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(NYPost)   Rahm Emanuel:"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste - and what I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things that you could not do before." Crisis? Oil spill. Opportunity? Charge $7.00/gal. for gas. Rahmin' it   (nypost.com) divider line 287
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2010-06-18 09:20:02 AM
Call me Retard McSpackypants, but I can't see where Obama (as suggested by TFA) says we should tax gas up to $7 a gallon. A thinktank, sure, but not the President. Methinks this is another report live from Tebagger Central.

/fail
 
2010-06-18 09:23:07 AM
BrynnMacFlynn: Call me Retard McSpackypants, but I can't see where Obama (as suggested by TFA) says we should tax gas up to $7 a gallon. A thinktank, sure, but not the President. Methinks this is another report live from Tebagger Central.

/fail


It's the NY Post.

There's really nothing else to say but that.
 
2010-06-18 09:29:28 AM
You want me to drive an electric car? Make gasoline $7.00/gallon and electric cars affordable.
 
2010-06-18 09:30:59 AM
fuzzwell: You want me to drive an electric car? Make gasoline $7.00/gallon and electric cars affordable.

A lot of people have been saying that and it's true: We will never get off oil as long as it's so cheap in the States.
 
2010-06-18 09:31:02 AM
Fark the Post.

While I do think we should add a significant tax to gas that is devoted entirely to new infrastructure (energy and otherwise), $7 is out of control.
 
2010-06-18 10:09:21 AM
BrynnMacFlynn: Tebagger Central.

Close, but not quite:

Ben Lieberman is senior anal yst of energy and environmental policy in The Heritage Founda tion's Roe Institute.
 
2010-06-18 11:40:12 AM
Uh, subby, where exactly do you see that TEH OBAMAMAAA is going to raise gas prices? Seriously?

Have you taken your meds today?
 
2010-06-18 11:50:43 AM
TwistedIvory: Uh, subby, where exactly do you see that TEH OBAMAMAAA is going to raise gas prices? Seriously?

Have you taken your meds today?


I don't know where subby got it, but I got it FTFA's first two paragraphs:

President Obama has a solution to the Gulf oil spill: $7-a-gallon gas.

That's a Harvard University study's estimate of the per-gallon price of the president's global-warming agenda. And Obama made clear this week that this agenda is a part of his plan for addressing the Gulf mess.
 
2010-06-18 11:54:05 AM
IrateShadow: The Heritage Founda tion's Roe Institute.

Some selections of "research" from the Heritage Foundation:
- 50 Examples of Government Waste
- Enough is Enough! Speak out Against Tax Increases
- American Power Act: Oil Spill Does Not Justify Wrecking the Economy

... sure smells like teabagger to me.
 
2010-06-18 11:56:02 AM
superdolfan1: I don't know where subby got it, but I got it FTFA's first two paragraphs:

President Obama has a solution to the Gulf oil spill: $7-a-gallon gas.

That's a Harvard University study's estimate of the per-gallon price of the president's global-warming agenda. And Obama made clear this week that this agenda is a part of his plan for addressing the Gulf mess.


Doesn't mean he's actually planning on implementing taxes that would throw it that high. Might only go to $5, but the fact remains that this is just bad, inflammatory reporting and representation.

/like 90% of FARK
//heyo!
 
2010-06-18 12:00:39 PM
So is there an in-joke I'm missing about the misspelling of Rahm Emanuel's name or is subby just an idiot?
 
2010-06-18 12:01:24 PM
Greened of course.
 
2010-06-18 12:05:36 PM
Yeah, because the higher than fark gas prices a few years ago were sooooooo good for the economy.
 
2010-06-18 12:07:49 PM
AdolfOliverPanties: So is there an in-joke I'm missing about the misspelling of Rahm Emanuel's name or is subby just an idiot?

no, an idiot for sure.farking twice in the headline

as said earlier: derpmitter needs to go back on their meds
 
2010-06-18 12:08:21 PM
BrynnMacFlynn: superdolfan1: I don't know where subby got it, but I got it FTFA's first two paragraphs:

President Obama has a solution to the Gulf oil spill: $7-a-gallon gas.

