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(Some Guy)   Cop stops woman having a stroke from entering emergency room. Husband carrying woman explains to officer what is going on. Officer nods head, arrests husband   (wrcbtv.com) divider line 561
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2010-06-19 03:01:07 PM
Fark you piece of shiat cop and fark the asshole judge that signed the warrant.
 
2010-06-19 03:02:26 PM
The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.
 
2010-06-19 03:07:48 PM
img1.fark.net tag detained after running red light.
 
2010-06-19 03:10:31 PM
Deduct the cost of her medical treatment from the cop's pay. Leave him with the equivalent of minimum wage to live on for the next few years. This should remind him what he's worth in the real world.
 
2010-06-19 03:16:25 PM
Lt. Kim Noorbergen says the officer was just "doing his job".

And that right there is why the officer in question should be removed from the police force and given a job more suited to his mental capacity - perhaps in park services, for example.
 
2010-06-19 03:25:05 PM
The Chattanooga Times Free press ran this story as the front page lead today. Should be interesting to see how this goes.
 
2010-06-19 03:30:47 PM
To Serve and Protect
 
2010-06-19 03:31:02 PM
cops arresting people for trying to get to the hospital trifecta now in play.
 
2010-06-19 03:32:27 PM
Oh, the embarrassment over this.

If it were me, I'd be all over the news with this, and lawyer'ed up, until the cop and the city beg for mercy.

I'm not one to be like that, but this guy has it coming. If he had assisted the family in trouble, he'd be a hero. But no, he wanted his traffic stop, and his authority respected. Good luck with that.
 
2010-06-19 03:39:32 PM
Earguy: Oh, the embarrassment over this.

If it were me, I'd be all over the news with this, and lawyer'ed up, until the cop and the city beg for mercy.

I'm not one to be like that, but this guy has it coming. If he had assisted the family in trouble, he'd be a hero. But no, he wanted his traffic stop, and his authority respected. Good luck with that.


And you know what? there are people on fark who will read this story and come to defend the cop's actions.
 
2010-06-19 03:41:48 PM
Elvis_Bogart: The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.


First of all fastest and best way to get someone to the hospital is in an ambulance they are stabilized enroute and the hospital is waiting to treat them when they arrive.

Secondly what gives this asshole the right to decide getting his wife to the hosital 1 to 4 minutes faster (average red light stop time) was worth endangering others.

I would give hima pass on the evading charge but still bang him on blowing the lights...
 
2010-06-19 03:48:39 PM
By the way my perspective comes from having to extracate three people from a mini-van (and each other) who were rushing a friend to the hospital and decide they could do the same thing.

They were creamed by a mother with a kid in a car seat broadsides.

The 'patient' in the minivan had no seat belt was a real mess when we got there one of the other guys took a lateral head injury was the kind of thing were there was a good chance he would never be right again.
 
2010-06-19 03:48:57 PM
Stryyder: Elvis_Bogart: The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.

First of all fastest and best way to get someone to the hospital is in an ambulance they are stabilized enroute and the hospital is waiting to treat them when they arrive.

Secondly what gives this asshole the right to decide getting his wife to the hosital 1 to 4 minutes faster (average red light stop time) was worth endangering others.

I would give hima pass on the evading charge but still bang him on blowing the lights...


When you only have minutes to live, help is only a half hour away.
 
2010-06-19 03:51:55 PM
Sorry, normally I can see the cops side to an argument, but not this time.

While I think Stryyder brings up a good point, the guy said he treated them like stop signs. So he didn't just blow through the intersections without looking.

Maybe give him a ticket at the end of the day, but get his wife into the ER first.
 
2010-06-19 03:52:00 PM
Lt. Kim Noorbergen says the officer was just "doing his job".

This, right here, is never an excuse for doing something so inexcusable. Obviously, none of these officers are intellectually capable of being public defenders if they think the letter of the law should supersede the spirit.
 
2010-06-19 03:54:30 PM
Misleading headline is misleading. He wasn't arrested at the door trying to carry his wife inside.

Guy did break the law. Cop should have used some discretion.

Hospital kicking the cop out did the right thing.
 
2010-06-19 03:55:46 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Stryyder: Elvis_Bogart: The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.

First of all fastest and best way to get someone to the hospital is in an ambulance they are stabilized enroute and the hospital is waiting to treat them when they arrive.

Secondly what gives this asshole the right to decide getting his wife to the hosital 1 to 4 minutes faster (average red light stop time) was worth endangering others.

I would give hima pass on the evading charge but still bang him on blowing the lights...

When you only have minutes to live, help is only a half hour away.


Again the loss in travel time is made up by the fact that in an ALS situation the patient can be stabilized and the hospital informed of the arrival and prepped for the patient. Basically if we are transporting a stroke victim when we get to the hospital they have an open CT machine waiting. When you get there you will have to be triaged and the resources found to get the CT going.

