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2001-10-04 02:33:11 AM
Sorry Meat, I was just now reading another thread and saw your name there. I forgot there was an account with that name and headed back here just to see if something was said. Turns out there was. Just an honest mistake, no mockery intended. Although the reference to schooling meat was sort of a mockery or Leopold Porkstackers "he who stacks pork." Apologies galore to you and yours, and a wonderful night to all. I'm going to bed.

And btw.. I do post.. just rather infrequently.

Have a glorious day everyone!
 
2001-10-04 02:34:55 AM
They really need to boot out Dubya and stick in Gore... god i hate Dubya, and I was a Texan.
 
2001-10-04 02:42:13 AM
"Getting a blowjob isn't a crime.Lying in civil court about it is.Clinton shoudv'e been impeached,the perv!"

Bush lied in court. He and Clinton are guilty of the same crime (perjury), yet one remains unpunished.

Meat: you beat me to it. I find it amusing how people can continue to bash Clinton for what he did, but get pissed off at others when they won't let the election thing go.

We were farked from the beginning, anyway. Bush or Gore is like choosing 150 lashings or 72 knife stabs.

If you want to talk about hypocracy, we can look at all the money Gore got from companies working against the environment.... I believe someone already brought up some Bush ones, which furthers my point that we were screwed the minute the parties made these people their runners.

And looking at the article and site, it is almost more biased than News Max. Except this site made me laugh with it's vast left wing conspiracy (since vast right wing conspiracies usually make more coverage due to biased news sites).
 
2001-10-04 02:43:14 AM
er.. with their vast left wing conspiracy theories, rather
 
2001-10-04 02:59:09 AM
meatschool: it's all good. i was just curious.
 
2001-10-04 04:00:12 AM
Bush sucks. Everyone knows it. Too bad Gore didn't fight dirty enough to keep up with the flim flam.
 
2001-10-04 04:37:12 AM
Gore won, its true. Its been known since the recounts were prohibited due to "time constraints". That being said, I refuse to become as nearsighted as the the Clinton haters who refused to see he actually did good things for the country. Right now, I am very impressed with the way Bush & Company inc. are hadling the situation. With so many war hawks in power, I am pleasantly surprised to see we havent blown up everything and anything that moves in the mid east, and we are working with others, not using them (not yet at least). To start pushing the fact that he isn't the true president right now would be as petty as the Supreme Court barring Clinton from having cases in front of them. They are so full of themselves that they needed to prove thier supremeness over clinton during a time when the country needs to be united. Just jeep your eyes on what Bush is up to, fight what needs to be fought against. Congress is refusing to pass the Bush antiterroism bill in its entirety, due to the clause which would allow the feds to hold a foreigner in custody without a charge, indefinetly (BAD Bush, Bad). Although I tend to side with the Democrats more than Republicans, I think that the Democrats don't have the balls to enter into and stay in the mess that is required to rid the world of this threat. Democrats don't play dirty enough. We probably need Bush in this dog fight, and he Definetly needs this to prove his leadership (still need Gore for better environment). Bush cleans up terrorists, we reelect Gore to clean up the environment after. Sorry for the diatribe, needed to vent.
 
2001-10-04 05:09:38 AM
pgm: i was tracking until you got to the "re-elect gore" bit. seriously, the only real difference between gore and bush on the environment is what they say about it. i happened to be walking by the key arena in seattle, where gore announced that he was running for president, and by far the majority of people protesting it were environmentalists. at least when bush is screwing up the environment, he's not hiding it and lying about it.
 
2001-10-04 05:13:02 AM
Heh. Doesn't Gore own some really dirty fossil fuel burning thingy in Arkansas? I'm fairly certain I saw something concerning that. I figure that kinda sends up the hypocrisy flag for me. Oh, and doesn't he have a bunch of children? Lots of young new resource wasters to despoil the environment! Heh.

And it's my opinion that Bush is the legitimate president. Every single recount result that I saw showed Bush in the lead. And just as many Republicans dislike Clinton over some really piddling crap, many Democrats dislike Bush because they came oh-so-close to winning, and still lost. The bitterness of a dream denied. Personally, I am reasonably pleased with Clinton's terms. I don't even hold that blowjob incidence against him. I wouldn't care if the lips wrapped around his johnny belonged to a 5 year old boy if that's what it took to keep this country running.
Blah. Rereading this, it seems quite muddled and jumps all over the place. Blah. I'm too tired to try and fix it.
 
