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2010-05-24 06:31:45 AM
It's situations like these that make me ponder what sort of advanced planning the US has done in the event such situations get out of hand. This has been going on for so long we've certainly had a sizable amount of analysts, etc pouring over data and images.

It's a shame we won't know what they know until 25-50 years after the fact.
 
2010-05-24 06:32:25 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

The aftermath of "It's On."
 
2010-05-24 06:37:15 AM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Go Fast Turn Left: I didn't think it was ever technically off.

This.

And also this...

You can lob weapons at each other all freaking day and night, but you're not going to affect any change until you hit people where it hurts most -- the pocketbook. South Korea is probably the most technologically-advanced nation on Earth right now -- like we Americans thought the Japanese to be in the 80s.

That little tiny piece of peninsula off the Chinese coast might just kick our collective ass. They're funding innovation and technology without apology. "DNA restrictions? What the hell is that? We're cloning dogs and sheep."


But unless they can start cloning Zerglings, they're gonna get pwned with the North's Vespene Gas.
 
2010-05-24 06:38:37 AM
a "war" with north korea?

HAH

you mean 4 days of bombing and south korea calling a truce?
 
2010-05-24 06:44:35 AM
Mentat: I'm reading a book about the Korean War now. Interesting time.

fieldsawake.files.wordpress.com

I'm watching this right now.
It's a pretty good documentary, I recommend it.
 
2010-05-24 06:54:12 AM
img94.imageshack.us
img94.imageshack.us
//still trying to find the answer
 
2010-05-24 07:01:32 AM
bikkurikun: This one is also good:


US Anti-DPRK Smear Campaign Blasted
Pyongyang, May 22 (KCNA) -- The U.S. imperialists' ever-more undisguised smear campaign against the DPRK to isolate and stifle it is no more than despicable behaviors of those seized by extreme uneasiness and fret about the tremendous power of the DPRK winning one victory after another, says Rodong Sinmun Saturday in a signed article.

The U.S., aware that it can never bring the DPRK to its knees by force of arms as all its people are under arms and its whole territory has turned into a fortress, seeks to realize its ambition for aggression on the DPRK at any cost by employing all non-military means, the article observes, and goes on:

One of them is psychological warfare.

This psychological warfare of the U.S. is aimed at creating illusion about capitalism, discontent with the socialist system, etc. among Korean people in a bid to realize its scenario to bring down the system in the DPRK with ease.

The U.S. is seriously mistaken if it thinks it can bring down the DPRK through its despicable smear campaign.

The U.S. imperialists' despicable and persistent psychological warfare to destabilize the DPRK, get it degenerate and bring it down will only harden the faith and will of the Korean people to firmly defend the country and socialism and consolidate the politico-ideological position and the anti-imperialist military front as firm as an invulnerable fortress.

The U.S. would be well advised to immediately stop its foolish anti-DPRK smear campaign.

http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm (new window)


S. Korean Puppets' Moves for Confrontation and War Flailed
Pyongyang, May 23 (KCNA) -- The south Korean puppet authorities finally issued the "results of investigation" in which they groundlessly linked the case of the sinking of a warship with the DPRK despite the accusations and protest at home and abroad. This is an intolerable provocation against the DPRK and an undisguised declaration of a war against it. Rodong Sinmun Sunday says this in a signed commentary.

The commentary goes on: It is also an intentional and premeditated plot to push the inter-Korean relations to total collapse and ignite a war of aggression against the DPRK in collusion with their U.S. and Japanese masters under the pretext of the ship case.

The ship case was an unprecedented charade crafted by the group of traitors keen on escalating confrontation.

The "investigation into the case" was nothing but a red herring as it was aimed to zealously spread a rumor about the "north's involvement in the case" and thus fan up atmosphere for extreme animosity toward fellow countrymen and confrontation with them among south Koreans of different circles and, at the same time, openly unleash a war of aggression against the DPRK in collusion with foreign forces under the pretext of what it called "security crisis".

A saying goes a club is fit for a mad dog. The army and people of the DPRK will never pardon the group of traitors getting hell-bent on confrontation and war, dare taking issue with fellow countrymen.

We do not know empty talk.

The reckless racket of the puppet forces will lead to a dirge of the traitorous clique.


WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!
an external torpedo could not bend steel... what of the report of the unexplained radar echo at 75 ft... the mysterious backwards-flying bird?
Why do none of these dead people exist? No one seems to know who they are. Why has the USA been training dolphins to carry ship-destroying explosives? no less than 6 people gave a signed statement that hafl a day before the Cheonan allegedly disappeared, there was a boat in the water making a noise
 
2010-05-24 07:02:30 AM
The U.S. military estimate is that it would take 5-15 days to destroy North Korea's artillery in range of Seoul. It also estimates that 15 million South Koreans die in the bombardment. Seoul is the densest populated city in the western world. If the north can hit any thing in a 40 mile radius, they will cause mass casualties. Yes most of the North's artillery is outdated, but it is also simple to maintain. It would be nearly useless on the modern battlefield, but it will work just fine if the goal is to hit a target the size of a city.
Some will claim that the estimate of 15 million dead is unrealistic. Let's be wildly optimistic about U.S.'s military capability, and wildly pessimistic about the North's ability to strike Seoul. In that case, if the estimates are off even by a factor of 10; 1.5 million South Korean's still die.
A full blown Korean conflict will not be another Iraq. Millions of Koreans would die. Remember, in both Iraq wars we had months to move our forces in place. Thus we were able to fight the battle on our terms. Korea on the other hand, would most likely catch us with our pants down.
 
2010-05-24 07:09:54 AM
In South Korea, so totally NOT getting a kick out of this...

/god damn ajima-faced oversexed cancerous narcissistic twatling
 
2010-05-24 07:10:28 AM
Don't these assholes realize Obama is President? Didn't they get the memo? Unicorns and rainbows? They are obviously racist.
 
2010-05-24 07:14:58 AM
most importantly, stop its belligerent and threatening behavior

you hear that China? Something we should have done long ago...
 
2010-05-24 07:15:03 AM
NewportBarGuy: I wonder how, exactly, we can take out 11,000 artillery positions before they kill half the people in Seoul.

Your resources. You might need to double-check them.
 
2010-05-24 07:20:58 AM
RosevilleDan: Would somebody please make a M*A*S*H joke already!

i'm from iowa and stuck in korea in the u.s. army. close?
 
2010-05-24 07:21:05 AM
"South Korea suspends trade with North Korea"

In other news, South Korea was trading with North Korea.
 
2010-05-24 07:23:18 AM
1) Airdrop/infiltrate 1,000,000 netbooks into NK and task a satellite to provide Internet access to said netbooks.

2) Netbooks get passed around, people realize that, despite what the government has been telling them, they're *not* actually the best and coolest country in the world beset by bloodthirsty outsiders.

3) NK people revolt and topple government.

4) Cost: $500,000,000. US Casualties: 0. Ending NK regime? Priceless.
 
2010-05-24 07:26:04 AM
How about we come up with a military objective of retaking the USS Pueblo, and just plow through anyone and anything that tries to stand in our way?
 
2010-05-24 07:26:15 AM
jasimo: 1) Airdrop/infiltrate 1,000,000 netbooks into NK and task a satellite to provide Internet access to said netbooks.

2) Netbooks get passed around, people realize that, despite what the government has been telling them, they're *not* actually the best and coolest country in the world beset by bloodthirsty outsiders.

3) NK people revolt and topple government.

4) Cost: $500,000,000. US Casualties: 0. Ending NK regime? Priceless.


Careful now. We wouldn't want someone trying that with US.
 
2010-05-24 07:27:39 AM
jasimo: 1) Airdrop/infiltrate 1,000,000 netbooks into NK and task a satellite to provide Internet access to said netbooks.

2) Netbooks get passed around, people realize that, despite what the government has been telling them, they're *not* actually the best and coolest country in the world beset by bloodthirsty outsiders.

3) NK people revolt and topple government.

4) Cost: $500,000,000. US Casualties: 0. Ending NK regime? Priceless.


Good plan, except for the part about how the folks in NK have no electricity with which to build and maintain an electrical charge for the netbook batteries.

Plus, they're sufficiently brainwashed that your netbook plan wouldn't work even WITH electricity.
 
2010-05-24 07:28:09 AM
jasimo: 1) Airdrop/infiltrate 1,000,000 netbooks into NK and task a satellite to provide Internet access to said netbooks.

2) Netbooks get passed around, people realize that, despite what the government has been telling them, they're *not* actually the best and coolest country in the world beset by bloodthirsty outsiders.

3) NK people revolt and topple government.

4) Cost: $500,000,000. US Casualties: 0. Ending NK regime? Priceless.


I used to think that the free flow of information was the answer. In fact, I advocated this idea several years ago re the middle east.

I've changed my mind, though.

Free and open access to the internet hasn't done a thing for the Politics tab.
 
