Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

/his career is over

Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

Wasn't this the guy the far right was recruiting to lead a coup to overthrow Obama?

Barakku: Bastards and their opinions. I HATE when people tell the truth, fortunately this case will remind people to lie more and keep quiet.

If you are a general or any other high ranking officer, you do not undermine the president. That sort of insubordination has a way of permeating throughout the ranks.

Not everybody likes their boss, god knows I don't, but criticizing them publicly is bad form and insures you won't last.

xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

I heard an explanation of this once and the long and short of it is that it's a proper journalistic standard. The first time the President is referred to in an article he is referred to as 'President Obama' and subsequent mentions are 'Mr. Obama'. There was similar squawking when Bush was president and that the MSM was being DISRESPECTFUL to the President by calling him Mr. Bush and not President Bush.

The Fourth Karamazov: xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

Many news organizations have a similar policy in which they use one's title the first time they refer to him or her, followed by using a title like Mr. The organizations do this consistently, it's not a sign of disrespect towards any one individual.

Those frog eating, limey redcoats are obviously still mad that we won't pick up the tab for Tony Hayward's yacht race.

Demetrius: xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

I heard an explanation of this once and the long and short of it is that it's a proper journalistic standard. The first time the President is referred to in an article he is referred to as 'President Obama' and subsequent mentions are 'Mr. Obama'. There was similar squawking when Bush was president and that the MSM was being DISRESPECTFUL to the President by calling him Mr. Bush and not President Bush.

Bush was never properly elected and Obama is not an American... so neither can be called "President".

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xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

Correction - he's YOUR president - not the world's.
Give your head a good yank out of that ass for less butthurt.

xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

He's only "Mr." on second reference.

BBC style would make your face explode. I hate it more than I hate f***** my own brother, and that's saying something.

oldfarthenry: xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

Correction - he's YOUR president - not the world's.
Give your head a good yank out of that ass for less butthurt.

That blue-haired old slapper isn't our queen, but we still call her that... for now

I propose we start calling her the C*ntess from C*ntland.

Cubansaltyballs: oldfarthenry: xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

Correction - he's YOUR president - not the world's.
Give your head a good yank out of that ass for less butthurt.

That blue-haired old slapper isn't our queen, but we still call her that... for now

I propose we start calling her the C*ntess from C*ntland.

True story:

In most of Europe, they have "counts," in England they have "Earls." This is because, when the Normans got there, they discovered that calling themselves "counts" was calling themselves a Certain Very Dirty Word That Meant the Same to the Anglo-Saxons That it Does to Us (yes, that one. Drop the o), and so immediately came up with a different title.

So all I'm saying is: she outranks a c*nt.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Cubansaltyballs: If you are a general or any other high ranking officer, you do not undermine the president.shiat, you don't undermine your boss in public PERIOD.

I had a boss that I made a sport of undermining at every chance I had. That run lasted almost 3 years before he found a reason to fire me.

/meh

februarymakeup: True story:

In most of Europe, they have "counts," in England they have "Earls." This is because, when the Normans got there, they discovered that calling themselves "counts" was calling themselves a Certain Very Dirty Word That Meant the Same to the Anglo-Saxons That it Does to Us (yes, that one. Drop the o), and so immediately came up with a different title.

So all I'm saying is: she outranks a c*nt.

Is that why a Montecristo sandwich looks a British broad's count, and why Montecristo cigars smell like one?

The comments seem pretty tame, and eh, it's Rolling Stone. If the White House approved the interview, they should have expected as much.

But considering his role in the Pat Tillman debacle, I wasn't happy with this guy getting the job in the first place, so I'm not going to be too upset with him getting axed.

Sgt Otter: But considering his role in the Pat Tillman debacle, I wasn't happy with this guy getting the job in the first place, so I'm not going to be too upset with him getting axed.

Was he involved in that whole coverup and whatnot?

The Fourth Karamazov: xanadian: Also, this little niggling thing always bothers me. It's PRESIDENT Obama, not MR Obama. I don't care if you're the BBC. How about I start calling your head of state Mrs. Windsor??

Many news organizations have a similar policy in which they use one's title the first time they refer to him or her, followed by using a title like Mr. The organizations do this consistently, it's not a sign of disrespect towards any one individual.

OK, see, I never knew this before.

TMYK. ----====*

If I punked out my boss in the media I wouldn't get called in for a talking-to, I'd show up for work the next day to find out my keycard no longer works and my shiat would be in a box on the front steps -- and I'm not in a military chain-of-command.

Hasn't this been an issue with Gen. McChrystal before? During a speech back in the fall? This "poor judgment" he's apologizing for sounds familiar.

Perhaps he wants to retire from the military and start a career in politics.

Cubansaltyballs: Sgt Otter: But considering his role in the Pat Tillman debacle, I wasn't happy with this guy getting the job in the first place, so I'm not going to be too upset with him getting axed.

Was he involved in that whole coverup and whatnot?

He was the highest ranking uniformed officer involved in the bullshiat propaganda campaign surrounding Tillman's death.

He was also the guy who wrote the final draft of Tillman's Silver Star citation, knowing full well he was killed by his own Ranger team.

Also, Tillman's personal diary, which according to his brother Kevin (who was also a Ranger serving in Afghanistan) contained harsh criticisms of the Iraq War (Tillman had been deployed to Iraq before his deployment to Afghanistan), Donald Rumsfeld, the overly Evangelical atmosphere in the Army, and the Bush administration, was supposedly sent to Gen. McChrystal's office, to ensure it didn't disclose any classified information before it was released to his family. It magically "disappeared" and hasn't been seen since.

This guy sounds like a stupid farking earl.

If he was a politician, I'd applaud him for being forthright...but since he reports to the Commander-in-Chief, that was probably not a good idea.

I just read an article in Time about this guy.. during a meeting with Afghan officials he started lecturing them that he was risking his life to fight for their freedom and they were doing nothing. I don't know how the Afghans were able to resist laughing in his face, or punching him.

Cubansaltyballs: Bush was never properly elected and Obama is not an American... so neither can be called "President".

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How about you just shut up.

The problem is that the war in Afghanistan is unwinnable.

We should leave.

Barakku: Bastards and their opinions. I HATE when people tell the truth

Go ask Douglas MacArthur how publicly undermining the CinC worked out for him.