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2010-06-16 09:29:35 AM  
Funny, I was just looking into taking French classes this summer. Going to France next weekend for a couple days to have a look around.
 
2010-06-16 09:39:50 AM  
DjangoStonereaver:
You say that if it makes you look like less of a knuckle dragging troll.

Adorable.


I like how you originally called someone a 12 year old troll for making a joke you didn't agree with, and now I'm a troll for pointing out how you failed while attempting to mock him for said joke. Life is just a sea of under-age trolls not impressed by your brilliance.

It might behove you to learn a few more insults if you are going to lash out whenever you make an obvious, humerous error.
 
2010-06-16 09:42:44 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: I see no point in learning French for one simple reason: the French have absolutely no interest in learning any language other than French.

Why not respond in kind?fark them.


France, like most other developed nations, has its kids learn (fluently) at least 2 languages (home and other) through the public educational system. Typically people there come to know 3 or 4. Which makes it all the more hilarious that people here flip a shiat when someone proposes that we make Spanish a mandatory and regular class.
 
2010-06-16 09:44:28 AM  
Porrick: I guess I uncounterantimisunderestimated its importance (my Eurochauvinism is showing again).

There is staggering agricultural potential in Brazil. One of the major acidic soil types in the southern part of the country created a technical problem, but this was recently overcome.
 
2010-06-16 09:48:50 AM  
Porrick: freewill: I studied French. I can read French newspapers. As it turns out, they seem to be even less informed than we are.

This is truth. They're almost as bad as UK papers. German papers aren't much better, either. If you think American newspapers suck, you've seen nothing. (your TV news, on the other hand...)

Sun God: snorkblaster: Sun God: Queen Victoria was German.

So was Queen Hitler, but that doesn't make it right!

Hitler was Austrian.

But where was Queen Hitler from? Eh?


Canada? Eh?

Actually the Queen of England is still in charge of Canada. Canada is a Commonwealth of the UK. If you're Canadian you actually pay taxes to the Queen of England.
 
2010-06-16 09:57:18 AM  
fudgefactor7: The world already has a universal language, and that language is porn.

No it isn't. Try telling a Chilean farmer that you've accidentally set fire to one of his sheep using only pornography.



ok you might actually be able to manage that one if you regularly visit /b/.
 
2010-06-16 10:00:36 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: I see no point in learning French for one simple reason: the French have absolutely no interest in learning any language other than French.

Why not respond in kind?fark them.


Know how I know you've never been to France and are a farking moran?

You say dumb shiat like this.

\Also you are declaring you want to be willfully ignorant out of spite
 
2010-06-16 10:08:38 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: I see no point in learning French for one simple reason: the French have absolutely no interest in learning any language other than French.

Why not respond in kind?fark them.


I never knew that language-learning was an act of international reciprocity! Does this mean I have to stop learning Mandarin because there are assholes in China too?

And there was me thinking that it's more helpful to learn languages of people who don't speak yours...

Cubicle Jockey: There is staggering agricultural potential in Brazil. One of the major acidic soil types in the southern part of the country created a technical problem, but this was recently overcome.

Is that potential still there if you keep the rainforests where they are? Those Greenpeace types have been droning on for years about how the rainforests are being cut down for McDonalds-beef-growing farms which end up being terrible for agriculture, but I always suspected there was some hyperbole in there. Then again, Brazil is bigger than the Amazon, so I think we're at the point where someone has to post a map.

Sun God: Actually the Queen of England is still in charge of Canada. Canada is a Commonwealth of the UK. If you're Canadian you actually pay taxes to the Queen of England.

Elizabeth II is Queen Hitler? Man, I should get into the flamewar on the Bloody Sunday thread with this!

/Or not. I find it a bit harder to be glib about that stuff. The stupid in that thread is burning.
 
2010-06-16 10:08:53 AM  
leegalizit:

(pic of french newscaster lady)

LHOOQ
 
2010-06-16 10:13:52 AM  
fudgefactor7: The world already has a universal language, and that language is porn.

The language with 100,000 different ways to say "Stay away from Japan".

/Also a startling number of ways to say "Fake tits are nasty", and "California attracts the weirdos".
 
2010-06-16 10:37:03 AM  
Madame DeFarge: We are so poor, we do not even have a language! Just this stupid accent!
Fellow Revolutionist: She's right, she's right! We all talk like Maurice Chevalier!
[impersonates the Chevalier laugh]
Fellow Revolutionist: Au-haw-haw.
Crowd: Au-haw-haw.

img.youtube.com
 
2010-06-16 10:38:56 AM  
Sun God: Porrick: freewill: I studied French. I can read French newspapers. As it turns out, they seem to be even less informed than we are.

