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2001-10-04 12:07:41 AM
Please. Game's over. The lights are out. The gym is closed. Put your thumb back in your mouth, pull up your diaper and go on home. It is over.

Wait, this just in. Dewey actually DID beat Truman. Whew.
 
2001-10-04 12:09:26 AM
This is obvious? If it has said Gore lost it would of been obvious considering that Gore never was ahead despite all the counts, recounts, extra recounts, counts after the election, etc, etc.

Here's the Miami Herald from April 4, 2001
http://www.miami.com/herald/special/news/flacount/docs/032868.htm

"What would have happened if the U.S. Supreme Court had not halted the sweeping recount of undervotes -- ballots without presidential votes detected by counting machines -- ordered by the Florida Supreme Court on Dec. 8, a month after the November election?

The answer: under almost all scenarios, Bush still would have won"

AF
http://www.brassknuckles.net
 
2001-10-04 12:15:59 AM
If Gore won, then why did every single one of the 2347823784827342398 recounts come out with Dubya on top?
 
2001-10-04 12:18:35 AM
hmmm should we vote for vanilla ice cream or vanilla ice cream.

gimme some variety.
put some other parties in the debates im tired of this democrat republican shiat
hell, JESSE VENTURA FOR PRESIDENT! TED NUGENT FOR VICE PRESIDENT!
 
2001-10-04 12:23:22 AM
Can I hand any of you commies a kleenex?

Us conservatives want to help you overcome your grieving of the rejection of Al Gore by the people of America.
 
2001-10-04 12:26:34 AM
Because the media is lying to you.

That's right, the media, who brought you Watergate, Iran-contra, My Lai, Three Mile Island and the fact that Rush Limbaugh is fat, is lying to you.

It's all part of the VRWC, the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.
 
2001-10-04 12:29:27 AM
Jesus H Christ, they counted and recounted, and I am sorry but Al Snore lost, granted only by like 60 votes, but that assumes all the chads and crap go to Gore. I think this is just a pretty damn lame story, I mean I would rather read about the cleavage on crossdressers, least that is educational.
 
2001-10-04 12:30:12 AM
people are still going on about this? talk about living in the past.
 
2001-10-04 12:36:10 AM
Did you know that if you beat a dead horse long enough it gets up and runs again?
 
2001-10-04 12:36:45 AM
Just by reading the first paragraph I can already tell that this entire article is worthless:

"According to a source whose previous information has proven to be accurate ..."

Screw the paragraph, just use that. If you're going to document something, come right out and say who or what it was. Just because someone was right earlier does not automatically mean that they'll be correct every following time.
 
2001-10-04 12:38:29 AM
oh boy->.bobo... nobody disagreed with you here. see, you just make noise w/out content...schlong
 
2001-10-04 12:44:19 AM
It's all moot.

Did we not just hear Gore say "...[Bush] is my president..."?

Yep. Time to move on.
 
2001-10-04 12:47:10 AM
Hey guys it on the INTERNET so it MUST BE TRUE!.
 
2001-10-04 12:47:21 AM
People are not going to drop this one because emotions were running way to high. And there are still a number of people out there who feel there was something shady going on.

And who knows there may have been. On both sides. I would not at all be surprised. The only thing I care about is that if there was... I want the people who did it... all the people who did it, to hang.
 
2001-10-04 12:48:44 AM
I still think we would have been better off with gore. Atleast the man actually studied in school. I don't care if my president is boring or not. Just as long as he gets the job done. That goes for getting a blow job or not.

Fark. If Gore was president atleast we wouldn't be pumping billions into a missile defence program that doesn't work.

Blah blah. Say what you want I believe he would have been a far superior president.
 
2001-10-04 12:51:46 AM
"Some Guy"...Yep, I always get reliable news from the SomeGuy Network...

