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(Chicago Tribune)   Blagojevich lawyers file last minute motion to exclude the wiretaps of him plotting crimes by arguing that the government shouldn't "criminalize free speech"   (chicagobreakingnews.com) divider line 91
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2010-06-08 11:17:31 AM
I think as a lawyer, that man should realize the legal precedent that defense would set would directly lead to about two million appeals all over the country. Everyone in prison on racketeering, extortion, blackmail, criminal threats...
 
2010-06-08 11:27:34 AM
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2010-06-08 11:27:43 AM
kingoomieiii: I think as a lawyer, that man should realize the legal precedent that defense would set would directly lead to about two million appeals all over the country. Everyone in prison on racketeering, extortion, blackmail, criminal threats...

Then he'd have an ARMY OF MINIONS!
 
2010-06-08 11:30:31 AM
Bad_ad85: kingoomieiii: I think as a lawyer, that man should realize the legal precedent that defense would set would directly lead to about two million appeals all over the country. Everyone in prison on racketeering, extortion, blackmail, criminal threats...

Then he'd have an ARMY OF MINIONS!


You know, I've always wondered where evil geniuses get their armies.

Turns out they just need a good lawyer.
 
2010-06-08 11:52:54 AM
kingoomieiii: Bad_ad85: kingoomieiii: I think as a lawyer, that man should realize the legal precedent that defense would set would directly lead to about two million appeals all over the country. Everyone in prison on racketeering, extortion, blackmail, criminal threats...

Then he'd have an ARMY OF MINIONS!

You know, I've always wondered where evil geniuses get their armies.

Turns out they just need a good lawyer.


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Has to kill you now.

/You must verk harder!
 
2010-06-08 11:54:35 AM
kingoomieiii: I think as a lawyer, that man should realize the legal precedent that defense would set would directly lead to about two million appeals all over the country. Everyone in prison on racketeering, extortion, blackmail, criminal threats...

Blago would fark his mother's corpse on pay-per-view if it would keep him out of jail. None of his grandstanding surprises me.
 
2010-06-08 12:01:11 PM
Blagojevich Blagojevich, Blagojevich. Blagojevich.
 
2010-06-08 12:02:22 PM
You can plot crimes all you want. You should start now.
 
2010-06-08 12:02:30 PM
This guy is the interesting combination of scummy and delusional.
 
2010-06-08 12:02:30 PM
Wait... what?
 
2010-06-08 12:04:10 PM
madmann: Has to kill you now.

/You must verk harder!


I would really love to play a sequel to that.
 
2010-06-08 12:04:30 PM
This is what we call a "Hail Mary" or "complete bullshiat" in the legal profession. I understand making the best argument you can for your client but this is approaching sanctionable conduct.
 
2010-06-08 12:07:01 PM
Is the judge allowed to laugh out loud? Is that considered bad form?
 
2010-06-08 12:07:46 PM
Uh, what? The speech isn't being criminalized. The speech is evidence that crimes were (allegedly) committed.

You would think his overpaid lawyers would understand that. Hopefully, the judge doesn't take the motions seriously.
 
2010-06-08 12:07:53 PM
I guess his mistake was to *ASK* for it - rather than waiting for someone like oh, say Bill Clinton did for Joe Sestak....
 
2010-06-08 12:08:56 PM
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psychicmachinery

Blago would fark his mother's corpse on pay-per-view if it would keep him out of jail. None of his grandstanding surprises me.

I thought that was already a reality TV show.
 
2010-06-08 12:09:59 PM
The thing about Blago is that very few other politicians give more value for money in sheer entertainment value...
 
2010-06-08 12:10:41 PM
Solon Isonomia: This is what we call a "Hail Mary" or "complete bullshiat" in the legal profession. I understand making the best argument you can for your client but this is approaching sanctionable conduct.

This.
 
2010-06-08 12:11:41 PM
Solon Isonomia: This is what we call a "Hail Mary" or "complete bullshiat" in the legal profession. I understand making the best argument you can for your client but this is approaching sanctionable conduct.

