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(Tenth Amendment Center)   Just when you thought Arizona couldn't push any more of the federal government's buttons, it looks like America's 48th state may actually become the 15th state to adopt another very "controversial" law. This time - Weed   (tenthamendmentcenter.com ) divider line
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2010-06-07 03:51:10 PM  
um... this is for medical marijuana. The White House has already said it won't affect enforcement of Federal anti-marijuana laws in states that have legalized medical marijuana. Not sure how this pushes anyone's buttons.
 
2010-06-07 04:00:06 PM  
I guess they will have to open the border to imports from Mexico. Wait, is weed covered under NAFTA? If not, boy do I have a good idea for Mexico.
 
2010-06-07 04:03:27 PM  
What would her father who died fighting Nazi's in 1955 in California have thought of this?
 
2010-06-07 04:03:36 PM  

ra-ra-raw: I guess they will have to open the border to imports from Mexico. Wait, is weed covered under NAFTA? If not, boy do I have a good idea for Mexico.


people still smoke Mexican weed? domestic, Canadian, or GTFO.
 
2010-06-07 04:20:48 PM  
Out of curiosity...

Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?
 
2010-06-07 04:24:58 PM  
i live in AZ. i am an Army Contractor, unfortunately this won't do anything for me.

"people still smoke Mexican weed? domestic, Canadian, or GTFO."

for those us within 10 miles of the Mexican border, that's next to impossible. only the finest mexican brick down here.
 
2010-06-07 04:35:22 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?


I've been wondering about that too. My state doesn't have Mediweed, but we're looking into it. Actually, I wonder if it would be legal for them to fire/not hire you on that basis. Wouldn't that be like firing/hot hiring someone for medical issues, and hence, illegal?
 
2010-06-07 04:37:55 PM  

Aarontology: I've been wondering about that too. My state doesn't have Mediweed, but we're looking into it. Actually, I wonder if it would be legal for them to fire/not hire you on that basis. Wouldn't that be like firing/hot hiring someone for medical issues, and hence, illegal?


In California, the State Supreme Court has ruled that an employer can fire you for using medical marijuana. I believe this is because regardless of whether it's approved for use by the state, Federally it's still a Schedule I drug.
 
2010-06-07 04:38:30 PM  
Too much to hope this might calm the furor down there a bit?

/probably
//spark up, relax
 
2010-06-07 04:41:40 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: Out of curiosity...

Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?


If it's prescribed by a doctor for medical purposes, I don't see how they could fire someone it or deny employment. So I would guess they just tell them the truth and have the appropriate documentation.
 
2010-06-07 04:42:31 PM  

timujin: Aarontology: I've been wondering about that too. My state doesn't have Mediweed, but we're looking into it. Actually, I wonder if it would be legal for them to fire/not hire you on that basis. Wouldn't that be like firing/hot hiring someone for medical issues, and hence, illegal?

In California, the State Supreme Court has ruled that an employer can fire you for using medical marijuana. I believe this is because regardless of whether it's approved for use by the state, Federally it's still a Schedule I drug.


Then again I could be totally wrong
 
2010-06-07 04:47:16 PM  
CALIFORNIA NOVEMBER 2010!!!

LEGALIZED FOR ALL!!

SMOKE UP, JOHNNY!

love,

The Future
 
2010-06-07 04:48:24 PM  
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2010-06-07 04:48:53 PM  
Cool. Hopefully soon medical marijuana will approach the critical mass needed to prompt federal drug law reform. Even the farking DEA's studies have shown marijuana has therapeutic value, which means it doesn't meet the criteria for schedule 1.
 
2010-06-07 04:49:32 PM  
Considering the history behind the marijuana law history, I find it amusing that Arizona, of all states, are doing this.

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2010-06-07 04:49:36 PM  

YoMammaObama: CALIFORNIA NOVEMBER 2010!!!

LEGALIZED FOR ALL!!

