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(AZCentral)   Cops investigate a nudists mom and stepdad for being naked at home with her sons around. "I think it's a real slippery slope when the government wants to dictate to a parent that they can't be nude in their own home."   ( azcentral.com) divider line
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2010-05-08 06:24:29 PM  
phartman Quote 2010-05-08 05:01:19 PM
Man, the US is effed up. It's so ironic that so many people can be such tight-a$$ed prudes and still have more porn servers than the rest of the world combined.

/rtfa not


Thinking the exact same thing. Hang ups about nipples and pubes, but it's o.k. to let your preteen kid have a glock or let everyone go around with a concealed weapon. Yah. That makes sense..
 
2010-05-08 06:26:02 PM  

Bohemian: Criminal? Probably not.
The kids both said they want nothing to do with it and the parent & step-parent keep doing so in front of the kids. That is a problem. At that point it borders on abusive but I really am not sure at what level. Sounds like something where family court ordered counseling might be a good idea. If the parents are ignoring the kids requests to not have to put up with this and they continue to mentally scar them it sounds like some large judgment issues going on.


Jesus, you sound like you have issues.
 
2010-05-08 06:40:25 PM  
There are several opportunities for problems here.

If the nudism was just suddenly decided on one day, when the kids were already 10+ years old, it's going to be pretty weird and uncomfortable for them. Don't do that without a really involved family discussion first. However, if this is a regular thing the kids are exposed to and participate in from day one, rock on. Odds are they won't be as bothered by it.

Nudity at home, however, should never, ever, ever be illegal. Ever. It makes no sense, and is culturally bizarre as well. In several parts of the world (including the USA), a parent might bathe with his/her child in the early years. It's not considered sexual or dirty (unless they take a picture of it, then PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN).

Also, hasn't anyone EVER gone to a community swimming pool before? Remember the changing rooms? Nothing at home could possibly be as traumatic as a room full of naked 80 year old men with their legs spread on a bench chit-chatting about golf or O'Reilly or buying gold or whatever old men talk about.
 
2010-05-08 06:40:46 PM  

Failing_Junk: The 13-year-old said the couple continued to be nude in the home even though he told them he and his 11-year-old brother were unhappy with it.

This is the problem.


Agreed. Otherwise it's a non-issue but this sounds like they're trying to apply standards the kids weren't raised with and aren't comfortable with.
 
2010-05-08 06:49:35 PM  
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2010-05-08 06:50:16 PM  
The big long noses are at it again,sticking them,where they don't belong.
These evil freaks need to be deported to the Brazilian jungle to learn about living among other human beings.nude and without malice.
 
2010-05-08 06:58:24 PM  
Generally speaking, a parent wishing to retain custody doesn't do shiat to make the kids feel weird about being at home. This could be a form of sexual harassment to these children or, stay with me on this, it is a stretch, cause issues sexually as they age. They don't wish to see mom and new guy that penises mom naked. I wouldn't want to see my mom and dad naked, ever. I feel that's a normal request that should not be too traumatic for mom to follow up on. Do it on the weekends the kids are with dad and not at any time when the kids are or could be around.

This never had to go to court though, unless dad asked mom to knock it off and then she refused.
 
2010-05-08 07:16:55 PM  
Tweens & Teens are always biatching about something their parent are doing, this is just one more thing. What if it was Stifler's Mom?
 
2010-05-08 07:29:17 PM  

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NOT SAFE FOR ANYONE (new window)

but funny as hell
I particularly like how the litte girl is handling dad's junk
 
2010-05-08 07:41:40 PM  

Occam's Chainsaw: namatad: and, the kids have said they DONT like it/feel comfortable/what not.

That's the reduced custody red flag.


Would you feel the same way if the kids were not comfortable around the step-parent and they were objecting because the step-parent was Muslim, gay, or a different race and that was the basis of their discomfort?
 
2010-05-08 07:50:35 PM  

Alien Robot: Occam's Chainsaw: namatad: and, the kids have said they DONT like it/feel comfortable/what not.

That's the reduced custody red flag.

Would you feel the same way if the kids were not comfortable around the step-parent and they were objecting because the step-parent was Muslim, gay, or a different race and that was the basis of their discomfort?


