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(ESPN)   Bud Selig: "No." Bonus: announced this while Detroit and Cleveland were in the middle of playing their next game   (sports.espn.go.com) divider line 315
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2010-06-03 03:26:16 PM  
Sweet. The man has timing.
 
2010-06-03 03:26:59 PM  
he bobbled the ball.
 
2010-06-03 03:27:00 PM  
highrye: Sweet. The man has timing.

What's the over/under on hours it takes for him to come back and say the current replay policy is kosher?
 
2010-06-03 03:27:12 PM  
Well, Selig isn't the only one who's made a bad call before...
 
2010-06-03 03:27:24 PM  
He is frickin terrible. This would be way less of a drastic action than when the George Brett pine tar home run turned out was overturned (even though it was the correct call) and the game replayed.
 
2010-06-03 03:27:27 PM  
Not unless he was going to give St. Louis the '85 Series while he was at it.
 
2010-06-03 03:27:33 PM  
I am not eloquent enough to desribe how much of a failure Bud Selig is.
 
2010-06-03 03:27:39 PM  
Although he's probably right (in this case), he's still a horrible, horrible commissioner and needs to go.
 
2010-06-03 03:27:47 PM  
Borkoman: highrye: Sweet. The man has timing.

What's the over/under on hours it takes for him to come back and say the current replay policy is kosher?


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That being said, holy crap we don't need this many threads on the topic.
 
2010-06-03 03:27:54 PM  
Baseball sucks.
 
2010-06-03 03:28:10 PM  
He'll "look into" adding more instant replays.

I'm assuming that is also a NO?
 
2010-06-03 03:28:12 PM  
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2010-06-03 03:28:15 PM  
obeymatt: I am not eloquent enough to desribe how much of a failure Bud Selig is.

Well said, sir.
 
2010-06-03 03:28:28 PM  
Any chance that enough media/fan outrage could continue to build up and cause him to change his mind? I mean, he seems pretty malleable (judging from his reaction to the outrage over the All-Star tie and whatnot).
 
2010-06-03 03:28:33 PM  
CravenMorehead: Baseball sucks.
 
2010-06-03 03:29:08 PM  
It shouldnt be reversed. I don't want to attend pro sports games knowing the outcome could be altered after i leave. Umps are human.
/Tigers fan
 
2010-06-03 03:29:27 PM  
That's OK, because baseball sucks.
 
2010-06-03 03:29:32 PM  
He made the right decision. Cry all you want, but it was right.
 
2010-06-03 03:29:37 PM  
If it doesn't affect a win or a loss, it's pretty rough precedent for a commissioner to change the statistics from a game like this. I'm with Bud on this.
 
2010-06-03 03:29:43 PM  
Hatman013: Any chance that enough media/fan outrage could continue to build up and cause him to change his mind? I mean, he seems pretty malleable (judging from his reaction to the outrage over the All-Star tie and whatnot).

Doubt it. Unless people stopped going to baseball games in droves, he'd have no reason to change his mind.
 
2010-06-03 03:30:17 PM  
Ugh. How horrible.

I actually like Bud. But this is a terrible decision.

The "human element" is not tradition and it needs to go. The "human element" means mistakes, and umps are trying to be perfect.

The only reason its tradition is because replay wasn't available in 1900.
 
2010-06-03 03:31:16 PM  
Peter von Nostrand: Although he's probably right (in this case), he's still a horrible, horrible commissioner and needs to go.

THIS!!! If he reverses this call, it's just going to open a can of worms, and he will be asked to reverse other calls.

As for the current replay policy... if they allow it for every play, games will be 6 hours long! If it's going to be changed to allow for replay on anything other than home runs, there's going to have to be some kind of a limit as to the number of replays that can be requested. The games will take forever if it's allowed on every play. The games are already long enough...
 
2010-06-03 03:31:32 PM  
Selig is the epitome of class, isn't he? It makes you just wish you could have as much class as him, to be the type of person who would run over your neighbor's dog because it would win you $5 and a scratch ticket.
 
