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(ABC)   Bernie Madoff is seen as a success story, other inmates admit he's rising to the top of the social pyramid   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 66
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2010-06-07 12:06:48 PM  
he's promising big returns on cigarettes

'give me a pack today, and next month you'll get a carton return on your initial investment
 
2010-06-07 12:33:51 PM  
He's being transferred to Abu Ghraib?
 
2010-06-07 01:08:25 PM  
I read in one story that he's hanging out with Jonathon Pollard. Why the hell is that guy in white collar prison???? He's a farking traitor!
 
2010-06-07 01:22:40 PM  

Bernie Madoff is seen as a success story, other inmates admit he's rising to the top of the social pyramid


Perhaps he will accidentally fall off three or four times once he gets up there.
 
2010-06-07 01:24:43 PM  
He's rich. He will never suffer the repercussions of his crime. He'll park his butt in a comfy cell waiting for the public attention span to move onto the next 'big story' - then silently slip away.
 
2010-06-07 01:24:58 PM  
what_now: I read in one story that he's hanging out with Jonathon Pollard. Why the hell is that guy in white collar prison???? He's a farking traitor!

Yeah, but it was for Israel. I wish I could insert a joke here, but I don't have one.
 
2010-06-07 01:25:05 PM  
f*uck this guy.

I thought the whole point of "going away" to prison was to make the person go away.
 
2010-06-07 01:25:46 PM  
"If I'd lived that well for 70 years, I wouldn't care that I ended up in prison," says one of the inmates.

Basically, this.

Madoff lived like a king all his life, and nobody can take that away from him, even prison.

And putting him in "Camp Fluffy" is not making me any happier about it.
 
2010-06-07 01:29:12 PM  
Is social pyramid what they call the cak these days in the joint?
 
2010-06-07 01:32:04 PM  
It really just grinds my gears that he's so unrepentant and remorseless about everything.

Truly, he has no soul.
 
2010-06-07 01:32:39 PM  
I'm very surprised he hasn't been shanked yet. I guess most cons don't understand or comprehend the magnitude of his crimes.
 
2010-06-07 01:35:43 PM  
Is this where I go to see the farkers who decry the fact that prison has become an inhuman arse rape hotel, the living conditions are deplorable, and the system should be completely overhauled so every prisoner's human dignity should be respected and maintained as much as possible?

What's that? Except for ol' Bernie? I see.

If you'll excuse me I'm going back to the Mexican politician thread to read more farkers rant about Republican hypocrisy.
 
2010-06-07 01:36:32 PM  
Considering he's hanging out with ghetto thugs and bank robbers, the standard of "success" is very, very low.
 
2010-06-07 01:36:42 PM  
I have no trouble at all believing he's doing well in prison. Dude may as well be Lex Luthor. The guy is crazy good at what he does. Sure, what he's done is wrong, but it doesn't make him any less amazingly good at it. People everywhere can appreciate talent, from the highest king to the lowliest prisoner.
 
2010-06-07 01:36:53 PM  
Watched a report on this. When asked about his "victims" he replies: "Fark my victims". The fact that tax dollars are keeping him alive is revolting. He should be used as a human disease guinea pig. Might as well make his life of some value. Then donate his cadaver to medicine.
 
2010-06-07 01:37:01 PM  
ZombieCohagen: f*uck this guy.

This story seems to indicate Michael Bolton shouldn't have been so concerned about PMITA prison.

I thought the whole point of "going away" to prison was to make the person go away.

Amend the sentencing guidelines. But, he'd probably just end up in solitary if he got stuck in a SuperMax; the prison still has to protect him from other inmates.
 
2010-06-07 01:39:50 PM  
texastag: Is this where I go to see the farkers who decry the fact that prison has become an inhuman arse rape hotel, the living conditions are deplorable, and the system should be completely overhauled so every prisoner's human dignity should be respected and maintained as much as possible?

You know, I can have a real problem with the fact that this country jails a higher percentage of its citizens than anyplace else on earth and STILL think Madoff deserve a harsh sentence.
 
2010-06-07 01:44:10 PM  
robohobo: Dude may as well be Lex Luthor.

How about no. If Lex Luthor has a real life equivalent, it's Dick Cheney, as much as it stabs me in the heart to say that.

/Forgive me, Lex Luthor.
//I need a shower now.
 
2010-06-07 01:44:54 PM  
hurdboy: the prison still has to protect him from other inmates.

Since when? The Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin didn't protect Jeffrey Dahmer.
 
2010-06-07 01:47:58 PM  
well, so much for "karma"
 
2010-06-07 01:49:08 PM  
And thus, you have been force-fed your daily OUTRAGE courtesy of ABC News. At this point, what purpose does it serve anybody to know that Madoff is unrepentant for his crimes? That could probably describe 60 -70% of the prison population, but is that considered newsworthy?

The man was caught, convicted, and thrown in jail for the rest of his life. Justice, for what it is, was served. There is only one purpose for ABC to do this "story" and it is to whip people up in a frenzy all over again. So they can try to sell more Diet Coke.

I hate it when the media is blatant about it's manipulation.
 