"Media covering up Snore victory"....that's about as plausible as Madonna becoming celebate. Aside from the abundant facts/results/ad nauseum we've had for months, there's also the small matter of this guy's right-wing conspirators in the "media" deliberately calling the election (after being warned multiple times by the state not to do so) while the CST panhandle was still trying to vote, costing Bush an estimated 10,000 votes in the final outcome. Yes, they should have voted anyway, but that's never what happens, and the networks knew it.

Anybody got a wav file of "Get Over It"? This clown needs to hear it about a hundred times.
 
2001-10-04 12:55:30 AM
Isn't it hilarious how when the media supposedly suppresses a pro-conservative story, it's "LEFT WING MEDIA IS SATAN! THEY'RE COVERING UP!"... and yet when the media supposedly suppresses a pro-liberal story, the conservatives are super quick to simply ignore it and claim it "can't possibly" be true.

Guess what people... this story IS true. You don't have to believe it, but that doesn't change its truth. Now... does it "mean" anything? Nope. Nothing more than a right to biatch, and hopefully some election reform in Florida (re: machines, counting policies, etc). But obviously, Bush is President and he currently has a little less than 3 and a half years left. I hope he enjoys it, because it won't be extended.

Oh, and Bobo555, "rejection of Al Gore by the American people?" Need I truly remind you of the outcome of the popular vote? Bush may be President... but the fact remains that more citizens of this great nation voted for his opponent.
 
2001-10-04 12:56:17 AM
As bad as it was for those of us who had to live through it all, imagine how it will be for those who will have to learn about it in school. This election will be argued about for many years after most of us are long gone.
 
2001-10-04 12:56:48 AM
Next thing you know, Ralph Nader'll be asking for a recount.
 
2001-10-04 01:07:37 AM
for those of you wondering why this is an issue, have you ever heard of "impropriety or the appearance of impropriety"? the whole florida thing stank to high heaven. everyone overseeing the election was working for the brother of one of the candidates. and wasn't the main person in charge of the election oversight dealie in florida working on gw's campaign? i mean, come on. you can't expect people to ignore stuff like that.

also, people who still can't get over the fact that clinton got a blow job and didn't get impeached shouldn't be telling people to get over this.

for the record, i think it was over when gore conceded. in my mind, you can't concede and then just go, "oh, wait. no, i'm back in!"
 
2001-10-04 01:10:38 AM
Hmmmm... well maybe Gore is just sitting back saying, "I'm sure glad that WTC thing didn't happen on MY watch."

I don't think Bush realized what he signed up for - kinda reminds of that SNL skit where the White House is burning and the country is collapsing and all Will Ferrel (as Bush) can say is "This is hard! I didn't think it would be so hard!"
 
2001-10-04 01:15:42 AM
Recounts don't matter because they were unconstitutional, you have to obey the laws on the books at the time of the vote, and the laws said you have five days after the vote is over to complete a recount
 
2001-10-04 01:25:01 AM
Getting a blowjob isn't a crime.Lying in civil court about it is.Clinton shoudv'e been impeached,the perv!
 
2001-10-04 01:27:01 AM
blah, blah, blah....blah!!

everything here has been said 69,000,000,000,000,000,000,00,00,000,000,000,000 times, just like the farking article...like it makes a damn difference!!

Cheers
 
2001-10-04 01:27:31 AM
yes, I know I missed two zeros...get over it
 
2001-10-04 01:27:32 AM

Speaking of appearance of impropriety. Katerine Harris is running for congress tell me that is not an ethic comittee review waiting to happen.

If I was in her shoes at the time of that whole debacle I would have chosen a neutral party to take over for me in over seeing the recounting of the ballots.

 
2001-10-04 01:28:11 AM
also, people who still can't get over the fact that clinton got a blow job and didn't get impeached shouldn't be telling people to get over this.
LOL BRAVO!

Some idiot is on PI right now complaining about the election.
The host said 'oh, grow up... that is so September 10th'
 
2001-10-04 01:29:19 AM
Getting a blowjob isn't a crime.Lying in civil court about it is.Clinton shoudv'e been impeached,the perv!
Your comments would have been taken much more seriously without the last two words.
 