2010-05-24 07:29:24 AM
Nemo's Brother: Don't these assholes realize Obama is President? Didn't they get the memo? Unicorns and rainbows? They are obviously racist.

Response from the Republic[an] of Korea?
 
2010-05-24 07:30:32 AM
Didn't Bush pull out one of the US divisions in Korea (but left the heavy equipment there) in order to deploy them to Iraq? Did they ever return to SK or are we under manned over there.

For that matter, are all the air squadrons there or have some been shifted to Iraq/Afghanistan?
 
2010-05-24 07:33:11 AM
Wasn't much of a trade, really... Cars, stereos and TVs for sandals made from old tires and cases of American C-rats.
 
2010-05-24 07:41:00 AM
King Something: jasimo: 1) Airdrop/infiltrate 1,000,000 netbooks into NK and task a satellite to provide Internet access to said netbooks.

2) Netbooks get passed around, people realize that, despite what the government has been telling them, they're *not* actually the best and coolest country in the world beset by bloodthirsty outsiders.

3) NK people revolt and topple government.

4) Cost: $500,000,000. US Casualties: 0. Ending NK regime? Priceless.

Good plan, except for the part about how the folks in NK have no electricity with which to build and maintain an electrical charge for the netbook batteries.

Plus, they're sufficiently brainwashed that your netbook plan wouldn't work even WITH electricity.


They're hand-cranked, of course.

Seeing how advanced the rest of the world is -- when they've been told their country is the best will not convince everybody (despite the overwhelming evidence), but it will convince enough, I think, to begin mass protests both among the citizenry and among the military.

They think Kim Jung Il and his dad created the best government the world has ever seen. A few hours surfing the net will be a shocking wakeup call for most people.
 
2010-05-24 07:45:36 AM
Xaneidolon: Free and open access to the internet hasn't done a thing for the Politics tab.

You have to factor in that the politics tab is ruled by asshats that appear to have some stake in driving page views. I expect eventually it will come out that they are in the employ of the site owners to generate more revenue.

The only other option I can think of is that they are so pathetic and desperate for attention that any attention is an adequate substitute for normal human interaction.
 
2010-05-24 07:46:49 AM
www.theorderls.com

Where I'll be if anyone needs me over the next week.

/not really
//if I lived in south korea I'd be wishing I had one right about now
 
2010-05-24 07:47:36 AM
lisarenee3505: China is about a half-step away from pulling their support from NK to begin with. They are tired of Kim Jong Ill's bullshiat and posturing, and the damage it does to their other international relations. China has done what many said was impossible, they have made a capitalist economy actually work withing the construct of a communist government, and they aren't about the jeapordize their business relations over shiatty little NK, which is nothing but a drain on their resources and money. If SK decides to bring this thing to a head, we'll see China quietly back away and leave NK to it's fate. NK has no real military to speak of because the vast majority of their "soldiers" are conscripts who would honestly rather not live under the insane dictatorship of Kim. They will end up doing the same thing that the majority of the Iraqi military did, throw down their weapons and surrender the first chance they get. Their military technology is about 20 years behind SK, and while they might get in a few lucky strikes, SK and it's allies would roll over them in a matter of days.

i.imgur.com


Critically Evaluating the Logic and Validity of Information
http://academic.cuesta.edu/acasupp/as/403.htm
 
2010-05-24 07:47:41 AM
Bendal: Didn't Bush pull out one of the US divisions in Korea (but left the heavy equipment there) in order to deploy them to Iraq? Did they ever return to SK or are we under manned over there.

For that matter, are all the air squadrons there or have some been shifted to Iraq/Afghanistan?


Yes and No. I wouldn't say the deployment changes are a Bush era doctrine. Nixon, Carter, Bush I, Clinton all were in Office during significant changes.

Global Security Entry on US Force S Korea Order of Battle (popsiclelical)
 
2010-05-24 07:49:23 AM
Freak: They were trading with them?

South Korea has been trying for years to open North Korea to trade, so people can visit family north of the DMZ. South Korea wants re-unification, but North Korea wants to stay separate or conquer South Korea.
 
2010-05-24 07:52:47 AM
x1v16: Where I'll be if anyone needs me over the next week.

