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(Daily Mail)   After a man goes blind trying to descend Mt. Everest, his fellow mountain climbers risk their lives making sure he made it back safely. Just kidding. The abandoned him and left him to die   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 370
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2010-06-02 12:52:51 AM  
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: That was fricking hilarious! I thought for sure that would be a Rick roll. Would you care for a TF sponsorship?

Thanks, glad someone enjoyed it. No, I learnt once TF is detrimental to my life. Unless you're being sarcastic... then you sound fat.
 
2010-06-02 12:52:51 AM  
fark Krakauer!

mountainsoftravelphotos.com

...and add me to the list of 'he took his chances, he knew the risks, he lost.'
 
2010-06-02 12:53:42 AM  
sexy-fetus: Haoie: Surely there are easier and more enjoyable ways to go blind?

I've been trying since puberty.


Haha. Well I laughed.
 
2010-06-02 12:53:46 AM  
Climbing Mount Everest is stupid.
 
2010-06-02 12:54:00 AM  

"The abandoned him and left him to die"


THIS IS THE DAY -- Your life will surely change.

 
2010-06-02 12:54:17 AM  
bulldg4life: studebaker hoch: You know, skittles wouldn't be a bad thing to bring on a long climb.

Considering the frostbite you'd get from trying to eat a handful while climbing...you better really f*cking like skittles


But they're made with real fruit juice, so they're damn near a health food...
 
2010-06-02 12:54:30 AM  
tzzhc4: Sygerrik: I intend to climb Everest

Why?


Because it's there.
 
2010-06-02 12:54:33 AM  
fiction alive dead

Nice. Very nice.
 
2010-06-02 12:55:00 AM  
Groover McToober: Amateurs.

wow, he looks pretty good.............now.
 
2010-06-02 12:55:11 AM  
ohnonotfloridaagain: jshine: What the Sherpas do is the opposite of fettering.

Aren't climbers led by sherpas with ropes and chains (fettering)? What is the difference? I have only climbed mountains on horseback, not on foot with gear, so I don't know.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fettering

Main Entry: fetter
Function: transitive verb
Date: before 12th century

1 : to put fetters on : shackle
2 : to restrain from motion, action, or progress
synonyms: see 'hamper'
 
2010-06-02 12:55:37 AM  
Capt'n Hector: Honest question: why couldn't they install a zip line from (near) the summit for rapid evacuations?

There's not exactly anywhere for the zip line to go...I mean, it's not like the zip line can just go from the summit down 500 feet and everything would be ok. The zip line would have to go some 3000 feet before you got a point that wasn't in the death zone. And, even then, being out of the death zone is no guarantee for safety. Also, from my extremely limited knowledge of what the highest 2000 feet of Everest look like...I don't believe there is two points that can reasonably connected by a zip line.

The line and/or supports and/or base attachments would be subjected to some of the worst weather and environmental conditions known to man leading to failure, freezing, whatever.

And, well, the wind could probably rip the thing to shreds before it was used properly.
 
2010-06-02 12:56:27 AM  
jingks: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: That was fricking hilarious! I thought for sure that would be a Rick roll. Would you care for a TF sponsorship?

Thanks, glad someone enjoyed it. No, I learnt once TF is detrimental to my life. Unless you're being sarcastic... then you sound fat.


No problem, that's why I figured I'd ask first. The offer stands if you ever want it.

/not exactly fat
 
2010-06-02 12:57:05 AM  
jingks: I'd at least want them to rig up some sort of paraglider and toss me off the side.

Wouldn't work. At that altitude, the air is so thin that for the wing to make enough lift to carry you, you'd have to be moving way faster than you would down low. You'd get about as far as you would without the glider.

It'd sure be fun to watch, though.
 
2010-06-02 12:57:10 AM  
RayD8: sexy-fetus: Haoie: Surely there are easier and more enjoyable ways to go blind?

I've been trying since puberty.

Haha. Well I laughed.


Indeed, a hearty chuckle. I'd high-five him, but I bet his hands are sticky.
 
