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(Enid News)   Air Force pilot trainees having lasers pointed at their cockpits on final approach. Is it being done by terrorists, or normal American douchebags made stupid on NattyLight?   (enidnews.com) divider line 89
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2010-05-03 10:56:43 AM  
Probably sharks.
 
2010-05-03 11:21:27 AM  
Air Force trainees should be able to practice their air to surface attack training under such circumstances.
 
2010-05-03 11:25:25 AM  
Why do we even have pilots in planes anymore?
 
2010-05-03 11:30:48 AM  
"Sorry about that, I just wanted to see how high my cat could jump."
 
2010-05-03 11:30:48 AM  
I_Am_Weasel: Probably sharks.

Thread is frickin' over.
 
2010-05-03 11:32:33 AM  
IgG4: Why do we even have pilots in planes anymore?

Because when you bomb the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, you have to be able to blame pilot error.
 
2010-05-03 11:32:52 AM  
FTFA: During a recent night flying week, the difficult and dangerous business of learning to fly at night was made even more difficult and dangerous when three Vance aircraft were the targets of a concentrated beam of green laser light, either from a laser pointer or a laser rifle scope.

That sentence/paragraph makes my head hurt. Is the Enid News a high school paper?
 
2010-05-03 11:33:33 AM  
Accompanying pic of what a laser may look like...
enidnews.com

/too funny
 
2010-05-03 11:33:38 AM  
Vance officials don't think their planes were targeted by someone with a hand-held laser pointer designed for use by lecturers, but rather by a rifle-mounted laser scope.

"I have a fairly steady hand," Weibel said. "I don't think I could take an inexpensive laser and pin it on a plane a mile or two away from me. We think it would take a fairly high quality laser to get a plane."


Because high quality lasers go straighter?
I know what you're trying to say, Weibel, but perhaps "it would take a laser mounted on something larger and steadier, like a rifle or your mom, to hit a plane."
 
2010-05-03 11:34:30 AM  
They can have my laser pointer when they pry it from my charred hands after a plane crashes into me.
 
2010-05-03 11:35:38 AM  
There is one VERY easy way to stop this.

It's called a laser guided bomb.
 
2010-05-03 11:35:43 AM  
I gotta wonder, without laws and news articles saying how frickin' awful it is to point lasers at aircraft...would it even have occured to folks as a means of recreation?

Insert that old Bloom County strip about snorting dandelions - fer crying out loud, don't do it!
 
2010-05-03 11:35:51 AM  
In before asshats who don't understand what laser light does with a worn plexiglas window at night.
 
2010-05-03 11:36:43 AM  
TsukasaK: In before asshats who don't understand what laser light does with a worn plexiglas window at night.

Huh, could it be:
A laser striking an aircraft's cockpit is refracted and diffused by the canopy and by tiny particles of dust in the air. The light temporarily robs the pilot of his night vision and has the potential to cause eye damage.

"It is a major distraction when it hits a windshield, or it hits a canopy and hits something reflective and it starts bouncing around, it is very disorienting to have to deal with," Weibel said. "It's kind of like being in a European disco, with lights going every which way and you don't know what's going on."
 
2010-05-03 11:36:52 AM  
Are cockpit windows not polarized? Would that help, possibly? Not a pilot so I don't know if there would be a downside to that, but I seems like that might stop a lot of the light getting through if it could only enter from straight ahead.

/$.02
 
2010-05-03 11:36:58 AM  
TsukasaK: In before asshats who don't understand what laser light does with a worn plexiglas window at night.

Caresses it slowly before making sweet laser love to it?
 
2010-05-03 11:37:52 AM  
Theaetetus: Vance officials don't think their planes were targeted by someone with a hand-held laser pointer designed for use by lecturers, but rather by a rifle-mounted laser scope.

"I have a fairly steady hand," Weibel said. "I don't think I could take an inexpensive laser and pin it on a plane a mile or two away from me. We think it would take a fairly high quality laser to get a plane."

Because high quality lasers go straighter?
I know what you're trying to say, Weibel, but perhaps "it would take a laser mounted on something larger and steadier, like a rifle or your mom, to hit a plane."


Well actually, A high quality Laser WILL have a higher beam quality that will go further without being dispersed. Weapons grade laser platforms even have adaptive mirrors to increase their range by compensating for atmospheric distortion.
 
2010-05-03 11:38:24 AM  
Its laser liberals, obviously.
 
2010-05-03 11:38:27 AM  
I wasn't thinking of canopies. Scratch that... Still, for cargo, bombers, etc.
 
2010-05-03 11:38:32 AM  
nosferatublue: I gotta wonder, without laws and news articles saying how frickin' awful it is to point lasers at aircraft...would it even have occured to folks as a means of recreation?

Insert that old Bloom County strip about snorting dandelions - fer crying out loud, don't do it!


Wait... you can get high from inhaling cat urine? No way!