2001-10-04 01:37:17 AM
If Al Gore would have been president during the WTC attack he would have put this country in a lock box! No more terrorism!
 
2001-10-04 01:39:20 AM
Thank God for the electoral college. It is the only reason the masses of idiots living in urban centers didn't choose the Pres. The red areas of the map are sick of the PC liberal bullshiat coming from the elitist socialist traitors of the Constitution.

If Gore was pres., he would be holding meetings with the Sierra Club to make sure we wouldn't hurt any dungeatinggnatfarkers during the bombing! I'm sure he would also use environmentally friendly recycled plastic bullets, too!
 
43%
2001-10-04 01:46:25 AM
Do not Misunderestimate the CIA
Do not Misunderestimate the will of the American People
Do not Misunderestimate America's ability to win this war on terrorism.

did anyone else hear that speech on NPR??????

Oderus Urungus for prez.
 
2001-10-04 01:53:44 AM
lets look at our source, shall we?

According to a source whose previous information has proven to be accurate.

"When you want to believe something bad enough, you will no matter the circumstances"
 
2001-10-04 02:03:20 AM
Anyone notice that the site describes itself as a "polital humor" site?
 
2001-10-04 02:04:04 AM
Just so you know JimJones, Clinton WAS impeached, just not removed from office. He didn't receive anywhere near the required number of votes to give him the boot. And I agree with whoever (im too tired to scroll back up) said that the election was over when Gore conceded. He quit. Game over. But let's all face one thing: If EITHER Bush or Gore won the election, it would have been branded shady and illegitimate by the other side and no doubt had Gore won, we'd see this same article with roles reversed. Have a nice day, I have a Toluene Disproportionation project to work on for Friday. :-)

-He who schools meat
 
2001-10-04 02:05:44 AM
ok... that snickers advertisement needs to add a doll that says "'S'elected President" (You know the advert, the one where the bobblehead dolls say all those annoying phrases and people stomp the sh.it out of them)
 
2001-10-04 02:06:36 AM
Hey! I got a great idea!

Let's all go to another thread and post funny things about Domo-Kun and boobies and weiners and funny rice'd out cars and beer. Lots and lots of beer.

C'mon!!

It'll be fun!
 
2001-10-04 02:06:46 AM
Pheh. I figure Bush is the legitimate president. Every recount showed Bush as the winner. I also figure their was a lot of shady happenings going on in that recount. I would assume that when every recount arrives at a different number, each more in favor of one candidate than the last, that some chicanery is afoot.
And it's my opinion that Bush was the better candidate. It was my impression of Gore that he was one slimey motherfarker. That everything he did and said was an act to get me to vote him into office. Bush seemed to be the more honest candidate. And I figure he's doing an okay job so far. He seems to perform pretty well under crisises, such as when that Chinese fighter jet rammed that spyplane, and the recent WTC attack. I'm quite pleased with his performance so far. Though I would have still preferred Browne, McCain, or Nader.
 
2001-10-04 02:11:07 AM
I did a google search on 'misunderestimate dictionary' it isn't in their, but there are references to others using the word (not related to Bush's use)


Suicide... Brown & Mccain mebbe, Nader... no way (considering what is going on now).
 
2001-10-04 02:12:11 AM
Jeez...everyones so serious,Im just really drunk
 
43%
2001-10-04 02:14:45 AM
yep, i agree, nader woulda farked this whole thing up baad.

(driving a pinto around afghanistan looking for binladen, im sure)
 
2001-10-04 02:15:46 AM
...the masses of idiots living in urban centers didn't choose the Pres. .... "

oh just come right out and say the " N " word
you know you want to , PUSSY !
 
2001-10-04 02:15:57 AM
I'm up for some boobies. Ladies?
 
43%
2001-10-04 02:16:31 AM
damn...lol Kanonball.....
 
2001-10-04 02:18:49 AM
LOL! Poooorrrr al BORE! Lol! you lost SUCKA!!!
 