The judge ought to call the lawyers one-by-one into the courtroom and ask "did you seriously think this defense would work?"

For each lawyer's answer:
Yes: Disbar the lawyer for stupidity
No: Hold for 168 hours (7 days) in contempt for wasting the court's time.
 
2010-06-08 12:12:20 PM
fifthhorseman: madmann: Has to kill you now.

/You must verk harder!

I would really love to play a sequel to that.


I know. With all the bullshiat they serialize, I can't believe they never made a sequel for that. Not enough cartoony, goofy RTS games.
 
2010-06-08 12:12:50 PM
Solon Isonomia: This is what we call a "Hail Mary" or "complete bullshiat" in the legal profession. I understand making the best argument you can for your client but this is approaching sanctionable conduct.

yeah, you'd be hard pressed to say that this is a good faith argument. Unless the lawyer genuinely thinks all speech is free in which case he probably should have never gotten his degree
 
2010-06-08 12:13:19 PM
Bad_ad85: Then he'd have an ARMY OF MINIONS!
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kingoomieiii: You know, I've always wondered where evil geniuses get their armies.

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2010-06-08 12:15:24 PM
Solon Isonomia: This is what we call a "Hail Mary" or "complete bullshiat" in the legal profession. I understand making the best argument you can for your client but this is approaching sanctionable conduct.

The Taitz Strategm.
 
2010-06-08 12:16:48 PM
After the bailout, Blagojevich threatened to pull 2 billion of the state of Illinois' money out of Bank Of America, because the bank was not making loans to small businesses. The next day, Blago is in cuffs.

Who isn't corrupt in politics?
 
2010-06-08 12:19:14 PM
Eapoe6: After the bailout, Blagojevich threatened to pull 2 billion of the state of Illinois' money out of Bank Of America, because the bank was not making loans to small businesses. The next day, Blago is in cuffs.

Who isn't corrupt in politics?


Given the sheer number of people involved in politics, there's probably at least one person who hasn't yet been corrupted by the system, but it would be like finding a clean needle in the trash bin of a New Jersey crack house.
 
2010-06-08 12:20:17 PM
If they were legal wiretaps, forget it. Why would he want to hide the content of his phone calls anyway if he's not a criminal?
 
2010-06-08 12:23:02 PM
j0ndas: If they were legal wiretaps, forget it. Why would he want to hide the content of his phone calls anyway if he's not a criminal?

as usual, it's only wrong when liberals do it

/never trust a vich.
 
TWX
2010-06-08 12:24:24 PM
wage0448:
For each lawyer's answer Yes: Disbar the lawyer for stupidity No: Hold for 168 hours (7 days) in contempt for wasting the court's time


Yeah, but try getting a "yes" or "no" out of a lawyer. They'll probably go on some tangent about other cases with odd lawyers (OJ?), or how as the representative of the client they are required to follow the dictates of that client however absurd, or how as a member of a team attempting to provide legal advise they're not wholly able to dictate the terms of the motions personally (the "group did it over my silent objection" defense), or some other bizarre argument that a lawyer could concoct.

Better to just hold them in contempt for what they've already said without giving them an avenue to defend it, give 'em a few days for it, and don't reschedule the trial other than to not actually put them in jail during it. Or, better yet, to reduce the number of arguments for appeal (ie, my defense team was prevented from their jobs because the judge held them in jail when they should have been working on my case!) Hold them in contempt after the ruling is handed down.
 
2010-06-08 12:25:16 PM
If When Blago is eventually convicted, that would mean 4 of Illinois' last 8 governors served jail time for political corruption.

Woo! Batting .500!
 
2010-06-08 12:29:03 PM
j0ndas: If they were legal wiretaps, forget it. Why would he want to hide the content of his phone calls anyway if he's not a criminal?

Because those phone calls are farking golden, and he's not going to let you listen to them for farking nothing.
 