/not really
//if I lived in south korea I'd be wishing I had one right about now


it's called the Seoul Metro and a bajillion shopping concourses, transfer passages, utility ducts, connector tunnels, serviceways, and ridiculously oversized overpasses

/seriously, Seoul has almost as much undercity as upper city
//just few permanent residents down there
///loves playing "how many blocks/neighborhoods can we cross without leaving interior space?" on Seoul trips
 
2010-05-24 07:53:40 AM
Ablejack: Nemo's Brother: Don't these assholes realize Obama is President? Didn't they get the memo? Unicorns and rainbows? They are obviously racist.

Response from the Republic[an] of Korea?


Well, it was started by the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea.
 
2010-05-24 07:55:24 AM
jasimo:
They think Kim Jung Il and his dad created the best government the world has ever seen. A few hours surfing the net will be a shocking wakeup call for most people.


This.

You cannot honestly fault these people who know of nothing else. I can not even imagine the task of attempting to convince them of anything than what they know. Have fun Civil Affairs units. I recommend not allowing the civilian population near any cliffs with jagged rocks below. As far as these people know, the outside world wants to do evil things to their naughty bits.
 
2010-05-24 07:56:54 AM
nunzioweb.com
 
2010-05-24 07:58:05 AM
Xaneidolon: jasimo: 1) Airdrop/infiltrate 1,000,000 netbooks into NK and task a satellite to provide Internet access to said netbooks.

2) Netbooks get passed around, people realize that, despite what the government has been telling them, they're *not* actually the best and coolest country in the world beset by bloodthirsty outsiders.

3) NK people revolt and topple government.

4) Cost: $500,000,000. US Casualties: 0. Ending NK regime? Priceless.

I used to think that the free flow of information was the answer. In fact, I advocated this idea several years ago re the middle east.

I've changed my mind, though.

Free and open access to the internet hasn't done a thing for the Politics tab.


That is because politics is based on emotion thus not rational. It is similar to how people chose a mate. In China, most of the people are Nationalist (65%). They see any outside threat as a threat to their country, but not so much as a threat to their Communist Party (which they don't really support). Their fears are not rational. It is a sticky wicket.
 
2010-05-24 07:58:58 AM
MoonPirate: jasimo:
They think Kim Jung Il and his dad created the best government the world has ever seen. A few hours surfing the net will be a shocking wakeup call for most people.

This.

You cannot honestly fault these people who know of nothing else. I can not even imagine the task of attempting to convince them of anything than what they know. Have fun Civil Affairs units. I recommend not allowing the civilian population near any cliffs with jagged rocks below. As far as these people know, the outside world wants to do evil things to their naughty bits.


taken with a grain of salt, a fairly large one, at that, the book Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader suggests that the brainwashing, at least in regards to Kim Jong Il, if not his father, is breaking down in the general population.
 
2010-05-24 07:59:56 AM
Dialectic: I just hope they don't ration the kimchi.

My Korean Supermarket sells awesome kimchi.


Where is it?

/Hard to get good kimchi around here.
 
2010-05-24 08:01:06 AM
MoonPirate: jasimo:
They think Kim Jung Il and his dad created the best government the world has ever seen. A few hours surfing the net will be a shocking wakeup call for most people.

This.

You cannot honestly fault these people who know of nothing else. I can not even imagine the task of attempting to convince them of anything than what they know. Have fun Civil Affairs units. I recommend not allowing the civilian population near any cliffs with jagged rocks below. As far as these people know, the outside world wants to do evil things to their naughty bits.


I think that we have capable psy-ops guys, and though difficult, an effective campaign could be waged with flyer drops, radio transmissions (air and sea based) and a variety of other tried and true methods, not the least of which including food drops with our message on the wrappers.
 
2010-05-24 08:03:48 AM
TigerStar: lisarenee3505: China is about a half-step away from pulling their support from NK to begin with. They are tired of Kim Jong Ill's bullshiat and posturing, and the damage it does to their other international relations. China has done what many said was impossible, they have made a capitalist economy actually work withing the construct of a communist government, and they aren't about the jeapordize their business relations over shiatty little NK, which is nothing but a drain on their resources and money. If SK decides to bring this thing to a head, we'll see China quietly back away and leave NK to it's fate. NK has no real military to speak of because the vast majority of their "soldiers" are conscripts who would honestly rather not live under the insane dictatorship of Kim. They will end up doing the same thing that the majority of the Iraqi military did, throw down their weapons and surrender the first chance they get. Their military technology is about 20 years behind SK, and while they might get in a few lucky strikes, SK and it's allies would roll over them in a matter of days.

Critically Evaluating the Logic and Validity of Information
http://academic.cuesta.edu/acasupp/as/403.htm


There's a lot of blah blah blah in there, but the long and short of it is that the US is far and away China's largest trade partner, and they aren't going to endanger that relationship on behalf of DPRK.
 