Also the ambulance workers know which local hospitals are stroke centers and which are not....maybe this nurse did also maybe not.
 
2010-06-19 03:58:12 PM
Stryyder: By the way my perspective comes from having to extracate three people from a mini-van (and each other) who were rushing a friend to the hospital and decide they could do the same thing.

They were creamed by a mother with a kid in a car seat broadsides.

The 'patient' in the minivan had no seat belt was a real mess when we got there one of the other guys took a lateral head injury was the kind of thing were there was a good chance he would never be right again.


And I deal with stroke patients all the time on my Neuro unit, and every farking second counts with a stroke- depending on the kind and severity. Every-got-damn-second. It's essentially a "brain attack", which is how our EMS/Neuro people are trying to bill it, since people don't take some of the neuro signs seriously enough like they would for a heart attack.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying about risking other people's lives while screaming through the city, it makes sense. But the cop shouldda had them follow him into the hospital, and then dealt with anything he felt necessary to afterwards.
 
2010-06-19 04:00:41 PM
Stryyder: jehovahs witness protection: Stryyder: Elvis_Bogart: The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.

First of all fastest and best way to get someone to the hospital is in an ambulance they are stabilized enroute and the hospital is waiting to treat them when they arrive.

Secondly what gives this asshole the right to decide getting his wife to the hosital 1 to 4 minutes faster (average red light stop time) was worth endangering others.

I would give hima pass on the evading charge but still bang him on blowing the lights...

When you only have minutes to live, help is only a half hour away.

Again the loss in travel time is made up by the fact that in an ALS situation the patient can be stabilized and the hospital informed of the arrival and prepped for the patient. Basically if we are transporting a stroke victim when we get to the hospital they have an open CT machine waiting. When you get there you will have to be triaged and the resources found to get the CT going.

Also the ambulance workers know which local hospitals are stroke centers and which are not....maybe this nurse did also maybe not.


But the husband was a nurse technician, so with his medical training he would have also been able to stabilize her en route. He also could have been on the phone with the hospital and let them know he was coming en route. And this isn't just a traffic ticket we're talking about here, the pigs had the nerve to charge the guy with felony evasion, after he learned of a warrant for his arrest and went to the police station and they chose not to arrest him there. His attorneys are going to have a field day in court.
 
2010-06-19 04:01:23 PM
Relatively Obscure: Misleading headline is misleading. He wasn't arrested at the door trying to carry his wife inside.

Guy did break the law. Cop should have used some discretion.

Hospital kicking the cop out did the right thing.


Indeed.

Next time call an ambulance.
 
2010-06-19 04:02:17 PM
Fark It: But the husband was a nurse technician, so with his medical training he would have also been able to stabilize her en route.

Uh.

To be fair.. isn't he a little busy driving and not having essential supplies?

Cop should have issued a written warning.
 
2010-06-19 04:02:20 PM
No harm, no foul.

Your wife is alive because you broke the law.

Pay your fine and get on with it.
 
2010-06-19 04:04:06 PM
Stryyder: jehovahs witness protection: Stryyder: Elvis_Bogart: The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.

First of all fastest and best way to get someone to the hospital is in an ambulance they are stabilized enroute and the hospital is waiting to treat them when they arrive.

Secondly what gives this asshole the right to decide getting his wife to the hosital 1 to 4 minutes faster (average red light stop time) was worth endangering others.

I would give hima pass on the evading charge but still bang him on blowing the lights...

When you only have minutes to live, help is only a half hour away.

Again the loss in travel time is made up by the fact that in an ALS situation the patient can be stabilized and the hospital informed of the arrival and prepped for the patient. Basically if we are transporting a stroke victim when we get to the hospital they have an open CT machine waiting. When you get there you will have to be triaged and the resources found to get the CT going.

Also the ambulance workers know which local hospitals are stroke centers and which are not....maybe this nurse did also maybe not.


I was bitten by a rattle snake in the late 80's. There were no cell phones to call for help. The hospital was 5 minutes away. My climbing partner blew his engine getting me to the emergency room, but we made it. If I waited for an ambulance, I would be dead. They had to deliberate me several times.
Sometimes driving yourself is the only way.
I do see your point, but there are exceptions.
 
2010-06-19 04:04:13 PM
JacksBlack: No harm, no foul.

Your wife is alive because you broke the law.

Pay your fine and get on with it.


Felony evasion was one of the seven infractions he was charged with, so I don't think it's as simple as paying a fine and getting on with it.
 
2010-06-19 04:04:43 PM
JacksBlack: No harm, no foul.

Your wife is alive because you broke the law.