Horny Mom and step-daddy walking around naked are not the same as Religion, Sexual orientation, or different race... if mommy married a gay, oriental, hindu and the two of them decided to walk around naked it would still be wrong.
 
2010-05-08 07:50:51 PM  
My dad used to walk around with his balls hanging out.

Seriously wish the State had intervened.
 
2010-05-08 08:05:46 PM  
Unless nudist colonies are made "adult only" the cops need to STFU and try going after real criminals, like pushers, murderers, and brown people.

If nudist colonies are legal, then there's nothing illegal about being naked in your own farking home.
 
2010-05-08 08:17:24 PM  

Eshkar: Alien Robot: Occam's Chainsaw: namatad: and, the kids have said they DONT like it/feel comfortable/what not.

That's the reduced custody red flag.

Would you feel the same way if the kids were not comfortable around the step-parent and they were objecting because the step-parent was Muslim, gay, or a different race and that was the basis of their discomfort?

Horny Mom and step-daddy walking around naked are not the same as Religion, Sexual orientation, or different race... if mommy married a gay, oriental, hindu and the two of them decided to walk around naked it would still be wrong.


You are stupid.

Don't reproduce.
 
2010-05-08 08:32:36 PM  
I've seen my mom and dad naked hundreds of times. It still happens from time to time, and I'm 24. It's never bothered me in the slightest. The only reason this shiat bothers the kids is because of silly American puritanism. Seeing a naked person cannot in anyway harm you. In certain contexts and with certain behaviours I suppose being naked in front of a kid can be bad(like if you were to make it a sexual thing). But simple nudity in and of itself is not in any way harmful. If seeing your parents naked is really something you never want to see you have serious issues. Seeing my parent naked barely even registers with me. And my parents are not gorgeous people. Just normal, average looking older people. Why are we all so convinced that being naked is dirty and we don't become clean till we layer up some clothes?
 
2010-05-08 08:32:43 PM  

sseye: Horny Mom and step-daddy walking around naked are not the same as Religion, Sexual orientation, or different race... if mommy married a gay, oriental, hindu and the two of them decided to walk around naked it would still be wrong.

You are stupid.

Don't reproduce.


um
so you think step-dad flashing his junk at a his step kid is the same as being hindu? or gay?

what part of his comment was supid?

or are you just a stupid troll?

it is one thing if a kid was brought up in a nudist household.
this would have been the norm.
and his stepdad being a nudist would not have been a "problem"

but now some stranger is waving his dick all over the place.
this is a bit strange and the kids are asking for help.

if the kid was brought up in an average so-so religious family and now his NEW step-dad is all CRAZY HARDCORE religious with beatings for disobedience and sin, you could expect the kid to ask for help.

bottomline, the kids dont like what is going on in their mom's house. the biological parents will now have the courts decide what the NORM should be. sucks, but it is the best the kids can get.

/god I hate stupid people
/and trolls
 
2010-05-08 08:36:22 PM  

sandinista!: I've seen my mom and dad naked hundreds of times. It still happens from time to time, and I'm 24. It's never bothered me in the slightest. The only reason this shiat bothers the kids is because of silly American puritanism. Seeing a naked person cannot in anyway harm you. In certain contexts and with certain behaviours I suppose being naked in front of a kid can be bad(like if you were to make it a sexual thing). But simple nudity in and of itself is not in any way harmful. If seeing your parents naked is really something you never want to see you have serious issues. Seeing my parent naked barely even registers with me. And my parents are not gorgeous people. Just normal, average looking older people. Why are we all so convinced that being naked is dirty and we don't become clean till we layer up some clothes?


ok, but now imagine that you are 12
and there is a stranger in your house walking around naked.
how do you feel now?
the fact that the kids are uncomfortable has NOTHING to do with the unfortunate fact that america is full of purtianical tards.

the kids are uncomfortable. something is wrong in their life.
they are kids asking for help.
should you just ignore them?
the whole thing is a bit creepy

/why yes, I have no pants on right now. but NO ONE wants to see me naked in normal discourse
 
2010-05-08 08:40:05 PM  

sandinista!: Seeing a naked person cannot in anyway harm you


Depends on who the naked person is you see.
 