2010-06-02 12:57:33 AM  
Ow! That was my feelings!: Groover McToober: Amateurs.

wow, he looks pretty good.............now.


In my estimation, Beck Weathers is one of the top five badass mofos of all times.
 
2010-06-02 12:58:07 AM  
oh and once I saw a blimp: Climbing Mount Everest is stupid.

I'm just surprised they haven't allowed a license for a McDonald's up there yet.
 
2010-06-02 12:58:12 AM  
Damn that cowardly skunk Abe Simpson
 
2010-06-02 12:58:16 AM  
Maybe he was just gay?
 
2010-06-02 12:59:11 AM  
Groover McToober: Ow! That was my feelings!: Groover McToober: Amateurs.

wow, he looks pretty good.............now.

In my estimation, Beck Weathers is one of the top five badass mofos of all times.


yeah, one seriously tough bastard.
 
2010-06-02 01:00:50 AM  
RayD8: sexy-fetus: Haoie: Surely there are easier and more enjoyable ways to go blind?

I've been trying since puberty.

Haha. Well I laughed.


Me too.
 
2010-06-02 01:00:52 AM  
Groover McToober: Ow! That was my feelings!: Groover McToober: Amateurs.

wow, he looks pretty good.............now.

In my estimation, Beck Weathers is one of the top five badass mofos of all times.


geez.......

http://out-door-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/beck-weathers01.jpg
 
2010-06-02 01:01:19 AM  
I'm curious as to why they didn't bag him and rope him down. I've seen some really amazing technical rope work on higher peaks. Maybe they tried, well, I hope they tried.
 
2010-06-02 01:01:34 AM  
SharkInfested: there's a café in Kathmandu where all the climbers sign the walls. Pretty crazy. Only got as far as Pokhara, wanted to go to at least basecamp, but permits are crazy. Did fly on Budda Air from Pokhara to Kathmandu, which was cool.

and if you climb it, accept the risks.


A friend of mine is in Pokhara right now and took the commuter flight that you mentioned. The pics are awesome.
 
2010-06-02 01:01:45 AM  
I don't understand. TFA says he was lucid, so what exactly where the Sherpas doing with him for eight hours, that they couldn't get him to move more than 200 ft? If he was lucid, why didn't he cooperate and let them lead him down the mountain?
 
2010-06-02 01:01:47 AM  
Ow! That was my feelings!: Groover McToober: Ow! That was my feelings!: Groover McToober: Amateurs.

wow, he looks pretty good.............now.

In my estimation, Beck Weathers is one of the top five badass mofos of all times.

geez.......

http://out-door-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/beck-weathers01.jpg


out-door-life.com
 
2010-06-02 01:03:04 AM  
tvmedia.ign.com

Call me Mint Jelly, 'cuz I'm on the lam!
 
2010-06-02 01:04:30 AM  
Kaiku: Maybe he was just gay?

Why would a blind person climb Mt. Everest other than bragging rights? I mean, I guess that's enough reason, but it's like a person without taste ordering the most expensive meal in the world made with delicious rare flavorful ingredients. Also the meal would be really difficult and treacherous to eat.
 
2010-06-02 01:04:40 AM  
my book on the flight(s) to Nepal? Touching the Void. Bad choice!

An unfortunate strong memory? I remember where I was when I heard Michael Hutchins died. In a café in Nepal with a lot of weepy Aussies. Man up, sissy pants!
 
2010-06-02 01:05:02 AM  
What a selfish selfish "sport." Spend thousands of dollars and cause your loved ones unimaginable stress. It must take an incredibly self-centered person to be so focused on their own glory.
 
kth
2010-06-02 01:05:26 AM  
drewsclues: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: If you haven't already done so, I recommend putting "Touching the Void" (new window)in your Netflix queue.

The movie is about two mountain climbers where one climber has to decide whether to stay with his helpless climbing partner or to cut the rope (literally), let him die and make it down the mountainside himself. He makes the decision to cut the rope and, separately, both of them make it back down the mountain. Talk about an awkward reunion.

