I Said: We have no way to fix a similar problem that deep in the ocean. Until one is devised it's prudent to cease any activities that could cause a similar problem.

Bingo. If another well like the Deepwater Horizon well burst tomorrow, what would our solution be? How would we manage that problem in an efficient and effective way? Until that question can be answered, it's time to put away the drills, boys.

As an aside, this is going to end up costing BP $20 to $50 billion in damages and cleanup alone - to say nothing of the lost revenues and plummeting stock prices. If inventing a solution is really more expensive than THAT? We shouldn't be doing it. Period.

I Said: WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

We have no way to fix a similar problem that deep in the ocean. Until one is devised it's prudent to cease any activities that could cause a similar problem.

Also: Does big oil really think lobbying together about this is going to look good?

This is what I came here to say. And after reading what WTFDYW said I want to call him an idiot.

I Said: WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

We have no way to fix a similar problem that deep in the ocean. Until one is devised it's prudent to cease any activities that could cause a similar problem.

Also: Does big oil really think lobbying together about this is going to look good?

Until they have an underground shutoff that works, every oil platform is a threat to national security. As it stands, a dozen submarines could turn our coasts into permanent cesspools, and there aint jack we could do about it.

The oil companies need to be spending that lobbying money on R&D to make their shiat safe, but they won't do that as long as Senator Cornhole will fix it for them.

"Just because we have no farking clue what to do if another catastrophic blowout happens on one of our rigs, doesn't mean we shouldn't keep drilling in deep water! There's no way a catastrophic blowout can happen! ...I mean, no way it could happen again."

This means more nuclear plant authorizations and funding, right Obama?

/Hopefully...haven't heard him talk on the issue since febuary

Not this sh*t again.

Cry moar.

A SIX-MONTH MORITORIUM WILL DESTROY US ALL!!!!

aden_nak: I Said: We have no way to fix a similar problem that deep in the ocean. Until one is devised it's prudent to cease any activities that could cause a similar problem.

Bingo. If another well like the Deepwater Horizon well burst tomorrow, what would our solution be? How would we manage that problem in an efficient and effective way? Until that question can be answered, it's time to put away the drills, boys.

As an aside, this is going to end up costing BP $20 to $50 billion in damages and cleanup alone - to say nothing of the lost revenues and plummeting stock prices. If inventing a solution is really more expensive than THAT? We shouldn't be doing it. Period.

I agree. I love how they say, Hey, we have no idea what to do about this - but we need oil so we should just keep drilling and hope it never happens again. Obama, stop picking on us.

Drill, baby, Drill.

If only there was a lot of gasoline in a rural tundra area where no one lived and there were few cute animals.

Deep water drilling should be banned until the oil companies can prove that they can stop a spill.

How does this not make sense?

vygramul: WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

You must be liberal, because Palin is against offshore drilling.

No she's only against deep water drilling. She'd rather they just tap right next to the beach. Or in ANWAR.

AmazingRuss
Until they have an underground shutoff that works, every oil platform is a threat to national security. As it stands, a dozen submarines could turn our coasts into permanent cesspools, and there aint jack we could do about it.

The oil companies need to be spending that lobbying money on R&D to make their shiat safe, but they won't do that as long as Senator Cornhole will fix it for them.

This. I don't get the people arguing otherwise. This shiat should be obvious and bipartisan. Maybe some people just like the idea of our ocean waters becoming oily cesspools of death.

To Big Oil: You have proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you cannot be trusted. Like a reckless driver who got people killed, you should lose your licenses until you can prove otherwise.

I still support deep drilling.

In bed.

Shtetl G: If only there was a lot of gasoline in a rural tundra area where no one lived and there were few cute animals.

Canada? Siberia? Saudi Arabia? Camels, moose, and bears are definitely not cute animals. OK, bears are cute when they are pups, but they turn into ferocious things that will rip your head off the first chance they get.

I Said: WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

We have no way to fix a similar problem that deep in the ocean. Until one is devised it's prudent to cease any activities that could cause a similar problem.

Also: Does big oil really think lobbying together about this is going to look good?