2010-05-24 08:10:40 AM
jingks: Well, if you Americans finished thing properly in '53 this wouldn't be an issue. Bunch of lazy quitters.

/ too lazy to troll properly


That was mainly MacArthur's fault. MacArthur ignored Truman's orders and a fundamental law of warfare. If there is a nation that is inclined to side with your enemy but currently neutral in the conflict, make sure they stay neutral. If they join the fight, you will lose. In the American revolution, it was France. In WWI and WWII, it was the US. In Korea, MacArthur ignored orders to stay away from the Chinese border in order to keep China neutral. MacArthur got too close, so China joined the fight on North Korea's side. The war was almost over with a South Korean victory, until that happened. It wound up as a draw.

/tl;dr
//MacArthur farked up the war
///slashies
 
2010-05-24 08:12:37 AM
I CAN FIX THIS!!!

SERIUSLY GUYS

1.Blizzard, you tell NK they no get SC2 unless Kim's head is on a pike.
2.???
3.Profit


//prob would be better than a "wanted dead or alive" reward the last monkey in office did
 
2010-05-24 08:13:25 AM
firefly212: TigerStar: lisarenee3505: China is about a half-step away from pulling their support from NK to begin with. They are tired of Kim Jong Ill's bullshiat and posturing, and the damage it does to their other international relations. China has done what many said was impossible, they have made a capitalist economy actually work withing the construct of a communist government, and they aren't about the jeapordize their business relations over shiatty little NK, which is nothing but a drain on their resources and money. If SK decides to bring this thing to a head, we'll see China quietly back away and leave NK to it's fate. NK has no real military to speak of because the vast majority of their "soldiers" are conscripts who would honestly rather not live under the insane dictatorship of Kim. They will end up doing the same thing that the majority of the Iraqi military did, throw down their weapons and surrender the first chance they get. Their military technology is about 20 years behind SK, and while they might get in a few lucky strikes, SK and it's allies would roll over them in a matter of days.

Critically Evaluating the Logic and Validity of Information
http://academic.cuesta.edu/acasupp/as/403.htm

There's a lot of blah blah blah in there, but the long and short of it is that the US is far and away China's largest trade partner, and they aren't going to endanger that relationship on behalf of DPRK.


But it works both ways.

China may say to Kim: "Fark you, you're on your own."

Given the global recession and the fact they are "The Factory of the World", they may decide that NK is a liability they no longer need.
 
2010-05-24 08:15:14 AM
Defiance_: Weaver95: probably not all that many. their one and only test was a 'wet firecracker', not to mention that more than a few of their missile tests kept getting 'accidentally' shot down by various people. They could probably pop a short range nuke at a close neighbor but not much else. if they really wanted to be bastards tho, they'd slam Japan with an EMP. Even if they just hit Tokyo with it, that might be enough to trigger an economic meltdown.

It's hard to hear what you're saying what with your butt muffling the sound like that. Just pop off an EMP over Japan? Really? They can't even get 50's era nuclear weapons to go off.


It's about time someone else recognized Weaver95 has NO idea what he is talking about. They guy talks like he knows of most everything, yet he is constantly on Fark. What does that tell you?

\cue the pick of the really fat guy who obviously never leaves the computer in the basement.
 
2010-05-24 08:17:43 AM
 
2010-05-24 08:23:12 AM
nmemkha: China may say to Kim: "Fark you, you're on your own."

Given the global recession and the fact they are "The Factory of the World", they may decide that NK is a liability they no longer need.


China *CAN'T* do that. They border on NK. If there is one thing the government of the PRC does *NOT* want, it's instability, and they'll get that in spades if they just try to wash their hands of the situation.

No, the PRC is inextricably interwound with North Korea economically, politically, and geographically. They can't just walk away, and I think Kim Jong Il understands this and exploits it on occasion. The PRC leadership recognizes it also.
 
2010-05-24 08:24:31 AM
TigerStar: lisarenee3505: China is about a half-step away from pulling their support from NK to begin with. They are tired of Kim Jong Ill's bullshiat and posturing, and the damage it does to their other international relations. China has done what many said was impossible, they have made a capitalist economy actually work withing the construct of a communist government, and they aren't about the jeapordize jeopardize their business relations over shiatty little NK, which is nothing but a drain on their resources and money. If SK decides to bring this thing to a head, we'll see China quietly back away and leave NK to it's fate. NK has no real military to speak of because the vast majority of their "soldiers" are conscripts who would honestly rather not live under the insane dictatorship of Kim. They will end up doing the same thing that the majority of the Iraqi military did, throw down their weapons and surrender the first chance they get. Their military technology is about 20 years behind SK, and while they might get in a few lucky strikes, SK and it's its allies would roll over them in a matter of days.

