lulz!

jbuist: Bullshiat.

This.

Weaver95: Yet the declassified FBI files show the FBI already had developed credible evidence suggesting that there was indeed a sniper and that one or more shots may have been fired at the guardsmen first.

And the FBI during that era was less than credible when it came to the subject of anti-war protesters.

The hell you say.

Mentat: Weaver95: Yet the declassified FBI files show the FBI already had developed credible evidence suggesting that there was indeed a sniper and that one or more shots may have been fired at the guardsmen first.

And the FBI during that era was less than credible when it came to the subject of anti-war protesters.

Yeah, apparently it's considered a bad thing when the FBI director blackmails Presidents in order to keep his job. Who knew?

...and the Associate Director rats out the President. Who woulda thunk it?

Yeah, the FBI run by "law and order" conservatives couldn't have possibly made up a justification to explain the cold blooded murder of four people.

Also, Moonie Times.

*Starts a draft of Rules of Engagement 2*

MorrisBird: Oh well, at least we had better music.

Yeah right. I dare you to argue that your music is better than THIS:

J. Edgar Hoover

Yeah, like anyone should trust that whoopty...

Neil Young unavailable for comment?

MorrisBird: My generation was so abused by the "greatest generation." You kids don't have any idea. I wore a black armband to 9th grade the day after these kids were shot. I got suspended from school. Oh well, at least we had better music.

Yeah, and then your generation gave us Reagan; good job there.

Oh of course. How convincing.

Eh, even if they were fired upon the response of "returning fire on a crowd of people" was absolutely not the right move.

See Massacre, Boston. 1770.

Newly declassified photo of the incident.

CSNY will not be amused when they read this article.

Wanted for Questioning? DAMN STRAIGHT!

log_jammin: MorrisBird: Oh well, at least we had better music.

and more drugs.


I'M MEETING YOU HALF WAY YOU STUPID HIPPIES!

I do like the Terry Norman reference. I've always felt he's an interesting character in this small piece of American history.

anyone else upset that only a few hippies got shot?

I was born in 82 - so I really don't give a damn about the whole thing. What little experience I have and what I know about hippies in general makes me wish they would all burn up in some sort of oven type device.

accelerus: anyone else upset that only a few hippies got shot?

While I dislike hippies and tend to view "torching an ROTC building" as bad, the thing that angers/worries me about what happened at Kent State was the whole "state sanctioned murder" thing. The use of deadly force to quell a riot is just the kind of grotesque abuse of power that the Constitution was designed to prevent - so high profile failures like the Kent State shootings are, too put it lightly, pretty godawful.

namatad: and those bullet holes could NOT have been made by the guardsmen?
they couldnt have been old?
did they find any bullets in the bullet holes?
were they checked againsts the guardsmen's rifles?
what kind of bullets were they?
rifle, handgun?




Would you describe these bullets as "pristine"?

tdpatriots12: While I dislike hippies and tend to view "torching an ROTC building" as bad, the thing that angers/worries me about what happened at Kent State was the whole "state sanctioned murder" thing. The use of deadly force to quell a riot is just the kind of grotesque abuse of power that the Constitution was designed to prevent - so high profile failures like the Kent State shootings are, too put it lightly, pretty godawful.

Considering it was 40 years ago and is still cited as a major domestic policy failure, I'd say we're very lucky.
It's fine; move on.

log_jammin: The_Sponge: 1) You want to talk about being suspended for a bullshiat reason?

damn...you really took that comment personally.

He's still butthurt about the grandma slappity thread. Also about whether or not abbreviations count in scrabble. THEY DON'T!!!

Britney Spear's Speculum: Newly declassified photo of the incident.

Nicely done.

Knucklepopper: Considering it was 40 years ago and is still cited as a major domestic policy failure, I'd say we're very lucky.
It's fine; move on.

I'm 24, I can't say it's in the back of my mind. But there's a Fark thread here on it and I'm putting off sleep for some reason, and since there's never really a good reason to post an opinion on the internet, I don't see why I need one now.

The_Sponge: MorrisBird: My generation was so abused by the "greatest generation." You kids don't have any idea. I wore a black armband to 9th grade the day after these kids were shot. I got suspended from school. Oh well, at least we had better music.


Get over yourself. The Greatest Generation dealth with the Depression and World War II. Everything was handed to you on a silver platter, and you acted like spoiled children.

You're both right.

Yesm they went through the Great Depression and World War II. The reprecvussions of which resulted in alcoholism, depression, PTSD, and their very own desire to give their children everything they didn't have growing up. The result, they were handed everything on a silver platter and were expected to continue to be seen and not heard as they got older. Hmmm.

We're paying for this attitude still. And we will be for a long time.