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(Uproxx)   TLC's Top 5 most disturbing series. "There's really no good excuse for why you should ever be watching Toddlers & Tiaras, unless you're listening to 'Goodbye Horses' and building a skin suit in your basement"   (uproxx.com ) divider line 191
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2010-06-10 01:42:19 PM  

KatjaMouse: DeaH: Does anyone else remember when the Republicans argued that we no longer need PBS because cable offered The Learning Channel?

Thank FSM for PBS and NPR!


His Noodley Goodness on PBS:

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2010-06-10 01:48:37 PM  

ttintagel: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: What's the breakdown on genders for the viewership for these shows? I'm guessing it's 4/5 female. So why is that, why do women like this stuff?

If you don't have an idea of why women would like it, then what leads you to guess that they do?


Well, do you really think a lot of dudes watch this stuff? Gay ones, maybe.
 
2010-06-10 01:51:47 PM  

Hebalo: Lollipop165: precia

brigid_fitch

My mother is a hoarder, and even I have problems figuring it all out. Of course, she's not as bad as the ones you see on TV, but that's partly because she's never lived alone, and my dad can only take so much before he goes on a cleaning rampage. She also isn't inclined to hang onto food (or dead animals).

My mother-in-law and my grandmother-in-law are borderline hoarders. I honestly think in their case it is partially the fact that my GMIL had to raise her kids in a poor household, so everything is saved. But also there is some crazy compulsive shopping going on. Like they have 5 AM/FM radios cause they were on sale in Chinatown and they were a "great deal" and why not have 5 AM/FM radios? There's about 2 rooms completely filled; the rest of the house has a lot of stuff, but it is all neat. My husband's room looks EXACTLY the same as when he left it in 1998. I keep on telling him he should take initiative and just throw the crap out of his room; he says his mother won't let him.



My problem with the Hoarders show is that they're pretty much making money off some people with serious psychological issues. It's one thing to show Kate Gosslin and her ilk, who go into it knowingly for hte cash/fame, but Hoarders seems to be very exploity, while couching in it a fashion that makes it okay, since "we're helping".

I would agree with that, esp. after seeing TLC's "Buried Alive". Although "Hoarders" does supply the people w/funds for after-care, after the place is cleaned out, the A&E crew just leave the hoarders to their own devices. There doesn't seem to be any follow-up except on rare occasions where they can exploit some people for a "follow-up show" once a year. But during the show, they put these people through undue stress & anxiety, pressuring them to get rid of as much stuff as they can, as though nobody else in their lives has ever pointed out the ramifications of keeping a houseful of crap. That show's definitely more about shock value than actually helping people.

TLC's "Buried Alive" does seem to work more w/the disease, focusing on having the patient clear out a specific space in a specific timeframe. They are assigned an organizer & a therapist who walk them through pretty much every step, checking their level of anxiety & only pushing when it's necessary. And at the end of the specific time period, the hoarder has one room clean. After that, the therapist will refer them to someone local and check on them periodically via phone. It's more like A&E's "Intervention" (which, I feel compelled to say, is the BEST reality show out there).
 
2010-06-10 02:12:00 PM  
If we're talking old school TLC, anyone remember a show called "The Secret Life of Machines"? Every week these two nerdy British guys would tell you how a sewing machine or radio or VCR worked. They'd also throw in some facts about its history and the people who invented it. And as if the show itself wasn't cool enough, the theme music was David Brubeck's classic "Take 5".

Good times.
 
2010-06-10 02:13:01 PM  
Now I have a better understanding of why they offered Sarah Whatshername a coupla shows.
 
2010-06-10 02:27:43 PM  
Realize that back in the day (Pre-Reagan) when we actually had the money to support these social services, extreme hoarders would be institutionalized and medicated for their illness, their homes cleaned and often sold at auction, or condemned and razed in more extreme circumstances.

With no mental hospitals with sufficient capacity to support them anymore (or the schitzophrenic among others), they have free reign to do this shiat, and thus become bizarre celebrities. I see the show as simply people who would be better off medicated in a secure, controlled environment vs. allowed to run free and unbalanced.

I feel the same about Intervention. It's sad to look into the window of a junkie, but every goddamn one of them has one or more enablers giving them ample excuses to make no improvements in their lives.
 
2010-06-10 02:27:58 PM  
I put my daughter in exactly one baby contest when she was about 5 months old. Since she was the only one that actually smiled at the judges, she won. She's now two and even though others have urged my wife and I to enter her in other similar contest, I have refused. When she's old enough to come to me and tell me she wants to get involved in something like that, then I'll reconsider.
 