SMOKE UP, JOHNNY!

love,

The Future


Dude, can I crash on your couch for like 3 months after they legalize it there?
 
2010-06-07 04:49:49 PM  
My wife:

1] Went through medical school (handy with a scalpel, loved cutting open bodies, good knowledge of anesthetics and drugs)
2] Used to work in construction (pretty strong)
3] Is Maori (genetically predisposed to cannibalism and eating enemies)

I'm somewhat careful about picking fights with her.
 
2010-06-07 04:50:22 PM  

timujin: um... this is for medical marijuana. The White House has already said it won't affect enforcement of Federal anti-marijuana laws in states that have legalized medical marijuana. Not sure how this pushes anyone's buttons.


And that's all fine and dandy until 2012 or four years after that when another administration comes in with a different view of it. These states are picking a fight with the federal government, and some tough on drugs president is going to come along soon enough to make that fight meaningful again.
 
2010-06-07 04:50:23 PM  

CrispFlows: Considering the history behind the marijuana law history, I find it amusing that Arizona, of all states, are doing this.


FTFM, What was I thinking?

/ Not stoned.
 
2010-06-07 04:50:47 PM  

mtylerjr: My wife:

1] Went through medical school (handy with a scalpel, loved cutting open bodies, good knowledge of anesthetics and drugs)
2] Used to work in construction (pretty strong)
3] Is Maori (genetically predisposed to cannibalism and eating enemies)

I'm somewhat careful about picking fights with her.


CSB
 
2010-06-07 04:51:11 PM  

Aarontology: Civil_War2_Time: Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?

I've been wondering about that too. My state doesn't have Mediweed, but we're looking into it. Actually, I wonder if it would be legal for them to fire/not hire you on that basis. Wouldn't that be like firing/hot hiring someone for medical issues, and hence, illegal?


I bet a lot of that would depend on your line of work. I mean you don't want stoned Jim operating the backhoe...
 
2010-06-07 04:51:41 PM  
this article brought to you by people who staunchly defend what they imagined the 10th amendment says.
 
2010-06-07 04:51:47 PM  
I'm from Arizona, so I'm getting a kick out of..... duuuuuude fark is so cooooooooool
 
2010-06-07 04:51:49 PM  
you ain't all bad, Arizona
 
2010-06-07 04:52:08 PM  
When will Arizona ban tacos and burritos for causing obesity?
 
2010-06-07 04:52:28 PM  
Dude, do NOT tell your employer. Just pass the test (it only stays in your system a max of 2 weeks, I passed one with only 13 days, no questions)

Telling your employer is only going to create unwanted controversy and can possibly, but not necessarily, get you fired.
 
2010-06-07 04:52:52 PM  

timujin: um... this is for medical marijuana. The White House has already said it won't affect enforcement of Federal anti-marijuana laws in states that have legalized medical marijuana. Not sure how this pushes anyone's buttons.


It may push the buttons of the next administration.
 
2010-06-07 04:53:00 PM  

sboyle1020: Aarontology: Civil_War2_Time: Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?

I've been wondering about that too. My state doesn't have Mediweed, but we're looking into it. Actually, I wonder if it would be legal for them to fire/not hire you on that basis. Wouldn't that be like firing/hot hiring someone for medical issues, and hence, illegal?

I bet a lot of that would depend on your line of work. I mean you don't want stoned Jim operating the backhoe...


You don't want drunk Jim operating a backhoe either, but you don't subject Jim to random tests that detect if he has drank alcohol in the last 90 days and then fire him if he fails them, regardless of when he drank. Hell, you don't even breathalyze him before he gets in the backhoe.
 
