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2010-05-21 09:10:00 AM  
First minute and a half was my cup of tea, and then "Black Metal" came on and it just went to shiat.

DIGADIGADIGADIGADIGA...rinse, repeat.
 
2010-05-21 09:10:32 AM  
pure win. thanks subby
 
2010-05-21 09:15:21 AM  
Went from awesome to suck. Great video tho
 
kab
2010-05-21 09:19:20 AM  
Really? So like....Dream Theater is power metal?

Pro-tip: Guitar approach isn't the sole factor in determining genre (if this is something you obsess over)
 
2010-05-21 09:21:16 AM  
Did anyone notice that "black metal" and "death metal" sounded exactly the same?

And what, exactly, is "folk metal"? Is that bands like Hawkwind or Marillion?

/serious
 
2010-05-21 09:25:04 AM  

puckrock2000: Did anyone notice that "black metal" and "death metal" sounded exactly the same?

And what, exactly, is "folk metal"? Is that bands like Hawkwind or Marillion?

/serious


Think that's Coheed and Cambria maybe?
 
2010-05-21 09:26:16 AM  

dstanley: First minute and a half was my cup of tea, and then "Black Metal" came on and it just went to shiat.

DIGADIGADIGADIGADIGA...rinse, repeat.


Couldn't agree more, but don't tell my pretentious metal friends I like glam rock.
 
2010-05-21 09:27:29 AM  
\m/
 
2010-05-21 09:27:33 AM  
He left out Neue Deutsche Schwerung. How lame. (ironic tag)

There are several bands whose songs sound like multiple 'genres' there, depending on the song. Unless a band has locked themselves into a style like incomprehensible death-metal howling, any band that doesn't suck can sound like several of those.

WTF is with people who have an OCD need to fragment music into a thousand different genres? Does it make them seem kewl? "I like progressive metal because it's so much more intellectual than folk metal."
 
2010-05-21 09:33:09 AM  
folk metal FARK YES, I'm looking for some of that today...
 
2010-05-21 09:33:45 AM  
Everyone needs to calm down about the genres. The guitarist made a 3 minute youtube video to show off his range, he's not trying to present THE authoritative taxonomy of metal.
 
2010-05-21 09:37:18 AM  
The guitarist was a good player.

/discuss
 
2010-05-21 09:43:01 AM  
Black Metal was a bunch of Norwegian punk kids answer to death metal.

To expect any serious musicianship or creativity from 1/16th guitar notes is teh tarded.

I do likes me some black metal, though.
 
2010-05-21 09:47:19 AM  

syrynxx:
WTF is with people who have an OCD need to fragment music into a thousand different genres? Does it make them seem kewl? "I like progressive metal because it's so much more intellectual than folk metal."


Some people are lumpers, others are splitters. Happens in science all the time too. Your head will explode if you look at the number of "genres" in electronic music:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres (new window)
 
2010-05-21 09:47:42 AM  
Is it wrong if I like Heavy Metal and Classical Music?
 
2010-05-21 09:49:33 AM  

1nsanilicious: Is it wrong if I like Heavy Metal and Classical Music?


No. Anyone here know of any bands who combine the two??
 
2010-05-21 09:54:45 AM  
What? No Sludge Metal? Link (new window)
 
2010-05-21 09:55:30 AM  

cmoreland: folk metal FARK YES, I'm looking for some of that today...


tenacious D
 
2010-05-21 09:57:57 AM  

meyerkev: 1nsanilicious: Is it wrong if I like Heavy Metal and Classical Music?

No. Anyone here know of any bands who combine the two??


Well, I know that one of Metallica's older songs is a waltz in disguise. Don't remember which one, just remember laughing my ass off when I realized it.
 
2010-05-21 09:58:15 AM  

meyerkev: 1nsanilicious: Is it wrong if I like Heavy Metal and Classical Music?

No. Anyone here know of any bands who combine the two??


There's a whole Subgenre called Symphonic Metal that you might enjoy.

Also, here's some wankery by Yngwie Malmsteen as he plays a Concerto Suite live with the Japanese Philharmonic. (new window)
 
2010-05-21 10:07:27 AM  

DaCricket: Well, I know that one of Metallica's older songs is a waltz in disguise. Don't remember which one, just remember laughing my ass off when I realized it.


Nothing Else Matters?
 
2010-05-21 10:12:18 AM  

johnnyboog: Went from awesome to suck.


I thought the opposite.

Diff'rent strokes....
 
2010-05-21 10:12:18 AM  
What, no pirate metal?

I think if he took out the black metal part this would be a pretty awesome song through and through. That section just sounds out of place.

meyerkev: o. Anyone here know of any bands who combine the two??


Paul Gilbert does a lot of stuff like this. He's recorded a few random pieces for his instrumental albums. Most of the good stuff is on youtube. For his original work, I like 'Viking Kong,' don't really think that's classical beyond being influenced by Yngwie.
 
2010-05-21 10:16:03 AM  

meyerkev: 1nsanilicious: Is it wrong if I like Heavy Metal and Classical Music?

No. Anyone here know of any bands who combine the two??


