounds pretty racist to me.

Is "Muslim" a race?

Yeah, I realize that after I submitted that post. But what our fellow Farker posted was still bigoted.

no it wasn't. And you are a moron. Intellect and ability to detect humor are tightly coupled. Re-read what was written and see if you can overcome your stupidity.

Well this is what you said:

"No farking way detroit is safe enough for children. They have the highest Muslim population of all those places and it's just crazy."

So if you didn't mean to attack Muslims with that statement, why did you bother to put it in?


Previous poster:
"Send your kids to CAMP! Have them learn wonderful life skills such as Molotov cocktail manufacture, bullet dodging, land mine detection and removal!"

"Camps now open worldwide, including:

Gaza, (Israel|Palastine)
Kandahar, Afghanistan
Mogadishu, Somalia
Detroit, Michigan
Dili, Timor-Leste
..and many more!"


Me: "No farking way detroit is safe enough for children. They have the highest Muslim population of all those places and it's just crazy."

Now read it slower. S-L-O-W-E-R. Try putting on your sarcasm detector. Try to read it as slow as your intellect.

Now, what strikes you about my statement? Anything?

/Hint: this game is called "one of these things is not like the other" and is played by 3 year olds on sesame street.

//the sad part is that the real racism/bigotry is that someone could read a statement from the original poster and believe he was making a legitimate comparison between those war ravaged third world city and a city in a first world country. Hint: no matter how bad detroit is, it is always in context to other U.S. cities. Of those cities listed by the poster, Detroit has the lowest muslim population (though perhaps it's suburbs have the highest in the U.S.) Despite that, Detroit has no terrorism to speak of in contrast to all the other cities listed (no causation to Muslims, just the poverty in Detroit is nowhere near Gaza or Mogadishu, bigot boy). Jeebus, you didn't even get the joke by the original poster. Why am I even thinking you may get smarter? Did the light at least flicker or are you still flat lining?
 
2010-06-29 04:20:48 AM
Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

For the last time. That's a godamed WP smoke shell, which are perfectly legal to use. The Isralis used those to counter the Hamas snipers and anti-tank teams that were hiding in the buildings. The only way you're gonna get hurt by that is if you sit on one of the wedges.

It was either use smoke shells or level the buildings with high explosives. Take your pick.

Please educate yourself and stop repeating terrorist propaganda.
 
2010-06-29 04:41:24 AM
Crosshair: Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

For the last time. That's a godamed WP smoke shell, which are perfectly legal to use. The Isralis used those to counter the Hamas snipers and anti-tank teams that were hiding in the buildings. The only way you're gonna get hurt by that is if you sit on one of the wedges.

It was either use smoke shells or level the buildings with high explosives. Take your pick.

Please educate yourself and stop repeating terrorist propaganda.


I say level it.

/And use explosives from the inside so it looks like some retarded suicide bomber went off earlier.

//And why don't we have a high capacity cell phone dialer? In places like gaza and baghdad, just randomly, throughout the week, dial every possible cell phone number and see who pops.
 
2010-06-29 04:44:16 AM
macil22: When is civilization going to come to its senses and purge these beetles from the planet?

Weird - I could swear it's that attitude that's creating the situation in the first place.
 
2010-06-29 04:48:58 AM
Crosshair: Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

For the last time. That's a godamed WP smoke shell, which are perfectly legal to use. The Isralis used those to counter the Hamas snipers and anti-tank teams that were hiding in the buildings. The only way you're gonna get hurt by that is if you sit on one of the wedges.

It was either use smoke shells or level the buildings with high explosives. Take your pick.

Please educate yourself and stop repeating terrorist propaganda.


If by "perfectly legal" you mean "right at the edge of the law if you reclassify the building from a civilian building to a military building and no one is really going to mount a legal challenge to it because the USA will automatically veto any challenge". Then yes, it's legal in the same way Agent Orange was "legal"
 
2010-06-29 04:49:33 AM
GilRuiz1: Mrtraveler01: So Muslims are automatically dangerous? Well I don't know if you're trying to be racist, but that sounds pretty racist to me.

Is "Muslim" a race?


No.

Not even a little.

You can argue that Judaism is kind of a race, because they're tribal, but Islam is an evangelical religion, they convert whoever and you don't have to marry in to join.

It's a religion, and honestly as such we get to hate on it as much as we want. (Also because, like most Abrahamic variants, it's exceptionally full of fail even for a religion.)
 
2010-06-29 05:31:49 AM
its easy for self righteous armchair Americans to criticise what they know nothing of.

