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(The New York Times)   Most people still watch TV together, as programs air, and without technological time-shifting. How quaint. Do they do it while sipping sarsaparilla and holding buggy whips?   (ideas.blogs.nytimes.com ) divider line
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2010-05-04 10:09:04 AM  
Hey, what's wrong with my sarsaparilla?
 
2010-05-04 10:14:17 AM  
Families spending time and sharing entertainment together? In the same room? What a collection of assholes!

/not sure what subby's point is
 
2010-05-04 10:17:04 AM  

Mugato: Families spending time and sharing entertainment together? In the same room? What a collection of assholes!

/not sure what subby's point is


You can watch TV together and still time-shift it so you can skip commercials, you know.
 
2010-05-04 10:22:14 AM  
I'd need to see demographic breakdowns of this. My guess is by the time the kids are old enough to have televisions and/or computers in their own rooms, this starts breaking down. And if you include empty-nesters, they may be less likely to have DVRs or willing to watch television on a computer.

I watch live sports on television. That's pretty much it. Everything else is time-shifted or watched online. Most of what my wife watches is time-shifted as well. We're both under 35.
 
2010-05-04 10:22:38 AM  
No my buggy whip entertainment is after the TV watching. And it doesn't involve the kids.
 
2010-05-04 10:43:35 AM  
We're going to drop our satellite service and just buy shows off of iTunes and get a Roku box soon. It will save us almost $500 a year.

\Knows where to buy actual buggy whips
\\For use on actual buggies
 
2010-05-04 10:52:59 AM  
We do about 50% Netflix, 50% network TV.

They have a distinctly different feel, even for the same programming. We feel less invested in TV, since we use the breaks to clean the kitchen, take a leak, etc. With Netflix, you automatically feel you can't miss anything, so you hit pause for all that stuff.

Call me old fashioned, but there's still something nice about the anticipation and payoff of watching a new episode when it's first broadcast. I think that's the last thing the networks have left. Same thing with movie theatres. Once you no longer care about the novelty of the episodes, it's all downhill for them.
 
2010-05-04 10:53:59 AM  

HeartBurnKid: You can watch TV together and still time-shift it so you can skip commercials, you know


Yes, I realize that, space man from the future. In fact I DVR a lot programs but the ones I really want to watch (which are down to about three), I do watch live. Not being able to ff through the commericals can be annoying but I'm usually doing other things anyway.
 
2010-05-04 10:56:47 AM  

The Icelander: We're going to drop our satellite service and just buy shows off of iTunes and get a Roku box soon.


Coming from a guy who only had 13 cable channels to begin with, I didn't see the Roku box as "saving us a bunch of money." It did, however, expand our entertainment options at least tenfold.

Best $100 I've ever spent on entertainment, bar none (to say nothing of the educational value of all the documentaries I've watched on it).
 
2010-05-04 11:05:49 AM  
NikolaiFarkoff: Call me old fashioned, but there's still something nice about the anticipation and payoff of watching a new episode when it's first broadcast. I think that's the last thing the networks have left. Same thing with movie theatres. Once you no longer care about the novelty of the episodes, it's all downhill for them.

Buying episodes on the AppleTV means we get them the day after they're broadcast. It also means we can try episodes of new series before we buy a whole season.

\Seasons cost between $20 and $30
 
2010-05-04 11:27:19 AM  
I've always said that I think we are 15-20 years away from a steep change in TV, away from "American Idol on Fox Tonight at 9pm"... to everything being "On Demand" and just "released" at a certain time. Certainly, Live Events are going to be released at a specific time, the time they are happening. Taped shows, it will be a "release date", just like a movie.

The problem is, there is still an "ease" to just turning on the TV and hitting "04" and watching the show that "On Demand" or DVRs or anything else like that doesn't have. You scoff maybe if you are fine with it, but, it is kind of like the concept that on the web, you lose 50% of your audience with every click. The more people have to do to get to your product, fewer people will get to it.