Critically Evaluating the Logic and Validity of Information
http://academic.cuesta.edu/acasupp/as/403.htm


Happy someone beat me to the [citation needed]. On the minus side, I guess I'm just left with Grammar Nazi duties.
 
2010-05-24 08:26:42 AM
firefly212: TigerStar: lisarenee3505: China is about a half-step away from pulling their support from NK to begin with. They are tired of Kim Jong Ill's bullshiat and posturing, and the damage it does to their other international relations. China has done what many said was impossible, they have made a capitalist economy actually work withing the construct of a communist government, and they aren't about the jeapordize their business relations over shiatty little NK, which is nothing but a drain on their resources and money. If SK decides to bring this thing to a head, we'll see China quietly back away and leave NK to it's fate. NK has no real military to speak of because the vast majority of their "soldiers" are conscripts who would honestly rather not live under the insane dictatorship of Kim. They will end up doing the same thing that the majority of the Iraqi military did, throw down their weapons and surrender the first chance they get. Their military technology is about 20 years behind SK, and while they might get in a few lucky strikes, SK and it's allies would roll over them in a matter of days.

Critically Evaluating the Logic and Validity of Information
http://academic.cuesta.edu/acasupp/as/403.htm

There's a lot of blah blah blah in there, but the long and short of it is that the US is far and away China's largest trade partner, and they aren't going to endanger that relationship on behalf of DPRK.


How do you know what the USA government's response will be? Can you read tea leaves?
 
2010-05-24 08:28:18 AM
www.paintballshop.com
 
2010-05-24 08:34:00 AM
dittybopper: nmemkha: China may say to Kim: "Fark you, you're on your own."

Given the global recession and the fact they are "The Factory of the World", they may decide that NK is a liability they no longer need.

China *CAN'T* do that. They border on NK. If there is one thing the government of the PRC does *NOT* want, it's instability, and they'll get that in spades if they just try to wash their hands of the situation.

No, the PRC is inextricably interwound with North Korea economically, politically, and geographically. They can't just walk away, and I think Kim Jong Il understands this and exploits it on occasion. The PRC leadership recognizes it also.


You have good point, but I still think that China may decide to cut its losses. China does not want a nuclear armed PRC anymore than the rest of us. China may decide that it will deal the problem itself.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
2010-05-24 08:35:23 AM
Aw crap. And I just paid off my car, too!
 
2010-05-24 08:35:29 AM
nmemkha: dittybopper: nmemkha: China may say to Kim: "Fark you, you're on your own."

Given the global recession and the fact they are "The Factory of the World", they may decide that NK is a liability they no longer need.

China *CAN'T* do that. They border on NK. If there is one thing the government of the PRC does *NOT* want, it's instability, and they'll get that in spades if they just try to wash their hands of the situation.

No, the PRC is inextricably interwound with North Korea economically, politically, and geographically. They can't just walk away, and I think Kim Jong Il understands this and exploits it on occasion. The PRC leadership recognizes it also.

You have good point, but I still think that China may decide to cut its losses. China does not want a nuclear armed PRC DPRK anymore than the rest of us. China may decide that it will deal the problem itself.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.


/FTFY (and not to be snotty, I just could see people being confused/trollish about the distinction)
 
2010-05-24 08:37:02 AM
Anodos: nmemkha: dittybopper: nmemkha: China may say to Kim: "Fark you, you're on your own."

Given the global recession and the fact they are "The Factory of the World", they may decide that NK is a liability they no longer need.

China *CAN'T* do that. They border on NK. If there is one thing the government of the PRC does *NOT* want, it's instability, and they'll get that in spades if they just try to wash their hands of the situation.

No, the PRC is inextricably interwound with North Korea economically, politically, and geographically. They can't just walk away, and I think Kim Jong Il understands this and exploits it on occasion. The PRC leadership recognizes it also.

You have good point, but I still think that China may decide to cut its losses. China does not want a nuclear armed PRC DPRK anymore than the rest of us. China may decide that it will deal the problem itself.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

/FTFY (and not to be snotty, I just could see people being confused/trollish about the distinction)


You are correct, I meant the DPRK. Thank you for clarifying my post.
 
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