2010-05-08 08:40:44 PM  

namatad: Occam's Chainsaw: namatad: parents disagree with the standards to raise the children when there is joint custody therefore a judge will decide.

Can a countersuit be filed arguing that the judge suffered from bias due to his/her own mores?
.

no
when divorced couple enter into a concent agreement over custody, they typically agree to having a court decide when they are unable to agree.
it is the ONLY way to solve issues like these.

I want my child raised lutheran. NO, I want my child raised Catholic. one parent forces the issue before the court, and the loser complains about it being unfair.

hahahahahaah

/personally, I think the parent who is paying child support should get to decide. PERIOD.



If one parent pays child support to the other the are usually both financialy supporting the child. Your desire to give one parent the ability to decide "period" in a joint custody situation is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.
 
2010-05-08 08:41:57 PM  
FTA:
The boys' mother and stepfather said that they did not regularly practice a nudist lifestyle and that the boys had only seen them nude by accident.

if it is classic accidental naked parents, who the fark cares.
that shiat happens, you are scared for life (you would be too if you saw my mom's vagina) and you get on with it (shudder)

on the other hand, if it is what the kid is claiming, more an all of the time thing
well then, why are they lying to the police about their parenting/family choices? what are they hiding?

/so now we have the he said, they said never ending problem of who to believe.
/why do these people have children in the first place?
 
2010-05-08 08:42:11 PM  
I don't see why the abstinence-only folks don't adopt this lifestyle more often. What better way to guarantee your kids won't have sex if they associate just being nekkid with their parents?
 
2010-05-08 08:46:02 PM  

jst3p: If one parent pays child support to the other the are usually both financialy supporting the child. Your desire to give one parent the ability to decide "period" in a joint custody situation is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.


dumbest? really? on fark?
A) was being sarcastic. sorry I forgot my @ symbol
2) was being hyperbolic. didnt think anyone would actually think that anyone would ever think this way.

but that being said, seriously, why are the children always given to the mother and the father always has to pay support?
it creeps me out, that we claim that we are an equal society.

as long as we refuse to treat women equally, women will never have equality

/I would guess that women get major custody, what, 90% of the time, with the men getting weekends and what not.
/that is equal how?
 
2010-05-08 08:46:15 PM  

namatad: sseye: Horny Mom and step-daddy walking around naked are not the same as Religion, Sexual orientation, or different race... if mommy married a gay, oriental, hindu and the two of them decided to walk around naked it would still be wrong.

You are stupid.

Don't reproduce.

um
so you think step-dad flashing his junk at a his step kid is the same as being hindu? or gay?


"being naked at home" = "flashing his junk"?

i'm all out of troll spray so i'll just say go fark yourself.

what part of his comment was supid?

the entire straw man approach.

the assumption that being naked is something that everyone agrees is wrong.

or are you just a stupid troll?

Troll or not I have no obligation to accept such idiocy without calling it for what it is.farking stupid.

it is one thing if a kid was brought up in a nudist household.
this would have been the norm.
and his stepdad being a nudist would not have been a "problem"

but now some stranger is waving his dick all over the place.
this is a bit strange and the kids are asking for help.


Stop making shiat up and crawl back under your bridge.


if the kid was brought up in an average so-so religious family and now his NEW step-dad is all CRAZY HARDCORE religious with beatings for disobedience and sin, you could expect the kid to ask for help.

Beating people is not only wrong but illegal.

But you are equating it to being naked. You have some serious issues.

Stay away from children. All of them.

bottomline, the kids dont like what is going on in their mom's house. the biological parents will now have the courts decide what the NORM should be. sucks, but it is the best the kids can get.

Bottom line, some immature ex-husband is flagging perfectly legal behavior as an excuse to take custody away. He should have his custody supervised from now on because he's probably a pervert.

/god I hate stupid people
/and trolls


So kill yourself.
 
2010-05-08 08:47:09 PM  

Kome: I don't see why the abstinence-only folks don't adopt this lifestyle more often. What better way to guarantee your kids won't have sex if they associate just being nekkid with their parents?


GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
seeing my parents naked all the time certainly would have delayed my sexuality
 
2010-05-08 08:48:29 PM  

namatad: /I would guess that women get major custody, what, 90% of the time, with the men getting weekends and what not.


