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(Uproxx)   TLC's Top 5 most disturbing series. "There's really no good excuse for why you should ever be watching Toddlers & Tiaras, unless you're listening to 'Goodbye Horses' and building a skin suit in your basement"   (uproxx.com) divider line 191
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2010-06-10 11:07:06 AM  
Not on TLC, but "I'm pregnant and..." beats everything on this list.
 
2010-06-10 11:08:08 AM  
Has anybody seen the big bad wolf dance clip from Little Miss Perfect often featured on the Soup? It is quite disturbing on so many levels.
 
2010-06-10 11:08:18 AM  
I loved Rich's supercut of pageant Moms from Toddlers & Tiaras miming to their kids from the audience over at fourfour:

It's like an old-fashioned freak show right in your living room.
 
2010-06-10 11:09:03 AM  
brigid_fitch: Quasar: Thanks, reality television. I'd hate actually going to the Learning channel to learn, or the History channel to see history, or the SciFi channel to see sci fi. Dodged a bullet there.

Remember when the Discovery Channel was just the "Bird & Bug Channel"? When they would show actual nature documentaries? Good times, good times...


To be fair, I am discovering that I hate it.
 
2010-06-10 11:09:22 AM  
Noobian Noob: Phil Herup: Noobian Noob: hoarders is by far one of the most scariest things on tv

also the people with half a body, half a body and pregnant, tree bark for arms, no face, exploding skin, etc.

where the F does TLC find these people and why do they think i want to watch their agony?

Have you ever seen "Monsters Inside Me?"

no. i see the show's listing and that was enough for me.

i do, however, watch that fat black family sometimes. the son is totally gay.


That's a real show!? I saw that once and thought it was just a rerun of Big Momma's House.
 
2010-06-10 11:10:42 AM  
I sometimes get a kick out of trainwreck TV (and I love fidgets) but other then watching "The Little People" once by force I can't imagine watching any of those shows voluntarily. When I see a commercial for Toddlers & Tiaras on a different station I feel the need to take a shower even after the 3 seconds it takes to find the remote & change the channel.

However, I seem to remember seeing a show with fidgets making chocolate which for some reason had the right blend of trainwreck & fidgetdom to keep me interested. Maybe its the Oompa Loompa factor and fond memories of Willie Wonka. I only found it because the TV was on when I woke up, and only saw 2 episonds. Anyone else ever seen that?
 
2010-06-10 11:11:08 AM  
OK, I agree Toddler's N Tiaras is the bottom, but have you seen My Super Sweet 16 on MTV?
 
2010-06-10 11:15:19 AM  
brigid_fitch: Hoarders is on A&E and I agree, it's one of the scarier things out there. The scariest, though, is TLC's Hoarders rip-off, "Buried Alive". THAT one deals more w/the disease than just the clean-up. It's much more disturbing to actually see a hoarder's mental processes. It's just amazing to watch them try to figure out why the average person would WANT to throw away 3-yo cream cheese or, when presented w/a dessicated cat carcass that was buried under 5 feet of trash, blame the cat for getting trapped there.

I minored in psychology and STILL can't wrap my head around hoarders' mentality.


I can understand it, but you have to take it away from a modern cultural concept. Think about it as the middle ages. People who scrimped, saved and hoarded could survive when others could not. They had what they had and therefore were better off.

Unfortunately, now a days, we don't need seven boxes of Barbie Heads, because your Aunt gave you one in 1983 and she died of breast cancer, and if you throw away one you'll throw her away and get breast cancer.

/ok that part of hoarding I don't get...but the hoarding in general I get
 
2010-06-10 11:16:02 AM  
We don't have cable and I have never seen any of these shows and I'm happy about it.
 
2010-06-10 11:16:15 AM  
Phil Herup: Noobian Noob: hoarders is by far one of the most scariest things on tv

also the people with half a body, half a body and pregnant, tree bark for arms, no face, exploding skin, etc.

where the F does TLC find these people and why do they think i want to watch their agony?

