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(Bostonchannel.com)   Man who exposed his thong to a group of 13-year-old girls gets arrest thrown out. State Supreme Court rules that defendant did not have fair notice that exposure of thong-clad buttocks was a prosecutable offense   (thebostonchannel.com) divider line 102
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2003-05-30 04:58:21 PM  
What the hell is asinine about this? It was thrown out because it isn't illegal. You don't see the cops out there arresting all the women walking around in thong bikinis.
 
2003-05-30 05:11:15 PM  
I'm curious about the legal standard here. You often hear "ignorance of the law is no excuse" and that makes sense if you're trying to argue that, for instance, you knew stealing was wrong but thought that stealing from nuns was okay (bad example, I know). If, on the other hand, you're arrested for wearing an orange hat on a Thursday because some little podunk town has a law against it, I would think that ignorance was a pretty good excuse.
 
2003-05-30 05:15:47 PM  
Ignorance of the law is no defense, but laws can't be unconstitutionally vague -- they have to give sufficient notice about what sorts of acts constitute crimes. It's not that he was unaware of the law; it's that the law was itself unaware of what it comprised.
 
2003-05-30 05:42:27 PM  
Greatest. Use. Of. . Ever.
 
2003-05-30 05:43:41 PM  
"ignorance of the law is no excuse" is the worst excuse ever. Ask any judge or lawyer if he thinks ANYONE is capable of memorizing all the Federal, State, and Municipal code...it is ridiculous on the face of it. EVERYONE is ignorant of MOST of the law, including all judges and juries.
 
2003-05-30 05:54:56 PM  
C'mon all he did was moon some...er...13 year old...umm...girls. Ok, this guy might need to be closely watched over the next few years. Although, the article doesn't say how old the male is.
 
2003-05-30 06:19:47 PM  
The State Supreme Court was right to throw out the charges if there is no law prohibiting showing a thong in public. However, I think charges for disorderly conduct or the like would apply.
 
2003-05-30 07:56:53 PM  
Although I agree that the baring of your A$$ to a group of 13 year old girls is kinda sick.....but, you see thong clad A$$es all the time on a beach. So, are the police going to arrest everyone this summer who goes to the beach wearing thong swimwear? Personally, this guy deserves a MAJOR beating for doing this to 13 year old kids on a public road, but I can also understand that indecent exposure laws were not broken. Glad to see he is not getting off totally free though.
 
2003-05-30 10:10:26 PM  
Is it illegal for 16- and 17-year-olds to parade in thongs in front of you? Not that I advocate handing thongs to 16- or 17-year-olds so that they may wear it if they wanted to, I'm just posing a question. Really, it's just a question.

*knock-knock

*escapes by jumping through a closed window
 
2003-05-31 12:14:23 AM  
Thanks, Comfortably_Numb, I'm going to go ask my 16 and 17 year old friends if they are wearing thongs.


When I grow up, I want to be a dirty old man.
 
2003-05-31 02:00:44 AM  
TheOmni It aint all it's cracked up to be.
 
2003-05-31 02:58:24 AM  
It's not illegal, but it's wrong.
 
2003-05-31 06:06:18 AM  
Pure bullshiat.
 
2003-05-31 06:11:49 AM  
does the article say if the 13 year old s showed him their thongs?
 
2003-05-31 06:12:51 AM  
I dont mind 17 year old girls wearing thongs



/I'm 17
 
2003-05-31 06:25:26 AM  
Christ i wear thongs all the time !.. Around the house - at work - in bars - hell even to church.



You guys are just up tight.
 
2003-05-31 06:27:24 AM  
For everyone who says "ignorance of the law is no excuse" is a stupid copout for judges and the state, tell that to all the people in New York who are getting citations left and right for laws that no one had heard of, like sitting on a milk crate.

As far as this case is concerned, if the girls had not reacted as they did, telling their parents or cops (article does not say what they did), what would he have have done next? He may have been a child molester who was making his first moves.

This may now become standard operating procedure for child molesters on the prowel, since they now know they can not be arrested for flashing their underwear at little girls.

Anyone of you with a 13 year old kid, like me, how would you feel if this was your child? Wouldn't you want this perv to go to jail?
 
2003-05-31 06:30:19 AM  
What the hell is asinine about this? It was thrown out because it isn't illegal. You don't see the cops out there arresting all the women walking around in thong bikinis.

Women are much more discreet and coy in practicing their exhibitionist tendencies. Society does have a double standard based upon the method of exposure. Though it could be argued that the base desire is not too different.
 