Require relief wells to be already in place.

Here we have a company who clearly violated safety protocols and cut corners. Things went bad. Isn't that the root cause of this. Granted it is compounded by the depth - but that is a separate issue.

If a company is following guidelines and drilling safely what is the big deal (yeah yeah I know - we'd need actual OVERSIGHT)?

On the other hand, if a company following current protocols experienced this event I would be more inclined to be on board with the "learn 2 fix first" argument.

Gut reaction says stop drilling - but looking at the evidence, it looks like just that - gut reaction.

cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

How about shutting down all commercial air traffic because two of them crashed into two buildings?

It was four into three buildings (and a field), but your point is made.

On the other hand, if, say, Delta airlines had a couple crashes and the preliminary investigations revealed a systemic disregard for safety regulations, it would not be unreasonable to simply ground all Delta aircraft until the investigation was completed.

In this case, rather than shut down all gulf exploration, just shut down all exploration by Transocean and any other rig that is contracted to BP.

FTFA:

LONDON - Oil executives sharply criticized President Barack Obama's six-month ban on deepwater drilling at a major industry conference Tuesday, saying the world did not have enough other sources of oil to eliminate using deepsea rigs.

Umm.. sand/shale oil.
North America reserves surpass liquid oil.
Once the price point becomes viable, North America gets rich.

Obama to Big Oil: "Excellent emoting guys, that was brilliant. Now, for the next scene I need you to really sell it when I stand firm. But just remember, act three starts as soon as the next celebrity scandal breaks and my approval ratings start to inch back up. That's when you guys make your triumphant return to drilling... but in the meantime you have to seem like you're taking my threats seriously or the public will never buy it. Aaaand action!"

WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

A better comparisons for this whole thing would be:

Temporarily grounding DC-10's with defective cargo hatches, and 737's for possible rudder problems over the objections of the airlines, until a fix can be worked out that safeguards the public.

cameroncrazy1984: WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

How about shutting down all commercial air traffic because two of them crashed into two buildings?

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It seems to me the burden of proof is on big oil. Prove that you can operate safely AND manage disaster successfully. Trying to shift attention to a third party (Obama) is pretty chicken-shiat and will only work on the idiot half of the population.

WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

They have grounded entire fleets of aircraft while looking for fatigue problems.

BHShaman: FTFA:

LONDON - Oil executives sharply criticized President Barack Obama's six-month ban on deepwater drilling at a major industry conference Tuesday, saying the world did not have enough other sources of oil to eliminate using deepsea rigs.

Umm.. sand/shale oil.
North America reserves surpass liquid oil.
Once the price point becomes viable, North America gets rich.

That's the thing. It's not viable at this point. It is very expensive to extract. If the price of oil skyrockets (likely) it will be viable and the oil companies will be all over it.

Satan's Cheese Cancer: Here we have a company who clearly violated safety protocols and cut corners. Things went bad. Isn't that the root cause of this. Granted it is compounded by the depth - but that is a separate issue.

If a company is following guidelines and drilling safely what is the big deal (yeah yeah I know - we'd need actual OVERSIGHT)?

On the other hand, if a company following current protocols experienced this event I would be more inclined to be on board with the "learn 2 fix first" argument.

Gut reaction says stop drilling - but looking at the evidence, it looks like just that - gut reaction.

Maybe his gut is right this time. Imagine the fall out if there was another preventable spill next week.

I'd rather skullfark the rotting corpse of a clubbed baby seal using petroleum as a lubricant than pay $5 a gallon for gasoline.

Obama and the spineless bastards in congress will do whatever they are told.

WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people


Those situations are not analogous, so stop performing analingus on big oil.

I Said: We have no way to fix a similar problem that deep in the ocean. Until one is devised it's prudent to cease any activities that could cause a similar problem.

We do have one, it's called a relief well, and that's pretty much the only way to fix this kind of blowout in any depth of water.

WTFDYW: It makes as much sense as shutting down all commercial air traffic because one commercial airliner crashed.

/farking stupid people

More accurately, it would be like shutting down all particle super colliders because one creates a black hole and destroys a small continent.