2001-10-04 02:18:55 AM
true, suicideboy. although i got the impression that bush's honesty stemmed more from the fact that he just isn't mentally up to coming up with lies. what can i say? i voted for nader. i still think bush is a moron, but his administration hasn't fawked up anything gore's wouldn't have. (environment, budget, etc.)

then again, maybe he acted extra dumb during the election, figuring he's not going to change a lot of peoples' minds anyway, and this way, when he takes office, he'll exceed his detractors' expectations dramatically. i have to say, i dislike him less than i did back then.
 
2001-10-04 02:21:19 AM
DAMN , 43 % , beautiful ass !
 
2001-10-04 02:22:38 AM
meatschool: not to sound egocentric, but is your username supposed to be some sort of mockery of mine? and how come i've never noticed you posting before, despite the fact that you have a relatively old account number?
 
43%
2001-10-04 02:27:09 AM
aw shucks.
 
2001-10-04 02:28:28 AM
N word, what are you talking about???? It's the S word. Socialist. Who wants to shut down the West? The liberal elite living in NYC, SF, Mass, et al. Who fights so hard to take away our rights? Have you ever read Albore's book? What a total crock of absolute unsubstantiated bullshiat! Race has nothing to do with it!
 
2001-10-04 02:31:25 AM
Speaking of Al Gore. It's nice to see he grew a beard. I was beginning to wonder if he actually HAD any testosterone.
Now all he needs is a Pendleton Flannel shirt and a Volvo and he would fit right in with the other tree hugging feel-gooders down at Starbucks.
 
2001-10-04 02:33:11 AM
Sorry Meat, I was just now reading another thread and saw your name there. I forgot there was an account with that name and headed back here just to see if something was said. Turns out there was. Just an honest mistake, no mockery intended. Although the reference to schooling meat was sort of a mockery or Leopold Porkstackers "he who stacks pork." Apologies galore to you and yours, and a wonderful night to all. I'm going to bed.

And btw.. I do post.. just rather infrequently.

Have a glorious day everyone!
 
2001-10-04 02:34:55 AM
They really need to boot out Dubya and stick in Gore... god i hate Dubya, and I was a Texan.
 
2001-10-04 02:42:13 AM
"Getting a blowjob isn't a crime.Lying in civil court about it is.Clinton shoudv'e been impeached,the perv!"

Bush lied in court. He and Clinton are guilty of the same crime (perjury), yet one remains unpunished.

Meat: you beat me to it. I find it amusing how people can continue to bash Clinton for what he did, but get pissed off at others when they won't let the election thing go.

We were farked from the beginning, anyway. Bush or Gore is like choosing 150 lashings or 72 knife stabs.

If you want to talk about hypocracy, we can look at all the money Gore got from companies working against the environment.... I believe someone already brought up some Bush ones, which furthers my point that we were screwed the minute the parties made these people their runners.

And looking at the article and site, it is almost more biased than News Max. Except this site made me laugh with it's vast left wing conspiracy (since vast right wing conspiracies usually make more coverage due to biased news sites).
 
2001-10-04 02:43:14 AM
er.. with their vast left wing conspiracy theories, rather
 
2001-10-04 02:59:09 AM
meatschool: it's all good. i was just curious.
 
2001-10-04 04:00:12 AM
Bush sucks. Everyone knows it. Too bad Gore didn't fight dirty enough to keep up with the flim flam.
 
2001-10-04 04:37:12 AM
Gore won, its true. Its been known since the recounts were prohibited due to "time constraints". That being said, I refuse to become as nearsighted as the the Clinton haters who refused to see he actually did good things for the country. Right now, I am very impressed with the way Bush & Company inc. are hadling the situation. With so many war hawks in power, I am pleasantly surprised to see we havent blown up everything and anything that moves in the mid east, and we are working with others, not using them (not yet at least). To start pushing the fact that he isn't the true president right now would be as petty as the Supreme Court barring Clinton from having cases in front of them. They are so full of themselves that they needed to prove thier supremeness over clinton during a time when the country needs to be united. Just jeep your eyes on what Bush is up to, fight what needs to be fought against. Congress is refusing to pass the Bush antiterroism bill in its entirety, due to the clause which would allow the feds to hold a foreigner in custody without a charge, indefinetly (BAD Bush, Bad). Although I tend to side with the Democrats more than Republicans, I think that the Democrats don't have the balls to enter into and stay in the mess that is required to rid the world of this threat. Democrats don't play dirty enough. We probably need Bush in this dog fight, and he Definetly needs this to prove his leadership (still need Gore for better environment). Bush cleans up terrorists, we reelect Gore to clean up the environment after. Sorry for the diatribe, needed to vent.
 
