hailin: Personally, I like cut men more than uncut men. They last longer and nothing gets as smelly down there than with an uncut man. In fact, I only dated one uncut guy for about two weeks before I couldn't stand it anymore.

date guys that shower

bluewall: So: what if an adult woman wants to undergo female circumcision? Would this be permitted her as a choice? At what point are things like clitoral piercings viewed as crossing the line?

as an adult, on her own body? it's her own body.

Braindeath: About how this is also an issue of control over a woman's entire sexual life and for the most part, male circumcision, while wrong, is not.

wrong. the reason it was resumed widely in the english speaking world WAS about that.

stop pretending that we're downplaying FGM when we say that it is morally reprehensible for the same reason MGM (not the movie company) is.

you're degrading BOTH genders when you try to claim that shiat.

Braindeath: This is much more serious for a woman but you can't seem to grasp that or you just refuse to for reasons I'm not quite clear on.

as someone who knows a woman who was the victim of FGM and detests it i can tell you: she would chew you a new asshole from now till next thursday for your "BUT BUT BUT! YOU HATE WOMEN! because you think both male and female genital mutilation are a crime, and that you say they're morally equivalent crimes!"

she's as "sexually functional" as a circumcised man - she can still have orgasms despite having her clitoral hood, clitoris and labia minora removed.

so between you, and an actual victim of FGM, i'm goin to go with her opinion

/she's in her 60s, white, christian and was born in Kansas to fundamentalist christian parents
//the same people who got circumcision restarted outside of the jewish community in the west also encouraged female genital mutilation

Braindeath: If you don't have a foreskin and you want it back, I understand there are methods to try to get one back.

they're only a partial restoration, and all the non-surgical ones take years. they can never restore the lost erogenous nerves.

ciocia: Except that a lot of female circumcision around the world includes more than the removal of the clitoral hood, like incision and infibulation. Sorry, but the bullshiat is entirely yours.

no, the bullshiat is yours.

You: FGM is wrong, and you're wrong for saying that genital mutilation of children of either gender is wrong

US: Genital mutilation of any child, no matter the gender, is morally reprehensible - and should be illegal.


the details of the actual mutilation are a different subject

And yes, many forms of female circumcision are more severe.

That doesn't make male circumcision any less reprehensible.

Penman: hailin: Personally, I like cut men more than uncut men. They last longer and nothing gets as smelly down there than with an uncut man. In fact, I only dated one uncut guy for about two weeks before I couldn't stand it anymore.

So you dated one uncut guy and assume everyone else is just like him?

hailin: Sorry, but with the extra skin there it sweats and gets smelly after a few hours no matter what you do.

Uh no, it doesn't "sweat" under the foreskin.

that and i'm sure she isn't about to chop off her labia because they're occasionally smelly, can sometimes trap particles of dirt/sand/lint/whatever.


/labia are beautiful - save the labia!

As someone who was genitally mutilated as an infant, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

To know that one's sexuality is instantly destroyed because someone cut too deep is beyond horrible. And the fact it can never be repaired is decimating.

I wish I could enjoy sex and have an orgasm, but I guess that will have to wait until the next life. I doubt that foreskin restoration will help. By the time I regrow it I'll be 40 and probably never be able to make up for all the experiences I've lost out on since I was a teen.

/The cartoon of the man with no penis says everything.
//I envy all of you who can feel normal stimulating pleasure, I really do.

xenomorpheus

i'm really sorry to hear that man. what happened? slip and remove the glans along with the foreskin?

People_are_Idiots: he "downsides" can regularly be treated with medicine versus lopping off an 1/8 of the penis.

or usually... just taking a shower and pulling back the foreskin and washing*


caveat: the foreskin is NOT meant to be retractable before sexual maturity - it becomes retractable between 11 and 19 years of age depending on the individual. forced retraction before it is ready damages it and usually will cause the need for corrective procedures.

coco ebert: This "ritual nick" sounds less invasive than male circumcision, actually. FGM is certainly worse than male circumsicion but this sounds like a way of preventing people from taking their daughters out of the country for far more harmful procedures.

It would be better to just get rid of all circumsicion. Totally unnecessary, except perhaps male circumsicion in countries with high rates of HIV.

it doesn't actually reduce transmissiblity of HIV. that was a flawed study as I've already explained why two or three times in this thread. Even if it wasn't flawed it's a difference between 0.2% vs 0.6% transmissiblity.

wear a freaking jimmy hat

Kazan: xenomorpheus

i'm really sorry to hear that man. what happened? slip and remove the glans along with the foreskin?

Thank you for your concern. I appreciate that.

They cut too much on the underside and cut into most of the nerves I'm guessing. Most likely got infected at that time also. I don't remember anything until I was 5 and I have yet to ask my parents if the doc told them of any circumcision complications. Experienced women tell me that it really looks chewed up on the underside.

I tried the vibrator test many times at different frequencies on the glans and nothing happened at all. A few years ago I seared the top of my glans on the bottom of a cast iron frying pan (yes I cooked breakfast naked at that time, not anymore) - I barely felt anything when it happened, I didn't think I was holding the pan too low. It eventually healed up just fine though.

I have heard the horror stories of the guys who get the whole tip cut-off. I don't think there is any amount of money in the world that could give them their dignity back.

Frak cancer research, they should work on delicate nerve replacement - I'd rather be riddled with cancer and die sexually fulfilled than to have this one frakkin itch I can never scratch

sweetmelissa31: benlonghair: Ya, because male circumcision does nothing to the sensitivity of the male organ.

Cutting off the clit would be equivalent to cutting off the entire penis.

Just curious if you read the article.

wittybanter: I wonder if that happens with chicks in countries with FGM?
"Ew, a clit! That is some weird looking shiat right there. It's like a little cock or something!"

How farked up is it to make fun of the way something NATURALLY looks?

Kazan: coco

I posted way at the beginning of the thread, homeslice, before seeing your precious comments. Calm the fark down.