2010-06-10 02:37:42 PM  
I will never watch Hoarders, because it will scare the crap out of me, because I KNOW I'm just a *few* steps removed from that. I'm getting a bit better (Alright. I know I'm hanging onto these old college notebooks becausde they could be useful, but I don't need my notes from my Canterbury tales class, I'm a physicist.), but it's still HARD to throw stuff away. I find my brain going "But but but what if you NEED it later!"
 
2010-06-10 02:37:45 PM  
TV sucks!
 
2010-06-10 02:44:55 PM  
The Duggar show definitely belongs in its position. Few can pull off the creepy incest vibe like Jim Bob Duggar nor the brainwashed by religion eyes of Michelle.

T&T was a very close second.

/Please, can someone just kill TLC off already?
 
2010-06-10 02:46:29 PM  
My hoarder story:
I'm moving into a small, basement, 1-br apartment with my fiance. I will admit to keeping things I don't have much use for, but I didn't realize how bad it was on my fiance's side. I'm 23 and he's going to be 29 next week. I wouldn't mind him keeping half the stuff he wants to keep if he actually did something with it.

To compromise, I'm snagging some of the "memory" stuff and hiding it away when he's not looking, like news clippings with his name in them from bowling tournaments 10 years ago. Once the apartment is totally unpacked, I'm going to make a "scrapwall" that has pictures, keychains (he used to collect them), and any other stuff like that framed or otherwise showcased/looking nice. That way, we have some decorations, and he doesn't just have piles of random stuff hidden away in a box.

Now I just have to convince him that we only need one or two pieces of the 4-piece sofa set that was "gifted" on us. Also, see if I can talk him into storing two or three of his larger fish tanks until we have a bigger place...

As for TLC - I will have to admit that I watch Say Yes to the Dress, but only to make myself feel better about the $300-$500 I'll probably end up spending on a dress. At least it's not $17,000 right?! Also, my guilty pleasure of Bridezillas is something I am constantly teased about :(
 
2010-06-10 02:49:43 PM  

Felgraf: I will never watch Hoarders, because it will scare the crap out of me, because I KNOW I'm just a *few* steps removed from that. I'm getting a bit better (Alright. I know I'm hanging onto these old college notebooks becausde they could be useful, but I don't need my notes from my Canterbury tales class, I'm a physicist.), but it's still HARD to throw stuff away. I find my brain going "But but but what if you NEED it later!"


I was in a Canturbury Tales class once. I promise you, I haven't needed my notes since I took it 5 years ago. Plus: Wikipedia.
 
2010-06-10 02:51:21 PM  

precia: I was in middle school with a former pageant brat. She was still riding high off the glory of her toddler days, and it was annoying as fark. Apparently she ended up in tears once because someone else's Halloween costume was prettier than hers. Aside from the (emotional) pageant scars, she was a nice enough kid, but being told how pretty and perfect she was through her childhood really messed her up.

Shortly after high school she got knocked up, had a shotgun wedding, birthed a total of 3 kids*, gave them all really stupid names and got super fat (or so I've been told).

*so far


Nice satchel.
 
2010-06-10 03:05:11 PM  

daveb0rg: Nice satchel.


What?

Are you implying that I made a shoulder bag out of her skin? Because I totally didn't.
 
2010-06-10 03:12:56 PM  

brigid_fitch: I do own property but I refuse to encourage this behavior. I'd rather surreptitiously throw away stuff little by little so that he doesn't notice. Luckily, with the exception of paperbacks & junk in his car, he doesn't really hoard anything else. Stuff that's already in the office is really old. Basically, if I don't throw it away IMMEDIATELY and it sits around for more than a month, he grows an emotional attachment to it & it becomes a challenge. So, I've learned to make periodic sweeps of the house every week or so.


That's fair. I'd be a bit nervous throwing out things that may have sentimental value, but that's probably because I tend to be a little attached to things as well. But some stuff, like the shower curtain rings or newspapers from 1992, can go right out.

She actually has a system for the newspapers, which makes them extra easy to toss. Once she's read a section, she puts a check mark in the corner of the first page. So, we grab a handful of papers from the bottom of the stack, put some check marks on and stick them in the bottom of the recycling basket. When she goes through the basket (to make sure we're not throwing out her precious things), she sees the mark and assumes she already read those ones.
 
2010-06-10 03:15:41 PM  

precia: I was in middle school with a former pageant brat. She was still riding high off the glory of her toddler days, and it was annoying as fark. Apparently she ended up in tears once because someone else's Halloween costume was prettier than hers. Aside from the (emotional) pageant scars, she was a nice enough kid, but being told how pretty and perfect she was through her childhood really messed her up.