2001-10-04 05:09:38 AM
pgm: i was tracking until you got to the "re-elect gore" bit. seriously, the only real difference between gore and bush on the environment is what they say about it. i happened to be walking by the key arena in seattle, where gore announced that he was running for president, and by far the majority of people protesting it were environmentalists. at least when bush is screwing up the environment, he's not hiding it and lying about it.
 
2001-10-04 05:13:02 AM
Heh. Doesn't Gore own some really dirty fossil fuel burning thingy in Arkansas? I'm fairly certain I saw something concerning that. I figure that kinda sends up the hypocrisy flag for me. Oh, and doesn't he have a bunch of children? Lots of young new resource wasters to despoil the environment! Heh.

And it's my opinion that Bush is the legitimate president. Every single recount result that I saw showed Bush in the lead. And just as many Republicans dislike Clinton over some really piddling crap, many Democrats dislike Bush because they came oh-so-close to winning, and still lost. The bitterness of a dream denied. Personally, I am reasonably pleased with Clinton's terms. I don't even hold that blowjob incidence against him. I wouldn't care if the lips wrapped around his johnny belonged to a 5 year old boy if that's what it took to keep this country running.
Blah. Rereading this, it seems quite muddled and jumps all over the place. Blah. I'm too tired to try and fix it.
 
2001-10-04 06:22:41 AM
If your ex VP was playing bass, and got together with a guitarist and a drummer, would that be...

The Al Gore rhythm section??!
 
2001-10-04 06:57:51 AM
Bobo555, Bush was not chosen by "the people of America." He was chosen by the Electoral College. the "people of America" chose GORE! He won the popular vote. I am over the Bush "win", for lack of a better word. I think it will turn out to be the same sort of amusing situation that happened with his father.

After dubya's father had won the Gulf War, he STILL lost his bid for reelection due to the crappy economy. Of course, if he had not spent 80000 billion dollars of our taxes bailing out his son's in the savings and loan scandal maybe the economy would not have been in such bad shape.

Dubya is riding high on his approval rating, but even if he manages to not totally fark up this "war on terrorism" I still see deja vous all over again.
 
2001-10-04 08:20:16 AM
Bobo555, before you run around calling people commies, perhaps you should consider showing some respect for ol' glory and turning the flag in your bio rightside up. Sheesh. Why don't you just put an animation of a burning flag up there, you , you, you, uh, commie?
 
2001-10-04 08:21:01 AM


He lost. It's over. Get over it.
 
2001-10-04 08:26:22 AM
Tooney: There is nothing disrespectful in flying the flag upside down. It however is a distress signal (IE. SOS).
Apparently Bobo is distressed about something.
 
2001-10-04 08:43:34 AM
4Score: I know, I just thought it would be fun to call him a commie. Come to think of it, you're all commies. Commies!

Okay, now I feel better.
 
2001-10-04 08:44:36 AM
Y'know what? I voted for Gore. I wanted him to win.

I also love the X-Files, and love a good conspiracy theory.

But if anyone believes for one minute that EVERY news outlet in the nation (with the exception of BuzzFlash, the left-wing equivalent of NewsMax) squashed this story, they need to wake the hell up.

Bush is the president, until he isn't. People need to learn to deal with reality, and get on with life.
 
2001-10-04 08:50:26 AM
4Score&7BeersAgo... the inverted flag is more than just a sign of distress.
it is a sign of abandonment caused by distress.
Jump to the '2 yr old w/.31 alcohol thread'. I've posted links in there.
 