2010-06-08 12:33:38 PM
wage0048: Solon Isonomia: This is what we call a "Hail Mary" or "complete bullshiat" in the legal profession. I understand making the best argument you can for your client but this is approaching sanctionable conduct.

The judge ought to call the lawyers one-by-one into the courtroom and ask "did you seriously think this defense would work?"

For each lawyer's answer:
Yes: Disbar the lawyer for stupidity
No: Hold for 168 hours (7 days) in contempt for wasting the court's time.


I still don't get how or why a lawyer can attempt to rationalize this as not being a breech of ethics to support. Aren't all lawyers required to state that they will uphold ethics when admitted via the bar?

"hey, this is evidence that was lawfully obtained. let's fight against it saying that it's unconstitutional".
 
2010-06-08 12:34:06 PM
Gordian Cipher: If When Blago is eventually convicted, that would mean 4 of Illinois' last 8 governors served jail time for political corruption.

Woo! Batting .500!


Still waiting to see if the other idiot politicians from Illinois do some time.
 
2010-06-08 12:34:34 PM
Motion denied because of blatant stupidity. Next motion.
 
TWX
2010-06-08 12:35:52 PM
Eapoe6:
After the bailout, Blagojevich threatened to pull 2 billion of the state of Illinois money out of Bank Of America, because the bank was not making loans to smal businesses. The next day, Blago is in cuffs. Who isn't corrupt in politics?

Good actions on the part of someone in power or with some kind of special status shouldn't offset bad actions to an extent. He very well may have threatened to hurt the bank's business for a legitimate reason, but that doesn't excuse his attempting to sell a Senate seat for profit.

The doctor who probably killed Michael Jackson saved a woman on an airplane who probably would have died if he hadn't intervened. The good doctor should still face trial, and if convicted, any good works by him should come to light in sentencing, or possibly to convict him of a lesser crime (2nd degree manslaughter instead of 1st, for example), but not to excuse him from prosecution entirely.

Blago could have taken all of the homeless and all of the worst of the poor and brought their living conditions up to at least Motel-6 standards and he still should see prosecution for his corruption charge.
 
2010-06-08 12:41:33 PM
TWX: wage0448:
For each lawyer's answer Yes: Disbar the lawyer for stupidity No: Hold for 168 hours (7 days) in contempt for wasting the court's time


Yeah, but try getting a "yes" or "no" out of a lawyer. They'll probably go on some tangent about other cases with odd lawyers (OJ?), or how as the representative of the client they are required to follow the dictates of that client however absurd, or how as a member of a team attempting to provide legal advise they're not wholly able to dictate the terms of the motions personally (the "group did it over my silent objection" defense), or some other bizarre argument that a lawyer could concoct.

Better to just hold them in contempt for what they've already said without giving them an avenue to defend it, give 'em a few days for it, and don't reschedule the trial other than to not actually put them in jail during it. Or, better yet, to reduce the number of arguments for appeal (ie, my defense team was prevented from their jobs because the judge held them in jail when they should have been working on my case!) Hold them in contempt after the ruling is handed down.


Good point. Hold them in contempt, but allow them access to phone, email, and (of course) their client. They just won't be allowed to leave the courthouse until the case has been decided.

\\They can then bill Blago for 24 hrs/day for the duration of the trial.
 
2010-06-08 12:41:33 PM
Wait a minute...isn't this the same guy that wanted to government to make the wiretap tapes public because the clips the government used were "cherry picked" and "out of context?"

Isn't this the same guy that said he wanted the full transcripts of those tapes entered into the record for his trial for the same reason?

Isn't this the same guy that said something to the effect of "let them wiretap me all they want?"

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. He's all bluster in front of a camera, but when it gets down to the brass tacks of the issue, he knows he's toast.

What a bonehead.
 
2010-06-08 12:42:34 PM
Instead of a "My hair is a bird . . . " shoop, somebody needs to make one for Blaggo. Perhaps, "My hair is a tortoise, your argument is rejected"?

/got nuthin' else . . .
 
2010-06-08 12:44:07 PM
Jesus his lawyers are just as retarded as he is.
 