[citation needed]

/easy for you to remedy: don't reproduce
//and shut up, troll
 
2010-05-08 08:57:23 PM  

sseye: Eshkar: Alien Robot: Occam's Chainsaw: namatad: and, the kids have said they DONT like it/feel comfortable/what not.

That's the reduced custody red flag.

Would you feel the same way if the kids were not comfortable around the step-parent and they were objecting because the step-parent was Muslim, gay, or a different race and that was the basis of their discomfort?

Horny Mom and step-daddy walking around naked are not the same as Religion, Sexual orientation, or different race... if mommy married a gay, oriental, hindu and the two of them decided to walk around naked it would still be wrong.

You are stupid.

Don't reproduce.


Your a f*cking retard perve that is supporting degenerate behavior... so skip don't reproduce and go straight to DIAFF.
 
2010-05-08 09:05:46 PM  

namatad: jst3p: If one parent pays child support to the other the are usually both financialy supporting the child. Your desire to give one parent the ability to decide "period" in a joint custody situation is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

dumbest? really? on fark?
A) was being sarcastic. sorry I forgot my @ symbol
2) was being hyperbolic. didnt think anyone would actually think that anyone would ever think this way.

but that being said, seriously, why are the children always given to the mother and the father always has to pay support?
it creeps me out, that we claim that we are an equal society.

as long as we refuse to treat women equally, women will never have equality

/I would guess that women get major custody, what, 90% of the time, with the men getting weekends and what not.
/that is equal how?


namatad: jst3p: If one parent pays child support to the other the are usually both financialy supporting the child. Your desire to give one parent the ability to decide "period" in a joint custody situation is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

dumbest? really? on fark?
A) was being sarcastic. sorry I forgot my @ symbol
2) was being hyperbolic. didnt think anyone would actually think that anyone would ever think this way.

but that being said, seriously, why are the children always given to the mother and the father always has to pay support?
it creeps me out, that we claim that we are an equal society.

as long as we refuse to treat women equally, women will never have equality

/I would guess that women get major custody, what, 90% of the time, with the men getting weekends and what not.
/that is equal how?


Your mistake, and the mistake of many others is that the court does not give a shiat about treating you and your spouse "equally". They care about what is in the best interests of the kid. In my case we have 50/50 physical custody and I pay a shiatton in child support because there is a huge disparity in our income. Is it fair? Immaterial, it is in the best interests of my kids so I suck it up and pay.

You come across like too many dads I know who pay 400 a month and think that's how much it costs to raise a kid.
 
2010-05-08 09:15:10 PM  
There is nothing sinful, evil, bad or disgraceful about nudity.

We are in fact, the only creatures in the known universe who use clothing as anything other then protection from the elements.

This is more retarded then the dumbest poster on Fark.
 
2010-05-08 09:24:59 PM  

fluffy2097: We are in fact, the only creatures in the known universe who use clothing as anything other then protection from the elements.


What are the creatures other than human that wear clothing solely to protect them from the elements?
 
2010-05-08 09:27:21 PM  
You know, when I was very little, and my mom would take me to the gym to go swimming, and being only 4 or 5, took me into the womens room while she changed. I don't really have any vivid memories, but I'm sure I saw my mom and other women naked in the changing room.

When I got a bit too old to do that, I would go with my father into the mens changing room. I'm sure I saw him naked, along with many other men.

It didn't fark me up at all. Nudity does not damage children. It just doesn't. Were my parents nudists, the worst mental scarring I'd have from growing up with them would be from having friends show up un-announced and catching my parents gardening naked or something. I'd never hear the end of it.
 
2010-05-08 09:28:56 PM  

rhiannon: fluffy2097: We are in fact, the only creatures in the known universe who use clothing as anything other then protection from the elements.

What are the creatures other than human that wear clothing solely to protect them from the elements?


Many animals use stuff to protect themselves from the elements. None of them ever dream about showing up to the watering hole without pants on.
 
2010-05-08 09:31:46 PM  

fluffy2097: None of them ever dream about showing up to the watering hole without pants on.


That's because most bars have rules about that.
 