2001-10-04 06:22:41 AM
If your ex VP was playing bass, and got together with a guitarist and a drummer, would that be...

The Al Gore rhythm section??!
 
2001-10-04 06:57:51 AM
Bobo555, Bush was not chosen by "the people of America." He was chosen by the Electoral College. the "people of America" chose GORE! He won the popular vote. I am over the Bush "win", for lack of a better word. I think it will turn out to be the same sort of amusing situation that happened with his father.

After dubya's father had won the Gulf War, he STILL lost his bid for reelection due to the crappy economy. Of course, if he had not spent 80000 billion dollars of our taxes bailing out his son's in the savings and loan scandal maybe the economy would not have been in such bad shape.

Dubya is riding high on his approval rating, but even if he manages to not totally fark up this "war on terrorism" I still see deja vous all over again.
 
2001-10-04 08:20:16 AM
Bobo555, before you run around calling people commies, perhaps you should consider showing some respect for ol' glory and turning the flag in your bio rightside up. Sheesh. Why don't you just put an animation of a burning flag up there, you , you, you, uh, commie?
 
2001-10-04 08:21:01 AM


He lost. It's over. Get over it.
 
2001-10-04 08:26:22 AM
Tooney: There is nothing disrespectful in flying the flag upside down. It however is a distress signal (IE. SOS).
Apparently Bobo is distressed about something.
 
2001-10-04 08:43:34 AM
4Score: I know, I just thought it would be fun to call him a commie. Come to think of it, you're all commies. Commies!

Okay, now I feel better.
 
2001-10-04 08:44:36 AM
Y'know what? I voted for Gore. I wanted him to win.

I also love the X-Files, and love a good conspiracy theory.

But if anyone believes for one minute that EVERY news outlet in the nation (with the exception of BuzzFlash, the left-wing equivalent of NewsMax) squashed this story, they need to wake the hell up.

Bush is the president, until he isn't. People need to learn to deal with reality, and get on with life.
 
2001-10-04 08:50:26 AM
4Score&7BeersAgo... the inverted flag is more than just a sign of distress.
it is a sign of abandonment caused by distress.
Jump to the '2 yr old w/.31 alcohol thread'. I've posted links in there.
 
2001-10-04 08:57:41 AM
News Flash:
Dick Cheney is our president. Bush is too dumb to run a country.

Face it, Bush is retarded and has farked up everything he's worked on (reversal on C02 emissions, Kyoto, ANWAR, worthless missile defense, 3rd world debt, AIDS help in Africa, etc.)

He's an idiot and you know it.
 
K
2001-10-04 08:59:53 AM
Walken for president.

and what the hell is misunderestimate...?
 
2001-10-04 09:05:11 AM
*YAWN*
 
2001-10-04 09:10:31 AM
Al Gore is a loser plan and simple and all we still hear from his suporters(who are all morons) is "We won lets keep counting or we'll hold our breath, WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH" Thank God he is not our president at this time. We can thank him and Clinton for having a military 40% smaller than it was during the Gulf war at a time when we could really use it. Pansies.
 
2001-10-04 09:16:29 AM
Article looks like pure fiction to me. What would AlGore's reaction been 9/11? Now that is a scary thought!
 
2001-10-04 09:20:47 AM
By the way Meat. Clinton WAS in fact impeached. Look it up in the dictionary because you obviously don't kow what inpeach means. And it was not for getting a blow job but for comitting perjury which he most assuredly did.
 
2001-10-04 09:28:56 AM
Maybe this will clear things up. Definition 2 applies here.

impeach \Im*peach"\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Impeached; p. pr. & vb. n. Impeaching.] [OE. empeechier to prevent, hinder, bar, F. emp[^e]cher, L. impedicare to entangle; pref. im- in + pedica fetter, fr. pes, pedis, foot. See Foot, and Appeach, Dispatch, Impede.]

1. To hinder; to impede; to prevent. [Obs.]

These ungracious practices of his sons did impeach his journey to the Holy Land. --Sir J. Davies.

A defluxion on my throat impeached my utterance. --Howell.

2. To charge with a crime or misdemeanor; to accuse; especially to charge (a public officer), before a competent tribunal, with misbehavior in office; to cite before a tribunal for judgement of official misconduct; to arraign; as, to impeach a judge. See Impeachment.

3. Hence, to charge with impropriety; to dishonor; to bring discredit on; to call in question; as, to impeach one's motives or conduct.

And doth impeach the freedom of the state. --Shak.

4. (Law) To challenge or discredit the credibility of, as of a witness, or the validity of, as of commercial paper.