This is truth. They're almost as bad as UK papers. German papers aren't much better, either. If you think American newspapers suck, you've seen nothing. (your TV news, on the other hand...)

Sun God: snorkblaster: Sun God: Queen Victoria was German.

So was Queen Hitler, but that doesn't make it right!

Hitler was Austrian.

But where was Queen Hitler from? Eh?

Canada? Eh?

Actually the Queen of England is still in charge of Canada. Canada is a Commonwealth of the UK. If you're Canadian you actually pay taxes to the Queen of England.


Not sure if the bolded part is a troll, but if it isn't, then you better dunk your head in some water soon, before the stupid burns it off.

Commonwealth nations are SOVEREIGN nations. The Queen appoints a Governor-General as her representative, but this is pretty much a figurehead posting. Canadian taxes stay in Canada.
 
2010-06-16 10:53:31 AM  
When I was a freshman in high school I lived in Louisiana. So French seemed like the right choice. Then, as a sophomore, I moved to a suburb of Houston. I took the second year of French, but was surprised that Russian was offered. Someone had to 'splain to me that I was going to school with NASA kids.

That said, as an adult, I've found the little Latin I know to be immensely helpful. If I would have realized its importance in the life sciences (Botanical nomenclature for example), I would have taken it if it was offered.
 
2010-06-16 10:54:04 AM  
It's kind of misleading to tout the importance of Arabic as the one blanket language for the Middle East. If you ever study it in an academic setting you will only learn Modern Standard Arabic, aka Classical Arabic, which is spoken regularly by no one, save news casters and diplomats, though it is technically the only written form of the language (although Egyptians seem to regularly ignore this rule).

There's so many dialects that most Arabs from the gulf will readily admit that they can't understand most North African dialects, save Egyptians because so much entertainment media is produced there.

Take it from me, a former military linguist, that if you want to learn a language that will put you ahead of your peers, go for Mandarin. I understand a few Arabic dialects but can only fluently speak Modern Standard Arabic, and this actually seems to be off-putting to most Arabs I encounter, who haven't spoken this version of the language since formal schooling.

In fact, I'm on my soap box now, so here's how different dialects can be from the standard version, just in everyday speech:

MSA: Kaif haluk alyoum? (How are you today?)
Egyptian: Zayak naharda? ("")

MSA: Maza taf'al al'aan? (What are you doing right now?)
Iraqi: Shetsawi hisa? ("")
 
2010-06-16 10:59:30 AM  
Savage Bacon: Sun God: Porrick: freewill: I studied French. I can read French newspapers. As it turns out, they seem to be even less informed than we are.

This is truth. They're almost as bad as UK papers. German papers aren't much better, either. If you think American newspapers suck, you've seen nothing. (your TV news, on the other hand...)

Sun God: snorkblaster: Sun God: Queen Victoria was German.

So was Queen Hitler, but that doesn't make it right!

Hitler was Austrian.

But where was Queen Hitler from? Eh?

Canada? Eh?

Actually the Queen of England is still in charge of Canada. Canada is a Commonwealth of the UK. If you're Canadian you actually pay taxes to the Queen of England.

Not sure if the bolded part is a troll, but if it isn't, then you better dunk your head in some water soon, before the stupid burns it off.

Commonwealth nations are SOVEREIGN nations. The Queen appoints a Governor-General as her representative, but this is pretty much a figurehead posting. Canadian taxes stay in Canada.


Made you look. Monkeys always look. Australia is another example.
 
2010-06-16 11:00:16 AM  
NaziKamikaze: Velveeta_Poindexter: I see no point in learning French for one simple reason: the French have absolutely no interest in learning any language other than French.

Why not respond in kind?fark them.

Know how I know you've never been to France and are a farking moran?

You say dumb shiat like this.

\Also you are declaring you want to be willfully ignorant out of spite


Swing and miss. I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

To further disappoint your assumption, I'm the antithesis of the USA flag fannypack-wearing, Freedom Fries jackass that gives us all a bad name overseas. I learned as much French as I could before and during the trip, but whenever I found myself unsure how to ask something in French, I was met with the surliest resistance to a simple "Parlez vous Anglais?"