That's a Harvard University study's estimate of the per-gallon price of the president's global-warming agenda. And Obama made clear this week that this agenda is a part of his plan for addressing the Gulf mess.

Doesn't mean he's actually planning on implementing taxes that would throw it that high. Might only go to $5, but the fact remains that this is just bad, inflammatory reporting and representation.

/like 90% of FARK
//heyo!


Whew, just a 100% incrase instead of a 200% increase...well that shouldn't affect the recovery of the economy that much...
 
2010-06-18 12:25:02 PM
facts? we don't need no
stinkin' facts to argue with
(that pops like popcorn)
 
2010-06-18 12:31:42 PM
coinspinner: Fark the Post.

While I do think we should add a significant tax to gas that is devoted entirely to new infrastructure (energy and otherwise), $7 is out of control.


That type of pricing would bring the country to a grinding halt. More than doubling my gas expenses would make going to work a burden; and forget me actually spending money at stores that were any distance from my house (such as in NYC or New Haven or Danbury) because it would add too much to the cost of everything. Especially when the prices went up at every store to compensate for shipping.

I tell you, though, we are absolutely looking into solar panels for the roof our our house since it needs to be re-done, anyway. (Now can the morons managing this please close on it? It's already a week past my closing date and I am going to go vomit on someone's desk.
 
2010-06-18 01:12:10 PM
This is why we can't have nice things. We must innovate or die. At this point, looks like we'll die.
 
2010-06-18 01:43:42 PM
NewportBarGuy: This is why we can't have nice things. We must innovate or die. At this point, looks like we'll die.

Innovation is nice, and necessary, but we could begin the process by fixing things we can control, like oh, I don't know...maybe forcing the moms that chauffeur around two children in a Chevy Suburban that gets maybe 8 mpg to switch to a Honda Civic? Why do we need so many farking SUVs in this country? Is there a weekly off-road activity that I have not been made aware of? We tend to have an all-or-nothing mentality in that we say "If I can't have a hydrogen car by next week, I'll just keep driving this gas guzzler right here".

Innovate all you want. Make things better. In the meanwhile, buy a car that gets over 30mpg. You'd be amazed at the impact that would make.
 
2010-06-18 01:48:50 PM
You don't need to tax gas, just quit subsidizing the hell out of it.

Make it revenue neutral, say with a concomitant cut - say in payroll taxes. Tax less of what you want more of (income), and more of what you want less of (carbon). Wanna lower your tax burden? Reduce your energy use. This is exactly the way the incentives should work.

Higher fuel costs should mean higher costs for imported goods, non-local food, a commuter lifestyle, and non-critical travel. That would yield benefits in lowering infrastructure costs (fewer roads to build and maintain), improve local economies (drive local food production, encourage minimal commuting or telecommuting), improve public health (more exercise and more fresh, locally produced food sans preservatives and packaging) and bolster the economy (alternative technology jobs, imported goods become more expensive to ship, therefore pushing up local manufacturing).

Will it be disruptive in the short term? Sure. Will there be uncertainty? Undoubtedly. But continuing on the present path is madness from an environmental, economic, and a security perspective. There are good reasons for everyone to climb aboard this train, in a manner of speaking. It just requires the political cojones to make it happen.
 
2010-06-18 02:23:27 PM
IrateShadow: BrynnMacFlynn: Tebagger Central.

Close, but not quite:

Ben Lieberman is senior anal yst of energy and environmental policy in The Heritage Founda tion's Roe Institute.


Ah, the Heritage Foundation. The same outfit that Dan Barton (R-eally lubed) belongs to. That has BP as one of its largest contributors.

In DC I think that's called the "circle of life."
 