2010-05-08 09:41:49 PM  

rhiannon: fluffy2097: We are in fact, the only creatures in the known universe who use clothing as anything other then protection from the elements.

What are the creatures other than human that wear clothing solely to protect them from the elements?


I was more curious if there were other creatures in the *known* universe that know to wear clothes... no mater if they are cold or not? I always thought they all just moved to Florida in the winter, if the cold bothered them.
 
2010-05-08 09:48:32 PM  

CasperImproved: rhiannon: fluffy2097: We are in fact, the only creatures in the known universe who use clothing as anything other then protection from the elements.

What are the creatures other than human that wear clothing solely to protect them from the elements?

I was more curious if there were other creatures in the *known* universe that know to wear clothes... no mater if they are cold or not? I always thought they all just moved to Florida in the winter, if the cold bothered them.


I've seen some small dogs in t-shirts before. Still don't know how they get into the damn things.
 
2010-05-08 09:58:12 PM  

rhiannon: sandinista!: Seeing a naked person cannot in anyway harm you

Depends on who the naked person is you see.


Ummm. not really.

Unless it happens to be Medusa.

Seriously, how does seeing something that you don't want to see in any way harmful.
The photons that bounce off someone's skin can't damage you.
 
2010-05-08 10:14:26 PM  
See, Trocadero knows what I'm talking about.
 
2010-05-08 10:15:23 PM  

namatad: no the decider just needs to decide.


No, no one needs to decide. This is not a case for the court system, it should be thrown right out, along with whether or not the kids are allowed to watch MTV or drink soda.

Not everything is a matter for the courts.

Taking the position you have makes the courts useful as a weapon to punish and a huge waste of taxpayer money.

PS- your posts are painful to read, learn English.
 
2010-05-08 10:15:42 PM  

kent_eh: rhiannon: sandinista!: Seeing a naked person cannot in anyway harm you

Depends on who the naked person is you see.

Ummm. not really.

Unless it happens to be Medusa.

Seriously, how does seeing something that you don't want to see in any way harmful.
The photons that bounce off someone's skin can't damage you.


Are you really saying that there is nothing you can see that will cause long term negative effect?

I take it back. This is even dumber than the last "dumbest thing I have ever read".


There are plenty of things that a person can see that may cause pretty significant damage, a nude person isn't one of them, but your statement is incorrect.
 
2010-05-08 10:24:59 PM  

namatad: so you think step-dad flashing his junk at a his step kid is the same as being hindu? or gay?

what part of his comment was supid?

or are you just a stupid troll?

it is one thing if a kid was brought up in a nudist household.
this would have been the norm.
and his stepdad being a nudist would not have been a "problem"

but now some stranger is waving his dick all over the place.
this is a bit strange and the kids are asking for help.


Let's try a parallel argument: "it is one thing if a kid was brought up in a nudist gay household. this would have been the norm.
and his stepdad being a nudist gay would not have been a 'problem' but now some stranger is waving his dick slobbering his tongue all over the place his dad. this is a bit strange and the kids are asking for help"

Still feel the same?
 
2010-05-08 10:26:26 PM  

Eshkar: Your a f*cking retard perve that is supporting degenerate behavior... so skip don't reproduce and go straight to DIAFF.


So being gay is perverted and is "supporting degenerate behavior"? WTF?
 
2010-05-08 10:36:52 PM  
OMG... somebody is naked!!!
(won't somebody think of the children!)
Damn, I don't understand the prudes, well I guess I can. I don't want to be naked in front of kids but I don't see a problem with it. If I did have a problem and also thought I should interfere in your life then dammit no nudity for you.
Of course I don't care, I had a doctor take care of my chances to reproduce. So you just do what ever you do, but if you harm that kid, I will get all internet tough guy all over you.
 
2010-05-08 11:28:09 PM  
Heh. I remember when this thread was cool maaan.

aaaannnd...

Wimminz Nudists be shoppin' floppin'.

*drops mic*

*craps on stage*

*exits*
 
2010-05-09 12:19:42 AM  

jst3p: Your mistake, and the mistake of many others is that the court does not give a shiat about treating you and your spouse "equally". They care about what is in the best interests of the kid. In my case we have 50/50 physical custody and I pay a shiatton in child support because there is a huge disparity in our income. Is it fair? Immaterial, it is in the best interests of my kids so I suck it up and pay.