2001-10-04 08:57:41 AM
News Flash:
Dick Cheney is our president. Bush is too dumb to run a country.

Face it, Bush is retarded and has farked up everything he's worked on (reversal on C02 emissions, Kyoto, ANWAR, worthless missile defense, 3rd world debt, AIDS help in Africa, etc.)

He's an idiot and you know it.
 
K
2001-10-04 08:59:53 AM
Walken for president.

and what the hell is misunderestimate...?
 
2001-10-04 09:05:11 AM
*YAWN*
 
2001-10-04 09:10:31 AM
Al Gore is a loser plan and simple and all we still hear from his suporters(who are all morons) is "We won lets keep counting or we'll hold our breath, WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH" Thank God he is not our president at this time. We can thank him and Clinton for having a military 40% smaller than it was during the Gulf war at a time when we could really use it. Pansies.
 
2001-10-04 09:16:29 AM
Article looks like pure fiction to me. What would AlGore's reaction been 9/11? Now that is a scary thought!
 
2001-10-04 09:20:47 AM
By the way Meat. Clinton WAS in fact impeached. Look it up in the dictionary because you obviously don't kow what inpeach means. And it was not for getting a blow job but for comitting perjury which he most assuredly did.
 
2001-10-04 09:28:56 AM
Maybe this will clear things up. Definition 2 applies here.

impeach \Im*peach"\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Impeached; p. pr. & vb. n. Impeaching.] [OE. empeechier to prevent, hinder, bar, F. emp[^e]cher, L. impedicare to entangle; pref. im- in + pedica fetter, fr. pes, pedis, foot. See Foot, and Appeach, Dispatch, Impede.]

1. To hinder; to impede; to prevent. [Obs.]

These ungracious practices of his sons did impeach his journey to the Holy Land. --Sir J. Davies.

A defluxion on my throat impeached my utterance. --Howell.

2. To charge with a crime or misdemeanor; to accuse; especially to charge (a public officer), before a competent tribunal, with misbehavior in office; to cite before a tribunal for judgement of official misconduct; to arraign; as, to impeach a judge. See Impeachment.

3. Hence, to charge with impropriety; to dishonor; to bring discredit on; to call in question; as, to impeach one's motives or conduct.

And doth impeach the freedom of the state. --Shak.

4. (Law) To challenge or discredit the credibility of, as of a witness, or the validity of, as of commercial paper.

Note: When used in law with reference to a witness, the term signifies, to discredit, to show or prove unreliable or unworthy of belief; when used in reference to the credit of witness, the term denotes, to impair, to lessen, to disparage, to destroy. The credit of a witness may be impeached by showing that he has made statements out of court contradictory to what he swears at the trial, or by showing that his reputation for veracity is bad, etc.

Syn: To accuse; arraign; censure; criminate; indict; impair; disparage; discredit. See Accuse

Now THAT spells Clinton
 
2001-10-04 09:37:52 AM
This just in:

According to a source whose previous information has proven to be accurate, but will go unnamed to promote this conspiracy theory, and hide the fact that this is a joke, the recent Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore never really existed. Advancing on the technology introduced in the 1980's with Max Headroom, the Al Gore our country saw was no more real than Lara Croft. While this technology was known to have existed, nobody believed that it could actually be used to create a dynamic, exciting, viable candidate for the presidency. Democratic officials declined to comment.
 
2001-10-04 09:43:58 AM
Hey Bigpeeler. You call that a beard? LOL
 
2001-10-04 09:55:41 AM
Talk about a friggin dead horse.

With all of what's happened, I've seen more people who voted for Gore say that they are so glad we have someone like W in da house.
 
2001-10-04 10:01:37 AM
Did anyone else bother to go up one level and see what else this site contains? This should be labeled satire.
 
