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2010-05-19 01:54:52 AM
RichieLaw: ParagonComplex: osdrcomputers: Qwerda? What the fark kinda name is that?

A black people name. They always have the most messed up names. She probably has a brother named Qwerdrecus and a sister named Qwertyna.

I don't understand why people always rip on black person's names. It's part of their culture. Back when blacks were slaves, most of them were not allowed surnames. Because of that, they had to become creative with their first names. Why denigrate someone for their culture?


Because it's farking stupid. People are free to name their kids whatever they want, but they can't expect everyone to look at a name like Qwerda and say "my, what a mighty fine name that is" There is nothing "cultural" about making up a ridiculous name. I'd say the same if it were one of those -den names like Braden Rayden Jaden
 
2010-05-19 01:58:54 AM
ParagonComplex: I'd say the same if it were one of those -den names like Braden Rayden Jaden

"O-tay, den."

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2010-05-19 01:59:15 AM
Publikwerks: Here's something else to chew on - 11 years aside, who fires anyone on the spot? I know where I work they would have sent me home, and then decided on a course of action. Even if you do decided to fire her, you don't do it in front of her kid unless she's trying to burn the place down. Thats just farked up.

Most minimum/low wage places can and do drop people on the drop of a hat. There is an infinite quantity of people willing to work their asses off for minimum wage. When they mess up, just get another one. No biggie. It's not like we have to train them.

/yes, I have experience in two high turnover business types
 
2010-05-19 02:09:11 AM
DingleberryMoose: Most minimum/low wage places can and do drop people on the drop of a hat. There is an infinite quantity of people willing to work their asses off for minimum wage. When they mess up, just get another one. No biggie. It's not like we have to train them.

In many US states the "right to work" law means you can fire someone for wearing the wrong socks. You don't need a good reason. Even if they have a funny black/ethnic name. That's why there are unions.
 
2010-05-19 02:11:10 AM
AbbeySomeone: SharkTrager: lostcat: Earguy: I have every confidence that this was not the first problem the store had with this employee.

It's easy to overlook the fact that companies don't like to lose employees. There are significant costs involved in interviewing, training, payroll, etc. Even for a small operation.

If a company fires you, it's not just because you did one thing wrong.

Actually, sometimes you didn't do anything wrong. A worker we placed was fired because someone stole a check from the company. Without any way to know who did it they just fired the whole team. Several people were fired without having done anything wrong.

As for this story, they mention that the child was brought in to an area where family and friends were not allowed. I imagine they have well defined rules about who can be where the money is, and the lady broke the rule. If so she wasn't fired for bringing the kid to work, but for bringing a non-employee in to a secured area without proper approval. Hell, I was a senior officer for a bank and couldn't go in the vault.

It would be too easy to call out the under class in this thread.


I don't know about that. Everyone knows that cashiers do not have the money to go to court to file a complaint for an unlawful firing. Our opinions on the topic will be hard to place.

/underclass
 
2010-05-19 02:14:50 AM
Sun God: DingleberryMoose: Most minimum/low wage places can and do drop people on the drop of a hat. There is an infinite quantity of people willing to work their asses off for minimum wage. When they mess up, just get another one. No biggie. It's not like we have to train them.

In many US states the "right to work" law means you can fire someone for wearing the wrong socks. You don't need a good reason. Even if they have a funny black/ethnic name. That's why there are unions.


"Employment at will." And it's a damn sight better than working in a union shop. In my experience, anyhow. YMMV. The union killed the company I used to work for with demands the company simply could not meet and remain competitive. Both methods of employment have inherent weaknesses.

I wish we had more backstory on this article. Mom could have come up short on her drawer or done something else out of line. We just don't know.
 
2010-05-19 02:15:36 AM
Bennie Crabtree: in theory, etc.

---

Normally, I'd agree. But since Americans of African descent make up, at most, what? 16% of the US population? Why not take the name-game out altogether, and just put a number in the "name" line?

In the military, our laundry tag was the initial of our last name followed by the last four of our social. The odds of two people with the same contact information and applying for the same job at the same time are infinitesimal. Why not use this? Instead of looking for racial "equality" it's now a moot point, it's purely merit-based.

And for those who want to say minorities are educationally-disadvantaged, I say:

A. You're wrong, look at the Asians, minority yet regularly out-perform caucasians regardless of background.

B. Every other child in the US performs relatively similarly when socio-economic backgrounds are statistically controlled for.

