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2003-05-18 01:14:59 AM  
Alrighty then. Anyone wanna start a pot on how long we see this headline: Cop shot to death in the middle of the night. 
Nearby residents said they never heard a thing.
 
2003-05-18 01:38:18 AM  
Hehe... you said pot, and the headline says drug activity. Yay!

/stupid
 
2003-05-18 09:33:00 AM  
I'm glad I'm not a cop.
 
2003-05-18 10:45:31 AM  
Cops moving into crack houses?
Budget cuts are bad mmmkay?
 
2003-05-18 12:49:43 PM  
I've never been to impressed by the police force...but if they got people doing this VOLUNTARILY...well, they've got some big, brass balls, complete with strokes of lightning between 'em.

That or they're farking stupid, you decide.
 
udo
2003-05-18 12:53:54 PM  
"First our stash, then cars, then our houses, next it'll be our women and children!"
 
2003-05-18 12:59:03 PM  
In other news, crack can now be purchased from any one of several former cop houses.
 
2003-05-18 12:59:09 PM  
"Don't be fooled by the ROCKS that I got, I'm just, I'm just cop on the block. Used to bust a little now I got a lot, no matter where you go I'm comin' for ya."
Yup...lack of sleep doing the talking here.
 
2003-05-18 01:16:11 PM  
This is just going to push the drug dealers into wealthier neighborhoods. Why not keep them in the ghetto where they belong?
 
2003-05-18 01:21:22 PM  
I think it's a pretty slick idea. Providing the community doesn't get pissed off when the cops start wasting the neighbors who don't get the word too quickly and come around demanding drugs.
 
2003-05-18 01:21:42 PM  
With enough TLC, it won't be a crack house, it will be a crack home!
 
2003-05-18 01:35:14 PM  
You know what would work better? Training dobermans to attack testicles . . . and then putting them in the crackhouse . . . while the crackheads are in there.

Yeah, I'd like to see who would go back after a good ball chompin'.
 
2003-05-18 01:39:14 PM  
Aw comon! but if we LEGALIZED cocaine this problem would just go away! Right pot heads? That seems to be your solution to everything.
 
2003-05-18 01:39:36 PM  
If cops can't afford to live in safer neighborhoods, you might think they'd find a different line of work. Next, they'll be begging for spare change and living on park benches.
 
2003-05-18 01:44:45 PM  
I can see where this is going to go. It starts off innocently... But patrolman bob see's a house he really likes........
 
2003-05-18 01:51:51 PM  
If you legalized coke I couldn't make a living.
 
2003-05-18 01:53:43 PM  
Remaitre: you've got it, but without the sarcasm. Addiction is a medical problem, not a legal one.
Do you really think the addicts are now going to go "Oh well, that crack house is shut down - time to quit crack!"
I think it'll be a little bit more like "Sh!t, now I have to go a few streets over to the other one, and now it'll be more crowded."
 
2003-05-18 01:56:54 PM  
I wonder if he'll get reduced rates?
 
2003-05-18 01:58:35 PM  
Remaitre -- narc!

Seriously, I don't know how bad off you have to be to want to live in a former crackhouse, but if that's what they want...

potential conversation in a police locker room: "Hey guys, I'm having a barbecue tomorrow... it's at that crack house we busted last week! I'd take my vest along if I were you..."
 
2003-05-18 02:07:45 PM  
complete with window mounted m60 machine guns, and a 100 yard radius minefield
 
2003-05-18 02:08:07 PM  
are the cops making the drug dudes do toplesss jumping jacks?
 
2003-05-18 02:38:18 PM  
I fear for this cop's family, if he has one. It's not really fair to them that he made this decision. The story was kind of thought-provoking, though....even though I'm firmly against the War on Drugs, this is a reminder of how farked up society can get when it's so huge and compartmentalized. Cops go to the ghetto and bust some heads, and then go home to their family while the people in the ghetto continue to bust each other's heads. There is no "look out for the community" mentality there. I'm guessing this "Cop on the Block" program will be yet another well-intentioned effort that fails miserably because it doesn't address the root of the problem.
 
2003-05-18 02:44:52 PM  
Young_Fart: Drug dealers are already in the wealthier neighborhoods. It's the pushers that are the low-rung on the ladder.
 
2003-05-18 02:47:28 PM  
At least the bad guys now will know which house to break into to steal weapons... If I were a cop I sure as Hell would not want the criminal element to know where I live.
 
2003-05-18 02:51:22 PM  
in S0\/|ET R(_)$$|/\, drug addicts move into precinct to cut down on police activity!

...and they get slaughtered =\
 
2003-05-18 03:07:17 PM  
Rochester, NY has a few similar programs. There's a owner-occupant rehabilitation grant program which will let lower-income folks buy a house, fix it up, and then live there for awhile. I believe there's also a similar program for police officers and teachers, but I can't find a URL on it right now.

(I read up on all this stuff many months back, and am closing on a house Thursday, if Allah shines upon my blessed mortgage company. Being an above-average income single white male not in the police or education industries, I've forgotten most of the nifty programs available out there.)
 
2003-05-18 03:08:28 PM  
Ah, the War on Drugs. Now, in it's 20th season!
 