Have you ever seen "Monsters Inside Me?"


Parasitology is awesome. It's wonderful to see their animations on how the parasites work, too. Mmm, Cerebral Amebosis.

I'll add to this list:

Trauma: Life in the ER
Mystery Diagnosis
Dr G. Medical Examiner
Untold Stories of the ER

No longer on:
Autopsy
Paramedics: Life on the Street (One of the shows that inspired me to become a paramedic)
The Operation (Old surgery show that showed actual surgeries being performed with voiceovers to explain why and what they were doing)
 
2010-06-10 11:20:05 AM  
brigid_fitch: Quasar: Thanks, reality television. I'd hate actually going to the Learning channel to learn, or the History channel to see history, or the SciFi channel to see sci fi. Dodged a bullet there.

Remember when the Discovery Channel was just the "Bird & Bug Channel"? When they would show actual nature documentaries? Good times, good times...


Hey, I like "discovering" how things explode.
 
2010-06-10 11:21:37 AM  
It's a terrifying program, period and surprisingly, once again, the show's title lets you know exactly what is going on here

They let anbody write on the internet. If you use the word period in that context don't you have to put a period after it?
 
2010-06-10 11:22:08 AM  
Kyosuke [TotalFark] Quote 2010-06-10 10:47:00 AM
The Learning Channel.

I learned not to watch it.


'Nice' with a *golf clap*.
 
2010-06-10 11:24:22 AM  
brigid_fitch: I minored in psychology and STILL can't wrap my head around hoarders' mentality.

My mother is a hoarder, and even I have problems figuring it all out. Of course, she's not as bad as the ones you see on TV, but that's partly because she's never lived alone, and my dad can only take so much before he goes on a cleaning rampage. She also isn't inclined to hang onto food (or dead animals).

Part of it is that they know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Those shower curtain rings she bought in '89 have long been replaced, but she paid $1.50 for them, and throwing them out would be like throwing $1.50 away. She's got the stacks newspapers, because by God, they've been paying for subscriptions for all these years, and she'll feel ripped off if she doesn't read every single word of them.

She wants to get every last bit of value out of everything she owns, even if that means hanging on to mountains of threadbare clothing in case the kids (and now that we're all grown up, the theoretical grandkids, who I assure her I would never allow in her wreck of a house) want to play dress up. She's got brand new sheet sets, picked up on sale or received as a gift, chucked into the unfinished (for 30 years) upstairs bathroom, waiting for the day she sheets she's used for the past 20 years wear out entirely.

The upstairs bathroom is a perfect example, actually. We were a family of 4 (2 daughters) living in a smallish house with a single bathroom. We could have had a second bathroom, which would have made everyone's lives easier, but her collection of old shower curtain rings and broken plastic toys and newspapers and ratty old towels piled up was more important than 2 people being able to pee at the same time. In a moment of panic, she once told me that an ancient lawn chair was more important to her than I was.

I'm going home to visit the summer, and in a fit of generosity, my mother emailed to offer to cover the cost of a hotel room. I thought it was a bit odd, but again, the house is small, and I'm sure she's used to not tripping over people any more. The real reason uncovered itself eventually. My sister still lives near home and sent me a picture of my old bedroom. It's crammed wall to wall with junk.
 
2010-06-10 11:25:37 AM  
Just got my first invitation to put my daughter in a pageant. It went straight in the trash. I spend enough on ballet lessons so she can live the life I wanted as a child.
 
2010-06-10 11:26:21 AM  
FTA:

The crazy gets better though for those of you brave enough to venture on over to the Duggar families own website where you get to learn the origin story of how the wolf-pack got started.

Knock-knock.

Who's there?

God will smite you.

God will smite you who?

HAVE A GIANT FAMILY!!!


What REALLY happened:

Nudge, nudge

Not tonight, dear. I have a headache.

Did you hear that? God just told me we need to make as many babies as possible starting right now!

Well... I guess if God says so.
 