Doesn't mean I don't advocate additional programs for high-risk areas as long as they are results-oriented - insofar as pay for the instructors.

/Jaime Escalante should have died on a bed of gold bricks for what he accomplished ...
 
2010-05-19 02:18:02 AM
Knucklepopper: RichieLaw: Also, again, no one has answered why its acceptable to denigrate black culture.

It's not, but it's Fark. Most of these douches live in gated communities and rarely venture outside to pink up their skin. So they rant from home.


Do you really think this is about black culture? And what does that even mean? Stop looking at race. You are a racist to do so. Race is not important. It's a political trick.

If this Qwerda had been any other race, it would still be a hilariously stupid name that people made fun of. It has nothing to do with blackness. People make fun of stupid white people names all the time.

It's like with Obamacare opponents being called racist. That'sa trick to polarize people. No one seriously thinks these people who oppose Romney care and Hillary care only oppose Obamacare because Barack has dark skin.

Qwerda is just a plain awkward and funny name. If you really think this is dog whistle racism to laugh at it, you're a nutjob.
 
2010-05-19 02:27:20 AM
Slackfumasta

Good to see that latent racism is still alive and well on Fark.

"Qwerda is a funny name, but not because she's BLACK! Oh, and I'm 100% sure that after 11 years she totally deserved to be fired on the spot in front of her daughter on Take Your Child To Work Day.


You understand that's not really a thing, right? I mean, it exists, but in no way are employers required to respect or even allow it. Her work did not allow you to bring people in without prior consent, she did, end of story.

Not to mention she brought a child to a check 'n go, which is a pretty terrible place to bring a kid.
 
2010-05-19 02:33:39 AM
Check 'n Go? She wanted her daughter to be proud how mommy is basically a henchman working for the legal loansharking mob and can see how you can crush someone's life one loan at a time?
 
2010-05-19 02:41:05 AM
"family members from certain areas"

Sounds like it might end up being a stupid thing to say in the long run..

That said, I can see NO reason why any employer should be expected, without permission, to allow non employees in their workplaces, especisally in a financial business.. I mean come ON.
 
2010-05-19 02:45:48 AM
Sun God:

Thanks for the Coz reference. One of the smartest and most biting commentators ever. Too bad he's of the grand-pa era now.

Arcanum: Obamacare is about as racist as Hillarycare 16 years ago. By that I mean: it's not. But you can't deny that if you get a job app listing the first name as "Shanice" or "Deshawn" that the name doesn't conjure certain expectations.

Or as Wanda Sykes said, "Sisters, stop naming your kids these crazy names! You're confusing the white folk. They're walking away asking, 'so the first one was 'Chandalier' and the other was 'Chlamydia''?"

Fair or not, names have power. Check out Kirk Douglas' birth name...
 
2010-05-19 02:47:45 AM
Arcanum: If this Qwerda had been any other race, it would still be a hilariously stupid name that people made fun of. It has nothing to do with blackness. People make fun of stupid white people names all the time.

I like to make fun of the name "John Slocum."

Let's pretend you're looking at a person's resume who's name is Paul Lee. I assume you would think that person is Asian--and therefore smart, even though his real given name is probably not Paul.

Let's also pretend you're looking at a person's resume who's name is Faniqua Smith. You would assume that person is black--and therefore questionable.

Who do you hire based on the resumes? What they eat?
 
2010-05-19 02:48:15 AM
sandreckoner: PacManDreaming: I dunno. If they couldn't figure out a way to get rid of her any sooner, in the 11 years she worked for them, she probably wasn't too much of a fark up.

People change. We just terminated a guy who had been around for roughly 9 years, never had any real issues with him until the last one, during which he made up for 8 years of lost time.

/bets conservatives have no problem with this lady being fired, because conservatives are racist
//I haven't finished reading the thread yet. Has anyone managed to spin a Palin joke out of this? I'll be very disappointed if not.


UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: 555-FILK: WTFDYW: Oh great. GAT is here.

Ignore as I might, this asshole still bites.

/he does kinda mumble with Obamas dick in his mouth
//how's that tasting there GAT?

Been Farking for years and he's the only one I have on IGNORE. He shiats every single thread he's on.

Ignore him or you won't enjoy Fark no matter what your political beliefs are. He'll make it a point to ruin every thread.

I think he's a miserable, lonely human in need of much attention which he seeks from being the biggest jackass on Fark.

IGNORE HIM!

BTW, I only know this because you responded to him so I know who you're talking about.

Sorry for the threadjack folks.