Note: When used in law with reference to a witness, the term signifies, to discredit, to show or prove unreliable or unworthy of belief; when used in reference to the credit of witness, the term denotes, to impair, to lessen, to disparage, to destroy. The credit of a witness may be impeached by showing that he has made statements out of court contradictory to what he swears at the trial, or by showing that his reputation for veracity is bad, etc.

Syn: To accuse; arraign; censure; criminate; indict; impair; disparage; discredit. See Accuse

Now THAT spells Clinton
 
2001-10-04 09:37:52 AM
This just in:

According to a source whose previous information has proven to be accurate, but will go unnamed to promote this conspiracy theory, and hide the fact that this is a joke, the recent Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore never really existed. Advancing on the technology introduced in the 1980's with Max Headroom, the Al Gore our country saw was no more real than Lara Croft. While this technology was known to have existed, nobody believed that it could actually be used to create a dynamic, exciting, viable candidate for the presidency. Democratic officials declined to comment.
 
2001-10-04 09:43:58 AM
Hey Bigpeeler. You call that a beard? LOL
 
2001-10-04 09:55:41 AM
Talk about a friggin dead horse.

With all of what's happened, I've seen more people who voted for Gore say that they are so glad we have someone like W in da house.
 
2001-10-04 10:01:37 AM
Did anyone else bother to go up one level and see what else this site contains? This should be labeled satire.
 
2001-10-04 10:07:33 AM
If people would look at this logically instead of along party lines, there wouldn't be that much of a debate. If Bush was in Gore's shoes and vice-versa, they would have done the same things their opponent had done. It's all about winning. And if the situation was reversed, Gore supporters would be saying to get over it, and Bush supporters would be saying that Gore is not the real president. Each did what they had to do to win, and if that means using the Supreme Court, acting confident to confirm your beliefs, and asking for recount upon recount, so be it. In my opinion, both men had a valid case for claiming victory and should have acted upon it as fervently as possible.

PS - If the Liberal media is out to get the Evil right-wingers, why did they suppress this story about their boy winning? Why did they cover Monicagate anyway, when they could have done a Rather and said "This isn't really news, and we won't stoop to that base of a level"? Hmmm...maybe the media is doing a semi-OK job if both sides are unhappy? It's all about reading between the lines and consulting more than one source in order to obtain the "truth". Never take what one source says at face value.
 
2001-10-04 11:03:23 AM
That damn liberal media--out to cover up a clear....

oh wait, wrong thread.
 
2001-10-04 11:26:31 AM
Sounds like a whine made from sour grapes.

The joke Clinton Admisnistation is over...
 
2001-10-04 11:50:28 AM
Bush is an idiot. A certifiable bonafide idiot. I can't believe that the average college student of today is smarter than our own president...I'd right more but I have to take my girlfriend to get another abortion.

War democrats,
Out.
 
2001-10-04 11:53:52 AM
Would that last post be ?
 
2001-10-04 12:01:58 PM
McBerry: Bush is an idiot. A certifiable bonafide idiot.

D: What were YOUR grades at Harvard and Yale, Einstein?
 
2001-10-04 12:10:29 PM
All I have to say is Demorcracy Fails.....
 
2001-10-04 12:12:56 PM
Clanjade: All I have to say is Demorcracy Fails.....

D: Fails to what? (You got a better idea?)
 
2001-10-04 12:16:27 PM
Byort: If the Liberal media is out to get the Evil right-wingers, why did they suppress this story about their boy winning?

D: Because their boy (Gore) did NOT win. Not in a single hand count, and not even after all the shouting was over with the after-the-fact RE-counts.

Gore LOST. That's why BUSH is the President.
 
2001-10-04 12:41:13 PM
Point is...if they're so gosh-darn sure that he won, why aren't they going with the story anyway? And this is exactly what I'm talking about..."Bush won the Florida vote". "Gore won the popular vote". Don't blame me...I didn't vote for either! (But I am VERY thankful that President Nader is not presiding now!)
 
2001-10-04 12:44:42 PM
John Edwards called with a message from the horse: "Stop flogging me!"
 
2001-10-04 01:23:14 PM
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ok, but seriously now, over half the american public that's registered to vote DIDN'T last time, Gore won the popular vote, but f'd up bad trying to strategically recount instead of calling for a runoff. It's over, he ran a terrible campaign anyway, 'nuff said. President Elect Bush II will keep getting to do whatever he wants until his time to leave comes, he will not be re-elected.

