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2010-06-18 01:48:19 PM
republiquedesign.files.wordpress.com

Not impressed
 
2010-06-18 02:34:03 PM
In far more important news, those are some rather large cherries on Katy Perry:

Link (new window)
 
2010-06-18 02:37:10 PM
Who?

He's dead. So what?
 
2010-06-18 02:38:31 PM
"Pleasure is not happiness"

Boxer and noted Stoic philosopher Muhammad Ali

Another self indulgent "artist" dies from excess. Color me surprised.
 
2010-06-18 02:39:02 PM
Done in one.
 
2010-06-18 02:41:06 PM
In 2008 Horsley was denied entry to the U.S. on the grounds of 'moral turpitude'.

Really? Wow USA that's magnificently weird, bravo! Don't you dare call us Brits old fashioned though.
 
2010-06-18 02:42:59 PM
deciusmaximus: "Pleasure is not happiness"

Boxer and noted Stoic philosopher Muhammad Ali

Another self indulgent "artist" dies from excess. Color me surprised.


He seemed pretty happy with it, though. So...sucks to be your boring life, eh?
 
2010-06-18 02:44:56 PM
Never heard of him.
 
2010-06-18 02:45:27 PM
Dad?
/DNRTFA
 
2010-06-18 02:47:29 PM
'invest'

That word, I don't think it means what you think it means...
 
2010-06-18 02:53:16 PM
90% + the rest+ the remainder = 110%?
 
2010-06-18 02:55:45 PM
Heroin addled and self-crucified is no way to go through life, son.

/got nuthin'
 
2010-06-18 02:55:50 PM
Those Brits just can't quit those velvet suits.
 
2010-06-18 02:57:14 PM
LowbrowDeluxe

deciusmaximus: "Pleasure is not happiness"

Boxer and noted Stoic philosopher Muhammad Ali

Another self indulgent "artist" dies from excess. Color me surprised.

He seemed pretty happy with it, though. So...sucks to be your boring life, eh?


Yeah, man you got me. It sucks having a beautiful wife, loving family, a teaching position, friends, status in the community and living life in moderation. I'm sure I would be better off as a whore mongering junkie who dresses in velvet Edwardian clothing, making shiatty "art" and dead before 40.
 
2010-06-18 03:01:48 PM
LowbrowDeluxe:
He seemed pretty happy with it, though. So...sucks to be your boring life, eh?



Really?

FTA:
In one of his final interviews last month, he said: 'It's just a joke, life - it's a whole joke.
'And given that life is absurd, given that it's pointless, given that it's meaningless; to mirror it with an absurdist dance is in many ways taking up a real position. Dandyism is a ghost dance in the face of defeat.'


Doesn't sound particularly happy to me.
 
2010-06-18 03:03:58 PM
content.internetvideoarchive.com

R.I.P
 
2010-06-18 03:06:46 PM
Another story about Charlie Sheen?
 
2010-06-18 03:07:02 PM
Devil's Playground
FTA:
In one of his final interviews last month, he said: 'It's just a joke, life - it's a whole joke.
'And given that life is absurd, given that it's pointless, given that it's meaningless; to mirror it with an absurdist dance is in many ways taking up a real position. Dandyism is a ghost dance in the face of defeat.'

So he was an Existentialist?

Existentialism the "emo kid" of philosophies.
 
2010-06-18 03:07:04 PM
deciusmaximus: LowbrowDeluxe

deciusmaximus: "Pleasure is not happiness"

Boxer and noted Stoic philosopher Muhammad Ali

Another self indulgent "artist" dies from excess. Color me surprised.

He seemed pretty happy with it, though. So...sucks to be your boring life, eh?

Yeah, man you got me. It sucks having a beautiful wife, loving family, a teaching position, friends, status in the community and living life in moderation. I'm sure I would be better off as a whore mongering junkie who dresses in velvet Edwardian clothing, making shiatty "art" and dead before 40.


Life takes all kinds. He did his thing, you do yours. You consider his life excessive, he considers yours boring. Did he mug you or something?

BTW, your defensive response makes you sound very, very unhappy.
 
2010-06-18 03:13:44 PM
Captain Phil?
 
2010-06-18 03:18:14 PM
deciusmaximus: Devil's Playground
FTA:
In one of his final interviews last month, he said: 'It's just a joke, life - it's a whole joke.
'And given that life is absurd, given that it's pointless, given that it's meaningless; to mirror it with an absurdist dance is in many ways taking up a real position. Dandyism is a ghost dance in the face of defeat.'

So he was an Existentialist?

Existentialism the "emo kid" of philosophies.


Sounds like more of an absurdist, really, a la Camus. Offshoot of existentialism, not quite as whiney. I consider myself one, but I'm nowhere near as crazy Or self destructive as this fruitcake - not anymore, at least. Dandys annoy me.
 
