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(NYPost)   So you probably heard about that mosque some Muslims are building near Ground Zero. But had you heard what day they have the Grand Opening scheduled for?   (nypost.com) divider line 307
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2010-05-14 07:32:31 PM
Well, this comes from the NY Post so it's hard to tell if it contains any factual information.
 
2010-05-14 07:35:06 PM
Terrible idea on a grand opening date.

Let's imagine the redneck mindset on this one...

Hmmm...be a durn shame if'n anything were ta happen to it.
 
2010-05-14 07:38:18 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2010-05-14 07:39:27 PM
Con_Authority: Well, this comes from the NY Post so it's hard to tell if it contains any factual information.

Yep, NYPost got it wrong. The group hopes construction on the project will begin by the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
Link (new window)
 
2010-05-14 07:45:06 PM
Now you know how most of felt when a bunch of anti-government rednecks were waving guns around on April 19th.
 
2010-05-14 07:48:17 PM
At least the Germans did not make a Hitler memorial that neo-nazis can go to and point from and say our line of thinking did that. Dachau is a somber reminder of the atrocities that man can do to man. Allowing another place that all current and would be fundamentalist Islamic terrorists to Hajj to just seems fundamental flawed.
 
2010-05-14 07:50:55 PM
Lets try that again...
Link (new window)
 
2010-05-14 07:52:15 PM
Well crap...
Link (new window)
 
2010-05-14 07:53:33 PM
eurotrader: At least the Germans did not make a Hitler memorial that neo-nazis can go to and point from and say our line of thinking did that. Dachau is a somber reminder of the atrocities that man can do to man. Allowing another place that all current and would be fundamentalist Islamic terrorists to Hajj to just seems fundamental flawed.

Is English your first language?
 
2010-05-14 07:57:05 PM
eurotrader: At least the Germans did not make a Hitler memorial that neo-nazis can go to and point from and say our line of thinking did that. Dachau is a somber reminder of the atrocities that man can do to man. Allowing another place that all current and would be fundamentalist Islamic terrorists to Hajj to just seems fundamental flawed.

If I understand what you're saying.....

Fark it, no one knows WTF you're trying to say
 
2010-05-14 07:57:37 PM
If this pisses people off. especially the people that hate muslims, Good.
 
2010-05-14 08:03:46 PM
Its a shame New Yorkers cant pull their collective heads out of their sandy vaginas long enough to, you know, build somrthing there where the world trade center used to be before a mosque was planned and erected. We already know their government entities can work against eachother to prevent buildings (that arent mosques) from being built at ground zero. Howzabout they try something new and work together to get a building into the air there? At this rate there will be kids in high school whose parents had not yet met on 9/11/2001 before a skyscraper is standing where either of the twin towers used to be.
 
2010-05-14 08:05:58 PM
tweekster: If this pisses people off. especially the people that hate muslims, Good.

You're a peach!
 
2010-05-14 08:12:51 PM
I did hear, in an earlier thread.
 
2010-05-14 08:16:43 PM
this is kinda like those kids wearing those flag shirts on cinco de mayo.

kinda
 
2010-05-14 08:25:23 PM
I think a 110 story deli with lots and lots of pork products might be a good idea.
 
2010-05-14 08:35:09 PM
RobertBruce: I think a 110 story deli with lots and lots of pork products might be a good idea.

What kinda New York Deli has pork?
 
2010-05-14 08:44:29 PM
Hobodeluxe: this is kinda like those kids wearing those flag shirts on cinco de mayo.

kinda


In much the same way a gyro is like a nuclear submarine.
 
2010-05-14 09:02:38 PM
mikaloyd: RobertBruce: I think a 110 story deli with lots and lots of pork products might be a good idea.

What kinda New York Deli has pork?


A New York deli.

Which leads to the inevitable discussion of what is a "deli".
 
2010-05-14 10:54:16 PM
eurotrader: At least the Germans did not make a Hitler memorial that neo-nazis can go to and point from and say our line of thinking did that. Dachau is a somber reminder of the atrocities that man can do to man. Allowing another place that all current and would be fundamentalist Islamic terrorists to Hajj to just seems fundamental flawed.

Remember that time you posted that incomprehensible clap trap in that thread that one time?
Remember that?
Yeah, that was awesome.
 
2010-05-15 06:44:57 AM
The trolls are going to come out of the woodwork for this one, aren't they?
 
2010-05-15 06:49:58 AM
djkutch: mikaloyd: RobertBruce: I think a 110 story deli with lots and lots of pork products might be a good idea.

What kinda New York Deli has pork?

A New York deli.

Which leads to the inevitable discussion of what is a "deli".