2010-06-07 04:53:13 PM  

mtylerjr: My wife:

1] Went through medical school (handy with a scalpel, loved cutting open bodies, good knowledge of anesthetics and drugs)
2] Used to work in construction (pretty strong)
3] Is Maori (genetically predisposed to cannibalism and eating enemies)

I'm somewhat careful about picking fights with her.


gamersmafia.com
 
2010-06-07 04:53:45 PM  

mtylerjr: My wife:

1] Went through medical school (handy with a scalpel, loved cutting open bodies, good knowledge of anesthetics and drugs)
2] Used to work in construction (pretty strong)
3] Is Maori (genetically predisposed to cannibalism and eating enemies)

I'm somewhat careful about picking fights with her.


LOLWUT?
 
2010-06-07 04:55:15 PM  
Permit qualifying patients or their caregivers to cultivate their own marijuana for medical use if a regulated medical marijuana clinic is not located within 25 miles of the qualifying patient.

Oooh that's a difficult term right there. Regulating supply with a 25mi radius? That's... difficult. I mean, say you'd been cultivating your own for years, on a fixed income, yada yada. Then a clinic opens up 20 mi away- suddenly your operation becomes illegal? Good reason to want to prevent regulated clinics from opening up!

I could see people moving operations to a cleverly situated location over 25 mi from any clinic. Even buying some land outside of town to set up a grow shack on. But it'll probably go by the location of your legally declared Primary Residence.
 
2010-06-07 04:55:17 PM  
Did you ever racially profile... on weed?
 
2010-06-07 04:55:43 PM  

Funk Brothers: When will Arizona ban tacos and burritos for causing obesity?


Jennifer Lopez does not approve.

/nor does Mitch Connor
//Taco Flavored kisses :-*
 
2010-06-07 04:55:53 PM  

timujin: um... this is for medical marijuana. The White House has already said it won't affect enforcement of Federal anti-marijuana laws in states that have legalized medical marijuana. Not sure how this pushes anyone's buttons.


This is from the Tenth Amendment Center (aka the Tea Party Legal Research Organization). Anything they like MUST therefor push federal buttons. Obviously. Otherwise, why would people donate money?

The Tenth Amendment Center is awesome. Great source for little gems like this: "It's true that federal 'laws' make no exceptions..." (quotes in original.)

Ah, yes. Federal 'laws' - not to be confused with REAL laws, passed by REAL MERICANS.
 
2010-06-07 04:56:17 PM  

Headso: Dude, can I crash on your couch for like 3 months after they legalize it there?


10 years ago, no prob bob. My wife may not tell me my political opinions, but she does get to tell me no friends on the couch today.

/mostly because I tell her no aunts/sisters on the couch.
//GOD DAMN I look forward to these good times and never going to my asshole dealer again. I can recommend some great beach locations. Shutters in santa monica is the best boardwalk local for a trustfunder like you. I bet there are 5 dispensaries in walking distance and you are on the beach just south of the pier. And seriously, if you are used to the frumpy new england women you'll feel like you are on Viagra for the 3 months of looking at CA girls... I know some really shady farking places too, if you prefer.
 
2010-06-07 04:57:02 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: Out of curiosity...

Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?


haha one of my duties for the local community is to help out with the probate work program on weekends as a supervisor. ( trying to get a job here, just have volunteer time now.) You should here how many are waiting for that law to pass, so they can get a free-ride out of drug offense issues it's hilarious.
 
2010-06-07 04:57:25 PM  

Troy McClure: And that's all fine and dandy until 2012 or four years after that when another administration comes in with a different view of it. These states are picking a fight with the federal government, and some tough on drugs president is going to come along soon enough to make that fight meaningful again.


Hyppy: It may push the buttons of the next administration.


Sure, but the headline didn't read "Arizona tries to push some hypothetical future federal government", it implied that this would somehow piss off the current government and I simply asked how, as they have already stated that they're not going to enforce federal drug laws in states that allow medical marijuana.

Damn, but I hope the Feds take the same stance on all-out legalization that they have on medical if it passes here in November.
 
2010-06-07 04:58:21 PM  
They should just go full-legal. That would really screw the Mexican weed trade.