Who would want Gaza for a neighbor?
Why don't these armchair Americans adopt a few Gaza-bos and share their homes with them?
then they can blow up your local church picknick, pta, or girl scout troop.
y'all need neighbors like that,
might get you up out of your arm chairs and into the sunlight.
or, at least, get you up.
 
2010-06-29 05:50:14 AM
JSTACAT: its easy for self righteous armchair Americans to criticise what they know nothing of

Who or what are you responding to? Or are you just swinging in the dark?
 
2010-06-29 06:00:44 AM
RoyBatty: My daughter's at a Girl Scout camp specializing in horseback riding

*fapfapfap*
 
2010-06-29 06:02:42 AM
red5ish: JSTACAT: its easy for self righteous armchair Americans to criticise what they know nothing of

Who or what are you responding to? Or are you just swinging in the dark?


I think there might be drool on his keyboard. The words "what they know nothing of" and "y'all" should not be written in the same paragraph by the same author.

If he's swinging, it's with T-Rex arms.
 
2010-06-29 06:44:31 AM
This is why - any and every time any Muslim ever decries the "intolerance" they allegedly face - they need to be told to STFU.

Never has a more violent and intolerant group of people walked the face of the Earth while simultaneously demanding that others respect their beliefs, etc.

"Hypocrisy" doesn't even begin to remotely define them.
 
2010-06-29 06:58:44 AM
grimstveit.no
Absolute failure of a headline subby, no mention of Israel anywhere in that article. What kind of chimp doesn't read TFA they themselves submit?
Nice personification of Gaza too given that it has at least 3 different governing bodies of sorts in operation. Way to boil down the issue for those who don't care about detail or actuality.
 
2010-06-29 07:19:35 AM
Crosshair: Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

For the last time. That's a godamed WP smoke shell, which are perfectly legal to use. The Isralis used those to counter the Hamas snipers and anti-tank teams that were hiding in the buildings. The only way you're gonna get hurt by that is if you sit on one of the wedges.

It was either use smoke shells or level the buildings with high explosives. Take your pick.

Please educate yourself and stop repeating terrorist propaganda.


White phosphorus burns either way, jackass. Hey these are hollow point bullets, they aren't the same as non hollow bullets.
 
2010-06-29 08:14:33 AM
Jim_Callahan: because they're tribal

?
 
2010-06-29 08:26:23 AM
Chimperror2: I say level it.

/And use explosives from the inside so it looks like some retarded suicide bomber went off earlier.


What the fark is wrong with you?
 
2010-06-29 08:50:31 AM
Kazuya: Nice personification of Gaza too given that it has at least 3 different governing bodies of sorts in operation. Way to boil down the issue for those who don't care about detail or actuality.

Protip: It's pretty difficult to justify Israel's collective punishment of the people in Gaza unless you constantly portray them as monolithic horde of crazed terrorist jew-haters.

1. We rock.
2. They suck.
3. You suck.
4. Everything sucks.
 
2010-06-29 09:07:32 AM
randomjsa: They were dancing in the streets on 9/11.

At that point, I no longer cared about them because I knew then and there that they were the reason there was no peace between themselves and Israel.


Feeling sorry for Palestinians is like feeling sorry for the Menendez brothers because the poor guys were orphans.

Peace in that region will only come when the Pals recognize Israel's right to exist and quit acting like uncivilized thugs. Peace can only come when Palesinians begin loving their lives more than their hatred of Jews for being, well - Jews. If you continue to think this is about land - which the Pals want you to beleive - explain the PLO in 1964 - three years before the 1967 6 day war. Their charter then - just like the charter now - calls for the destruction of Israel and there were no "occupied territories".
 
2010-06-29 09:30:58 AM
Chicago, in response for people having money desired by the better armed, decides to murder three in robbery-homicides.

/hamas sucks, but they're a sub-issue of the '67 occupation
 
2010-06-29 09:32:19 AM
Farker T: Israel will just blame the Holocaust.

How dare they! Maybe they should just leave their homes and spread out all across the Arab countries to be with other Jews.

Oh wait - you can't because THERE ARE NONE.

I think Iran has a couple Jewish communities and they are protected by law. But Jews - when they are not being led to gas chambers - have been expelled by every Arab nation in the region except for Iran.

But none of this is called ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing is when you give millions of dollars in tax revenues, send 100 truckloads of humanitarian aid every day, and do everything imaginable to reduce collateral damage when defending yourself from people who try to destroy you every day of every year.
 
2010-06-29 09:50:46 AM
GAT_00: Oh good, Tats is here to provide the official Israeli government propaganda. Are you going to show us pictures of the beaches of Gaza and say everyone is happy, like the Soviets used to do for propaganda?