I used to get the best ham and swiss on rye at a local deli in Boston when I was a kid. Probably still can.
 
2010-05-15 06:50:52 AM
They should call it "Victory Mosque"
 
2010-05-15 06:52:00 AM
Con_Authority: Well, this comes from the NY Post so it's hard to tell if it contains any factual information.

i789.photobucket.com
 
2010-05-15 06:53:56 AM
This is the type of thing that leads to *less* bombings in our country, methinks. I've read that the reason 911 wasn't capitalized on, and why there are more bombings in Europe in the past 9 years, is b/c the Muslims are more closely interwoven in U.S. society. In Europe, the separation of 'us'/'them' is greater. Having a mosque opening on that site on that day will bring back painful memory for some, but overall it will keep us safer. Idk.
 
2010-05-15 06:56:25 AM
Regardless of its opening date (as there seems to be a bit of disagreement as to when that is), building a mosque on Ground Zero is just a bad idea all around. I see what they're getting at, but the best intentions and whatnot.

If nothing else, it would be firebombed to the ground within a week.
 
2010-05-15 06:57:13 AM
Kriggerel: They should call it "Victory Mosque"


The Salam Alaikum Freedom Mosque of America.
 
2010-05-15 06:58:06 AM
The Cordoba Mosque? Will all it's furniture be upholstered in fine Corinthian leather?

www.lataco.com

/They should hire Ricardo Montalban as a spokesman
//you know, if he wasn't dead
 
2010-05-15 07:00:55 AM
BigBooper: /They should hire Ricardo Montalban as a spokesman
//you know, if he wasn't dead


Hey now, a zombie spokesman would be awesome and I'd be on board with that.
 
2010-05-15 07:02:31 AM
mitchcumstein1: eurotrader: At least the Germans did not make a Hitler memorial that neo-nazis can go to and point from and say our line of thinking did that. Dachau is a somber reminder of the atrocities that man can do to man. Allowing another place that all current and would be fundamentalist Islamic terrorists to Hajj to just seems fundamental flawed.

Is English your first language?


Post courtesy of google translate
 
2010-05-15 07:02:32 AM
Fluorescent Testicle: Regardless of its opening date (as there seems to be a bit of disagreement as to when that is), building a mosque on Ground Zero is just a bad idea all around. I see what they're getting at, but the best intentions and whatnot.

If nothing else, it would be firebombed to the ground within a week.


Who ever get caught will probably be charged with a hate crime.
 
2010-05-15 07:02:56 AM
"If the Japanese decided to open a cultural center across from Pearl Harbor, that would be insensitive," Sipos told me. "If the Germans opened a Bach choral society across from Auschwitz, even after all these years, that would be an insensitive setting. I have absolutely nothing against Islam. I just think: Why there?"

Across from Pearl Harbor, as in in the water? Odd image aside, I am not sure why they would choose to erect a cultural center notably and purposefully near Pearl Harbor unless people had a bigoted ignorance of the Japanese people due to the actions at Pearl Harbor. Not certain this is a commonly held or often repeated prejudice in our society. Now that you mention this, though, constructing a Japanese cultural center near Pearl Harbor might be a good idea considering how easily we forget what we did to fellow countrymen due to ancestry in a time of war. Quite a poignant message, I would say, for this article.

They are building the mosque there because they want the attention. Unfortunately, this will generate an enormity of negative attention, but the intent appears to be to represent a group who aren't extremists who brought down the WTC but a group who wishes to "be part of rebuilding lower Manhattan." Maybe they are attention whoring, maybe they don't realize the backlash this could cause, and maybe they are merely hopeful, but the aggravation over this is absurd.
 
2010-05-15 07:03:06 AM
Call the mosque what it's meant to be: A shrine to the highjackers of 9/11.
 
2010-05-15 07:03:26 AM
Really, really bad idea. What farktard PR firm came up with this idea?
 
2010-05-15 07:03:49 AM
Clearly they're hoping for an Invictus storyline type situation whereby embracing a people that is related to the disaster calms relations, but if that's the case then they're drawing parallels between regular muslims and those who murder in the name of Islam.

Tough one. You can't just say it'd be better if they didn't do it... because it could be a good idea (on the whole, from a distance), I just don't believe they've thought of everything.

You can't please all the people all the time.. and a lot of those people are New Yorkers.
 
2010-05-15 07:06:53 AM
I am sorry to thread jack what I am sure will be a well thought out and reasoned debate beginning, but is that . . . stuff at the end of page two actual content of the the NY POST? Really? What a wonderful country.(said with great sarchaism)
 
2010-05-15 07:06:57 AM
There's already a mosque at that location, which TFA curiously omits. They're expanding it.
 