2010-06-07 01:51:23 PM  
Braindeath: robohobo: Dude may as well be Lex Luthor.

How about no. If Lex Luthor has a real life equivalent, it's Dick Cheney, as much as it stabs me in the heart to say that.

/Forgive me, Lex Luthor.
//I need a shower now.


No, no, no. Dick Cheney is The Penguin.
 
2010-06-07 01:51:59 PM  
what_now: You know, I can have a real problem with the fact that this country jails a higher percentage of its citizens than anyplace else on earth and STILL think Madoff deserve a harsh sentence.

This.
I'm not in favor of ass rape for the guy buying a little Cali Kush but as far as Madoff goes, drill baby drill.
 
2010-06-07 01:53:00 PM  
Of course he's popular. He's got those soft "never worked a day
in my life" hands and squishy "grab-a-hold-and-spread-em" buttocks.

/ what's for a man in prison not to love?
 
2010-06-07 01:53:06 PM  
Dead for Tax Reasons: he's promising big returns on cigarettes

'give me a pack today, and next month you'll get a carton return on your initial investment


For some reason, I'm reminded of "Prisoners of Love."
 
2010-06-07 02:00:46 PM  
Stanfan114: "If I'd lived that well for 70 years, I wouldn't care that I ended up in prison," says one of the inmates.

Basically, this.

Madoff lived like a king all his life, and nobody can take that away from him, even prison.


That's what separates criminals from the rest of us -- most of us would rather NOT live like that knowing we were ruining lives along the way.

Most people would not enjoy a yacht they bought with money stolen from those who thought you were friends.
 
2010-06-07 02:14:48 PM  
Arkanaut: Considering he's hanging out with ghetto thugs and bank robbers, the standard of "success" is very, very low.

Consider the source. These cons look up to him the way that most NBA players look up to somebody like Michael Jordan. Not the best analogy I'll admit but it is what it is. I could care less if these guys worship him or if he feels bad or not, it really doesn't change a farking thing about what he did. Even though after reading the article about the guy putting ferrets in his pants I do have some new ideas for what could be done to change his stay at club fed.
 
mjg
2010-06-07 02:19:05 PM  
Done in one.
Thank you sir.

Dead for Tax Reasons: he's promising big returns on cigarettes

'give me a pack today, and next month you'll get a carton return on your initial investment
 
2010-06-07 02:22:51 PM  
Stanfan114: "If I'd lived that well for 70 years, I wouldn't care that I ended up in prison," says one of the inmates.

Basically, this.

Madoff lived like a king all his life, and nobody can take that away from him, even prison.

And putting him in "Camp Fluffy" is not making me any happier about it.


We can only hope he gets Alzheimers.
 
2010-06-07 02:24:29 PM  
LeroyBourne: I'm very surprised he hasn't been shanked yet. I guess most cons don't understand or comprehend the magnitude of his crimes.

He didn't steal from them - there are no props for doing him. And in that regard, his wife and kids are doing fine on the outside, so no one he stole from is all that mad about it, either. Now if his wife and kids get shanked, that would be something.
 
2010-06-07 02:29:26 PM  
By social pyramid do they meab My(cell)Space.con(vict) or is that just code to say they like how tight is old ass is?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-06-07 02:30:37 PM  
hestheone: LeroyBourne: I'm very surprised he hasn't been shanked yet. I guess most cons don't understand or comprehend the magnitude of his crimes.

He didn't steal from them - there are no props for doing him. And in that regard, his wife and kids are doing fine on the outside, so no one he stole from is all that mad about it, either. Now if his wife and kids get shanked, that would be something.


I bet he even gets some props from his fellow cons for bilking greedy suckers. Most of his victims were very well-off. Not likely that a bunch of felons are going to sympathize with them.
 
2010-06-07 02:32:31 PM  
Glad to see the usual violent revenge fetishists are out in force today. It bothers me more that people like that are free to walk around.

Given a choce between madoff and the fetishists, i'd take madoff.
 
2010-06-07 02:50:15 PM  
I call 'B.S.' on the report.

If Madoff was living so 'well' in prison why did other prisoners kick the shiate out of him late last year?

Broken ribs should be the least of his problems.


And as for his 'victims' he said 'fark them'?

Yeah, well fark you, Bernie. Let's see how you like dying in prison.
 
2010-06-07 02:50:23 PM  
Yeah, they call him "The Ponz".
 
2010-06-07 02:56:59 PM  
Bialystock and Bloom are already sellng shares of a prison version musical on Madoff's life story. So far they have sold 4325% with Bernie getting syndication rights.
 
2010-06-07 02:59:31 PM  
ZombieCohagen: f*uck this guy.

I thought the whole point of "going away" to prison was to make the person go away.


Away from whom?

Prison has different meanings to people whose families live in generational poverty. Remember how Scarface used to be about a villain? Notice how gangsta rap was a fad that somehow confronted mainstream politics? Race, gender, economics, tend to change the meaning of things like going to prison.
 
2010-06-07 03:04:55 PM  
LeroyBourne: I'm very surprised he hasn't been shanked yet. I guess most cons don't understand or comprehend the magnitude of his crimes.