2010-06-18 03:14:00 PM
NY POST

:P
 
2010-06-18 03:16:02 PM
Did anyone mention that this is a NY Post article yet?


Farker Tea Party Trolls are in full force today.
 
2010-06-18 03:16:22 PM
It's true, make the status quo suck bad enough and it will change.

Doesn't make running on a platform of "let's make it suck" a good idea.
 
2010-06-18 03:16:37 PM
Haven't heard anything like this except from the right wing blogosphere.
 
2010-06-18 03:17:33 PM
BrynnMacFlynn: IrateShadow: The Heritage Founda tion's Roe Institute.
... sure smells like teabagger to me.


Smell?

http://tinyurl.com/2g5a955
 
2010-06-18 03:17:49 PM
fuzzwell: You want me to drive an electric car? Make gasoline $7.00/gallon and electric cars affordable.

No, make them have a 300+ mile range on a 5 or 10 minute recharge. Then we'll talk.
 
2010-06-18 03:18:12 PM
If he was really serious, he'd make it $100/gallon. Reality, or a right-wingers' fever dream?
 
2010-06-18 03:18:26 PM
Did you know the Chinese use the same word for 'crisis' as they do for 'opportunity'? Yes, Crisitunity!
 
2010-06-18 03:18:35 PM
7 dollar a gallon gas will only hurt the poorest among us.


/NTTAWWT
 
2010-06-18 03:18:43 PM
Rahm is a sneaky little SOB. It's too bad he's a Democrat. He'd make a great republican.
 
2010-06-18 03:18:46 PM
fuzzwell: You want me to drive an electric car? Make gasoline $7.00/gallon and electric cars affordable.

Gasoline, even at $3, is globally cheap and doesn't capture the external costs incurred by gasoline usage. Car makers actually got serious about alternative fuel cars when gas prices skyrocketed. If you want real progress on reducing environmental costs of gasoline, reflect those costs in the price of gas.

If gas ever got to $7/gallon in the next decade, you bet we'd have the car companies racing to engineer a convenient, affordable electric.
 
2010-06-18 03:19:11 PM
Oh hai!

blogs.metropulse.com
keetsa.com
 
2010-06-18 03:19:57 PM
This administration wont stop until all of us are living in Obamavills and under the thumb of the government will they?
 
2010-06-18 03:20:20 PM
Did Dick Cheney ghostwrite this article from his undisclosed location?
 
2010-06-18 03:21:07 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I have a pretty good feeling that this Heritage Foundation Analyst writing an opinion piece in the New York Post is accurately summarizing the President's Plan.
 
2010-06-18 03:21:11 PM
superdolfan1: In the meanwhile, buy a car that gets over 30mpg.

The very unique combination of my career and hobbies dictate that I need to drive a vehicle capable of hauling 6 tons at a moment's notice, therefore I can unequivocally state that high MPG cars are useless to me, and by extension, useless to everyone.

/Hurr
//Durr
///Derp derp derp
 
2010-06-18 03:21:24 PM
I Said: fuzzwell: You want me to drive an electric car? Make gasoline $7.00/gallon and electric cars affordable.

A lot of people have been saying that and it's true: We will never get off oil as long as it's so cheap in the States.


Pie-in-the-sky defeated by supply and demand. News at 11.

Of course Obama just artificially cut supply, let's see what happens!
 
2010-06-18 03:21:33 PM
serpent_sky: coinspinner: Fark the Post.

While I do think we should add a significant tax to gas that is devoted entirely to new infrastructure (energy and otherwise), $7 is out of control.

That type of pricing would bring the country to a grinding halt. More than doubling my gas expenses would make going to work a burden; and forget me actually spending money at stores that were any distance from my house (such as in NYC or New Haven or Danbury) because it would add too much to the cost of everything. Especially when the prices went up at every store to compensate for shipping.

I tell you, though, we are absolutely looking into solar panels for the roof our our house since it needs to be re-done, anyway. (Now can the morons managing this please close on it? It's already a week past my closing date and I am going to go vomit on someone's desk.