2010-05-15 07:07:37 AM
Andria Peyser is an ignorant ultra right wing yellow journalist.

And at least SOMETHING is getting built down there. Ten years later and there is still a hole in the ground.
 
2010-05-15 07:08:02 AM
1. Announce mosque near ground zero
2. As public outcry builds, accept donations to build it elsewhere
3. Profit
 
axd
2010-05-15 07:08:16 AM
Man this thread make me hate humanity.
Actually, Fark in general makes me hate humanity. Why the hell do I even bother anymore?
 
2010-05-15 07:09:07 AM
Gee, it couldn't possibly because some Muslims might want to extend a gesture of goodwill and understanding to the victims? Express the idea that the attackers do not represent the vast majority of Muslims?

the human-rights group Stop Islamicization of America

...and that's just precious.


"If the Japanese decided to open a cultural center across from Pearl Harbor, that would be insensitive,"

Right, the Muslims should be diplomatic like all the Japanese immigrants in Hawaii, and leave the country in shame.

Wait, didn't they do that?
 
2010-05-15 07:13:03 AM
Paul Sipos, member of Community Board 1, said... "If the Japanese decided to open a cultural center across from Pearl Harbor... If the Germans opened a Bach choral society across from Auschwitz"

If their intentions were peaceful and respectful, I wouldn't have a problem with either one of those ideas. If a cultural center or a choral society or this mosque are at the best places to serve the needs of the community (there are a lot of Muslims freely living in NYC, ya know), why not put it there? By this guy's reasoning:

No Japanese centers near Pearl Harbor, it's insensitive.
No Japanese restaurants in Honolulu, it's insensitive.
No Japanese TVs on Oahu, it's insensitive.
No Japs in Hawaii, it's insensitive.

/In other words, dude, grow up
 
2010-05-15 07:13:14 AM
Mudflap: Call the mosque what it's meant to be: A shrine to the highjackers of 9/11.

I'll give the planners of this Mosque the benefit of the doubt, and assume that they want to achieve their stated objectives.

However, there also can be no doubt that to a large number of Islamic radicals in the world, this Mosque would be seen as the shrine you mention. This Mosque would have some Muslims visiting it to celebrate their "Victory" in NY.

Of course it will attract violent idiots and racists who hate all Muslims as well. I can very easily see a redneck parking a truck bomb in front of it.

All in all, I'd say it's a bad idea.
 
2010-05-15 07:13:23 AM
Vangor: Across from Pearl Harbor, as in in the water? Odd image aside, I am not sure why they would choose to erect a cultural center notably and purposefully near Pearl Harbor unless people had a bigoted ignorance of the Japanese people due to the actions at Pearl Harbor.

These driving directions may be of interest to you. (Granted, it's 10 miles away, not within sight of the memorial.)
 
2010-05-15 07:13:53 AM
axd: Man this thread make me hate humanity.
Actually, Fark in general makes me hate humanity. Why the hell do I even bother anymore?


For such gems as: 'sarchaism'?
 
2010-05-15 07:14:01 AM
wrenchboy: Fluorescent Testicle: If nothing else, it would be firebombed to the ground within a week.

Who ever get caught will probably be charged with a hate crime.


Which is kinda ironic, seeing as how it's would be a hate crime.

/ Wait, I meant "unironic."
 
2010-05-15 07:15:38 AM
Fluorescent Testicle: Regardless of its opening date (as there seems to be a bit of disagreement as to when that is), building a mosque on Ground Zero is just a bad idea all around. I see what they're getting at, but the best intentions and whatnot.

If nothing else, it would be firebombed to the ground within a week.


You won't see me crying over it, actually I am one that will be protesting against it. They can build a temple of worship to do what they do elsewhere, which is fine by me.

ullasinnerplace.punt.nl
 
2010-05-15 07:17:58 AM
It's time to kill them all.

Every rock worshipin', goat farkin, poor hygene having, little boy farkin heathen in the world.

I have traveled extensively in the middle east, from the gulf war to the Afghan tribal areas, and I never met one that wasn't worth killin.
middleeastfacts.com
/profit mohamad, piss be on him
 
2010-05-15 07:19:13 AM
Arkanaut: Gee, it couldn't possibly because some Muslims might want to extend a gesture of goodwill and understanding to the victims? Express the idea that the attackers do not represent the vast majority of Muslims?

Unfortunately some people think of "muslim extremists" and latch on to the word "muslim", when really the word they should be more worried about is "extremist".
 
2010-05-15 07:19:31 AM
Muslims are assholes.
 
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