2010-06-10 11:26:47 AM  
summerjack: It's a terrifying program, period and surprisingly, once again, the show's title lets you know exactly what is going on here

They let anbody write on the internet. If you use the word period in that context don't you have to put a period after it?


Reading, that, sentence, from, the, article, is, the, verbal, equivalent, of, driving, on, a, road, consisting, of, nothing, but, interconnected, speed, bumps.
 
2010-06-10 11:27:15 AM  
humandrive: Benevolent Misanthrope: 1) 19 Kids and Counting
2) Toddlers & Tiaras:
3) I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant
4) Little People, Big World/The Little Couple
5) Jon & Kate Plus Eight

They just listed my wife's favorite shows.


I'll just leave this here...

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2010-06-10 11:27:22 AM  
i46.tinypic.com

Approve!
 
2010-06-10 11:27:29 AM  
I watched about 10 seconds of it. Frightened the crap out of me. The big teeth caps scared the absolute hell of me.

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2010-06-10 11:27:30 AM  
AbbeySomeone: We don't have cable and I have never seen any of these shows and I'm happy about it.

I'm better than you. Not only do I not have cable or a TV, but I also don't have a computer or an internet connection and have never actually used the internet. I'm better than you.
 
2010-06-10 11:28:57 AM  
namegoeshere: I cannot see a commercial for Toddlers and Tiaras and not think of JonBenet.

Creepiest. Show. Evar.


Legal child porn. Nothing less.
 
2010-06-10 11:29:31 AM  
Little Miss Sunshine made me laugh and laugh and laugh.
 
2010-06-10 11:30:07 AM  
vinnydoz007: Now frankly, im not gonna sit here and tell people what to do with their children. But no way in farking hell, would i ever let my daughter be in a beauty pagent. Lifes enough of a beauty pagent already. We dont have to make it official. Plus I for one would like my daughter to focus, on well, just about anything else besides this nonsense. I want to say it makes me sick, but at the very least, it disturbs me deeply.

My mother put me in one at the local mall once when I was very young (just old enough to barely remember it) thinking that it might be interesting - a way for me to meet other girls my age, and give me an excuse to dress up in cute little dresses, which I loved to do. Afterward, my mother was ready to run screaming from these people. Even at a young age, I found the way a lot of these kids were treated by their parents disturbing... We never thought about ever doing that again.

My cousin tried doing a beauty pageant for a scholarship a few years back, couldn't deal with the other girls there and left after less than a day.

/Occasionally turn on Toddlers and Tiaras to watch the train wreck
//and to remind myself that, no matter how bad my parents irritated me, it could have been worse
 
2010-06-10 11:31:57 AM  
SueDisco: TVGasm does amazing recaps of Toddlers & Tiaras. I don't watch the show, but I do read the recaps. Holy snark.

I misread the headline for "19 Kids and Counting: FTW" as "19 Kids and Counting: FML." Much more appropriate.


Just read one of those recaps and holy hell.
 
2010-06-10 11:34:33 AM  
I would like to see a show about midgets with multiples that enter their children in pageants.
 
2010-06-10 11:34:48 AM  
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I'm curious if anything like this ever came on the show? Talk about turd in the punch bowl.
 
2010-06-10 11:36:01 AM  
Psumek: I can understand it, but you have to take it away from a modern cultural concept. Think about it as the middle ages. People who scrimped, saved and hoarded could survive when others could not. They had what they had and therefore were better off.

Unfortunately, now a days, we don't need seven boxes of Barbie Heads, because your Aunt gave you one in 1983 and she died of breast cancer, and if you throw away one you'll throw her away and get breast cancer.

/ok that part of hoarding I don't get...but the hoarding in general I get


I don't think it's a throwback to less civilized times where resources were scarce. That would account for SOME hoarding but not trying to navigate around towers of filth every day. From what I understand, there seems to be some connection to OCD, but that's not true for all cases.