Had it been once, I'd have written it off. But when it happens repeatedly, I take notice.
 
2010-06-16 11:02:33 AM  
DjangoStonereaver: Fortunately, you're 12 years old, and there is time for you to actually learn something.

Romance languages have nothing to do with Latin or ancient Rome. The classification is derived from the widely-accepted acknowledgment that speaking a Romance language results in the ability to attract more babes.

The misinformation in the article you linked to is a perfect example of why citing Wikipedia as a source is frowned upon.
 
2010-06-16 11:08:59 AM  
nlscb: There is only ONE foreign language that employers will pay you a higher salary to learn:

Standard American English

The days of learning French or Chinese and being sent to work in France or China ended decades ago. They will just find a native from that country and teach him English.

That being said, it's worth learning one language besides your native one in order to learn how language is structured. I learned most of my grammar taking Latin, not in English class. So you don't have to study a dead language like me, I suspect Spanish would provide a similar experience.


I agree with this. Chinese has become quite overrated as a foreign language. Despite the fact that Chinese (and its dialects) are spoken by the most people in the world, it really isn't a world language. Outside of China and Taiwan, there really aren't too many places where Chinese is necessary. Even in Singapore and among the ethnic Chinese communities in SE Asia, most of them can speak English or the local language.

Within China, most young students are becoming at least basically proficient in English, since it became a required foreign language in schools.

Even for businesspeople in China, learning Chinese is only useful for just getting around in daily life, and making sure that all interpretation services are accurate. Almost all business negotiations will be conducted in English, and whenever interpreters are required, they will almost exclusively be Chinese interpreters, not foreign.

Pretty much the only people that find knowing Chinese useful are those that come here to China as teachers or professors, or those who spend a lot of time traveling independently outside of China's major cities.

Despite its size, Chinese is a niche language, like Korean or Japanese, where its usefulness is limited to a specific geographic area.

Although I do agree that French is on its way out as a lingua franca, I think it still is of some use since it isn't confined to just France. The role of French in Canada is debatable given that English is the overwhelmingly dominant language outside of Quebec, but in many African nations which have become important sources of natural resources, French is necessary. French is also still a working language of numerous international organizations such as the ICAO, FIFA, as well as the various UN organizations.
 
2010-06-16 11:12:00 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: NaziKamikaze: Velveeta_Poindexter: I see no point in learning French for one simple reason: the French have absolutely no interest in learning any language other than French.

Why not respond in kind?fark them.

Know how I know you've never been to France and are a farking moran?

You say dumb shiat like this.

\Also you are declaring you want to be willfully ignorant out of spite

Swing and miss. I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

To further disappoint your assumption, I'm the antithesis of the USA flag fannypack-wearing, Freedom Fries jackass that gives us all a bad name overseas. I learned as much French as I could before and during the trip, but whenever I found myself unsure how to ask something in French, I was met with the surliest resistance to a simple "Parlez vous Anglais?"

Had it been once, I'd have written it off. But when it happens repeatedly, I take notice.


See that underlined/bolded part? That explains the surly resistance. Go practically anywhere else in France and you'll find folks to be more receptive.
 
2010-06-16 11:18:06 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

I was in a major foreign city for like a month, guys. I totally know what I'm talking about!
 
2010-06-16 11:21:49 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: Swing and miss. I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

That's weird. I was in Paris for two weeks in June.
 
2010-06-16 11:22:16 AM  
So the French are sweethearts, except in their largest city where the majority are assholes?
 
2010-06-16 11:23:36 AM  
BadAnalogyGuy: I've started using the term "American" to describe the language we speak in the USA. It is sufficiently different from the language they speak in England that articles written in that language are difficult to understand here with both different spellings and different rules for punctuation, not to mention a completely different and non-sensical lexicon.

Ya but ebonics isn't spoken outside of the U.S.
 
2010-06-16 11:24:55 AM  
wyltoknow: Velveeta_Poindexter: I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

I was in a major foreign city for like a month, guys. I totally know what I'm talking about!


Describe the depth and breadth of experience necessary to offer an opinion on a people's willingness to speak a language other than their own? If not a month in one of their cities, then what? Two? Twelve? Ten thousand?
 
2010-06-16 11:34:37 AM  
haddie: Hindmost: brainiac-dumdum: Hindmost: brainiac-dumdum: pamplemousse

ananas

groseille à maquereau

Jus d'orange

Fruits de mer


discotheque
 
2010-06-16 11:36:18 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: Describe the depth and breadth of experience necessary to offer an opinion on a people's willingness to speak a language other than their own? If not a month in one of their cities, then what? Two? Twelve? Ten thousand?