2003-05-31 06:30:26 AM  
The Supreme Judicial Court agreed, saying in its ruling that the defendant did not have fair notice that exposure of thong-clad buttocks was a prosecutable offense.

But now the rest of the world knows... seriously, I've seen men wearing thongs on South Beach for like ages, and I'm not in the least scarred by that. Plus, did he really intentionally show his butt cheeks to 13-year-old girls?
 
2003-05-31 06:31:43 AM  
Okay, he did. My bad. I even read the article before posting. Honest.
 
2003-05-31 06:32:59 AM  
Draksig
My thoughts on how to treay kiddy diddlers..

if you catch my drift...
 
2003-05-31 06:33:10 AM  
Oh *yawn*.. as if 13 year-olds are so innocent as to be offended by some guy in a thong.

Ok, well, I remember being 13, and I think it might have bothered me too. Unless the guy had a really cute ass!

Well, yeah, it might have bothered me even then. But I'm a guy, so, I don't really have a valid opinion on this subject.
 
2003-05-31 06:37:02 AM  
It's that bloody Jackass show again i tell ya.




red__robot = cuteness.
 
2003-05-31 06:42:31 AM  
 
2003-05-31 06:45:25 AM  
how wuz i supposed 2 no murder was illegel??? :[]]
 
2003-05-31 06:45:38 AM  
This guy is obviously a sick fjck, a child molester, and now he has the opportunity to strike again. And this time it will be MUCH worse, I can assure you.
 
2003-05-31 06:50:07 AM  
TheSelphie:
I bet.
 
2003-05-31 06:50:46 AM  
fark the law, just put a bullet in his brain and be done with it.

/stupid "due process"
 
2003-05-31 06:50:52 AM  
of course, since the article gives no details, it's quite possible it was some 18 year old punk mooning a bunch of girls just because he was a dumbass.
it never said he dropped his pants and waved his package at the girls and told them it was "sweet candy of life"
 
2003-05-31 06:55:28 AM  
Comfortably_Numb
Funniest.Post.Evar. (Well, at least since I started drinking tonight.)

Seriously though. It seems like this guy was grasping at straws to "explain" his behaviour. I am inclined to believe that this guy knew exactly what he was doing.
Farkin perv.

If I had a daughter, or a kid...or hell even someone willing to breed with me...and he pulled this shiat- It wouldnt make it to trial.
 
2003-05-31 06:58:22 AM  
I think he's funny...

Would be funnier though if he killed some of the chicks...

with his ass...

... yayy for spontaneous bloodbath...

:-)
 
2003-05-31 07:26:10 AM  
No need to read the article with a headline this long....
 
2003-05-31 07:26:39 AM  
When I was 13, some deranged (but harmless) perv disrobed and ran screaming through our schoolyard.

Funniest thing that happened all year.
 
2003-05-31 07:27:31 AM  
It is very early on a Saturday morning and comments from Farkers are few and far between. What is that expression? How does it go, exactly? Hmmmm......oh, yes! I remember it now: Duh!
 
2003-05-31 07:36:12 AM  
fark... its morning? Music combined with video game coding takes the hours away from you. Well in 2 years I'll be laughing at corporations.
 
2003-05-31 07:45:06 AM  

How much ass was exposed and should we start measuring?

I have seen numerous women with a huge amount of thong exposed before and the same standards should apply.
If you can't see a hole it should be legal, I like chicks in thongs.

 
2003-05-31 07:46:16 AM  
It's all about environment. At certain locations, buttocks, boobies etc are de-sexualised up to a degree. That's why it's ok at beaches, and a woman baring her boobies or wearing a thong isn't a 'fark me now' signal.

If the dude went around with a thong on the beach, the cops wouldn't arrest him, at least not here. Bad taste is not a criminal offense, neither is coming off a rather gay.

But he didn't do it on a beach, and he wasn't just walking around doing normal things. He deliberately flashed his hairy ass at girls in front of a school.

Probably got some kind of sexual arousal from it, but there's no way we can tell. Perhaps he was just doing something he considered 'funny' - mooning the girls. There is way too little information in the article to make an accurate judgement - was it totally unprovoked etc? No way to tell.

I find the judge's decision to be rather idiotic though, as it would be obvious to 99% of the public that baring your buttocks in front of a school and some young girls is illegal.

OTOH, assuming that 13 year old girls are innocent little things that must be protected from all kinds of nudity is absurd. These days, (too) many girls are sexually active at that age. Your daughter might be.