Hoarders seem to break down into 2 categories: The one you describe, where an item is a tangible memory & throwing it away would mean throwing away the memory and perhaps even a piece of the person you're remembering. The other is the "savior"--an item has been discarded by someone else and the hoarder considers it perfectly usable (despite what condition it might actually be in) & only he/she can find that perfect use.
 
2010-06-10 11:36:23 AM  
ttintagel: I loved Rich's supercut of pageant Moms from Toddlers & Tiaras miming to their kids from the audience over at fourfour:

It's like an old-fashioned freak show right in your living room.


lol, the dad (I'm assuming/hoping) at 1:21 is awesome.
 
2010-06-10 11:38:52 AM  
brigid_fitch:

I minored in psychology and STILL can't wrap my head around hoarders' mentality.


I have to threaten 2-3 people a month with eviction because of hoarding. I have one tenant with three kids, one of whom is handicapped, and her house was so full you couldn't get to any window or the back door. There was a narrow path through the house, everything else was piled with stuff. When we made her clean it up they filled 3 large garbage bins (20' long by 7' high). Her place is still too full, but livable (barely).
 
2010-06-10 11:40:49 AM  
brigid_fitch: Quasar: Thanks, reality television. I'd hate actually going to the Learning channel to learn, or the History channel to see history, or the SciFi channel to see sci fi. Dodged a bullet there.

Remember when the Discovery Channel was just the "Bird & Bug Channel"? When they would show actual nature documentaries? Good times, good times...


Two of my favorite Discovery shows from the 90s was Movie Magic (where they showed you behind the scenes behind filming special and/or visual effects shots) and Beyond 2000 (that Aussie technology show, even if some of what they showed had already become common place). Discovery has always been more about animal documentaries (admittedly I do miss seeing those). Nonetheless I think Discovery's about the only one of those channels that's consistently worth watching.
 
2010-06-10 11:42:56 AM  
precia: brigid_fitch: I minored in psychology and STILL can't wrap my head around hoarders' mentality.

My mother is a hoarder, and even I have problems figuring it all out. Of course, she's not as bad as the ones you see on TV, but that's partly because she's never lived alone, and my dad can only take so much before he goes on a cleaning rampage. She also isn't inclined to hang onto food (or dead animals).

Part of it is that they know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Those shower curtain rings she bought in '89 have long been replaced, but she paid $1.50 for them, and throwing them out would be like throwing $1.50 away. She's got the stacks newspapers, because by God, they've been paying for subscriptions for all these years, and she'll feel ripped off if she doesn't read every single word of them.

She wants to get every last bit of value out of everything she owns, even if that means hanging on to mountains of threadbare clothing in case the kids (and now that we're all grown up, the theoretical grandkids, who I assure her I would never allow in her wreck of a house) want to play dress up. She's got brand new sheet sets, picked up on sale or received as a gift, chucked into the unfinished (for 30 years) upstairs bathroom, waiting for the day she sheets she's used for the past 20 years wear out entirely.

The upstairs bathroom is a perfect example, actually. We were a family of 4 (2 daughters) living in a smallish house with a single bathroom. We could have had a second bathroom, which would have made everyone's lives easier, but her collection of old shower curtain rings and broken plastic toys and newspapers and ratty old towels piled up was more important than 2 people being able to pee at the same time. In a moment of panic, she once told me that an ancient lawn chair was more important to her than I was.

I'm going home to visit the summer, and in a fit of generosity, my mother emailed to offer to cover the cost of a hotel room. I thought it was a bit odd, but again, the house is small, and I'm sure she's used to not tripping over people any more. The real reason uncovered itself eventually. My sister still lives near home and sent me a picture of my old bedroom. It's crammed wall to wall with junk.


Seriously, cool story, sis. I feel so bad for you having to grow up like that. This is a new category I haven't seen on TV, though--hanging onto stuff because dammit, I paid for it and it's not going to waste! But still, shower curtain rings? So bizarre. I wonder what she would do if you suggested she sell them on Craigslist or something? Maybe even tell her she could absolutely get her $1.50 back on those rings. I wonder if she'd consider it.
 