2010-06-08 12:49:03 PM
The guy is crooked as 90 year old woman's back and as subtle as a Guatemalan sinkhole, but god damn, you have to admire the giant swinging nuts on Bagojevich. He must have 57 balls.
 
2010-06-08 12:49:24 PM
pb-crunch: Solon Isonomia: This is what we call a "Hail Mary" or "complete bullshiat" in the legal profession. I understand making the best argument you can for your client but this is approaching sanctionable conduct.

This.


Yup. And you wonder why people hate lawyers. For every Erin Brockovich, there are 100 of these clowns. Until the system starts reprimanding this type of conduct the rampant asshattery throughout this profession will continue. The problem is, there is way too much money to be made and the only people to police the lawyers are...

LAWYERS! The fox is skullfarking every hen in the henhouse at this point.
 
2010-06-08 12:49:59 PM
Apparently skullf#cking slipped past the filters. My bad!
 
2010-06-08 12:50:48 PM
Nope, you got it. Nice work.
 
2010-06-08 12:53:02 PM
farkingatwork: I still don't get how or why a lawyer can attempt to rationalize this as not being a breech of ethics to support. Aren't all lawyers required to state that they will uphold ethics when admitted via the bar?

"hey, this is evidence that was lawfully obtained. let's fight against it saying that it's unconstitutional".


Yes, we all take an oath to follow ethics and to uphold the federal consitution and our respective state constitutions (and I take my oath seriously). Generally, attorneys can make losing arguments due under a good faith basis, but obviously there are exceptions when the argument is frivolous or a gross misstatement of the law. In this case, it might not be worthy of disbarrment or suspension, but these attorneys might be facing some fines in the near future.
 
TWX
2010-06-08 12:55:47 PM
wage0048:

Even better, lock them up with the client, so "access" is guaranteed and automatic...
 
2010-06-08 01:02:20 PM
psychicmachinery:

Blago would fark his mother's corpse on pay-per-view if it would keep him out of jail.

You may have hit his one soft spot. He's an absolute and notorious mama's boy, and would never do a thing to sully her sainted corpse. (Check out the old Chicago Magazine profile, "Governor Sunshine". It's fairly stunning.)

Eapoe6:

After the bailout, Blagojevich threatened to pull 2 billion of the state of Illinois' money out of Bank Of America, because the bank was not making loans to small businesses. The next day, Blago is in cuffs.

As someone who actually lived in Illinois for his first term and who was actively involved in public life sufficiently to get word when the FBI set up shop and began working to find something, anything to use to stop him, I can assure you that whatever conspiracy theory you're trying to get at there is utter nonsense. The senate seat was to Rod Blagojevich what tax returns were to Al Capone.

Blagojevich made dramatic populist promises every single day, most of which he had neither the authority nor the inclination to deliver, in a deliberate effort to distract and retain the admiration of morons. By the end, even that had stopped working, and any "threat" made to Bank of America had nothing to do with helping small businesses in Illinois: it had to do with those that made large contributions to the Blagojevich campaign and expected him to use public policy to extort big cash prizes for them, as he had throughout his entire time in office.

If anyone here wants to drink some Kool-Aid that badly, at least have the sense not to buy it from Blago.

Jubeebee:

Because those phone calls are farking golden, and he's not going to let you listen to them for farking nothing.

+1.
 
2010-06-08 01:03:25 PM
i like him. I'll say it. He's funny.
 
2010-06-08 01:04:05 PM
This is Fartbozos Bad Hair Day.
 
2010-06-08 01:08:30 PM
japlemon LAWYERS! The fox is skullfarking every hen in the henhouse at this point

Sorry, some of us foxes are fighting the skullfarking foxes.
 
2010-06-08 01:13:49 PM
How in the hell did someone who looks that goddamn goofy get elected in the first place?

seriously!
 
2010-06-08 01:15:40 PM
violentsalvation: How in the hell did someone who looks that goddamn goofy get elected in the first place?

seriously!


It's Illinois.
 
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