Byort hit the nail on the head, if the situations were reversed we would have seen the same behavior, just maybe not the same outcome (supreme court). It's not a party issue, it's a 'trying to win' issue, the entire thing is marketed as a contest by the media anyway.

The media dropped the story like a dirty diaper, considering how much they hyped and flogged it at the time it's not surprising, how could it be anything but yesterdays news? It was not 'covered up' so much as intentionally left by the wayside.

all we can do is learn from it.
 
2001-10-04 01:32:13 PM
A) Get over it already!

B) If Gore had won his own farking state, he'd be president. And we'd be screwed
 
2001-10-04 01:47:19 PM
Yeah, I'm thankful Nader isn't in also. And I'm REALLY thankful Bush IS in. Think about the difference in administration: Cheney vs. Lieberman. Eesh.

Here's a quote from a retired army General about this war on terrorism...

"We are going to disrupt these people through preemptive attack ... we will deceive them, we will run psyops on them, at selected points and times they will be killed suddenly, in significant numbers, and without warning. Tomahawk missiles, 2000 pound laser guided weapons dropped from B2's or F22's at very high altitude, remote control, booby traps, blackmail and at places, small groups of soldiers or SEALs will appear in total darkness, blow down the doors and kill them at close range with automatic weapons and hand grenades. We will find their money and freeze it. We will arrest their front agents. We will operate against their recruiting and transportation functions. We will locate their training areas and surveil or mine them. We will isolate them from their families. We will try to dominate their communication function and alternately listen, jam or spoof it. We will make their couriers disappear. If we can find out how they eat, or play or receive rewards, or where they sleep -- we will go there and kill them by surprise."

When the chips are really really down, the true philosophy of the PEOPLE is always conservatism.
 
2001-10-04 03:35:24 PM
I would have doubted the credibility of this no-name author, but then I saw it was the world reknowned David Podvin. It must all be true!
 
2001-10-04 03:45:33 PM
The thread was long so this may have already been said but, if Gore had carried his home state he would have won the election, without Florida.
 
2001-10-04 04:31:46 PM
First of all, we have to deal with the opssibility of an extended war, and it will not help to have half of the country still arguing that their candidate did not win because the election was fixed. Let's recognize that we are one country under one president and work to defend our own, rather than being defeated under our own infighting.

Secondly, it seems that the popular media in general have been very clear on the point that most of their support is for politically liberal causes. If their major funding is from pro-republicans who *really* pull the strings, then these predominant backers have not so far managed to force these newspapers to refrain from slamming other republican candidates or blatantly supporting democratic candidates, even in news stories that are supposed to be neutral. If these "banks" really have so much power over the mainstream media, and lean so toward the right, why did they not work to block two Clinton administrations(rather tahn supporting them), which were far more damaging to republican goals than Al Gore ever would have been?

Finally, I must agree with the opster above, who said "thank God for the electoral college." My children are home schooled, because, among other reasons, we have "alternative values" which we wish to pass on to our children, and which are implicitly contradicted by most public schools. We realize that our, non-majority, values cannot hold sway in the school system of a society where the majority is supposed to rule, so we take it upon ourselves to give our children an "alternative" education. Al Gore, on the other hand, stated publicly that he did not want us to continue to have the right to do this; that it should not be legal. Figuratively speaking, with the majority popular vote in his favor, Al Gore was all set to "hang" us, but in the electoral college, "the rope broke." I disagree with the electoral college in theory, but this time it rescued my rights. Say whatever you want to about this election, but I am glad it is over.
 
2001-10-04 04:57:15 PM
The Electoral College is a good thing. It prevents Texas and California from swallowing up states like Rhode Island.
 
2001-10-04 07:44:06 PM
Tex: I'm conservative, but "homeshooled" kids are psycho.
 
2001-10-04 07:45:27 PM
That's "homeschooled" not "homeshooled"

I'm obviously educated by the public school system.
 
2001-10-04 07:46:22 PM
Wuzzat? Who'd want to do such a thing?
 
2001-10-04 08:18:10 PM
Bildo

Would love to know how many "homeshooled" kids you know, that you can authoritatively say that they are psycho.

Statistically they do better on standardized tests, in college, etc, etc, etc...

Additionally, many of the early leaders of this country were schooled at home.

Incidentally, homeschooling isn't even a particularly conservative thing-the movement started in the 60s with liberals who were concerned about the "conservative slant" in public schools.

At any rate, I guess those of us who are willing to give up our "me" time to try for a better future for our children are pretty psycho, too.
 
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