2010-06-18 03:21:24 PM
"I spent most of my money on women and booze and like a fool I squandered the rest." --Benny Hill
 
2010-06-18 03:21:32 PM
thurstonxhowell


deciusmaximus: "Pleasure is not happiness"

Boxer and noted Stoic philosopher Muhammad Ali

Another self indulgent "artist" dies from excess. Color me surprised.

He seemed pretty happy with it, though. So...sucks to be your boring life, eh?


Yeah, man you got me. It sucks having a beautiful wife, loving family, a teaching position, friends, status in the community and living life in moderation. I'm sure I would be better off as a whore mongering junkie who dresses in velvet Edwardian clothing, making shiatty "art" and dead before 40.

Life takes all kinds. He did his thing, you do yours. You consider his life excessive, he considers yours boring. Did he mug you or something?

BTW, your defensive response makes you sound very, very unhappy.


I have a low tolerance for self indulgent "artist" types who think that because they claim to be artists that they are entitled to a life of excess. It takes more than a velvet suit and an attention whoring publicity stunt to make an artist.

History will look back upon the "art" of the late to mid 20th and early 21st with scorn. This is not to say that there hasn't been some decent art created in this period, there has. However, the art world has been overwhelmed by no talent hacks whose primary skill is convincing New York society women, artsy college girls and clueless museum directors that their crucifixes suspended in urine and their "found art" toilet seats covered in rhinestones are in fact "art".

Giotto, Michelangelo, Titian, Renoir and Rodin were artists.
 
2010-06-18 03:32:14 PM
deciusmaximus: I have a low tolerance for self indulgent "artist" types who think that because they claim to be artists that they are entitled to a life of excess. It takes more than a velvet suit and an attention whoring publicity stunt to make an artist.

History will look back upon the "art" of the late to mid 20th and early 21st with scorn. This is not to say that there hasn't been some decent art created in this period, there has. However, the art world has been overwhelmed by no talent hacks whose primary skill is convincing New York society women, artsy college girls and clueless museum directors that their crucifixes suspended in urine and their "found art" toilet seats covered in rhinestones are in fact "art".

Giotto, Michelangelo, Titian, Renoir and Rodin were artists.


Art is not inherently rational, and so it's clearly not your strong suit
 
2010-06-18 03:35:38 PM
Marquis de Sod

deciusmaximus
: I have a low tolerance for self indulgent "artist" types who think that because they claim to be artists that they are entitled to a life of excess. It takes more than a velvet suit and an attention whoring publicity stunt to make an artist.

History will look back upon the "art" of the late to mid 20th and early 21st with scorn. This is not to say that there hasn't been some decent art created in this period, there has. However, the art world has been overwhelmed by no talent hacks whose primary skill is convincing New York society women, artsy college girls and clueless museum directors that their crucifixes suspended in urine and their "found art" toilet seats covered in rhinestones are in fact "art".

Giotto, Michelangelo, Titian, Renoir and Rodin were artists.

Art is not inherently rational, and so it's clearly not your
strong suit


Are you laboring under the misapprehension that what you typed actually made sense?
 
2010-06-18 03:45:33 PM
I found an interview (new window) with this guy from a couple of years ago and found this little exchange interesting:


3:AM: Aren't you just another sohoboho from Mayfair that ran out of money like Nancy Cunard?

SH: Yes. I am a useless dandy. I am almost bankrupt. I will either commit suicide or die at the age of 50 because I will have said all there is to say... will you marry me?
 
2010-06-18 03:50:46 PM
Dandy
 
2010-06-18 03:50:54 PM
deciusmaximus: Marquis de Sod

deciusmaximus: I have a low tolerance for self indulgent "artist" types who think that because they claim to be artists that they are entitled to a life of excess. It takes more than a velvet suit and an attention whoring publicity stunt to make an artist.

History will look back upon the "art" of the late to mid 20th and early 21st with scorn. This is not to say that there hasn't been some decent art created in this period, there has. However, the art world has been overwhelmed by no talent hacks whose primary skill is convincing New York society women, artsy college girls and clueless museum directors that their crucifixes suspended in urine and their "found art" toilet seats covered in rhinestones are in fact "art".

Giotto, Michelangelo, Titian, Renoir and Rodin were artists.

Art is not inherently rational, and so it's clearly not your
strong suit

Are you laboring under the misapprehension that what you typed actually made sense?


I'm not quite certain what he's going for myself, but I have a question for you, sir: is it lonely up there? In your tower, I mean.

Seriously, though, he might be talking about what Neitzsche would call the Apolonian/Dyonesian art dichotomy. You apparently fall into the former camp, in that it seems you like your art to be rational, ordered, and self-controlled. Modern art, however, seems to be swinging the other way, with chaotic, intoxicating and decidedly non-rational forms preferred and reactions desired.
 