Maybe it was just the people I hung around in my teens, but the girls around then would either overwhelm him with verbal abuse and ridicule or kick his ass. Or both. Not that I condone his behaviour; it's just too bad the girls dinnae kick his butt :).

I hope this thing gets noted somewhere, so that if in the future he does something more, the authorities will at least know it and may prove a pattern of 'disruptive' behaviour.
 
2003-05-31 07:47:07 AM  
Hyteses's Unsolicited Cautionary Words of the Day

I truly hope that you will be exception to the rule, Crazyjim, but keep in mind that corporations almost always get the last laugh. Sad. But true.
 
2003-05-31 07:54:42 AM  
"EVERYONE is ignorant of MOST of the law, including all judges and juries."

This is where jury nullification comes in. Great thing that.
 
2003-05-31 07:58:01 AM  
And STILL, you farkers won't listen to me when I say we need to outlaw "thongs"!

/Lord of New Cliches.
 
2003-05-31 08:11:41 AM  
Maybe the guy was just proud of the fact that he finally learned to wear a thong on the right side.
I would imagine that the judges must have looked amusing with thongs on their heads-backward.

I think the cops were just jealous.

Why didn't I take the BLUE pill?
 
2003-05-31 08:54:13 AM  
Hytes Xian, its all a game, and corporations rarely make unexpected moves.
 
2003-05-31 08:58:05 AM  
I wish people would stop making jokes about ignorance of the law like "how wuz i supposed 2 no murder was illegel??? :[]]"

The fact is that what he did was not illegal under the laws he was prosecuted for violating. You cannot be arrested for breaking non-existant rules and anyone who thinks you should be able to is, at best, a moron.
 
2003-05-31 09:00:30 AM  
I think this judgement was right. It is not obvious if what he did was illegal or not.

How can you say that a 13 year old seeing you on a BEACH wearing a thong is not illegal, but seeting you in front of a SCHOOL wearing a thong is? And what if the school is near a beach and some kid sees you then?

And does it really make a difference if he had a trench coat on and suddenly revealed that all he was wearing was a thong, or whether he just walked around with the thong without a trenchcoat?

I also don't agree with people who say he's sick. He was in a thong. It was an ass. My freind mooned me once, it's no big deal seeing someone's ass. Hell, you can see people's asses on TV in Britain without any censoring can't you? Like there was a commercial with a naked guy running across a rugby course I think.

Laws against nutiy are stupid. I'm no exhibitionist myself, nor do I want to look at some guy's package, but being nude should be everyone's contitutional right. It seems to me to that a society which concerns itself with covering up it's natrual body is pretty primitive. We laugh at all the people from victorian eras wearing 10 layers of clothing in 90 degree weather. Well people 100 years from now are gonna laugh at us. I bet in 100 years it will be common for women to go topless in the summer just like men can.

In fact I wonder if any woman has ever tried to fight any regulation about that in court. I mean, if a woman DID go topless, and it's legal for MEN to do so... That's discrimination based on gender.

Of course women already get away with it to a very limited degree when breast feeding, or on a beach sometimes if they're discreet.

Hey didn't some woman get arrested or something for breast feeding a couple years back? I think he kids got taken away from her when she asked if it was normal for it to feel good when the kid was breast feeding. That got the assinine tag too I think.
 
2003-05-31 09:07:14 AM  
Well, I hadn't heard about the 'feel good' one, but there was another one earlier this year who lost her children when her husband (boyfriend?) took a picture of her breastfeeding because it was "child porn" in Texas. That was pretty stupid, too.
 
2003-05-31 09:10:11 AM  
If some wierdo thong-mooned the girls I knew at age thirteen, they would have absolutely loved it and would have giggled about it for weeks afterwards.
 
2003-05-31 09:10:32 AM  
My problem is that I'm trying to figure out the ASININE tag. Is it:

A) because an a*s*s was involved;
B) because it's asinine that something that trivial went that far in the courts; or
C) because it's asinine that the charge was thrown out.

This thread got way too serious.
 
2003-05-31 09:24:33 AM  
ZTigerX said,...You don't see the cops out there arresting all the women walking around in thong bikinis.

Thank God! The last thing this world needs is less women walking around in thong bikinis. Well, except for the really, um, obese ones, shall we say. But, I digress.
 
2003-05-31 09:37:11 AM  
"Did you see that guy's balls?"
"Yea, they were weeiiiiiiird."
 
2003-05-31 09:46:28 AM  
You can find more details about the case in the Boston Globe story
 
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