He's in a white collar prison, their version of a shanking would be a pillow fight.
 
2010-06-07 03:07:33 PM  
Arkanaut: Considering he's hanging out with ghetto thugs and bank robbers, the standard of "success" is very, very low.

Apparently you didn't know that he's not in a prison where he'd have to hang out with those types.
 
2010-06-07 03:23:32 PM  
Stanfan114: Basically, this.

Madoff lived like a king all his life, and nobody can take that away from him, even prison.


The funny thing with Madoff is that he ran a respectable brokerage for decades, became very rich doing it and only started the Ponzi scheme later on.

In fact, it's precisely because he was legit that the Ponzi scheme worked. Everyone assumed he was running a scam, but that the scam was insider trading, where at worst, they'd get their money back.

In those cases, I have no sympathy. He cleaned out rich people who thought they were profiting from criminal activities.
 
2010-06-07 03:24:03 PM  
Close2TheEdge: And thus, you have been force-fed your daily OUTRAGE courtesy of ABC News. At this point, what purpose does it serve anybody to know that Madoff is unrepentant for his crimes? That could probably describe 60 -70% of the prison population, but is that considered newsworthy?

The man was caught, convicted, and thrown in jail for the rest of his life. Justice, for what it is, was served. There is only one purpose for ABC to do this "story" and it is to whip people up in a frenzy all over again. So they can try to sell more Diet Coke.

I hate it when the media is blatant about it's manipulation.


Yep. I don't particularly care where he is. I'd forgotten about him and here comes ABC News to let us know. Who gives a shiat.

He's in prison. He is told when to eat, when to sleep and when to crap. All this for a guy who previously did whatever he wanted whenever he wanted to. You can't tell me that it doesn't eat at him. The only thing I think he may truly be enjoying is the relief of no longer having to carry that huge lie. I think this whole "fark my victims" thing is how he feels, but it is also a front for the other prisoners, the media and his victims. He may well feel that way, but I doubt it helps him sleep at night when he knows, deep down inside, that the rest of his life is going to be that cell. No more money, hookers and coke. Ever.

The sentiment seems to be that he's lived this incredible life and if this is his punishment then maybe it was worth it--this could well be worth it for some people. Problem is, guys like that have appetites and egos that are too big to think of that way. He's miserable even if he isn't in some Supermax solitary cell.
 
2010-06-07 03:27:37 PM  
 
2010-06-07 03:27:40 PM  
It's my vague understanding this attitude is quite common, if the new inmate committed some big media-splashed non-pervy crime; they arrive in the clink as celebrities. The fact that they probably still have access to money and thus perks gives another reason to cozy up to them.
 
2010-06-07 03:27:59 PM  
snarkerati.com

I wonder if Madoff has cack meat sammiches...

/hot like Texas today
 
2010-06-07 03:34:15 PM  
His complete lack of remorse is refreshing in a way. If you're gonna be the biggest prick to ever walk the earth, then at least have the common courtesy not to sob and apologize just because you were caught. His comment "F*ck my victims" was WAY more sincere than Tiger Woods and Jesse James apologizing:
"Wait a minute *sniff*, I need to take a Kleenex break"
 
2010-06-07 03:55:42 PM  
Well, I mean, sure, he got put in jail at the end of his life. But for most of it, he was living on the high hog. His family still has a fair chunk change.

From an entirely rational perspective, he won. Yeah, he went to jail at the end. Doesn't seem to be that bad for him, and his genes were passed on to the next generation (AND, since his family is retaining a good bit of wealth, his genes will likely continue to be propogated, due to such an advantadge).
 
2010-06-07 04:04:33 PM  
Pyramid?

I see what you did there
 
Ox
2010-06-07 04:56:02 PM  
Personally I don't see why it's such a big deal. If you're stupid and narrow minded enough to invest money with someone simply because he's of the same religion imo you deserve to get taken.

People need to do their own damn research, if you are lazy and give you money to people based on their religion I say too bad.

Of course all this illusion of wealth is the majority of the US wealth. I get why they regulate it, gotta have faith etc but it's the opposite of the free market. If people want to be stupid why can't I take their money?
 
2010-06-07 05:24:16 PM  
LeroyBourne: I'm very surprised he hasn't been shanked yet. I guess most cons don't understand or comprehend the magnitude of his crimes.

Sure they do.. but those inmates are also in "Camp Fluffy", and if they're not going to be released anytime soon, would probably prefer to stay there instead of being moved to PMITA Prison instead. Shanking other inmates will result in both an increase in sentence and getting moved to somewhere a bit less pleasant.

And besides, with the possible exception of those inmates who are truely remorseful, or innocent, most of them can probably justify to themselves what he did, even if they don't agree with the extremes to which he took it.
 
2010-06-07 05:48:52 PM  
LeroyBourne: I'm very surprised he hasn't been shanked yet. I guess most cons don't understand or comprehend the magnitude of his crimes.

He stole money from jews and rich people and rich jews.

I doubt the average prison inmate is any too broken up about that.
 
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