/votes decisively for "douchebags"
//twice in Chicago
 
2010-05-03 11:39:54 AM  
Maynard G. Muskievote: TsukasaK: In before asshats who don't understand what laser light does with a worn plexiglas window at night.

Caresses it slowly before making sweet laser love to it?


It should at least buy it dinner first...
 
2010-05-03 11:41:00 AM  
Needs sunglasses.
www.maximumeyewear.com
 
2010-05-03 11:41:16 AM  
I expected these shenanigans to be ongoing at Shepard AFB, Witchita Falls TX.

There is, quite literally, nothing better to do in Witchita Falls, TX.

Except maybe keep an eye out for twisters, or look behind every tree for a woman.
 
2010-05-03 11:43:42 AM  
Anyone who points lasers at a plane deserves to die. I have a green laser that I use for pointing items out in the sky for scouts. It is NEVER used when we hear or see a plane in the sky. As a former pilot, anything done to cause in interferance is a major beat down.
 
2010-05-03 11:44:04 AM  
The interesting part, given the tone of that article, is that the person doing so may not have realized what was going on. I'm hoping that it was some moron who thought watching the planes land would be cool, but couldn't get close enough to see them - so he dug out his rifle and used the sight as a redneck telescope.
 
2010-05-03 11:45:37 AM  
why in the fark would someone EVER think it's a good idea to shine a laser light into a cockpit?
 
2010-05-03 11:45:45 AM  
loser0: I_Am_Weasel: Probably sharks.

Thread is frickin' over.


Not until you are mocked for your stupidity. You're stupid. Now it's over.
 
2010-05-03 11:45:59 AM  
Give pilots the right to shoot a few hundred rounds at any laser pointed at them.
 
2010-05-03 11:47:06 AM  
If a solo pilot was temporarily blinded by a laser, he or she might have no option other than to eject. Military pilots are trained to do their best to point their aircraft away from populated areas if they are forced to eject, but might not have the chance if they find themselves literally flying blind.

"We want the city of Enid to be aware of the safety concerns that it poses for not only our pilots but for the folks downtown.


Maybe he didn't mean it to sound like a threat, but it sure sounds like it.
 
2010-05-03 11:47:21 AM  
How are people even able to do this? It seems like you would not only have to be able to keep a laser pointer focused on the cockpit of a moving aircraft, but also be level with or above said aircraft in order to do so?

rcain: Air Force trainees should be able to practice their air to surface attack training under such circumstances.

And this. Yet another $100,000,000 piece of military hardware rendered useless by a $3 device. Shh. No one tell the "bad guys" about this, and make sure they don't put potential Stealth bomber targets in areas where it rains.
 
2010-05-03 11:47:24 AM  
So a $2 laser pointer can take out an airplane which cost millions?
 
2010-05-03 11:47:40 AM  
Theaetetus: I know what you're trying to say, Weibel, but perhaps "it would take a laser mounted on something larger and steadier, like a rifle or your mom, to hit a plane."

I'm pretty sure your mom never went steady with anyting or anyone.
 
2010-05-03 11:47:54 AM  
Nah, subby has it right. Natty and Keystone is all we can afford up here. farking morons...

/God I hate living in Oklahoma
 
2010-05-03 11:48:23 AM  
Person: If a solo pilot was temporarily blinded by a laser, he or she might have no option other than to eject. Military pilots are trained to do their best to point their aircraft away from populated areas if they are forced to eject, but might not have the chance if they find themselves literally flying blind.

"We want the city of Enid to be aware of the safety concerns that it poses for not only our pilots but for the folks downtown.

Maybe he didn't mean it to sound like a threat, but it sure sounds like it.


people don't need to be pointing those things at planes
 
2010-05-03 11:48:35 AM  
*anything*, dammit.

/and I previewed...
 
2010-05-03 11:49:50 AM  
fluffy2097: Well actually, A high quality Laser WILL have a higher beam quality that will go further without being dispersed.

A higher power laser will go farther due to the fact that the higher power can be further attenuated by Rayleigh and Mie scattering before dropping below visible threshold. But that's not "quality", which, for a laser, would be the degree of collimation. And there's not going to be much difference there between a laser scope on a rifle and a handheld green laser pointer, particularly with the range we're talking about.

Weapons grade laser platforms even have adaptive mirrors to increase their range by compensating for atmospheric distortion

That's to help the effective range by pre-defocusing the beam so that the atmospheric distortions result in the beam being in proper focus where it reaches the target. That doesn't "increase the range" of the beam itself, though... It just sets a focus distance.
 
2010-05-03 11:50:30 AM  
www.cogitoergoimbibo.com

Priceless
\and hot
 
2010-05-03 11:53:30 AM  
Mr. Vader is an idiot.
 
2010-05-03 11:54:47 AM  
Theaetetus:
That's to help the effective range by pre-defocusing the beam so that the atmospheric distortions result in the beam being in proper focus where it reaches the target. That doesn't "increase the range" of the beam itself, though... It just sets a focus distance.