You come across like too many dads I know who pay 400 a month and think that's how much it costs to raise a kid.


hahaha
no kids
and yah, BEST INTEREST of the kid
I have NO problem with that. REQUIRE IT.
odds are I would make shiat tons more than my wife.
and if I had less than 50/50 custody, I would expect to have to pay more. In a strange way it is why I dont complain about paying taxes for school systems, even when I have no children.
eduction is the best thing for society. period.
I can imagine being in the hell which a custody battle must be.
the idea that my crazy ex-wife would be a better primary care-giver than then crazy ex-husband? I can not imagine the hell it must be.

I do find it interesting that people assume that I would complain about child support. god I hope if I ever have kids it would never come to that. god I hope that I would able to be an adult and NOT make that poor kids life any harder than it just became.
 
2010-05-09 12:24:07 AM  

fluffy2097: You know, when I was very little, and my mom would take me to the gym to go swimming, and being only 4 or 5, took me into the womens room while she changed. I don't really have any vivid memories, but I'm sure I saw my mom and other women naked in the changing room.

When I got a bit too old to do that, I would go with my father into the mens changing room. I'm sure I saw him naked, along with many other men.

It didn't fark me up at all. Nudity does not damage children. It just doesn't. Were my parents nudists, the worst mental scarring I'd have from growing up with them would be from having friends show up un-announced and catching my parents gardening naked or something. I'd never hear the end of it.


this is probably true for the majority of kids.
your mom and dad changed a million diapers and that never scared anyone. same for trying on clothes and going to the doctor and and and .....

and then one day, BOOM, gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I am changing. I am naked. DONT COME IN!!!!

our brains developed to a new selfawareness of difference level and boom. things were different.

first time I saw my sister breast feeding. thank god she laughed and told me not to be stupid.
is there anything more beautiful than a mother and child?
is there anything less sexual?

/hah, have to tease me niece about that more. esp now that she is in college.
 
2010-05-09 12:29:15 AM  

namatad: jst3p: Your mistake, and the mistake of many others is that the court does not give a shiat about treating you and your spouse "equally". They care about what is in the best interests of the kid. In my case we have 50/50 physical custody and I pay a shiatton in child support because there is a huge disparity in our income. Is it fair? Immaterial, it is in the best interests of my kids so I suck it up and pay.

You come across like too many dads I know who pay 400 a month and think that's how much it costs to raise a kid.

hahaha
no kids
and yah, BEST INTEREST of the kid
I have NO problem with that. REQUIRE IT.
odds are I would make shiat tons more than my wife.
and if I had less than 50/50 custody, I would expect to have to pay more. In a strange way it is why I dont complain about paying taxes for school systems, even when I have no children.
eduction is the best thing for society. period.
I can imagine being in the hell which a custody battle must be.
the idea that my crazy ex-wife would be a better primary care-giver than then crazy ex-husband? I can not imagine the hell it must be.

I do find it interesting that people assume that I would complain about child support. god I hope if I ever have kids it would never come to that. god I hope that I would able to be an adult and NOT make that poor kids life any harder than it just became.


My apologies for the mis-characterization then. You sounded like the type is all. My bad.

I am lucky enough to have an ex that was able to (and is still) focus on the kids through the whole process (big fat checks every month help, I am sure). We are pretty good co-parents even if we weren't good partners.
 
2010-05-09 12:41:51 AM  

Alien Robot: Eshkar: Your a f*cking retard perve that is supporting degenerate behavior... so skip don't reproduce and go straight to DIAFF.

So being gay is perverted and is "supporting degenerate behavior"? WTF?


Excuse me? How in the bloody hell is being gay perverted? Being gay is a natural sexual orientation that is written into human genetics. Covering oneself is part of natural human behavior, If you want to run around your private house buck ass naked go right ahead; but not in front of children... especially those that express being uncomfortable around such behavior. Wearing clothing is not a learned behavior, it's just one of those things that humans have done since... well since recorded history. Yes there are the remote tribes that run around naked; but in the majority of human civilizations men and women have worn clothing. While the nude human form is something to be appreciated and not demonized it does have a proper time and place. Hey kids why don't you get to know your new step-daddy is not one of those times.
 