Pay your fine and get on with it.


there's a fine for running a red, and there's felony evading arrest after you attempted to turn yourself and they told you to go home
 
2010-06-19 04:06:27 PM
Fark It: JacksBlack: No harm, no foul.

Your wife is alive because you broke the law.

Pay your fine and get on with it.

Felony evasion was one of the seven infractions he was charged with, so I don't think it's as simple as paying a fine and getting on with it.


A_bomb37: JacksBlack: No harm, no foul.

Your wife is alive because you broke the law.

Pay your fine and get on with it.

there's a fine for running a red, and there's felony evading arrest after you attempted to turn yourself and they told you to go home


Okay so I didn't read the whole thing.

Point is, he'll have his day in court and the system will likely be kind to him.

I'm not "defending" the cop, sounds like he was a class 1 asshole, to me. But legally, he's probably within his rights to do what he did.
 
2010-06-19 04:06:56 PM
The reason cops make so little of a salary is because they are mostly sub-par in the IQ department.

You can't expect people with IQs of 80-90 to make reasonable decisions as they are just pre-programmed lemmings. One or Zero .. Yes or No .. Black or White.

Detectives make more because they are the 1% of the police system where IQs start to be closer to 100. Occasionally they can make choices based on a subset of factors rather than just a one or a zero.
 
2010-06-19 04:11:42 PM
xynix: The reason cops make so little of a salary is because they are mostly sub-par in the IQ department.

I wonder if it's high enough to avoid making a statement as stupid as this.
 
2010-06-19 04:20:20 PM
jehovahs witness protection: They had to deliberate me several times.

That's no time for an argument, you've just been bitten by a snake!
 
2010-06-19 04:21:30 PM
JacksBlack: No harm, no foul.

Your wife is alive because you broke the law.

Pay your fine and get on with it.


pics.livejournal.com
 
2010-06-19 04:29:08 PM
JacksBlack:
I'm not "defending" the cop, sounds like he was a class 1 asshole, to me. But legally, he's probably within his rights to do what he did.


just because something in the legal system is technically possible does NOT mean you should go ahead and do it. there is a bit of leeway in most of these sorts of situations.

This cop wasn't an asshole, he probably really does honestly believe he was handling this the right way...and that's exactly why he has no business wearing a badge.
 
2010-06-19 04:42:52 PM
Weaver95: just because something in the legal system is technically possible does NOT mean you should go ahead and do it. there is a bit of leeway in most of these sorts of situations.

I've been arrested once ever in my life. Charges were dropped the next day, but I was still handcuffed in my own home. After being handcuffed, I told one of the cops "I REALLY gotta take a piss".

The RULES say I am handcuffed, too bad. This cop knew I was being arrested for bullshiat, so he looked at his partner, then took off my cuffs and let me take a piss before leaving.

This case is 10x that for a cop actually SERVING and PROTECTING the public, rather than pulling his dick measuring bullshiat.
 
2010-06-19 04:43:24 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Fark you piece of shiat cop and fark the asshole judge that signed the warrant.

Could not have said that better.
 
2010-06-19 05:56:49 PM
That's the most farked up story I've read this month.
 
2010-06-19 06:02:13 PM
i216.photobucket.com
 
2010-06-19 06:33:32 PM
Cake Hunter: jehovahs witness protection: They had to deliberate me several times.

That's no time for an argument, you've just been bitten by a snake!


That. Was awesome.
 
2010-06-19 06:35:41 PM
I hope a good attorney takes this case pro bono just to slap the police department and the prosecutors office around for being complete and total dumbasses.

When it is a life or death situation, your first priority is getting help. Being this guy was trying to carry his wife into the emergency room should have given the cop some clue that she could need medical attention. Even prisoners get access to medical care, which is this cop was preventing. If the prosecutor's office had any brains, they'd drop all charges and beg this guy to settle.
 
2010-06-19 06:47:09 PM
Elvis_Bogart: The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.


tell me again why isnt it legal to shoot stupid cops?
/oh I KNOW .... it is ONLY one bad cop making the other cops look bad
/waiting for that one good cop to stand up be identified
 
2010-06-19 06:47:29 PM
Weaver95: Lt. Kim Noorbergen says the officer was just "doing his job".

And that right there is why the officer in question should be removed from the police force and given a job more suited to his mental capacity - perhaps in park services, for example.


Yeah, good idea Dr. Mafesto. Just what we need... a park full of half four-assed pigs/half four-assed monkeys running around throwing their authoritae around because they lost a dick-measuring contest with a squirrel.
 