2001-10-04 10:07:33 AM
If people would look at this logically instead of along party lines, there wouldn't be that much of a debate. If Bush was in Gore's shoes and vice-versa, they would have done the same things their opponent had done. It's all about winning. And if the situation was reversed, Gore supporters would be saying to get over it, and Bush supporters would be saying that Gore is not the real president. Each did what they had to do to win, and if that means using the Supreme Court, acting confident to confirm your beliefs, and asking for recount upon recount, so be it. In my opinion, both men had a valid case for claiming victory and should have acted upon it as fervently as possible.

PS - If the Liberal media is out to get the Evil right-wingers, why did they suppress this story about their boy winning? Why did they cover Monicagate anyway, when they could have done a Rather and said "This isn't really news, and we won't stoop to that base of a level"? Hmmm...maybe the media is doing a semi-OK job if both sides are unhappy? It's all about reading between the lines and consulting more than one source in order to obtain the "truth". Never take what one source says at face value.
 
2001-10-04 11:03:23 AM
That damn liberal media--out to cover up a clear....

oh wait, wrong thread.
 
2001-10-04 11:26:31 AM
Sounds like a whine made from sour grapes.

The joke Clinton Admisnistation is over...
 
2001-10-04 11:50:28 AM
Bush is an idiot. A certifiable bonafide idiot. I can't believe that the average college student of today is smarter than our own president...I'd right more but I have to take my girlfriend to get another abortion.

War democrats,
Out.
 
2001-10-04 11:53:52 AM
Would that last post be ?
 
2001-10-04 12:01:58 PM
McBerry: Bush is an idiot. A certifiable bonafide idiot.

D: What were YOUR grades at Harvard and Yale, Einstein?
 
2001-10-04 12:10:29 PM
All I have to say is Demorcracy Fails.....
 
2001-10-04 12:12:56 PM
Clanjade: All I have to say is Demorcracy Fails.....

D: Fails to what? (You got a better idea?)
 
2001-10-04 12:16:27 PM
Byort: If the Liberal media is out to get the Evil right-wingers, why did they suppress this story about their boy winning?

D: Because their boy (Gore) did NOT win. Not in a single hand count, and not even after all the shouting was over with the after-the-fact RE-counts.

Gore LOST. That's why BUSH is the President.
 
2001-10-04 12:41:13 PM
Point is...if they're so gosh-darn sure that he won, why aren't they going with the story anyway? And this is exactly what I'm talking about..."Bush won the Florida vote". "Gore won the popular vote". Don't blame me...I didn't vote for either! (But I am VERY thankful that President Nader is not presiding now!)
 
2001-10-04 12:44:42 PM
John Edwards called with a message from the horse: "Stop flogging me!"
 
2001-10-04 01:23:14 PM
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TASTES GREAT!
LESS FILLING!

ok, but seriously now, over half the american public that's registered to vote DIDN'T last time, Gore won the popular vote, but f'd up bad trying to strategically recount instead of calling for a runoff. It's over, he ran a terrible campaign anyway, 'nuff said. President Elect Bush II will keep getting to do whatever he wants until his time to leave comes, he will not be re-elected.

Byort hit the nail on the head, if the situations were reversed we would have seen the same behavior, just maybe not the same outcome (supreme court). It's not a party issue, it's a 'trying to win' issue, the entire thing is marketed as a contest by the media anyway.

The media dropped the story like a dirty diaper, considering how much they hyped and flogged it at the time it's not surprising, how could it be anything but yesterdays news? It was not 'covered up' so much as intentionally left by the wayside.

all we can do is learn from it.
 
2001-10-04 01:32:13 PM
A) Get over it already!

B) If Gore had won his own farking state, he'd be president. And we'd be screwed
 
2001-10-04 01:47:19 PM
Yeah, I'm thankful Nader isn't in also. And I'm REALLY thankful Bush IS in. Think about the difference in administration: Cheney vs. Lieberman. Eesh.

Here's a quote from a retired army General about this war on terrorism...