2010-06-18 03:52:42 PM
Erm, Apollonian/Dionysian. All that book learnin' and I can't spell worth shiat.
 
2010-06-18 03:53:47 PM
Asleep At The Wheel - "Gone But Not Forgotten"

"I spent half of it on whiskey.
The other half on women.
The other half, well I just threw away."
 
2010-06-18 04:00:53 PM
Does anyone out there have any examples of this man's art? I have done a couple of GIS and mostly only found pictures of him in a top hat.

Is he the guy that Dire Straits sung about in "The Gallery"? I seriously can not find any of his art, and I am truly curious to see what he did.
 
2010-06-18 04:35:55 PM
Baldanders

I'm not quite certain what he's going for myself, but I have a question for you, sir: is it lonely up there? In your tower, I mean.

Seriously, though, he might be talking about what Neitzsche would call the Apolonian/Dyonesian art dichotomy. You apparently fall into the former camp, in that it seems you like your art to be rational, ordered, and self-controlled. Modern art, however, seems to be swinging the other way, with chaotic, intoxicating and decidedly non-rational forms preferred and reactions desired.


Insightful comment although you may be giving him more credit than he deserves. Art can be "Dionysian" in the sense that it celebrates the primal aspect of the human condition in its subject matter and even chaotic its form; however, it can also be artistic in its conception and show some technical skill in its execution.

Examples:

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2010-06-18 04:51:25 PM
Hey, at least he's not bullshiatting you.
 
2010-06-18 05:06:32 PM
"Ahhh, the hooker heavy portfolio pays off for the horny investor."

cleverocity.com
 
2010-06-18 05:30:38 PM
Posers like this douchebag wouldn't know real art if it walked up to them and rubbed it's balls across their face - well maybe then, but otherwise, no.
 
2010-06-18 05:35:14 PM
Devil's Playground: LowbrowDeluxe:
He seemed pretty happy with it, though. So...sucks to be your boring life, eh?


Really?

FTA:
In one of his final interviews last month, he said: 'It's just a joke, life - it's a whole joke.
'And given that life is absurd, given that it's pointless, given that it's meaningless; to mirror it with an absurdist dance is in many ways taking up a real position. Dandyism is a ghost dance in the face of defeat.'


Doesn't sound particularly happy to me.



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we hear ya buddy!
 
2010-06-18 07:03:11 PM
deciusmaximus: LowbrowDeluxe

deciusmaximus: "Pleasure is not happiness"

Boxer and noted Stoic philosopher Muhammad Ali

Another self indulgent "artist" dies from excess. Color me surprised.

He seemed pretty happy with it, though. So...sucks to be your boring life, eh?

Yeah, man you got me. It sucks having a beautiful wife, loving family, a teaching position, friends, status in the community and living life in moderation. I'm sure I would be better off as a whore mongering junkie who dresses in velvet Edwardian clothing, making shiatty "art" and dead before 40.


While his work may or may not be remembered with disdain, it will be remembered. Your accomplishments - if they do make you happy - are fine for you, but striving for mediocrity and the pursuit of the indistinct life hardly seems like something to brag about.
But you know, achieving through a life's effort to hit that perfect statistical mean is something. You'll find many people, many leaders of great distinction will appreciate your sacrifice. Not shown with more than a plague and a handshake - but for a full three minutes you'll be recognized for your life's dedication to the norm.

"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."

- George Bernard Shaw
 
2010-06-18 07:35:11 PM
www.jontanis.com
 
2010-06-18 08:50:55 PM
"For believe me: the secret for harvesting from existence the greatest fruitfulness and greatest enjoyment is - to live dangerously." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Reading about this guy's relatively short, but full and adventurous life makes me wonder if I have let my own life become too vanilla. Not so hardcore and over the top that I am shooting heroin, doing hookers, and shooting heroin while doing hookers, but maybe venture out and get a date on a Friday night instead of posting here.
 
2010-06-18 11:22:45 PM
He was sharp witted, eccentric, fun to watch and read, and as Pumpernickel Bread pointed out, "sometimes he made me think that maybe I could live I little more." I thoroughly enjoyed his book and his style, and his quips.

"You may look back on your life and accept it as good or evil. But it is far, far harder to admit that you have been completely unimportant; that in the great sum of things all a man's endless grapplings are no more significant than the scuttlings of a cockroach. The universe is neither friendly nor hostile. It is merely indifferent. This makes me ecstatic. I have reached a nirvana of negativity. I can look futility in the face and still see promise in the stars."

Good night, eccentric funny man.
 
2010-06-18 11:30:55 PM
And got a better return than anyone in the stock market..
 
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