Shortly after high school she got knocked up, had a shotgun wedding, birthed a total of 3 kids*, gave them all really stupid names and got super fat (or so I've been told).

*so far


So what was Britney like back then?
 
2010-06-10 03:30:09 PM  

J.Garcia'sRightMiddleFinger: Blocked at work, can anyone post in here?


Basically TLC's main lineup.
TLC=Total Lack of Class.
 
2010-06-10 03:44:32 PM  

apackagefromted: Juel1979: brigid_fitch: I tried to watch an episode of Toddlers & Tiaras and I just felt sick to my stomach. Those poor kids.

Years ago, there was a show called "Stage Moms" (I forget which channel). At least THAT show focused on the asshattery & douchbagginess of the mothers and not on the poor kids. It also included show-dog owners, so even some of the creepiness was mitigated.

Showbiz Moms and Dads? That show was freakin fascinating in an odd way. The only decent parent on there was the single mom with the little girl who'd done a few films and some voice acting. Her mom kept her butt grounded completely, like checking homework and bedtime routine normalcy. The rest were kinda nuts.


I thought the Sports Mom and Dads were even more disturbing, telling your 7 year old he is going to be an NFL draft pick is setting him up for such a huge let down if he doesn't make it and that is what his entire life centered around. The show biz kids are at least used to the rejection since they start the auditions as kids, not that I would even think of subjecting my kids to that life either.


Read Revolution in the Bleachers. (new window)
 
2010-06-10 03:50:54 PM  

MugzyBrown: I am going to start a child pageant circuit.

I will have all of the kids go back stage to 'prepare' and then all of the parents in the audience will be gassed.

I'll take this show on tour throughout the US.


Know who else gassed large numbers of people?

/my first Godwin
//I'm so proud
 
2010-06-10 04:02:19 PM  
What the hell kind of clown even watches TLC?

/like fo reals y'all
 
2010-06-10 04:08:03 PM  

LockeOak: 19 Kids Can


Before college is a problem, Jebus will have raptured them all to heaven!
 
2010-06-10 04:30:39 PM  

featherspy: My hoarder story:
I'm moving into a small, basement, 1-br apartment with my fiance. I will admit to keeping things I don't have much use for, but I didn't realize how bad it was on my fiance's side. I'm 23 and he's going to be 29 next week. I wouldn't mind him keeping half the stuff he wants to keep if he actually did something with it.

To compromise, I'm snagging some of the "memory" stuff and hiding it away when he's not looking, like news clippings with his name in them from bowling tournaments 10 years ago. Once the apartment is totally unpacked, I'm going to make a "scrapwall" that has pictures, keychains (he used to collect them), and any other stuff like that framed or otherwise showcased/looking nice. That way, we have some decorations, and he doesn't just have piles of random stuff hidden away in a box.

Now I just have to convince him that we only need one or two pieces of the 4-piece sofa set that was "gifted" on us. Also, see if I can talk him into storing two or three of his larger fish tanks until we have a bigger place...

As for TLC - I will have to admit that I watch Say Yes to the Dress, but only to make myself feel better about the $300-$500 I'll probably end up spending on a dress. At least it's not $17,000 right?! Also, my guilty pleasure of Bridezillas is something I am constantly teased about :(


I enjoy that show for the same reason. I bought a pronovias gown on ebay for 500 (it was a sample) and it fits me perfectly. It would have cost at least 2 grand at the store. If you go that route though make sure you always look at the exact measurements and not the sizes. Also look into Ariadress.com for simple pretty gowns that are inexpensive and made of real silk or cotton. For me, I couldn't stand the idea of wearing a polyester dress.
 
2010-06-10 04:31:27 PM  
My wife for the longest time was watching "I didn't know I was pregnant" and the two MTV shows about teen moms. Then she was having dreams about being pregnant. She doesn't want kids though. Also, people up thread forgot about MTV playing music.
 
2010-06-10 04:36:20 PM  

ace in your face: featherspy: My hoarder story:
I'm moving into a small, basement, 1-br apartment with my fiance. I will admit to keeping things I don't have much use for, but I didn't realize how bad it was on my fiance's side. I'm 23 and he's going to be 29 next week. I wouldn't mind him keeping half the stuff he wants to keep if he actually did something with it.

To compromise, I'm snagging some of the "memory" stuff and hiding it away when he's not looking, like news clippings with his name in them from bowling tournaments 10 years ago. Once the apartment is totally unpacked, I'm going to make a "scrapwall" that has pictures, keychains (he used to collect them), and any other stuff like that framed or otherwise showcased/looking nice. That way, we have some decorations, and he doesn't just have piles of random stuff hidden away in a box.