Apocalyptica
 
2010-05-21 10:21:58 AM  

puckrock2000: Did anyone notice that "black metal" and "death metal" sounded exactly the same?

And what, exactly, is "folk metal"? Is that bands like Hawkwind or Marillion?

/serious


According to the video's author: "I'd say for glam it's Skid Row and Leatherwolf, heavy sounds Queensryche to me (although they have a glammy sound), power is Angra I suppose, folk part I would say old In Flames (yup serious), black metal is definitely Dissection, death metal is like Scar Symmetry's heavier parts, thrash is... maybe Gathering-era Testament, melodeath reminds me of old Avenged Sevenfold and All That Remains, metalcore I have no idea, maybe Lamb of God?

So perhaps Hawkwind, but definitely older material from In Flames.

I evidently like Power Metal, Folk Metal, and Melodeath Metal.
 
2010-05-21 10:22:49 AM  
No wonder I'm always so confused on Sundays. I would categorize all of that as simply metal and be done with it. That explains why I never know what anyone's talking about. metalcore, death, black...meh it's all just metal...I feel better now...
 
2010-05-21 10:23:50 AM  
RabaDat: What? No Sludge Metal? Link (new window)

Opening to that song sounds similar to Foo Fighters My Hero (new window)
 
2010-05-21 10:24:37 AM  
Good folk metal (new window)
 
2010-05-21 10:25:08 AM  

meyerkev: 1nsanilicious: Is it wrong if I like Heavy Metal and Classical Music?

No. Anyone here know of any bands who combine the two??


Say what you will about Metallica, but their S & M album remains awesome to this day.
 
2010-05-21 10:25:13 AM  
I'm no metal expert- just started listening to a little norwegian black metal after reading about the documentary Until the Light Takes US. (new window)

Anyway, I think the "splitting" phenomenon sometimes has less to do with changes to the music itself, but is a means of distinguishing groups with a different approach or who come from a different scene.

For instance, black metal is a lo-fi "grunge" reaction to the heavy commercialization of death metal. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
kab
2010-05-21 10:29:01 AM  

Madbassist1: No wonder I'm always so confused on Sundays. I would categorize all of that as simply metal and be done with it. That explains why I never know what anyone's talking about. metalcore, death, black...meh it's all just metal...I feel better now...


Oh, not this can of worms again :D
 
2010-05-21 10:29:25 AM  

Turing_Machine: puckrock2000: Did anyone notice that "black metal" and "death metal" sounded exactly the same?

And what, exactly, is "folk metal"? Is that bands like Hawkwind or Marillion?

/serious

Think that's Coheed and Cambria maybe?


Coheed and Cambria are not folk metal, believe me.
 
2010-05-21 10:29:39 AM  

slaggard: For instance, black metal is a lo-fi "grunge" reaction to the heavy commercialization of death metal. Correct me if I'm wrong.


I've read that that is true, to the point that these guys are so metal that they can't even make friends so they just end up with one guy to cookie-monster it up, one guy to beat up a way-detuned guitar, a DR10 and a whole lot of hate and pain. RRRUUUOOOAAAGHHHSSSS!

Caluth: Good folk metal (new window)


I kinda wished I hadn't watched the video (the song was fine) but then the Jem7 was cool.
 
2010-05-21 10:29:55 AM  

Killer Refresh Rate: meyerkev: 1nsanilicious: Is it wrong if I like Heavy Metal and Classical Music?

No. Anyone here know of any bands who combine the two??

Say what you will about Metallica, but their S & M album remains awesome to this day.


'Once' and 'Dark Passion Play' by Nightwish may appeal to you also. Although I personally hate the latter due to the band's new singer.
 
2010-05-21 10:32:51 AM  

Keywork99: Coheed and Cambria are not folk metal, believe me.


They're Prog Rock, I'd say. Any "metal" label applied to them would be strictly due to the guitar tone, but not because they've got any aggro overtones.

/MHO, YMMV.
//Also Y\m/MV.
 
2010-05-21 10:35:43 AM  

ViciousXero: Black Metal was a bunch of Norwegian punk kids answer to death metal.

To expect any serious musicianship or creativity from 1/16th guitar notes is teh tarded.

I do likes me some black metal, though.


Black metal existed long before norway. Thanks for 'tarding.
 
2010-05-21 10:36:58 AM  
anyways, this video is full on retarded and will only add to the countless tards who can't process sub-genres correctly.
 
2010-05-21 10:37:58 AM  
Ok, just for everyone here because it doesn't seem like most of you know your metal...

Glam: Motley Crue, Dokken, Poison
Heavy: Could be anyone, but mainly Metallica
Power: Helloween, Dragonforce, Kamelot
MeloDeath: Opeth, Katatonia, Insomnium
Black: Immortal, Burzum
Folk: Finntroll, Eluveltie
Metalcore: Atreyu, Devil Wears Prada, Bleeding Through
Progressive: Dream Theatre, Rush, ISIS
Thrash: Old Megadeth, Overkill

Thats just a rough list but there are literally hundreds of bands in every subgenre immaginable.
Oh and if you want more metal in your life, check out SHMHC on Sundays.
 