So, I do think we are going to get to that point, but, to get there, I think it has to be like talking to your TV and saying "I want to watch Dexter", and then maybe it asks you which episode, or it knows from who you are what the last episode you watched, but, in general, it would be a much more "personal" experience than right now, going through multiple menus to get to a specific program.
 
2010-05-04 11:37:09 AM  

dletter: So, I do think we are going to get to that point, but, to get there, I think it has to be like talking to your TV and saying "I want to watch Dexter", and then maybe it asks you which episode


That's the beauty of the Roku+Netflix combo.

Your exact example (Dexter) can be on my TV 10 seconds after I sit down. The streaming device is always on, and the load time is mostly a function of my bandwidth at any moment in time. 30 seconds at most...and unlike OnDemand, it's very quick to scroll through the menus, and there's no additional cost. Consume all you want!

Sure, PS3, Wii, and BluRay players also do it, but it's that incremental additional hassle that adds a small layer to the seamlessness, if you want to call it that. Still, if you already have one of those units, that's a fantastic added bonus.
 
2010-05-04 11:49:57 AM  
I like to loosen the onion on my belt enough so I can get my hand in my waist band. Only then can I enjoy one of five channels on my black & white, battery- operated, 7" screen, 20 lb portable tv at a sonically painful volume level.
/adjusts rabbit ears
 
2010-05-04 11:51:26 AM  
NikolaiFarkoff: That's the beauty of the Roku+Netflix combo.

Your exact example (Dexter) can be on my TV 10 seconds after I sit down. The streaming device is always on, and the load time is mostly a function of my bandwidth at any moment in time. 30 seconds at most...and unlike OnDemand, it's very quick to scroll through the menus, and there's no additional cost. Consume all you want!


We like the Roku, but we also don't want to wait until a season's been released on DVD to be able to watch it.
 
2010-05-04 12:49:15 PM  
There's little difference between sports and reality shows like American Idol or DWTS. People are always going to prefer watching competition live.
 
2010-05-04 01:08:32 PM  

Mugato: HeartBurnKid: You can watch TV together and still time-shift it so you can skip commercials, you know

Yes, I realize that, space man from the future. In fact I DVR a lot programs but the ones I really want to watch (which are down to about three), I do watch live. Not being able to ff through the commericals can be annoying but I'm usually doing other things anyway.


Eh, for me, even the ones I really want to watch, I wait to watch them until a little after they begin (about 10 minutes per half-hour), just so I can FF through the commercials. If you'd really rather watch the commercials, bully for you.
 
2010-05-04 01:12:02 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Mugato: HeartBurnKid: You can watch TV together and still time-shift it so you can skip commercials, you know

Yes, I realize that, space man from the future. In fact I DVR a lot programs but the ones I really want to watch (which are down to about three), I do watch live. Not being able to ff through the commericals can be annoying but I'm usually doing other things anyway.

Eh, for me, even the ones I really want to watch, I wait to watch them until a little after they begin (about 10 minutes per half-hour), just so I can FF through the commercials. If you'd really rather watch the commercials, bully for you.


This. I always let the show get at least 15 minutes in before I start watching, so I can rewind to the beginning and then fast forward thru the commercials.
 
2010-05-04 01:18:56 PM  
Well, that's because Comcast sucks.
 
2010-05-04 01:20:11 PM  
Hah, like I want to time shift.

...and end up like that guy in Primer
 
2010-05-04 01:20:11 PM  

MDGeist: Well, that's because Comcast sucks.


Hear hear! And their cable internet service is effing awful.
 
2010-05-04 01:22:52 PM  

Walker: HeartBurnKid: Mugato: HeartBurnKid: You can watch TV together and still time-shift it so you can skip commercials, you know

Yes, I realize that, space man from the future. In fact I DVR a lot programs but the ones I really want to watch (which are down to about three), I do watch live. Not being able to ff through the commericals can be annoying but I'm usually doing other things anyway.

Eh, for me, even the ones I really want to watch, I wait to watch them until a little after they begin (about 10 minutes per half-hour), just so I can FF through the commercials. If you'd really rather watch the commercials, bully for you.