Now I just have to convince him that we only need one or two pieces of the 4-piece sofa set that was "gifted" on us. Also, see if I can talk him into storing two or three of his larger fish tanks until we have a bigger place...

As for TLC - I will have to admit that I watch Say Yes to the Dress, but only to make myself feel better about the $300-$500 I'll probably end up spending on a dress. At least it's not $17,000 right?! Also, my guilty pleasure of Bridezillas is something I am constantly teased about :(

I enjoy that show for the same reason. I bought a pronovias gown on ebay for 500 (it was a sample) and it fits me perfectly. It would have cost at least 2 grand at the store. If you go that route though make sure you always look at the exact measurements and not the sizes. Also look into Ariadress.com for simple pretty gowns that are inexpensive and made of real silk or cotton. For me, I couldn't stand the idea of wearing a polyester dress.


I have to say my boyfriend's mother got me hooked on those shows which she only started watching while she was helping her daughter plan her wedding. I blame these shows and that woman for making me desire something more than City Hall and a nice cocktail dress.

/Caught the bouquet at the wedding
//instantly imagined my sister and two best friends in plum and olive colored dresses/suit and tie
///then thought of the color palette
////then I said "aww f*ck" out loud
 
2010-06-10 04:46:25 PM  

namegoeshere: MugzyBrown: I am going to start a child pageant circuit.

I will have all of the kids go back stage to 'prepare' and then all of the parents in the audience will be gassed.

I'll take this show on tour throughout the US.

Know who else gassed large numbers of people?

/my first Godwin
//I'm so proud


That fat kid from high school who used to let a low rumbler out during pep rallies? He did tuba solos in the second floor boys room after lunch. The stink still lingers in the halls.
 
2010-06-10 04:53:35 PM  
Little People/Big World makes a great drinking game. We drink a shot of beer every time they overcome adversity.
/Its like 12 shots just in the opening credits
 
2010-06-10 04:55:26 PM  
As reality-TV goes, this is up there in terms of pure weirdness.
 
2010-06-10 05:16:36 PM  
Lots scarier things than big families. Someone has to make up for all the infertile people.
 
2010-06-10 06:03:44 PM  

brigid_fitch: Some stuff is fine. But I'm talking 8 or 9 boxes of junk taking up an entire closet.


fair enough
 
2010-06-10 07:18:11 PM  
So sleepy

Agree with this list. Re "Toddlers and Tiaras" the mothers who put their babies in these arseholic "beauty pageants" should be forced to watch footage of all the pervs who are fapping to it. Hopefully they would rethink - naw, they wouldn't.

I guarantee you the only thing they would be concerned about would be if the pervs wouldn't fapping as quickly to their kid. These are some sick goddamn people we're talking about.

j0ndas

Lots scarier things than big families. Someone has to make up for all the infertile people.

Yeah, otherwise this crippling underpopulation problem we're having will get even worse!
 
2010-06-10 07:31:53 PM  
I have to stop myself from hoarding. It's sometimes pretty hard. I blame it on two house fires that destroyed everything I owned. One when I was in seventh grade and one when I was 19. So, I lost all my kid memento's and then lost everything I had saved that was important to me through middle and high school. After that I had a compulsive need to hang onto every little thing. It lasted a couple years until I looked around and wondered why the hell I had whatever item it was. I went on a purge binge and tossed a bunch of crap. So, when my dad died a handful of years later and my step-mom gave me bags of his clothes, I was able to go through 'em and pitch most of them. Some t-shirts got kept as nightshirts, a pair of jeans got made into a purse, the rest went into the dumpster.
 
2010-06-10 08:52:13 PM  

misfitdreams: I have to stop myself from hoarding. It's sometimes pretty hard. I blame it on two house fires that destroyed everything I owned. One when I was in seventh grade and one when I was 19. So, I lost all my kid memento's and then lost everything I had saved that was important to me through middle and high school. After that I had a compulsive need to hang onto every little thing. It lasted a couple years until I looked around and wondered why the hell I had whatever item it was. I went on a purge binge and tossed a bunch of crap. So, when my dad died a handful of years later and my step-mom gave me bags of his clothes, I was able to go through 'em and pitch most of them. Some t-shirts got kept as nightshirts, a pair of jeans got made into a purse, the rest went into the dumpster.