2010-05-21 10:38:34 AM  

puckrock2000: Did anyone notice that "black metal" and "death metal" sounded exactly the same?

And what, exactly, is "folk metal"? Is that bands like Hawkwind or Marillion?

/serious


no not at all.

folk metal is actually a huge genre that really only took shape in the last 10-15 years. bands usually use traditional instruments in addition to the standard metal band set up.

some of these bands are a combination of genres (such as black metal and folk) but I enjoy all of these:

Kivimetsän Druidi
Nokturnal Mortum
Finntroll
Turisas
Primordial
Blackguard
In Extremo
Hollenthon
Moonsorrow
Týr
Korpiklaani
Ensiferum
Suidakra
Skyforger
Wardruna
Vintersorg
SIG:AR:TYR
Eluveitie
Negură Bunget
Månegarm
Trollfest
Skyclad
Empyrium
Equilibrium
Agalloch
Elvenking
Alestorm
Windir
 
2010-05-21 10:40:04 AM  
His Prog Metal needs more prog.

(cough) Dream Theater (Cough)
 
2010-05-21 10:40:08 AM  

syrynxx: He left out Neue Deutsche Schwerung. How lame. (ironic tag)

There are several bands whose songs sound like multiple 'genres' there, depending on the song. Unless a band has locked themselves into a style like incomprehensible death-metal howling, any band that doesn't suck can sound like several of those.

WTF is with people who have an OCD need to fragment music into a thousand different genres? Does it make them seem kewl? "I like progressive metal because it's so much more intellectual than folk metal."



what's the deal with those idiot wine makers and breweries labeling what kind it is? i mean it's a beer, it's a wine? that's enough info! if you like beer, you'll like it! if you like wine, you'll like it! stupid pseudo-intellectuals wannabes! IPA/porter, pinot noir/riesling , what are these silly names you OCD tards! hahahah!
 
2010-05-21 10:41:40 AM  
Vegatarian Grindcore
 
2010-05-21 10:42:54 AM  

slaggard: black


slaggard: I'm no metal expert- just started listening to a little norwegian black metal after reading about the documentary Until the Light Takes US. (new window)

Anyway, I think the "splitting" phenomenon sometimes has less to do with changes to the music itself, but is a means of distinguishing groups with a different approach or who come from a different scene.

For instance, black metal is a lo-fi "grunge" reaction to the heavy commercialization of death metal. Correct me if I'm wrong.


you're wrong-- you seem , like countless others, to think black metal began with the norsecore movement around 1991. That's the 2nd wave.
 
2010-05-21 10:43:12 AM  

factoryconnection: slaggard: For instance, black metal is a lo-fi "grunge" reaction to the heavy commercialization of death metal. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I've read that that is true, to the point that these guys are so metal that they can't even make friends so they just end up with one guy to cookie-monster it up, one guy to beat up a way-detuned guitar, a DR10 and a whole lot of hate and pain. RRRUUUOOOAAAGHHHSSSS!

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2010-05-21 10:45:57 AM  

puckrock2000: Did anyone notice that "black metal" and "death metal" sounded exactly the same?

And what, exactly, is "folk metal"? Is that bands like Hawkwind or Marillion?

/serious


Go back and listen again. The Black Metal part is straight tremolo picking while the Death Metal picking is quite a bit slower. Though DM does often employ tremolo picking, It's usually not as much as BM. DM is usually downtuned as well, while BM is usually high pitched. If the guy had changed the tunings I don't think there's anyway that you would have mistaken them.

Folk Metal is characterized as Metal that uses folk instruments and/or rhythms (not American folk music mixed with Metal).
 
2010-05-21 10:48:27 AM  

factoryconnection: Keywork99: Coheed and Cambria are not folk metal, believe me.

They're Prog Rock, I'd say.


Speaking of lumpers...
"Hey, we can play in 7/8 and one of our songs was kind of long and we know ALL TWELVE CHORDS. Can we be prog rock now?"
 
2010-05-21 10:51:11 AM  
He didn't do metal-core any justice, when i think metal-core i think Dillinger Escape Plan and Norma Jean...

/though dillinger can go the prog route i suppose...
 
2010-05-21 10:57:31 AM  
I was hoping he'd end on a ten second power chord and call it "doom."

/Doom metal never gets enough love
 
2010-05-21 11:00:04 AM  

puckrock2000: Did anyone notice that "black metal" and "death metal" sounded exactly the same?

And what, exactly, is "folk metal"? Is that bands like Hawkwind or Marillion?

/serious


Hawkwind are one of the originators of space rock, and are more psychedelic than metal. Hawkwind has some material that borders on metal, but there's usually too much other stuff going on in it (i.e., synthesizer, electronic noises, saxophone) to make it metal.
 
2010-05-21 11:02:28 AM  

uPTheme: I was hoping he'd end on a ten second power chord and call it "doom."

/Doom metal never gets enough love


No, it doesn't, especially the funeral kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H_F6j0rM94

From the best funeral doom album of the last 3-4 years...
Stabat Mater- Triumph of Genocide.


/ no mosh, no core, no trend, no fun!
 
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