This. I always let the show get at least 15 minutes in before I start watching, so I can rewind to the beginning and then fast forward thru the commercials.


Me too. And 15 min. seems to be the magic length of time to get thru all the commercials.
 
2010-05-04 01:23:55 PM  
I'm patiently waiting on the Boxee box but Roku and others look pretty good too. Doubt I'll dump cable completely right away though.
 
2010-05-04 01:24:18 PM  
Got to have something to watch while I work. That butter ain't gonna churn itself.
 
2010-05-04 01:24:53 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Eh, for me, even the ones I really want to watch, I wait to watch them until a little after they begin (about 10 minutes per half-hour), just so I can FF through the commercials. If you'd really rather watch the commercials, bully for you.


I know for football at least you can start watching the recording as soon as half-time starts IRL and you'll catch up about 5 minutes before the end of the game. The final drive ends up being live, so you get all the thrill without the commercials.

However: always record the show AFTER the game too!
 
2010-05-04 01:25:03 PM  
You guys are stupid! I don't even have a TV!
 
2010-05-04 01:27:26 PM  
I didn't know he had people.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Most)blog.rifftrax.com
 
2010-05-04 01:28:19 PM  

EvilEgg: No my buggy whip entertainment is after the TV watching. And it doesn't involve the kids.


This is what I was thinking.

/don't have kids
 
2010-05-04 01:28:43 PM  
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Now you're in trouble, subby.
 
2010-05-04 01:30:02 PM  

burber: I'm patiently waiting on the Boxee box but Roku and others look pretty good too.


i40.tinypic.com
 
2010-05-04 01:41:46 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Mugato: HeartBurnKid: You can watch TV together and still time-shift it so you can skip commercials, you know

Yes, I realize that, space man from the future. In fact I DVR a lot programs but the ones I really want to watch (which are down to about three), I do watch live. Not being able to ff through the commericals can be annoying but I'm usually doing other things anyway.


Eh, for me, even the ones I really want to watch, I wait to watch them until a little after they begin (about 10 minutes per half-hour), just so I can FF through the commercials. If you'd really rather watch the commercials, bully for you.


The ones I really want to watch I download 2 hours early and stream through my xbox without commercials.
 
2010-05-04 01:48:50 PM  
RodneyToady:

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean
 
2010-05-04 01:48:53 PM  
Too bad such wonderful toys aren't available to us here in the Great White North. Thanks Bell and Rogers!!
 
2010-05-04 01:50:15 PM  
Referring to things like Netflix streaming and Roku.

DVR is available.

As long as it doesn't screw up.....
 
2010-05-04 01:50:53 PM  
People still watch television?!?

How quaint!
 
2010-05-04 01:53:20 PM  
Having canceled cable and striving to watch less tv, I find myself turning to hulu for my few veiwing neccesities...

/house
//bones
///happy town seems cool
 
2010-05-04 01:56:25 PM  

urger: Hey, what's wrong with my sarsaparilla?


Sarsaparilla angries up the blood.
 
2010-05-04 01:58:49 PM  

burber: RodneyToady:

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean


I was playing off of "Boxee," since her name is "Boxxy"... but I'm suspecting it might be a bit too obscure. She was big on the internet about a year ago, for no particular reason.
 
2010-05-04 01:59:51 PM  

The Icelander: We're going to drop our satellite service and just buy shows off of iTunes and get a Roku box soon. It will save us almost $500 a year.

\Knows where to buy actual buggy whips
\\For use on actual buggies


The Roku is fan-farking-tastic.
 
2010-05-04 02:01:14 PM  
TV is not important enough for me to spend money on it. I did have to buy a digital converter box, though.
 
2010-05-04 02:07:46 PM  

The Icelander: We're going to drop our satellite service and just buy shows off of iTunes and get a Roku box soon. It will save us almost $500 a year.