Your situation w/the fires is akin to why my husband hoards. His mother went through a huge string of abusive relationships when he was little. Finally, when he was around 10, she seemed to have landed a decent guy. He'd buy the kids gifts, clothes, toys--everything their previous father figures never bothered with because it would mean less beer money.

Then one day this decent guy went on a 3-day bender & destroyed EVERYTHING he'd ever bought any of the kids. The result was that his sisters to this day keep very austere homes, never forming attachments to anything material. My husband went the exact opposite, desperately clinging on to anything that he could claim as rightfully his. That's why, if I throw it away immediately, it's not a big deal--he didn't have time to grow attached to that piece of junk mail w/his name on it. But if I let it sit for more than a week? Forget it--it stays for YEARS until I can eventually sneak it out w/the trash.
 
2010-06-10 11:45:31 PM  
TLC is horrible as a whole, but I will admit that I enjoy What Not to Wear. I love when they go through people's closets of dreadful '80s clothes.

I should go to Goodwill, spend about $100 buying a crap ton of ugly clothes, pretend like I actually wear them, and have one of my friends nominate me. Then, I'd get $5000 for a new wardrobe.

Is it sad that I've thought about doing this?
 
2010-06-11 12:33:18 AM  
The only thing The Learning Channel is learning us is how farked up and crazy people are in the world.
 
2010-06-11 09:20:39 AM  

brigid_fitch: My problem with the Hoarders show is that they're pretty much making money off some people with serious psychological issues.


Agreed. I will watch T&T, though. It's not about the kids, it's about the farked-up parents. I'm glad they're documenting the parents' hideous behavior (3 Red Bulls in a sippy cup before going on becuse it keeps her girl's energy up?) so the kids can use the footage in lawsuits for later in life.
 
2010-06-11 11:06:50 AM  

sandn8r9: TLC is horrible as a whole, but I will admit that I enjoy What Not to Wear. I love when they go through people's closets of dreadful '80s clothes.

I should go to Goodwill, spend about $100 buying a crap ton of ugly clothes, pretend like I actually wear them, and have one of my friends nominate me. Then, I'd get $5000 for a new wardrobe.

Is it sad that I've thought about doing this?


No. I was plotting something similar until I realized the new clothes wouldn't be worth fighting the hair stylist who would probably want to cut my hair. Not gonna happen.
 
2010-06-11 11:24:54 AM  

sandn8r9: TLC is horrible as a whole, but I will admit that I enjoy What Not to Wear. I love when they go through people's closets of dreadful '80s clothes.

I should go to Goodwill, spend about $100 buying a crap ton of ugly clothes, pretend like I actually wear them, and have one of my friends nominate me. Then, I'd get $5000 for a new wardrobe.

Is it sad that I've thought about doing this?


me too!
 
2010-06-11 11:52:28 AM  
4) Little People, Big World/The Little Couple:

Little People, Big World - Self indulgant whiners that always complain about how the world is unfair to them, and never miss an opportunity to complain how the world is not (but should be) built to accommodate their needs.

The Little Couple - Normal people who happen to be midgets. The guy in that show comes off as pretty cool (he jokes about his height, and has self confidence). She has worked her way into being a doctor. These people shouldn't have their own TV show on the premise that they are normal, and boring, people that happen to be short.

In summary - Little People, Big World can EABOD and DIAF. The Little Couple can put you into a coma. They should not be considered the same show.
 
2010-06-11 02:06:03 PM  

tdyak: 4) Little People, Big World/The Little Couple:

Little People, Big World - Self indulgant whiners that always complain about how the world is unfair to them, and never miss an opportunity to complain how the world is not (but should be) built to accommodate their needs.

The Little Couple - Normal people who happen to be midgets. The guy in that show comes off as pretty cool (he jokes about his height, and has self confidence). She has worked her way into being a doctor. These people shouldn't have their own TV show on the premise that they are normal, and boring, people that happen to be short.

In summary - Little People, Big World can EABOD and DIAF. The Little Couple can put you into a coma. They should not be considered the same show.


Just put them together and call it "Midgets Doing Stuff"
 
2010-06-12 09:22:21 AM  
Oh, come ON people! Reddit even has a r/jailbait page now, without apologies, they tell you to shut up about it.
Get over it. Perv is mainstream.
 
2010-06-13 01:30:26 PM  
I do get a kick out of Say Yes To The Dress...

I enjoy looking at the (some of them) beautiful fantasy dresses...

Think Randy once mentioned that he was Miss Gay America some years back...
If so, then I caught his act as Marilyn Monroe at the Queen Mary nightclub in Southern Cal.
DAYUM...

Some of the most stunnigly beautiful 'women' I've ever seen have been men.
 
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