I've had him favorited for about a year now. You must disagree with him.


Straw man. Try again.
 
Ral
2010-05-19 02:51:21 AM
Jermaine Jackson, one of Michael Jackson's brothers, named his daughter Jermajesty.

/really wish I were making it up
 
2010-05-19 02:54:54 AM
Pancoaifo: Thanks for the Coz reference. One of the smartest and most biting commentators ever. Too bad he's of the grand-pa era now.

Don't dismiss him. He created Fat Albert--one of the most "don't let the white man bring you down--be nice!" cartoons in history. That's important.
 
2010-05-19 02:57:40 AM
Arcanum: Do you really think this is about black culture? And what does that even mean? Stop looking at race. You are a racist to do so. Race is not important. It's a political trick.

You need to look at the thread and the comments and photos posted before you go correcting me. Try it.
 
2010-05-19 02:58:54 AM
Gramma 2010-05-18 10:43:48 PM
The real story here is that there was someone in Flint that was still employed.

Now that she is fired, some other sap can take the job with this asshat company. Eleven years on the job and she gets fired for bringing her kid to work. I call Bullshiat.
 
2010-05-19 03:14:04 AM
Pancoaifo: was 'Chandalier' and the other

Off topic, but funny: Bill Lear, the inventor of the Learjet, named his daughter, Chanda.
 
2010-05-19 03:15:08 AM
Didn't know he created that show, I've just seen his stand-up (and the Cosby Show, of course). You know, where he had actual creative control ...

On the balance, the Coz has done more for the black community than almost anyone else. He was never a race pimp, he never got inflammatory for the sake of popularity, he was simply funny as hell and reasonable.

The worst thing he did was create a caricature of ghetto life that reached a lot of white kids at the same time and wear those godawful sweaters.

Wow, what a basterd he was ...
 
2010-05-19 03:29:54 AM
Pancoaifo: The worst thing he did was create a caricature of ghetto life that reached a lot of white kids at the same time and wear those godawful sweaters.

Wow, what a basterd he was ...


Actually he also made The Cosby Show which was very popular among white people. It was a show about an educated black family. Wow! Who knew that was possible! That show ran for 6 or 7 seasons.
 
2010-05-19 03:44:21 AM
Take Your Daughter To Work Day AKA 'Someone's Kid Is Getting Eaten By The Machinery Day'.
 
2010-05-19 03:50:23 AM
Lots43: Take Your Daughter To Work Day AKA 'Someone's Kid Is Getting Eaten By The Machinery Day'.

Nom Nom Nom
www.gunaxin.com
/hot like fresh pressed sheets
 
2010-05-19 04:00:50 AM
I'm hoping to find someone someday named Cthulu F'guan Ryl'yeh.
 
2010-05-19 04:05:14 AM
Sarcasm escapes you, doesn't it? Apparently, quote-mining doesn't.

Bill Cosby is one of the greatest celebrities out there, IMO. He refused to let the Cosby Show be about a "black family" because he wanted it to be about "family". (Check my posts, I said I watched it.)

If you didn't realize it was a joke when I mentioned the sweaters to prove how "bad" he was ... well, sorry, can't help you ...
 
2010-05-19 04:08:25 AM
Pancoaifo: Sarcasm escapes you, doesn't it? Apparently, quote-mining doesn't.

Bill Cosby is one of the greatest celebrities out there, IMO. He refused to let the Cosby Show be about a "black family" because he wanted it to be about "family". (Check my posts, I said I watched it.)

If you didn't realize it was a joke when I mentioned the sweaters to prove how "bad" he was ... well, sorry, can't help you ...


Are you arguing with yourself?
 
2010-05-19 04:09:48 AM
She named her daughter 'Precious'. And gets ridiculed by a load of people who would have had no problem, thirty years ago, naming their daughters 'Prudence' or 'Chastity'.

Right.
 
2010-05-19 04:11:50 AM
RichieLaw: It just seemed that you were arguing that funny names were endemic to black culture, and were a result of ignorance and stupidity, versus a cultural identity.

A cultural identity of putting a Ja or a Da or a La in front of a real name?

Yo what up JaMarcus.
 
2010-05-19 04:13:14 AM
repurposed4you.com
 
2010-05-19 04:24:31 AM
Knucklepopper: Yahtzee! Cool burn, bro.

I'm racking out, too late to argue with obtuse alts ...
 
2010-05-19 04:28:20 AM
hipster_slayer: Either these Check N Go folks are the biggest buttholes on the planet or there is more to the story than this. Hope the little girl isn't too upset.