2010-06-10 11:44:13 AM  
my grandpa was a hoarder, garage sales were his weakness.
 
2010-06-10 11:47:09 AM  
There's really no good excuse for why you should ever be watching Toddlers & Tiaras, unless you're listening to 'Goodbye Horses' and building a skin suit in your basement TLC.

FTFY


mechgreg: H31N0US: I'm at a loss regarding what we are supposed to be "learning" by watching The Learning Channel".

Somewhere along the line, their program directors lost the plot.

I really wish they would go back to science and learning shows. I guess maybe they can't or don't want to compete with Discovery. Which is too bad because the Connections series with James Burke kicked all kinds of ass.


Why did you have to remind me of Connections? That show was awesome and seeing what's become of the channel that once aired it just pisses me off.
 
2010-06-10 11:48:30 AM  
What's the breakdown on genders for the viewership for these shows? I'm guessing it's 4/5 female. So why is that, why do women like this stuff?
 
2010-06-10 11:48:31 AM  
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I wouldn't roloff the biggun.
 
2010-06-10 11:50:43 AM  
brigid_fitch: Hoarders seem to break down into 2 categories: The one you describe, where an item is a tangible memory & throwing it away would mean throwing away the memory and perhaps even a piece of the person you're remembering.

This is where I struggle. My mom loved to buy me gifts, clothes mostly, which were not my style and which I don't wear. Every time I clean my closet, I think I should get rid of them all. They are of no use to me.

But then I realize that there will never, ever be another gift to me from my mom, who has since passed. And I stuff them right back there in the closet to gather dust and take up space.

*sniff*

I draw the line at spoiled food and dead pets, though. Ick.
 
2010-06-10 11:51:59 AM  
I haven't seen Hoarders or Toddlers and Tiaras, outside of clips on The Soup, but I'm still not under the impression that it's more disturbing than Toddlers and Tiaras. There at least seems to be a method to the madness of hoarders, but the parents in Toddlers and Tiaras are a special kind of farked up.
 
2010-06-10 11:55:53 AM  
Tyrosine: brigid_fitch:

I minored in psychology and STILL can't wrap my head around hoarders' mentality.

I have to threaten 2-3 people a month with eviction because of hoarding. I have one tenant with three kids, one of whom is handicapped, and her house was so full you couldn't get to any window or the back door. There was a narrow path through the house, everything else was piled with stuff. When we made her clean it up they filled 3 large garbage bins (20' long by 7' high). Her place is still too full, but livable (barely).


I accuse my husband of being a hoarder but he's nowhere near that level. He has crap from HS (he graduated in 1982)--school newspapers, notes, doodles, his prom glass--that he just won't part with. The room we use as our office only has a tiny pathway from the door to the desk. The trunk of his car is like an archeological site--as you sift through the strata of trash, you'll eventually get to 2002 when he originally bought the car. And if I clean anything up, it's Defcon 1. When he couldn't find a pair of glass bookends one day, he accused me of throwing them away (I didn't) and was so mad, he stayed at a hotel that night. Just to calm him down, I went on eBay & bought an identical set. 2 days after they arrived, I found the originals buried under a pile of paperbacks. And I took great glee in smashing the eBay pair w/a sledgehammer right in front of him.
 
2010-06-10 11:57:18 AM  
brigid_fitch: I accuse my husband of being a hoarder but he's nowhere near that level. He has crap from HS (he graduated in 1982)--school newspapers, notes, doodles, his prom glass-

sounds like you got sand in an uncomfortable spot, so what the dude wants to hang on to some of his stuff from high school
 
2010-06-10 11:59:15 AM  
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: What's the breakdown on genders for the viewership for these shows? I'm guessing it's 4/5 female. So why is that, why do women like this stuff?

Even further, you should break it down by age and location. Typically urban women in their 20s watch Bravo for Project Runway, House Wives, or watch the Wedding planning shows or home decorating. Women who are older, have children, live int he suburbs or rural areas would likely tend to watch Toddlers or Kate + 8 and the like.