2010-06-19 07:00:04 PM
namatad: tell me again why isnt it legal to shoot stupid cops?
/oh I KNOW .... it is ONLY one bad cop making the other cops look bad
/waiting for that one good cop to stand up be identified


You could start a whole new religion based on that premise... one day, somewhere, a good cop is going to exist and he will return to bring light to every other cop in the world, and he will be sacrificed in order to cleanse cops everywhere of their sins.
 
2010-06-19 07:06:37 PM
Shabash: tag detained after running red light.

Weaver95: Lt. Kim Noorbergen says the officer was just "doing his job".

And that right there is why the officer in question should be removed from the police force and given a job more suited to his mental capacity - perhaps in park services, for example.


Elder care. He should spend the rest of his life emptying bedpans and putting ointment on prolapsed bowels.
 
2010-06-19 07:11:59 PM
Bathia_Mapes: Relatively Obscure: Misleading headline is misleading. He wasn't arrested at the door trying to carry his wife inside.

Guy did break the law. Cop should have used some discretion.

Hospital kicking the cop out did the right thing.

Indeed.

Next time call an ambulance.


I won't.

I can SEE the Fire Department/EMS station from where I am sitting. It is less than 100 yards from here.

BUT
It's in another township (Across the street from me is Batavia Township, I live in Pierce Township)

The Hospital is closer to me than the Pierce Township EMS dispatch center.

By the time the ambulance gets here, I could have someone in the damned ER, even if I went the speed limit!

Politics and prices be damned, when a life is on the line, I'm taking matters into my own hands, and pretty much everyone who lives on this side of the street agrees, and generally does the same in an emergency.

/911 is a joke.
 
2010-06-19 07:38:40 PM
BTW both the wife and husband have medical backgrounds. So not like they didn't know what they were up to.
 
2010-06-19 07:46:01 PM
Cubansaltyballs: namatad: tell me again why isnt it legal to shoot stupid cops?
/oh I KNOW .... it is ONLY one bad cop making the other cops look bad
/waiting for that one good cop to stand up be identified

You could start a whole new religion based on that premise... one day, somewhere, a good cop is going to exist and he will return to bring light to every other cop in the world, and he will be sacrificed in order to cleanse cops everywhere of their sins.


first step would be to remove internal affairs from under police departments control: move the money and people to the public defenders office and give them subpoena powers

/when was the last time a cop was charged with perjury?
/probably has never happened in chicago
/sigh
 
2010-06-19 07:47:37 PM
namatad: Elvis_Bogart: The cop had the discretion to let this go once he knew the facts.

The cop is being a dick.

So is the city if they don't drop this.

Lame.

tell me again why isnt it legal to shoot stupid cops?
/oh I KNOW .... it is ONLY one bad cop making the other cops look bad
/waiting for that one good cop to stand up be identified


Good cops? Define "good."

It has been my experience that just about all cops are bad in some way.. either arrogant or dismissive or bullying to name a few of their problems.

I'm sure there are SOME out there. Very few and far between as the vast majority of them are clueless cowards with a gun strapped to their hip and a serious inferiority complex.

rlv.zcache.com
 
2010-06-19 07:57:54 PM
String him up! He's a menace to society!

Also, those charges against the husband should be dropped.
 
2010-06-19 08:06:49 PM
My mother had a stroke at the same time every EMS unit within 50 miles of her was working an Amtrak derailment in rural Mississippi. My step-father had to drive her to the nearest neuro wing, normally a trip of just under an hour. Dad, with my unconscious mother and my hysterical aunt, made the trip in 25 minutes flat in his Mercedes E350 while on the phone with MHSP dispatch. "Tell every trooper you've got I'm heading north on I-55 towards St. Dominic in Jackson", he told them.

Later he would confide that he had always wondered what it would be like to drive that car at autobahn velocities. After doing it, he said it drives even better at 130 than it does at 70.

And for the record, mom pulled through like a champ from a pretty significant brain event.
 
2010-06-19 08:07:34 PM
Stryyder: First of all fastest and best way to get someone to the hospital is in an ambulance they are stabilized enroute and the hospital is waiting to treat them when they arrive.

Funny thing, I was just talking to my husband about this and said "I'd have died when I was 4.5 if my father hadn't driven like a maniac to get my to the hospital, there was no time to wait for the ambulance, and the hospital even said it then."

Doctors today marvel that I am alive as virtually no child who had epiglottitis in the late 1970s lived to tell the tale of it. I actually was clinically dead for a few minutes, even with all of that.

So actually, that's not always true. Especially if the person driving actually works with emergencies (as this husband probably does, being a nurse technician.)
/Helps that my dad was a cop himself.
//cool story, chick.
 
2010-06-19 08:52:24 PM
Epiglottitis would be a cool name for a band.

//cool story, chick.
 
2010-06-19 09:05:42 PM
shanrick: Epiglottitis would be a cool name for a band.

I think it would be too hard to pronounce.
 
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