2003-05-18 03:10:57 PM  
Legalizing pot is a BIT different than legalizing crack or hard drugs... I don't hear about too many people getting shot because someone else wants their weed.
 
2003-05-18 03:16:45 PM  
Soviet Russia
 
2003-05-18 03:33:26 PM  
It'll be a reality TV show by next season.
 
2003-05-18 03:43:52 PM  
Hoopycat There USED to be a program for cops and teachers that paid off half the loan amount on closing if the teacher/cop bought a house in a run down neighborhood on the condition that they live in the house for three years.

It was abused by a handful of crooked cops who bought the houses, and then rented them out, or tried to sell them, or buy a new house using the instant equity the program gave them.

Even though the cops were fired and prosecuted for the federal felony, and even though every single teacher played by the rules, the whole program was trashed. Damn shame.
 
2003-05-18 03:56:06 PM  
This might work for a short time, that is until the cops get hooked on the crack as well.
Oh Come on! You know the cops always have the best stuff!
 
2003-05-18 04:24:00 PM  
I think it's a great idea! In most areas when a home is renovated it increases property values and inspires others to clean up their homes. I'm sure there are some good people living in these neighborhoods who will appreciate these efforts. Then some low income family gets a newly renovated home. Win Win.
 
2003-05-18 04:45:06 PM  
Officer Stephens will live in the home rent free for a year. The house will then be sold to a low income family.

...who will then turn it back into a crack house.

/win
 
2003-05-18 05:04:38 PM  
"good people". hmmmm. there are bound to be plenty of non-cop good people in these neighborhoods already. along with many rotten apples. still say more cops in the hood is a good thing.
 
2003-05-18 05:05:49 PM  
For no particular reason we can find, other than price range, my neighborhood has a large number of people involved in the public safety/security sector in residence. So drug distribution isn't a problem. There are several police and firefighters. And a few others, such as myself, that work in support roles. The exception is one poor guy that is a registered sexual offender. But we just like to play with him a bit by smiling, waving and calling him by name as we drive by. That's not so unusual except none of us has ever actually introduced ourselves. He just has this bewildered look on his face like he hasn't figured out how we know his name...
 
2003-05-18 05:20:24 PM  
Around here, when there's a concerted effort to revitalize neighborhoods, certain "activists" call it "gentrification" and "racist" as buyers move in, and renovate houses, and renters are forced out, usally to other poor neighborhoods and increasingly the 'burbs. State/local mortgage programs help a bit, but increasing property values generally put the rehab neighborhoods out of most peoples' reach.
 
2003-05-18 05:55:54 PM  
Police moving into butt-crack houses...
 
2003-05-18 06:01:13 PM  
I live literally just down the street from where they're talking about. I hope this thing helps in the revitalization that this neighbourhood has already begun to see.
 
2003-05-18 06:43:59 PM  
Yes, Remaitre, if we legalized cocaine, this would go away. No one would make money dealing it if it were legal. Since prices would go way down, crimes like robbery fraud and prostitution would go down. If a habit could be sustained on a dollar a day (which it could be if it were legal), then no one would really have to do crime to pay for it.

Sigmund Freud used cocaine for years (including writing a book called "On Cocaine"), and prescribed it to his patients for years before discovering psychoanalysis. It is possible to be a cocaine user and be productive. It should be legalized. is a bit of cocaine a good reason to send someone to jail for manditory minimums longer then sentances for murder and rap? If so, keep it illegal, if not, you should support some kind of legalization.
 
2003-05-18 06:44:12 PM  
ummmmmm, lets see, the cop lives there for free and then they SELL it to a low income family! The cops are anything but low income and they get it for free, thats OK i bet the molitov cocktails are flying before a year is up anyway. Who the hell do these cops think they are, they steal your house for selling drugs? What is worse selling drugs or stealing? Maybe they should pass a law against cops stealing houses.
DRUGS ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY!!!! Face the facts coppers.
 
udo
2003-05-18 06:45:17 PM  
I see that most people posting in this thread are missing the point that if a cop is living in a house in a bad neighborhood, it's quite likely that there will be extra patrols in that area. That will move the drug dealers elsewhere, and then the cops will take a house in that area, moving them on, etc. It's not guaranteed to work, but it's an idea that can be tested.
 
2003-05-18 06:46:25 PM  
'longer then sentances for murder and rap?'

Er, longer than for rape...I don't like rap but rappers shouldn't be jailed.
 
2003-05-18 09:37:40 PM  
Beer151
Since prices would go way down, crimes like robbery fraud and prostitution would go down.

How would the substance be controlled? Prescription? Age limits? Over the counter like Benadryl? If you think making a substance legal is a way to prevent crime check out oxycodone. Also, have a chat with your local pharmacist about his security system, and why he has one.

A dollar a day habit for crack? I can't even get my claritin that cheap, and I can't even get buzzed of it. You think pharmaceutical companies won't crank up the price on crack? Are you high? They bend the consumers over a barrell and slam in the keilbasa sans KY on drugs that are needed to sustain life. Why would they sell recreational drugs cheaply? It ain't supply and demand, it's supply and greedy-ass-sonuvabiatch.
 
2003-05-18 10:36:21 PM  
But..I live in a crack house now.
 
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