A girl stripped down next to me on the Nice beach. She spoke English. It was fun. She was beautiful. The Nice beach is made of rocks. I bought drinks from the beach vendors.

I once met a French girl who was studying at the Sorbonne. Her major was English. She spoke English completely fluently.
 
2010-06-16 11:37:25 AM  
Sun God

That's weird. I was in Paris for two weeks in June.


Even weirder: I was in June for two weeks in Paris.
 
2010-06-16 11:37:30 AM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: Swing and miss. I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

To further disappoint your assumption, I'm the antithesis of the USA flag fannypack-wearing, Freedom Fries jackass that gives us all a bad name overseas. I learned as much French as I could before and during the trip, but whenever I found myself unsure how to ask something in French, I was met with the surliest resistance to a simple "Parlez vous Anglais?"

Had it been once, I'd have written it off. But when it happens repeatedly, I take notice.


Savage Bacon: Go practically anywhere else in France and you'll find folks to be more receptive.

Yep. I speak a little French. Not enough to pass for local, but enough to understand what people are saying and have a go at making myself understood. In Paris, this seems to be regarded as a mortal sin. Dirty looks from everyone, for daring to be foreign and speak imperfect French. When I went to Germany for the first time I spoke zero German. None at all, but I had a phrase book and tried to pick up as much as I could. Although they spoke better English than most Parisians, they were generally appreciative of my effort to learn and showed it. I'm now fluent in German and my French still sucks.

My GF lived in Paris all last year, and she's never encountered as much racism, chauvinism or xenophobia anywhere in her life (she looks Asian, but she's from California and has travelled quite a bit). This included more than one old lady spitting at her in the street, and just about everyone treating her like shiat. Her French is pretty much flawless now, apart from a slight American accent. She's in London now and having no troubles with the natives at all.

In summary: Paris sucks because it's full of Parisians. The rest of France is okay, I guess, but still less welcoming than any other West-European country I've been to (never been to the Iberian peninsula).

That said, French is still an important language to learn, for the reasons given earlier in the thread.
 
2010-06-16 11:49:58 AM  
Porrick:
Yep. I speak a little French. Not enough to pass for local, but enough to understand what people are saying and have a go at making myself understood. In Paris, this seems to be regarded as a mortal sin. Dirty looks from everyone, for daring to be foreign and speak imperfect French. When I went to Germany for the first time I spoke zero German. None at all, but I had a phrase book and tried to pick up as much as I could. Although they spoke better English than most Parisians, they were generally appreciative of my effort to learn and showed it. I'm now fluent in German and my French still sucks.

My GF lived in Paris all last year, and she's never encountered as much racism, chauvinism or xenophobia anywhere in her life (she looks Asian, but she's from California and has travelled quite a bit). This included more than one old lady spitting at her in the street, and just about everyone treating her like shiat. Her French is pretty much flawless now, apart from a slight American accent. She's in London now and having no troubles with the natives at all.


I had a similar experience in Germany--everyone was appreciative of my efforts to speak their language, and many offered to speak English without my even asking. (Who knew the Germans could be warmer than someone?)

I'm going to try a more provincial part of France in the next 2 to 3 years. Hopefully it'll be a better experience. Until then, for me, the French suck.
 
2010-06-16 12:15:16 PM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: So the French are sweethearts, except in their largest city where the majority are assholes?

That's the consesus, yeah. Of course, I suspect the others are assholes too, just not quite as bad. I've not properly investigated yet, though - nor am I particlarly curious. I have a few clients in Nice and elsewhere in France, so I'm sure I'll have to go down and visit them one of these days...

/Actually the French clients are perfectly nice, even the Parisian ones. Maybe they're only like that to strangers...
 
2010-06-16 12:31:48 PM  
Sumo Surfer: DjangoStonereaver: Fortunately, you're 12 years old, and there is time for you to actually learn something.

Romance languages have nothing to do with Latin or ancient Rome. The classification is derived from the widely-accepted acknowledgment that speaking a Romance language results in the ability to attract more babes.

The misinformation in the article you linked to is a perfect example of why citing Wikipedia as a source is frowned upon.


Looks like I found haddie's alt....
 