Agreed. That story is unbelievable. Mountaineering non-fiction is some of best out there. Try reading "Into Thin Air" and then "The Climb" back to back. People are so impaired at that altitude, you really don't know who got the story right.


There are also books by Beck Weathers and (I think) David Brashears about the incident. I've seen the IMAX movie that Brashears was doing at the time. It's interesting, the first and last third seem to be his original intent for the movie, but the middle is about helping out the Mountain Madness and Adventure Consultants teams get down.

Also, if I remember Touching the Void, the only reason the bottom climber didn't cut the rope well before the top one did was that he couldn't get to his knife.

I went through my climbing emergency phase a few years ago and read a bunch of books about mountaineering accidents. My mom was a little worried I was going to do something really foolish.
 
2010-06-02 01:05:50 AM  
He'd had blindness before and didn't tell his team before the ascent putting everyone at risk
But that's ok, he realized one of his dreams

Now they get to live with having to abandon him on the mountain

ytmn bad teef dewd
 
2010-06-02 01:06:03 AM  
jshine: Capt'n Hector: Honest question: why couldn't they install a zip line from (near) the summit for rapid evacuations?

Would probably need to be tens of miles long and with incredible tensile strength (since it would *need* to be under a lot of tension to prevent it sagging too much when in use).

Installing it would also be challenging -- one would need to run the rope in such a way as to avoid snagging it on the rocks, or lead it with a helicopter (impossible, given the altitude).

Finally, one would have to install a firm anchorage at the summit that was strong enough to withstand the tension placed on the rope.

It may be possible, but setting up such a thing would be a significant technical challenge.


I don't think the line wound need to be that long, more like 2 miles. And a helicopter could make it, the Eurocopter AS350. Anchoring the line would be the hardest part, though. But hey, the Swiss were able to to build a train to the top of Jungfraujoch. Hmm.... why not just do that? Build a tunnel to the top.
 
2010-06-02 01:08:26 AM  
Ow! That was my feelings!: Ow! That was my feelings!: Groover McToober: Ow! That was my feelings!: Groover McToober: Amateurs.
wow, he looks pretty good.............now.
In my estimation, Beck Weathers is one of the top five badass mofos of all times.
geez.......
http://out-door-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/beck-weathers01.jpg


From his wiki: "Weathers authored a book about his experience, Left For Dead, which was first published in 2000."

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-06-02 01:08:30 AM  
Cup_O_Jo: YOU CAN NOT carry people down that slope

True, but if you're on the south face, you can get to where they can do a helicopter rescue. The north face? No such luck. And this was on the north.
 
2010-06-02 01:08:36 AM  
jshine: ohnonotfloridaagain: jshine: What the Sherpas do is the opposite of fettering.

Aren't climbers led by sherpas with ropes and chains (fettering)? What is the difference? I have only climbed mountains on horseback, not on foot with gear, so I don't know.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fettering

Main Entry: fetter
Function: transitive verb
Date: before 12th century

1 : to put fetters on : shackle
2 : to restrain from motion, action, or progress
synonyms: see 'hamper'


Thank you for not answering the question - asked in good faith - of what the sherpas do that is the opposite of fettering.

Goodnight and have a pleasant tomorrow.
 
2010-06-02 01:08:49 AM  
queezyweezel: lets see....medical emergency on possibly one of the most inhospitable places on earth (above sea level).....leave him to die, or have everyone die while trying to rescue him........I know my choice. Especially if I was the blind guy.

/Leave me to die FFS. Save yourselves.


I would totally jump. Face first.

Make it an epic statement.

"SAVE YOURSEEEEELLLLLVVVVEEESSSSSS"
Splat.
 
2010-06-02 01:09:07 AM  
Ponzholio: So this guy's had a dream to climb Everest since he was 3? When I was 3, I dreamed of being able to fit all my crayons up my nose...

Don't leave us hanging like that - how's your training coming along?