//Meth trade would still be workin
 
2010-06-07 04:58:34 PM  
It's been practically legal for some time in california and guess what the sky is not falling.

Finally the cops have to actually arrest people for real crimes! Cops can longer get a free pass back to base to sit on their asses writing arrest reports for a joint.

I feel sorry for the poor 'criminal' defense attorneys,bail bondsmen,lazy cops etc what a shame

/banana kush ftw
 
2010-06-07 04:59:10 PM  
I know it's difficult for educated, reasonably intelligent people to understand how cultivating, harvesting and consuming a plant, all on one's own property, is actually in fact, a form of "interstate commerce". However, that is only because it defies common sense, which is something the unelected, black robed demi-gods who preside over our federal court system do with ease almost daily. We mere mundanes, on the other hand, lack their special wisdom, which allows them to interpret the words of the Constitution in a more innovative and sophisticated way. Our duty is to stand in awe, bow our heads, wave incense before their judgement seats, and to suppress any impulse we might have to think critically about their interpretations.

Jeez dude, did you drop out of law school? There's some issues here.
 
2010-06-07 04:59:14 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: Out of curiosity...

Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?


Before and after. I used some square kid's pee.
 
2010-06-07 05:00:46 PM  
I thought Arizonans were extremely interested in enforcing federal law?
 
2010-06-07 05:01:22 PM  

timujin: um... this is for medical marijuana. The White House has already said it won't affect enforcement of Federal anti-marijuana laws in states that have legalized medical marijuana. Not sure how this pushes anyone's buttons.



What the Obama admin said: We won't mess with states that have med mary j laws.

What the Obama admin does instead: Routinely harrases and shuts down med mary j dispensers in places like California.
 
2010-06-07 05:01:31 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: Out of curiosity...

Does anyone know someone that regularly smokes Rx weed AND works for an employer that conducts pre-employment and employee drug testing? If so, did they say they toked prior to getting hired, or afterwards?


The Colbert Report had a Nailed Them segment about just that, and in that case, yes. The guy was fired for showing positive in a piss test at work even though he had a prescription. Obviously my anecdote is not reliable info though.
 
2010-06-07 05:02:18 PM  
Hold it, hold it, hold it. If the borders are blocked how will the marijuana get across. I see an issue here....
 
2010-06-07 05:02:20 PM  

stickmangrit: ra-ra-raw: I guess they will have to open the border to imports from Mexico. Wait, is weed covered under NAFTA? If not, boy do I have a good idea for Mexico.

people still smoke Mexican weed? domestic, Canadian, or GTFO.


People in border states do. It's incredibly cheap.
 
2010-06-07 05:03:30 PM  

mtylerjr: My wife:

1] Went through medical school (handy with a scalpel, loved cutting open bodies, good knowledge of anesthetics and drugs)
2] Used to work in construction (pretty strong)
3] Is Maori (genetically predisposed to cannibalism and eating enemies)

I'm somewhat careful about picking fights with her.


mtylerjr will be back momentarily to confess to being a 'tard on the 'webs... ;)
 
2010-06-07 05:04:34 PM  
so they're crazy enough to pass openly racist laws, but sane enough to allow medical marijuana?

what the hell kind of state is that?
 
2010-06-07 05:04:34 PM  

mtylerjr: My wife:

1] Went through medical school (handy with a scalpel, loved cutting open bodies, good knowledge of anesthetics and drugs)
2] Used to work in construction (pretty strong)
3] Is Maori (genetically predisposed to cannibalism and eating enemies)

I'm somewhat careful about picking fights with her.


They said Arizona dude, not amazon. You know, like where all the cranberries come from.
 
2010-06-07 05:04:34 PM  
Maybe if the state of Arizona all started partaking of the herb they would be less grumpy about things like diversity. It worked for the grumpy guy in the hashish discovery myth in my profile.
 
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