2010-05-09 12:43:04 AM  

mccallcl: No, no one needs to decide. This is not a case for the court system, it should be thrown right out, along with whether or not the kids are allowed to watch MTV or drink soda.

Not everything is a matter for the courts.

Taking the position you have makes the courts useful as a weapon to punish and a huge waste of taxpayer money.


no, of course not everything is a matter for the courts. but divorced parents force the courts into those matters all the time.
the parents force the courts to decide the most absurb things on a daily basis because the parents are unable to resolved the simplest of problems. which is why the parents got divorced in the first place.

should this dad have called the police? probably not. should have stopped by and asked what the story was. clearly, he decided to fark with them. and hence, the courts get involved.

/at this point, we can guess which parent was the nuttier one to start with.
 
2010-05-09 12:43:59 AM  

jst3p: namatad: jst3p: Your mistake, and the mistake of many others is that the court does not give a shiat about treating you and your spouse "equally". They care about what is in the best interests of the kid. In my case we have 50/50 physical custody and I pay a shiatton in child support because there is a huge disparity in our income. Is it fair? Immaterial, it is in the best interests of my kids so I suck it up and pay.

You come across like too many dads I know who pay 400 a month and think that's how much it costs to raise a kid.

hahaha
no kids
and yah, BEST INTEREST of the kid
I have NO problem with that. REQUIRE IT.
odds are I would make shiat tons more than my wife.
and if I had less than 50/50 custody, I would expect to have to pay more. In a strange way it is why I dont complain about paying taxes for school systems, even when I have no children.
eduction is the best thing for society. period.
I can imagine being in the hell which a custody battle must be.
the idea that my crazy ex-wife would be a better primary care-giver than then crazy ex-husband? I can not imagine the hell it must be.

I do find it interesting that people assume that I would complain about child support. god I hope if I ever have kids it would never come to that. god I hope that I would able to be an adult and NOT make that poor kids life any harder than it just became.

My apologies for the mis-characterization then. You sounded like the type is all. My bad.

I am lucky enough to have an ex that was able to (and is still) focus on the kids through the whole process (big fat checks every month help, I am sure). We are pretty good co-parents even if we weren't good partners.


you sound like one of the LUCKY ones. there are so many stories from HELL. shudder
 
2010-05-09 12:47:45 AM  

namatad: you sound like one of the LUCKY ones. there are so many stories from HELL. shudder


But remember, there are three sides to every one of those stories. "He never sees his kids" is often said by a woman who does her best to make sure that it stays true. On the flip side, "She makes it so I can't even see my kids" is often said by a man who makes no effort.

Sometimes they are both parent to the same kid.
 
2010-05-09 12:52:20 AM  

namatad: mccallcl: No, no one needs to decide. This is not a case for the court system, it should be thrown right out, along with whether or not the kids are allowed to watch MTV or drink soda.

Not everything is a matter for the courts.

Taking the position you have makes the courts useful as a weapon to punish and a huge waste of taxpayer money.

no, of course not everything is a matter for the courts. but divorced parents force the courts into those matters all the time.
the parents force the courts to decide the most absurb things on a daily basis because the parents are unable to resolved the simplest of problems. which is why the parents got divorced in the first place.

should this dad have called the police? probably not. should have stopped by and asked what the story was. clearly, he decided to fark with them. and hence, the courts get involved.

/at this point, we can guess which parent was the nuttier one to start with.


Well while I agree with you, I can also see it from the dad's pov; kids come home from the ex-wife's and tells you mommy has saggy c cups and new step-daddy hangs to the left; and they made pancakes sans-clothing... I would be farking pissed off... especially if while married to her the two of them never did such things... so this is relatively new behavior to dad. So lets see here... ex-wife has new husband... ex-wife and new hubby like to run around naked in front of my two young sons... in today's day and age dad's mind immediately jumps to worse case scenario that new hubby is some sort of perv and he was exposing himself to his 11 year old and 12 year old sons... so dad now has two options running through his head... the loudest being either shot gun or baseball bat, the next less rash option being call the cops.
 
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