2010-06-03 03:31:50 PM  
He admits a call was blown, the umpire admits it, he admires how everyone handled the situation, he will look into taking steps so it hopefully doesn't happen again, but he won't reverse it because.... because....mistakes are important even when there's a chance to correct them? Bullshiat.
 
2010-06-03 03:31:52 PM  
obeymatt: I am not eloquent enough to desribe how much of a failure Bud Selig is.

He is to baseball as "New Coke" is to baseball.
 
2010-06-03 03:32:00 PM  
Dogfacedgod: He made the right decision.

Look, as long as this debacle leads to much more replay in baseball, fine.

I can get over this one game.

I can't get over an antiquated system of officiating.
 
2010-06-03 03:32:00 PM  
Erom: It shouldnt be reversed. I don't want to attend pro sports games knowing the outcome could be altered after i leave. Umps are human.
/Tigers fan


100% agree with you.

/Tigers fan
 
2010-06-03 03:32:11 PM  
Borkoman: What's the over/under on hours it takes for him to come back and say the current replay policy is kosher?

I give it 48, tops.

God, what a f*cking coward.
 
2010-06-03 03:32:18 PM  
downstairs: The only reason its tradition is because replay wasn't available in 1900.

each any every baseball game is made up of 100's of judgement calls. Where do you draw the line? How long do you want a game to be?
 
2010-06-03 03:33:00 PM  
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RIP Bud Selig
 
2010-06-03 03:33:16 PM  
howdyyall9999: obeymatt: I am not eloquent enough to desribe how much of a failure Bud Selig is.

He is to baseball as "New Coke" is to baseball.


He'll be a clever ploy to get the American public to start drinking the original flavor of Baseball Commissioners?
 
2010-06-03 03:33:38 PM  
And this is why less and less people care about baseball. It basically comes down to the fact that Selig is too proud to correct one of the rarest and most historic things that can happen in professional sports.fark him.
 
2010-06-03 03:33:49 PM  
Bud Selig just never seems capable of rising to the occasion. There is precedent for it and changing the call from last night wouldn't harm a thing. And if you really want to "praise" Joyce for his career, change the call and let a good umpire off the hook.

Why is he worried about numbers in the record book anyway? He presided over the era in which the record book was forever tarnished by cheating.
 
2010-06-03 03:33:49 PM  
I love how everyone thinks replay will instantly solve all bad calls ever made, look at football and hockey they still fark up a lot even with the replay
 
2010-06-03 03:33:59 PM  
Tylercn: each any every baseball game is made up of 100's of judgement calls. Where do you draw the line? How long do you want a game to be?

Maybe judgment should be used to determine when replay is appropriate.
 
2010-06-03 03:34:10 PM  
Tylercn: Where do you draw the line?

You draw the line at fairness. There is no excuse for not having video replay for issues to do with being safe or out.
 
2010-06-03 03:34:18 PM  
Sucks, and I feel bad for the kid. But, it was the right decision.
 
2010-06-03 03:34:28 PM  
I'd like to thank Bud Selig for turning MLB into an unwatchable dreckfest, thus allowing me to enjoy outdoor activities in the summer.
 
2010-06-03 03:34:28 PM  
Good call.
 
2010-06-03 03:34:33 PM  
Galarraga must be happy about this decision. If the call was overruled he'd only have a perfect game. One game that they/he won anyway.

Instead, his response to the whole thing must surely resonate with every ump in the league and you know this kid is going to be given a huge strike zone from now on, along with plenty of leeway on balks.

He'll chalk up plenty more career wins because of it.
 
2010-06-03 03:35:09 PM  
Tylercn: downstairs: The only reason its tradition is because replay wasn't available in 1900.

each any every baseball game is made up of 100's of judgement calls. Where do you draw the line? How long do you want a game to be?