2010-06-16 12:48:52 PM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: Describe the depth and breadth of experience necessary to offer an opinion on a people's willingness to speak a language other than their own? If not a month in one of their cities, then what? Two? Twelve? Ten thousand?

I'm going to go ahead and say that spending a few weeks in one city in a large nation does not qualify you to say retarded blanket statements like "The French are dicks who refuse to speak other languages."
 
2010-06-16 12:51:48 PM  
I wish more schools offered more useful languages. I had to learn Spanish and French because my only alternative was German. Although I found French to be incredibly easy (and somehow retained more than Spanish even though I took more years of Spanish) it is so useless. I've used it twice, once when I was in Tunisia and I wanted to know how much a hookah was, and once in France when I wanted ice cream.

I use Spanish when I'm listening to Mexican creeps talking about how hot some girl is, but I never want to speak it unless absolutely necessary. I'm also at a basic level of Japanese and have used it zero times (though I will when I go to Japan).

What I should've learned is Cantonese, as I live in Chinatown and deciphering dimsum bills is impossible. And Hindi so I could talk to my family without everyone around me knowing what I'm saying.
 
2010-06-16 01:07:03 PM  
wyltoknow: I'm going to go ahead and say that spending a few weeks in one city in a large nation does not qualify you to say retarded blanket statements like "The French are dicks who refuse to speak other languages."

It's still true, even if it was an unqualified guess on his part.
 
2010-06-16 01:11:30 PM  
Years ago I boarded the train to head into work and noticed a cute looking woman on the train. She was about a 6 out of 10. A short while later her phone rang, she answered it and said, "Allo?" and then proceeded to speak in French. She instantly went from a 6 to an 8! Useless or not, French is one damn sexy language when the ladies speak it!
 
2010-06-16 01:25:12 PM  
Mock26: Years ago I boarded the train to head into work and noticed a cute looking woman on the train. She was about a 6 out of 10. A short while later her phone rang, she answered it and said, "Allo?" and then proceeded to speak in French. She instantly went from a 6 to an 8! Useless or not, French is one damn sexy language when the ladies speak it!

Whatever floats your boat. I have a thing for Germanic and Slavic languages myself, or any language spoken by Milla Jovovich. The French thing seems pretty common among Anglophones though. Lucky them.
 
2010-06-16 01:40:22 PM  
Sun God: skandalus: It depends on how you ask the question. Most of today's most common words have Germanic roots, but the majority of today's English words are Latin/French-derived.

I think you need to reread what you said. Most common words versus the majority of words?

Buch/book, auto/auto, bier/beer, hause/house, blau/blue, rot/red, braun/brown.

Ich/Je

It isn't really a case for some kind of chauvinistic discussion. The English language is based on Germanic origins. It is a fact.

Queen Victoria was German.


German =/= germanic, and I believe "auto" is a Latin loan word into German anyway. The Germanic languages all derive from proto-Germanic. This includes English. It also includes German. Old English and the German spoken at the time of Old English really were like dialects of the same language. So English and German are like cousins, it's not a parental thing. You should also let Queen Victoria know that she got there like 1300 years too late to invent English.

Sun God: skandalus: Nah, I'm pretty sure of what I said. The most frequently occurring words in English tend to be Germanic. However, a larger portion of the overall vocabulary has Latin roots. Both of those are also facts. If you want to fight me there, knock yourself out. You'll still be just as wrong, but knock yourself out. Either way, I'm off to bed in a few.

You keep saying the same thing twice. "English has Germanic roots but what we speak today is rooted in the Romance Languages." This really isn't true. Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish, Dutch, Welsh, some Slavic languages are all rooted in non-Latin languages, and have more similarity to English than Spanish, French, or Italian.


This post is so full of fail. English vocabulary comes mostly from Latinate roots. It's roughly a 70/30% split, not accounting for roots that aren't Germanic or Latinate. Finnish, Welsh, and "some Slavic languages" aren't similar to English at all. I don't know how you got this idea but it's really, really wrong. Finnish is in the Uralic (Finno-Ugric) language family, and it's not even related to other European languages, except Estonian and Hungarian. Welsh is a Celtic language and its influence on English is confined almost exclusively to place names. Slavic languages aren't similar to English at all really (although out of the European branches of Indo-European languages, Slavic and Germanic were the last to split from each other), and none of them come from Latin. Latin has its own language family, Italic. Members include Portuguese, Spanish, French, Romansch, Italian, Romanian, and all the rest.
 