Also, as a cousin of someone who didn't know she was pregnant, yes this kind of thing does happen. She was going through the police academy during much of the pregnancy. She's 6ft and 190lbs, athletic, and was also on a local softball team. She didn't have morning sickness and apparently she was spotting heavily enough to think she was still having a period, which was inconsistent to begin w/. It wasn't until she was having a full physical and submitted a urine test did she find out. The baby also positioned himself towards the back and up so she never looked pregnant and after ultrasounds and talking to the OB, they determined she was 7 months along. A month later she birthed an 11 lb monster in the back of an ambulance.

Her second pregnancy caused her to vomit for 3 weeks, have no period at all, and her belly stuck out by the 3rd month and that one was only a 7 pounder.
 
2010-06-10 11:59:24 AM  
Quasar: Thanks, reality television. I'd hate actually going to the Learning channel to learn, or the History channel to see history, or the SciFi channel to see sci fi. Dodged a bullet there.

Don't forget going to Arts & Entertainment (A&E) to see arts and entertainment.
 
2010-06-10 12:00:27 PM  
Joking aside, the Duggars really shouldn't be on that list. Is it bizarre that they have 19 kids? Uh, yes, and then some. Do they indoctrinate their kids with some freaky shiat religious nonsense? Of course. However...they're also really good parents. They do a better job raising their kids to be kind, respectful, and even, bizarrely, non-judgmental, than most people with one or two children do. The kids appear intellectually curious (apart from some of the Quiverfull movement and creationism stuff they sometimes talk about), do all of their chores, never hurt each other physically or emotionally, and in general appear really happy.

They're actually a lot like the Flanders family. Sure, everyone makes fun of Ned for being so white-bread and lame, but over the first ten years or so of the show, when was he anything other than a good friend and neighbor to the Simpsons*?

*- I exclude the last decade, when the show decided to throw away all nuance, pushing every person to the absolute limit of his or her character stereotype and making Ned into a right-wing nut who thinks everyone is going to hell.
 
2010-06-10 12:00:42 PM  
lunarworks: Quasar: Thanks, reality television. I'd hate actually going to the Learning channel to learn, or the History channel to see history, or the SciFi channel to see sci fi. Dodged a bullet there.

Don't forget going to Arts & Entertainment (A&E) to see arts and entertainment.


Thank god for Dog the Bounty Hunter.
 
2010-06-10 12:00:49 PM  
TLC =
www.vintagesideshowbanners.com

/hot as Paige Davis
 
2010-06-10 12:01:36 PM  
KatjaMouse: I'm curious if anything like this ever came on the show? Talk about turd in the punch bowl.

There have been a couple of times where "natural" girls (those without tanner, hair pieces, false lashes, and false teeth called flippers) enter into "glitz" pageants and they almost always lose. The opposite of that happens as well.

/I swear I only watch T&T from time to time to learn how NOT to be a mother.
//One lady was giving her daughter tons of energy drink because she wasn't energetic enough for the stage. WTF?!
 
2010-06-10 12:02:16 PM  
Grey Street: *- I exclude the last decade, when the show decided to throw away all nuance, pushing every person to the absolute limit of his or her character stereotype and making Ned into a right-wing nut who thinks everyone is going to hell.

In all fairness if you had to live next door to Homer Simpson for 20+ years you'd lose all faith in humanity too.
 
2010-06-10 12:02:50 PM  
whenever i think of these crap reality shows and glad that i don't have to watch it, i imagine all of those camera men, all of those editors that have to watch that drivel day in day out...
 
2010-06-10 12:04:21 PM  
Virulency: whenever i think of these crap reality shows and glad that i don't have to watch it, i imagine all of those camera men, all of those editors that have to watch that drivel day in day out...

I'm thinking the $$$$$$ helps with their pain.
 
2010-06-10 12:06:03 PM  
Animal Planet is getting just as bad. Either reality shows, or sensational crap about animals attacking people. Bring back "Emergency Vets", or even the various animal cop shows!
 
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