Check N Go owners are serious scumbags. These are the guys that will front you a payroll advance for 98 percent interest.
 
2010-05-19 04:29:17 AM
We don't have enough detail to know if the firing was wrongful or not. It apparently violated policy to have a guest without prior approval in the business (which makes sense given they are handling quantities of money and are a target of crime). We don't know the circumstances involved with the decision to terminate her. It is probably bad form to do it infront of her kid, but we don't know other circumstances where that may have been appropriate. All we have is a story from the womans perspective that she was let go for bringing her daughter to work with her (on a random day not the designated day that the business participates in assuming it does so). I would still expect her to file suit and given the firing was in front of a minor, she will probably get some money unless she did something inappropriate when they confronted her on the child in the workplace.

Regarding the name discussion. People do not live in a bubble have have real world experience that they incorporate in their views. Given my experience, and obviously many in the thread, there was a high likelihood that the name would be associated with an African American. Based on experience, a large number of unique names are generated by African Americans in recent years. Is it racist to disparage an entire race for the choices of its members, probably so. However when a large enough portion are engaging in an activity, especially one with known consequences in terms of hiring, school acceptance, etc., it definately seems like self-destructive behavior and a poor choice (irregardless of the fact it is wrong to prejudge people based on a name).

You deal with the society you have and when you choose to do certain things, people will call you on them and make insenstive remarks. Over time things will shift, but right now we are far from color blind, and doing something that fairly easily identifies you as a member of a certain race would seem like a poor choice.
 
2010-05-19 04:36:13 AM
Snargi: Check N Go owners are serious scumbags. These are the guys that will front you a payroll advance for 98 percent interest.

A fool and their money are lucky enough to be together in the firs tplace.
 
2010-05-19 04:41:41 AM
lilplatinum: RichieLaw: It just seemed that you were arguing that funny names were endemic to black culture, and were a result of ignorance and stupidity, versus a cultural identity.

A cultural identity of putting a Ja or a Da or a La in front of a real name?

Yo what up JaMarcus.


"Ya hurd 'bout DeShawn? He got capped!"
"DeShawn? Yo man, I heard he was messing around on LaQuinta"
"Maan, dat DeLaDela, heard he was a hermaphrodite."
 
2010-05-19 04:41:43 AM
Daedalus27: unique names are generated by African Americans in recent years. Is it racist to disparage an entire race for the choices of its members, probably so

Black people who name their kids "Uniqua" or other names like that are shooting their kids in the foot. The kids. Fundamentally, your kid with the weird name is probably black. Yes, it's racist. It isn't me who is the racist.

Perhaps we should just attach a photo of ourselves to our resume.
 
2010-05-19 04:45:54 AM
Coming on a Bicycle: She named her daughter 'Precious'. And gets ridiculed by a load of people who would have had no problem, thirty years ago, naming their daughters 'Prudence' or 'Chastity'.

No, if old enough, I'm sure the same people made fun of those names too.
 
2010-05-19 04:46:29 AM
bmihura: Judging from the pic, I am guessing she will slip and fall on their property next time it rains or snows and sue the company.

Then justice is done!



I would like to read a brief regarding your judgment.

Or lack thereof...
 
2010-05-19 04:53:44 AM
jingks: Coming on a Bicycle: She named her daughter 'Precious'. And gets ridiculed by a load of people who would have had no problem, thirty years ago, naming their daughters 'Prudence' or 'Chastity'.

No, if old enough, I'm sure the same people made fun of those names too.


No, because those names meant that you were, or aspired to be, an Ivy League educated millionaire. And those people aren't made fun of. Or if they are, they just send their butler to remove you from the estate grounds.
 
2010-05-19 04:57:10 AM
Coming on a Bicycle: No, because those names meant that you were, or aspired to be, an Ivy League educated millionaire.

I thought the name Chastity meant that the girl was or aspired to be a stripper.
 
2010-05-19 04:59:59 AM
lilplatinum: I thought the name Chastity meant that the girl was or aspired to be a stripper.

Exactly. The majority of people with names like that came from white trash families who thought the names added class but resulted in the exact opposite. Just because someone who is already rich gives their kid a "unique" name, doesn't mean your uniquely named kid will one day become rich. It's like raaaaaiiiiiinnn....
 
2010-05-19 05:01:03 AM
Coming on a Bicycle: No, because those names meant that you were, or aspired to be, an Ivy League educated millionaire. And those people aren't made fun of. Or if they are, they just send their butler to remove you from the estate grounds.