So you mean it doesn't make it an effective weapon at longer ranges? Because working at longer effective ranges is what I'd call increasing the range.

enjoy picking nits much?
 
2010-05-03 11:57:40 AM  
Mr. Vader is a pretty good troll
 
2010-05-03 12:01:36 PM  
Theaetetus: Vance officials don't think their planes were targeted by someone with a hand-held laser pointer designed for use by lecturers, but rather by a rifle-mounted laser scope.

"I have a fairly steady hand," Weibel said. "I don't think I could take an inexpensive laser and pin it on a plane a mile or two away from me. We think it would take a fairly high quality laser to get a plane."

Because high quality lasers go straighter?
I know what you're trying to say, Weibel, but perhaps "it would take a laser mounted on something larger and steadier, like a rifle or your mom, to hit a plane."


Link (new window)
 
2010-05-03 12:03:52 PM  
fluffy2097: So you mean it doesn't make it an effective weapon at longer ranges? Because working at longer effective ranges is what I'd call increasing the range.

Huh, 'cause that's not what I'd call it. See, the beam has a range, dependent on its power and collimation. The focus sets a point within that range that it's effective:
==*---------------------[focal point]-------------->[beam continuing]
The focus has nothing to do with "making it effective at longer ranges", it has to do with "making it effective at specific ranges".

And before you call me out for nitpicking, don't forget that you started it with your "a high quality Laser WILL have a higher beam quality that will go further without being dispersed," which is simply false.
 
2010-05-03 12:09:10 PM  
netweavr: Theaetetus: Vance officials don't think their planes were targeted by someone with a hand-held laser pointer designed for use by lecturers, but rather by a rifle-mounted laser scope.

"I have a fairly steady hand," Weibel said. "I don't think I could take an inexpensive laser and pin it on a plane a mile or two away from me. We think it would take a fairly high quality laser to get a plane."

Because high quality lasers go straighter?
I know what you're trying to say, Weibel, but perhaps "it would take a laser mounted on something larger and steadier, like a rifle or your mom, to hit a plane."

Link (new window)


Coherence isn't an issue - that's primarily dependent on the medium, which is why the length is short for the helium-neon lasers, longer for semiconductor lasers, and much longer for fiber optic lasers.
 
2010-05-03 12:09:28 PM  
Who are these farktards who like trying to blind pilots with laser pointers, and what is so amusing to them about it? Honestly, I'm totally cool with the death penalty for these cases. Our gene pool could use a little extra filtering, IMHO.
 
2010-05-03 12:09:39 PM  
EmployeeOfTheMinute: Mr. Vader is a pretty good troll

came here for this. those guys need some Fark 101
 
2010-05-03 12:11:04 PM  
For The Serious Aircraft Enthusiast

Bored using your advanced green laser for traditional spreadsheet pointing techniques? Why not kick up your skills a notch and start using green lasers to track aircraft? With beams visible in daylight that extend for miles, green lasers are ideally suited to track objects in the sky. Stop worrying about things like mandatory jail time and social isolation and play the intriguing game of SkyTag™ today.

i43.tinypic.com
 
2010-05-03 12:12:32 PM  
kevljo: I expected these shenanigans to be ongoing at Shepard AFB, Witchita Falls TX.

There is, quite literally, nothing better to do in Witchita Falls, TX.

Except maybe keep an eye out for twisters, or look behind every tree for a woman.


One thing to do there is learn how to spell the Wichita Falls correctly.
 
2010-05-03 12:12:49 PM  
Theaetetus: netweavr: Theaetetus: Vance officials don't think their planes were targeted by someone with a hand-held laser pointer designed for use by lecturers, but rather by a rifle-mounted laser scope.

"I have a fairly steady hand," Weibel said. "I don't think I could take an inexpensive laser and pin it on a plane a mile or two away from me. We think it would take a fairly high quality laser to get a plane."

Because high quality lasers go straighter?
I know what you're trying to say, Weibel, but perhaps "it would take a laser mounted on something larger and steadier, like a rifle or your mom, to hit a plane."

Link (new window)

Coherence isn't an issue - that's primarily dependent on the medium, which is why the length is short for the helium-neon lasers, longer for semiconductor lasers, and much longer for fiber optic lasers.


Incidentally, I should add that spatial coherence is what the adaptive mirror fluffy mentioned fixes, at a specified distance from the mirror.
 
2010-05-03 12:15:12 PM  
No Catchy Nickname: I'm pretty sure your mom never went steady with anyting or anyone.

That's why you gotta hold 'er by the ears.
 
SH
2010-05-03 12:15:25 PM  
TsukasaK: In before asshats who don't understand what laser light does with a worn plexiglas window at night.

So I qualify as an asshat because I could care less about aviation? So be it.
 
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