"We are going to disrupt these people through preemptive attack ... we will deceive them, we will run psyops on them, at selected points and times they will be killed suddenly, in significant numbers, and without warning. Tomahawk missiles, 2000 pound laser guided weapons dropped from B2's or F22's at very high altitude, remote control, booby traps, blackmail and at places, small groups of soldiers or SEALs will appear in total darkness, blow down the doors and kill them at close range with automatic weapons and hand grenades. We will find their money and freeze it. We will arrest their front agents. We will operate against their recruiting and transportation functions. We will locate their training areas and surveil or mine them. We will isolate them from their families. We will try to dominate their communication function and alternately listen, jam or spoof it. We will make their couriers disappear. If we can find out how they eat, or play or receive rewards, or where they sleep -- we will go there and kill them by surprise."

When the chips are really really down, the true philosophy of the PEOPLE is always conservatism.
 
2001-10-04 03:35:24 PM
I would have doubted the credibility of this no-name author, but then I saw it was the world reknowned David Podvin. It must all be true!
 
2001-10-04 03:45:33 PM
The thread was long so this may have already been said but, if Gore had carried his home state he would have won the election, without Florida.
 
2001-10-04 04:31:46 PM
First of all, we have to deal with the opssibility of an extended war, and it will not help to have half of the country still arguing that their candidate did not win because the election was fixed. Let's recognize that we are one country under one president and work to defend our own, rather than being defeated under our own infighting.

Secondly, it seems that the popular media in general have been very clear on the point that most of their support is for politically liberal causes. If their major funding is from pro-republicans who *really* pull the strings, then these predominant backers have not so far managed to force these newspapers to refrain from slamming other republican candidates or blatantly supporting democratic candidates, even in news stories that are supposed to be neutral. If these "banks" really have so much power over the mainstream media, and lean so toward the right, why did they not work to block two Clinton administrations(rather tahn supporting them), which were far more damaging to republican goals than Al Gore ever would have been?

Finally, I must agree with the opster above, who said "thank God for the electoral college." My children are home schooled, because, among other reasons, we have "alternative values" which we wish to pass on to our children, and which are implicitly contradicted by most public schools. We realize that our, non-majority, values cannot hold sway in the school system of a society where the majority is supposed to rule, so we take it upon ourselves to give our children an "alternative" education. Al Gore, on the other hand, stated publicly that he did not want us to continue to have the right to do this; that it should not be legal. Figuratively speaking, with the majority popular vote in his favor, Al Gore was all set to "hang" us, but in the electoral college, "the rope broke." I disagree with the electoral college in theory, but this time it rescued my rights. Say whatever you want to about this election, but I am glad it is over.
 
2001-10-04 04:57:15 PM
The Electoral College is a good thing. It prevents Texas and California from swallowing up states like Rhode Island.
 
2001-10-04 07:44:06 PM
Tex: I'm conservative, but "homeshooled" kids are psycho.
 
2001-10-04 07:45:27 PM
That's "homeschooled" not "homeshooled"

I'm obviously educated by the public school system.
 
2001-10-04 07:46:22 PM
Wuzzat? Who'd want to do such a thing?
 
2001-10-04 08:18:10 PM
Bildo

Would love to know how many "homeshooled" kids you know, that you can authoritatively say that they are psycho.

Statistically they do better on standardized tests, in college, etc, etc, etc...

Additionally, many of the early leaders of this country were schooled at home.

Incidentally, homeschooling isn't even a particularly conservative thing-the movement started in the 60s with liberals who were concerned about the "conservative slant" in public schools.

At any rate, I guess those of us who are willing to give up our "me" time to try for a better future for our children are pretty psycho, too.
 
2001-10-04 09:48:59 PM
Just remember folks that you should continue to vote because your vote could be the deciding factor. Unless of course it comes down to the wire and things are too close. Then the lawyers get involved and your vote don't mean shiat.

Media people have their own agendas and whether this story is true or not, I would believe that the media hides the truth from the public all the time.
 
2001-10-07 11:44:10 PM
Y'know, I was gonna throw my two cents in, but I think it's all been said already. First guy to post here had it covered.
 
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