In this case, the line is 'erroneous calls that would end a game if called correctly'. Which you have to admit isn't asking very much.
 
2010-06-03 03:35:13 PM  
obeymatt: I am not eloquent enough to desribe how much of a failure Bud Selig is.

The wild card, massive increase in revenue, interleague play, merging the NL and AL, finally starting to deal with revenue sharing.

vs.

Steroids (his hands were tied and players used before 1992) and a single botched exhibition game.

You make the call.
 
2010-06-03 03:35:18 PM  
Sooo... Bud Selig admits it was a bad call, the ump says he made a bad call, but though it is within Selig's power to reverse the call, he has declined to make things right.

Asshole.

Reversing this call has nothing to do with any prior calls. It's been done before, there is no precedent-setting happening here by reversing the call, only the denial of justice for a player who was robbed of a piece of baseball immortality.

Reversing the call would have no impact on the outcome of the game - but it would right a wrong.
 
2010-06-03 03:36:00 PM  
almandot: He admits a call was blown, the umpire admits it, he admires how everyone handled the situation, he will look into taking steps so it hopefully doesn't happen again, but he won't reverse it because.... because....mistakes are important even when there's a chance to correct them?

You'd be surprised at how many baseball fans wholeheartedly agree with that statement. It's mindboggling, but a lot of them do. Jut look through the threads on this topic. Some sports fans just like sh*tty officiating. Gives them something to b*tch about, I guess.
 
2010-06-03 03:36:09 PM  
Hey Bud, while you're here, can you please pick either using the AL or the NL rules for the entire league? I don't care which one, but you don't see the QB in the NFL kicking field goals in the AFC and a kicker doing it in the NFC.

/would prefer NL rules myself, don't enjoy seeing Fatty McOldfartason batting DH.
 
2010-06-03 03:36:19 PM  
DslainteC: Galarraga must be happy about this decision. If the call was overruled he'd only have a perfect game. One game that they/he won anyway.

Instead, his response to the whole thing must surely resonate with every ump in the league and you know this kid is going to be given a huge strike zone from now on, along with plenty of leeway on balks.

He'll chalk up plenty more career wins because of it.


Yeah but unless he somehow pulls off a Hall of Fame career, is it really that much better? I mean, perfect games are rare as hell and I'm sure any pitcher would want that on their resume over a few more career victories.
 
2010-06-03 03:36:53 PM  
Joyce is behind the plate in today's game. I have a strange hunch the strike zone will expand a little bit for the Tigers' pitchers.
 
2010-06-03 03:36:57 PM  
almandot: He admits a call was blown, the umpire admits it, he admires how everyone handled the situation, he will look into taking steps so it hopefully doesn't happen again, but he won't reverse it because.... because....mistakes are important even when there's a chance to correct them? Bullshiat.

This, and its not a run of the mill situation. It was the final play, the final out, for a perfect game. Reverse it, all is forgiven, and everyone feels good and both the ump and pitcher can go on with their lives.


Now both the ump and pitcher will have regrets every single day for the rest of their lives so Selig can preserve some bullshiat only he cares about. He can fix what went wrong, he should.
 
2010-06-03 03:37:06 PM  
Tylercn: each any every baseball game is made up of 100's of judgement calls. Where do you draw the line? How long do you want a game to be?

Every other sport has drawn the line just fine.

Limited number of challenges per team (one or two is fine).

Make it efficient (guy in the booth, make the call in 1-2 minutes).

Let umps decide what's important enough to review beyond the challenges.

You'd increase a very limited number of games all of 2-5 minutes.

If you're concern is the speed of the game, there are many other things to look at first.
 
2010-06-03 03:37:09 PM  
Malcolm_Sex: I love how everyone thinks replay will instantly solve all bad calls ever made, look at football and hockey they still fark up a lot even with the replay

When does hockey replay ever get farked up?

As for football, those replays are much more complicated than out/safe and fair/foul. Baseball replays are like basketball replays, which are incredibly simple.
 
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