Why on earth would you drive to NYC? Metro North, f.f.s.

You live in one of the most transit-friendly areas in the country. Take advantage.
 
2010-06-18 03:21:43 PM
unyon: You don't need to tax gas, just quit subsidizing the hell out of it.




You should have just ended here. Everything after this was just a justification to subsidize, through protectionism, the choices you prefer.

If the true costs of oil are high enough without subsidization, then individuals will begin to substitute for it. If they don't, then they have made their decisions regarding how much they value one commodity over another.
 
2010-06-18 03:21:48 PM
Considering the U.S. has some of the cheapest car fuel in the world, except for oil exporting countries, it could stand to pay a fair bit more for gas. The rest of the world pays two or three times the U.S. charges. That's because the U.S. government is in bed with the oil industry.
 
2010-06-18 03:22:16 PM
BrynnMacFlynn: Call me Retard McSpackypants, but I can't see where Obama (as suggested by TFA) says we should tax gas up to $7 a gallon. A thinktank, sure, but not the President. Methinks this is another report live from Tebagger Central.

/fail


Reading. It's fundamental.

/try it someday
 
2010-06-18 03:22:52 PM
www.whnpa.org

karmahd.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-06-18 03:23:22 PM
BrynnMacFlynn: Call me Retard McSpackypants, but I can't see where Obama (as suggested by TFA) says we should tax gas up to $7 a gallon. A thinktank, sure, but not the President. Methinks this is another report live from Tebagger Central.

/fail



Yeah, just like the SC Democratic Senate candidate was a Tea Party dirty trick.

Ha! Ha! Ha!

Enjoy the party whl you can. The adults will be taking over in November.
 
2010-06-18 03:23:28 PM
Free_Chilly_Willy: This administration wont stop until all of us are living in Obamavills and under the thumb of the government will they?

What in the name of John Q. F*ck does that mean?
 
2010-06-18 03:23:33 PM
Obama already is on his way to doing this. Shutting down hundreds of perfectly good oil rigs is a good start. He will make it even harder to drill for our own anywhere. He will try the cap and tax which will make all energy more expensive. His scare tactics and demonizing of oil is already driving companies like BP down. You clowns really think this is not all a well devised plan by the "progressives"?

Sheep. You are sheep who actively want the US to fail.
 
2010-06-18 03:23:52 PM
Yaaars Revenge: I Said: fuzzwell: You want me to drive an electric car? Make gasoline $7.00/gallon and electric cars affordable.

A lot of people have been saying that and it's true: We will never get off oil as long as it's so cheap in the States.

Pie-in-the-sky defeated by supply and demand. News at 11.

Of course Obama just artificially cut supply, let's see what happens!


Meh we can never 100% get off of oil. We need it for most consumer products. Plastics, pharamceuticals, etc. Hell even ethanol production requires oil for fertilizer, bio mass reduction, and currently shipping. If we go corn ethanol it actually uses more oil to produce ethanol than the oil it offsets.
 
2010-06-18 03:24:05 PM
Ikahoshi: Considering the U.S. has some of the cheapest car fuel in the world, except for oil exporting countries, it could stand to pay a fair bit more for gas. The rest of the world pays two or three times the U.S. charges. That's because the U.S. government is in bed with the oil industry.fark the rest of the world.

Love,

US
 
2010-06-18 03:24:16 PM
Brilliant, since the cost per barrel has tended to go down since the oil spill, from what I've seen.
 
2010-06-18 03:24:16 PM
superdolfan1: Whew, just a 100% incrase instead of a 200% increase...well that shouldn't affect the recovery of the economy that much...

Wouldn't bother me any and might get the poor and / or Teahaddists off my roads.

/snicker
//then again, I really wouldn't care until it hits $10/gal
///you can't afford the fuel, insurance, et al.? Get off the road
 
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