/useless without pics
//worse with
 
2010-06-02 01:10:35 AM  
THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE HANDICAP ACCESS!

PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLIMB EVEREST TOO!
 
2010-06-02 01:11:02 AM  
Andromeda: In the middle of reading Into Thin Air right now and this seems par for the intense conditions on the mountain (because if they didn't leave this guy they would have died themselves). The amount of pain and danger even the people who safely get to the top (and back!) are so intense that I couldn't imagine ever doing it.

The worst possible book you could read on the '96 Everest disaster. Krakauer is an arrogant, pompous asshole who laid the bulk of the blame on the one man who did the most to save the lost and dying. Read "The Climb" by Anatoli Boukreev. Not only was Boukreev an accomplished climber who knew his shiat, he actually tried to save people, not just whine about it after the fact.
 
2010-06-02 01:11:30 AM  
Ow! That was my feelings!: post of guy with rotting face

Thank you, I really didn't need all those calories anyways. You know, the calories from the dinner I was eating. Was.
 
2010-06-02 01:11:37 AM  
Trik: THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE HANDICAP ACCESS!

PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLIMB EVEREST TOO!


They have every right to place one foot above the other and start.
 
2010-06-02 01:11:42 AM  
These are the types of stories I find amusing. There is always someone shocked when something goes awry while people are engaged in extremely risky behavior. My favorite stories are when people meet an untimely end during the Running of the Bulls, human popsicle posing on Mount Everest, or midnight rabid beaver juggling.
 
2010-06-02 01:12:47 AM  
owned
 
2010-06-02 01:12:54 AM  
Trik: THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE HANDICAP ACCESS!

PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLIMB EVEREST TOO!


There have been wheel chair ascents. And blind ascents.
 
2010-06-02 01:14:20 AM  
Abox: I think the Everest climb is more foolhardy than brave.

All told, Everest isn't the deadliest mountain around, not by a long shot. Among mountains over 8,000 meters, it's actually one of the safer ones. Now K2 or Annapurna or even Nanga Parbat? Yeah, those are seriously dangerous.
 
2010-06-02 01:15:17 AM  
gadian: Trik: THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE HANDICAP ACCESS!

PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLIMB EVEREST TOO!

There have been wheel chair ascents. And blind ascents.


Can I get a regular chair ascent?
 
2010-06-02 01:15:56 AM  
Capt'n Hector: Honest question: why couldn't they install a zip line from (near) the summit for rapid evacuations?

As long as the zip line doesn't get snarled by ice build up or buried in ice, destroyed by storms that last for weeks on end or ripped apart by those same conditions, you can feel free to attempt to carry the other end of the rope up to the summit - and find a secure anchor point for it.

No I'm not trying to make it sound harder than it probably is. I've probably understated the issues, like the amount of time you can spend on the summit is rated in minutes before you must descend or suffer hypoxia to the extent someone else must get you off the mountain.

/I am not a high altitude mountain climber. I could be wrong.
 
2010-06-02 01:16:25 AM  
ohnonotfloridaagain: Thank you for not answering the question - asked in good faith - of what the sherpas do that is the opposite of fettering.

"Fetter" means to restrain from progress. The Sherpas are known for assisting climbers.

I wasn't trying to be a dick about it, but I honestly thought that the definition would speak for itself.
 
2010-06-02 01:16:35 AM  
Sodium Benzoate: gadian: Trik: THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE HANDICAP ACCESS!

PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLIMB EVEREST TOO!

There have been wheel chair ascents. And blind ascents.

Can I get a regular chair ascent?


Fark that. I need a desk chair ascent. And a desk ascending in front of me.

/Ascending desks!
 
2010-06-02 01:16:57 AM  
CabinBoy: These are the types of stories I find amusing. There is always someone shocked when something goes awry while people are engaged in extremely risky behavior. My favorite stories are when people meet an untimely end during the Running of the Bulls, human popsicle posing on Mount Everest, or midnight rabid beaver juggling.

I dunno. MrS likes to juggle my beaver and his end has always been timely.
 
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