With the Roku I can canceled cable almost 2 years ago. I watch my Netflix all the time. The only thing I miss is:

a) News - Damn it. I have this zombie nightmare on a regular basis and the best way to get over it is to wake up and watch news. Make sure all is right with the world. I fall back to sleep easily. Currently I wake up, go downstairs and check the news/Fark.
b) PBS - I miss PBS as a station. I need to set up an antenna but I'm lazy.

Overall, I can live without cable. I am very happy. I have my Roku in the bedroom (where my wife and I watch TV) and a Wii in the living room with the Netflix disk.
I am hoping that the Roku can negotiate with some of the always streaming news stations like Al Jazeera and that French station to get streaming news. I watch those two online and they are pretty good. It would be great on my Roku.
Also, you don't need iTunes. The Amazon pay service is on the Roku. It works well. We watched some of the free stuff.
And I also like the other stations the Roku as. They're not great, but decent. I watch the Revision 3 network on a regular basis. That said, my queue is so full of stuff that I have TV for another 3 months or so before I watch everything. By that time there will probably be more.

Enjoy your Roku and screw cable.
 
2010-05-04 02:08:28 PM  
I don't have cable/satellite or DVR. I watch one TV show - 24. I do this in real time OTA with a digital tuner. When the series ends I won't even need the tuner, which I bought to watch 24. I do have an ass-load of audio/video/computer equipment. I just don't watch TV shows with it.
 
2010-05-04 02:12:32 PM  
Jeez Subby. I guess you're one of those douchebags with a soul patch and a bowler cap that laughs at people who are normal because you're more awesome than them.fark YOU, HIPSTER!!
 
2010-05-04 02:24:21 PM  

MadSkillz: Jeez Subby. I guess you're one of those douchebags with a soul patch and a bowler cap that laughs at people who are normal because you're more awesome than them.fark YOU, HIPSTER


yes, i'm a massive hipster. i'm going to ride my fixie to the bar for a PBR
/subby
 
2010-05-04 02:28:48 PM  
Dangl1ng: Overall, I can live without cable. I am very happy. I have my Roku in the bedroom (where my wife and I watch TV) and a Wii in the living room with the Netflix disk.

The Netflix app for the iPad means we'll be able to bring a "TV" with us just about anywhere. Including the backyard.
 
kab
2010-05-04 03:02:39 PM  

The Icelander: Dangl1ng: Overall, I can live without cable. I am very happy. I have my Roku in the bedroom (where my wife and I watch TV) and a Wii in the living room with the Netflix disk.

The Netflix app for the iPad means we'll be able to bring a "TV" with us just about anywhere experience shows on a horribly small screen.


/yeah, Luddite here I suppose.
 
kab
2010-05-04 03:04:32 PM  
As far as TV watching goes... Things like hockey games, I'll tape and just watch later so I can >>> through the nonsense. If it's a 30 min show though, I generally won't bother taping it.

/time warner is farking terrible.
 
2010-05-04 03:09:06 PM  
It's more fun to watch it as its happening and spoil the plot resolution for anyone online who accidentally looks at it.

Oh and, I don't watch enough TV to justify paying for the DVR or whatever. So I'll bear with getting up to take a piss and get a drink like I have the previous 25 years.
 
2010-05-04 03:12:41 PM  
kab: experience shows on a horribly small screen.

/yeah, Luddite here I suppose.


The iPad's 9.7" screen held 2 feet away from your face is the same apparent size as a 77" screen sitting 16 feet from your face.
 
2010-05-04 03:16:36 PM  
Our family has a TV set and cable decoder in each occupied bedroom as well as one in the living room. Shows that everyone likes to watch, we will watch live in the living room. Shows that are individual choices are generally watched in the bedrooms, either time shifted on the DVR or live if convenient. Movies are also watched on the large screen in the living room and Wii games are played there. For Xbox 360 gaming, that is on the big screen in the garage. The garage also serves as the room musical instruments are practiced in, with lessons streamed from the home server to the PC attached to the big screen TV.
 
2010-05-04 03:18:51 PM  
Half of the internet is talking about TV shows at any given moment.
 
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