I've never met a woman named Prudence or Chastity. I have met a woman named Muffin. Her friend was named Tolerance. They called her Trixie.
 
2010-05-19 05:03:41 AM
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2010-05-19 05:24:31 AM
lilplatinum: Yo what up JaMarcus.

DON'T SAY THAT NAME!
 
2010-05-19 05:26:03 AM
kimphelpsblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-05-19 05:27:54 AM
I like how the NBA page says about ole Rapey McBryant:

"His parents named him after a type of steak (kobe) seen on a restaurant menu prior to his birth"

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/bio.html
 
2010-05-19 05:37:10 AM
lilplatinum: I like how the NBA page says about ole Rapey McBryant:

"His parents named him after a type of steak (kobe) seen on a restaurant menu prior to his birth"

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/bio.html


I thought he was Italian.
 
2010-05-19 05:52:45 AM
Sun God: I thought he was Italian.

Yes with the legendary Italian statesman "Jelly Bean" Bryant as his father..

/they lived in Itai land for a while.
 
2010-05-19 05:54:48 AM
Sun God: DingleberryMoose: Most minimum/low wage places can and do drop people on the drop of a hat. There is an infinite quantity of people willing to work their asses off for minimum wage. When they mess up, just get another one. No biggie. It's not like we have to train them.

In many US states the "right to work" law means you can fire someone for wearing the wrong socks. You don't need a good reason. Even if they have a funny black/ethnic name. That's why there are unons.


How about getting rid of the reason unions initially form - a mutual lack of respect? Also, RTW seems to be accompanied by a 'holier than thou, blame the government' attitude by business.

Disposability is not a valid excuse for the lack of respect, but a symptom of this problem.

DingleberryMoose:

"Employment at will." And it's a damn sight better than working in a union shop. In my experience, anyhow. YMMV. The union killed the company I used to work for with demands the company simply could not meet and remain competitive. Both methods of employment have inherent weaknesses.


Until that is used against you for some H1-b that was never disclosed until the last minute. Or when they use that to avoid a US citizen for similar purposes. Once the unions are gone, expect them to target all US citizens. Even the most union-hating folk that have would survive in other times.

Unions? Not the right solution, but what good defense(no, the market doesn't count) can there be when all the choices are equally farked? How about replacing contempt with an initial level respect? Then if there's a legitimate claim, there is less desire to litigate or unionize.

Oh, and the business will still be paying for her, courtesy of the US Government. Violation of policy or not. I hope they dont mind that she is most likely(by what her work & wage was) going to be a leech.
 
2010-05-19 06:03:39 AM
sethstorm: Sun God: DingleberryMoose: Most minimum/low wage places can and do drop people on the drop of a hat. There is an infinite quantity of people willing to work their asses off for minimum wage. When they mess up, just get another one. No biggie. It's not like we have to train them.

In many US states the "right to work" law means you can fire someone for wearing the wrong socks. You don't need a good reason. Even if they have a funny black/ethnic name. That's why there are unons.

How about getting rid of the reason unions initially form - a mutual lack of respect? Also, RTW seems to be accompanied by a 'holier than thou, blame the government' attitude by business.

Disposability is not a valid excuse for the lack of respect, but a symptom of this problem.

DingleberryMoose:

"Employment at will." And it's a damn sight better than working in a union shop. In my experience, anyhow. YMMV. The union killed the company I used to work for with demands the company simply could not meet and remain competitive. Both methods of employment have inherent weaknesses.


Until that is used against you for some H1-b that was never disclosed until the last minute. Or when they use that to avoid a US citizen for similar purposes. Once the unions are gone, expect them to target all US citizens. Even the most union-hating folk that have would survive in other times.

Unions? Not the right solution, but what good defense(no, the market doesn't count) can there be when all the choices are equally farked? How about replacing contempt with an initial level respect? Then if there's a legitimate claim, there is less desire to litigate or unionize.

Oh, and the business will still be paying for her, courtesy of the US Government. Violation of policy or not. I hope they dont mind that she is most likely(by what her work & wage was) going to be a leech.


She was legally fired. Her employer can allow her to collect unemployment. Part of her wages were insurance against getting unemployed, as were part of the wages paid to her by her employer.
 
2010-05-19 06:06:59 AM
lilplatinum: kimphelpsblog.files.wordpress.com

NooOoOooo aagghhh!!

/SO so glad he is gone
 
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