2010-06-16 01:53:35 PM  
Velveeta_Poindexter: Swing and miss. I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

You know who else was in Paris in June?
 
2010-06-16 02:04:43 PM  
LewDux: Velveeta_Poindexter: Swing and miss. I was in Paris for most of June 2006.

You know who else was in Paris in June?


That slut.
 
2010-06-16 02:05:48 PM  
DjangoStonereaver: Sumo Surfer: DjangoStonereaver: Fortunately, you're 12 years old, and there is time for you to actually learn something.

Romance languages have nothing to do with Latin or ancient Rome. The classification is derived from the widely-accepted acknowledgment that speaking a Romance language results in the ability to attract more babes.

The misinformation in the article you linked to is a perfect example of why citing Wikipedia as a source is frowned upon.

Looks like I found haddie's alt....


Why would I need an alt? I'm openly an ass.

Just because two people think you're an idiot doesn't make one an alt. Good attempt, though.
 
2010-06-16 02:08:47 PM  
time for bappar: This post is so full of fail. English vocabulary comes mostly from Latinate roots. It's roughly a 70/30% split, not accounting for roots that aren't Germanic or Latinate. Finnish, Welsh, and "some Slavic languages" aren't similar to English at all. I don't know how you got this idea but it's really, really wrong. Finnish is in the Uralic (Finno-Ugric) language family, and it's not even related to other European languages, except Estonian and Hungarian. Welsh is a Celtic language and its influence on English is confined almost exclusively to place names. Slavic languages aren't similar to English at all really (although out of the European branches of Indo-European languages, Slavic and Germanic were the last to split from each other), and none of them come from Latin. Latin has its own language family, Italic. Members include Portuguese, Spanish, French, Romansch, Italian, Romanian, and all the rest.

Boo! Obviously you weren't listening when this thread turned into a France-bashing contest!

/You come in here with your fancy words and your proper understanding of the issue at hand. We don't take kindly to that sort of book-learnin' around here!

//You're not even contributing to the which-accent-or-language-is-hotter debate! Shame on you!
 
2010-06-16 02:16:10 PM  
Bagarrez-vous sur le sujet, pendant que je séduis vos femmes.

/oui
 
2010-06-16 02:31:13 PM  
English is one of the most nonsensical languages in the world for people who are trying to learn it. It's absolutely hideous. The patience needed to learn it could turn a monk to blasphemy.
 
2010-06-16 02:40:29 PM  
bednet: Bagarrez-vous sur le sujet, pendant que je séduis vos femmes.

/oui


Versuch das, mal! Unsere Frauen wissen schon, wie enttaeuschend Franzosen sind. Vielleicht brauchen Deine Frauen ein Bisschen Zeit mit einer echter Mann.

/Yarp
 
2010-06-16 02:55:53 PM  
Porrick: Versuch das, mal! Unsere Frauen wissen schon, wie enttaeuschend Franzosen sind. Vielleicht brauchen Deine Frauen ein Bisschen Zeit mit einer echter Mann.

/Yarp


Si tu le dit.
 
2010-06-16 03:24:57 PM  
Having studied French for six years in American schools, and then subsequently attending a French school, I can attest to the fact that studying the language is mainly a waste of time due to the fact that, even if you speak their language very well, the French will sneer at your inferior accent and imperfect syntax.

Try speaking even the barest minimum of any other non-English language to a native speaker, and they will usually be pleasantly surprised and very supportive.

/also used to speak some conversational Arabic
 
2010-06-16 03:35:17 PM  
Sun God: GAT_00: Yeah, it's useless except for creating modern English. The King's English used to be French.

English grammar is mostly derived from Germanic languages. Not the Latin derived languages.


Much of the vocabulary, on the other hand, is from Latin via French. What we call English now was once the pidgin that the Norman conquorers used to pick up Saxon wenches.
 
2010-06-16 03:40:46 PM  
Jim_Callahan: Oh, and toss some Indian (subcontinent, not American) phrases in there for seasoning at a later date.

Hitch up your muckalucks to your toboggan and understand that for every Indian dot word in English (Pundit, Dungarees), there's an Indian feather word too (Hammock, potlatch).

/ TMYK
 
2010-06-16 03:42:53 PM  
Jim_Callahan: grows the Latin (new words like "telephone", photon)

psst, both Greek.
 
2010-06-16 03:43:45 PM  
Hey, do NOT blame America for English being a "nonsensical languages" language. Blame the English for that.
 
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