Both sides are bad! Vote Hamas?
 
2010-06-29 09:57:06 AM
NINDroog: Damn Israelis. We need to show them that you can't take away a peoples land and get away with it. For back up, we'll produce a map of Palastine...when controlled by Palestinians. Because if we couldn't it might look like it kinda was a religious thing, and only Jews are the bad guys. Thankfully that is totally not the case, and Palestinians will not only demonstrate their long and glorious independent history, but might also clear up their distaste for suici...of fark it.

I keep staring at this paragraph hoping to see the sailboat, but I can't.
 
2010-06-29 09:58:10 AM
indylaw: It's a schooner!
 
2010-06-29 10:26:14 AM
Crosshair: Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

For the last time. That's a godamed WP smoke shell, which are perfectly legal to use. The Isralis used those to counter the Hamas snipers and anti-tank teams that were hiding in the buildings. The only way you're gonna get hurt by that is if you sit on one of the wedges.

It was either use smoke shells or level the buildings with high explosives. Take your pick.

Please educate yourself and stop repeating terrorist propaganda.


Very not safe for work. Don't look unless you want it burned in your memory.

Very NSFW. Don't look if you don't want the image to stay with you for the rest of your life. (new window)

Very not safe for work. Don't look unless you want it burned in your memory.

Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.
 
2010-06-29 10:31:13 AM
Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

static.guim.co.uk

That's just a fireworks display the IDF put on for the enjoyment of a Gaza residents.
 
2010-06-29 10:34:37 AM
mrexcess: indylaw: It's a schooner!

bunch of Junk

No really

The Joos should return the land to the British Empire.

Who should in turn give it to the Byzantines.

Who should give it to the Romans.

Who should give it to the Joos.

Who should give to the Babalonians.

Who should give to the Joos.

Who should give it to Elohim. And get their deposit back.
 
2010-06-29 10:38:09 AM
yert: The Joos should return the land to the British Empire.

Who should in turn give it to the Byzantines.

Who should give it to the Romans.

Who should give it to the Joos.

Who should give to the Babalonians.

Who should give to the Joos.

Who should give it to Elohim. And get their deposit back.


Who should give it back to the Canaanites / Philistines.
 
2010-06-29 10:52:29 AM
whatshisname: Was that Lady Gaza or Lord Gaza?

Radio Gaza.
 
2010-06-29 11:02:27 AM
Fish in a Barrel: Emposter: Fish in a Barrel: Shakin_Haitian: I just can't get enough of this picture. This isn't terrorism because these weapons cost a lot of money.

What exactly are those? They look like IR counter-measure flares.

I've been assured that it totally isn't white phosphorous at all.

Ah, I see. Never seen a picture of a WP shell exploding. Nasty stuff.


You still haven't seen one...
 
2010-06-29 11:12:37 AM
TheShavingofOccam123:
Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.



Well, given that the Islamic radicals are blood thirsty monsters that don't give a shiat about humanity (new window) I would guess there is one good possibility that the child was burned and photographed for the sake of publicity.
 
2010-06-29 11:14:10 AM
yert
The Joos should return the land to the British Empire.

Wow, all that for a bad Mallrats reference.

I don't know about The Joos, but if you want to know what I think about the conundrum facing modern-day Israel, here's a great new article from John Mearshiemer on the subject.
 
2010-06-29 11:14:46 AM
Mearsheimer, yeargh.
 
2010-06-29 11:15:11 AM
TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?
 
2010-06-29 11:18:20 AM
Tatterdemalian: TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?




It's hard for them to fathom because then they would have to admit that Islamic radicalism is the problem and not the Jews.
 
2010-06-29 12:03:22 PM
Well, go do a GIS for "white phosphorous gaza".

You'll see plenty of Hamas-burned children and adults then.
 
2010-06-29 12:04:50 PM
RolandGunner: Tatterdemalian: TheShavingofOccam123: Please explain how this baby was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell. It doesn't appear to be a sniper hiding in a building.

It wasn't. It was turned into a smoked turkey by Palestinians that claim it was turned into a roast turkey by a smoke shell.

They strap bombs to their children for propaganda purposes, why is it so unthinkable that they wouldn't stick their children in a deep fat fryer for the same propaganda purposes?



It's hard for them to fathom because then they would have to admit that Islamic radicalism is the problem and not the Jews.


What if scenarios are fun. What if Obama himself flew over and roasted that baby? Clearly all muslims are bloodthirsty enough to enjoy a smoked baby sandwich.
 
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