If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The New York Times)   Prefer the good old-fashioned Mexican sodas made with cane sugar instead of the gross HFCS-laden American soda? Yeah...about that   (nytimes.com) divider line 405
    More: Dumbass  
•       •       •

46914 clicks; posted to Main » on 03 May 2010 at 12:48 AM (4 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



405 Comments   (+0 »)
   

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | » | Last | Show all
 
2010-05-03 12:52:31 AM
Con_Authority: If cane sugar and HFCS are chemically the same then tell me why cane sugar syrup has a straw color in a white bucket and HFCS is bright blue?

silencedmajority.blogs.com

What the color "bright blue" might look like.
 
2010-05-03 12:55:55 AM
Relatively Obscure: Con_Authority: If cane sugar and HFCS are chemically the same then tell me why cane sugar syrup has a straw color in a white bucket and HFCS is bright blue?



What the color "bright blue" might look like.


I'll take the cane sugar. Thank you very much. BLecccch COME ON BRIGHT BLUE! PEOPLE! THE STUFF IN YOUR FOOD IS BRIGHT BLUE!
 
2010-05-03 12:57:24 AM
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Spike our blood sugar levels and convert it to fat?

Exactly.
 
2010-05-03 12:57:51 AM
It's not that corn syrup is better or worse than cane sugar/sugar beets.

It's that most people eat WAY too much of any sweetener.

Feed your kids fruit, they'll think it's the best unless you also give them candy.
 
2010-05-03 12:59:16 AM
optikeye: HFCS has it's place. In cooking with Kyro Syrup. Popcorn balls, Some cobblers, pecan pie..etc.

But it was only in the 80's when it found it's way into almost everything from Ketchup, Sodas, and Tomato sauces.

I'm sure it does preform well in taste tastes..but then crack would make you want more in 10 mins or so.



Karo Syrup is most definitely not HFCS.
 
2010-05-03 12:59:31 AM
www.costsaving2u.com

Whatever.
/hot like the 20 lbs. I dropped after I stopped drinking soda altogether and switched to plain tea.
 
2010-05-03 01:00:36 AM
Ghrelin and leptin, biatches. Google them.
 
2010-05-03 01:00:42 AM
Con_Authority: As a beekeeper I sometimes have to feed new colonies to build them up for the long winter months. Once the honey flow stops there isn't enough food for them to continue to grow late in the season.

I stated feeding them cane sugar syrup then I saw the less expensive HFCS. I bought a few shipments of HFCS but stopped using it.

If cane sugar and HFCS are chemically the same then tell me why cane sugar syrup has a straw color in a white bucket and HFCS is bright blue?


I have a baggie of HFCS in my freeze (makes a great cold compress), and it's straw color, not bright blue.
 
2010-05-03 01:01:48 AM
fwiw, I also think they should require that corn syrup be manufactured with caustic soda that is certified to not have been made in a mercury cell process.

I mean, I think wild-caught salmon probably has more mercury in it per pound than corn syrup made with caustic soda that was manufactured in a mercury cell process - but some sources of dietary mercury can be easily legislated away, and i figure it's a good idea to do so. Most caustic soda already isn't made in mercury - passing a law that says you can't use the stuff that has an infinitesimal amount of mercury in it if you're making food would be a tiny blip in their economy while buyers and sellers figure out who needs which product. It just makes sense.
 
2010-05-03 01:02:39 AM
impaler: Dingfod: I don't care if there is no difference, there is a difference I can taste. Coke with HFCS tastes fruity in comparison to cane or beet sugar. If I wanted fruity soda pop, I'd drink Mountain Dew.

Funny you say that. I prefer HFCS Mountain Dew over 'throwback' Mountain Dew, and cane sugar coke over HFCS coke.


The difference between regular and throwback Dew and Pepsi isn't just the sweetener. The flavorings are different too. The throwbacks are much lighter, drier drinks than the current regular recipe. If you don't recall when more sodas were like this, you probably won't enjoy the throwbacks. Personally I find regular Dew far too sticky/heavy for my taste and prefer the throwback.
 
2010-05-03 01:03:57 AM
Mtn Dew Distortion still tastes way better than Mountain Dew Throwback!!! Who can resist a refreshing blast of lime mixed with HFCS??? Nobody, thats who!!!
 
2010-05-03 01:04:05 AM
Abita Root Beer made with cane sugar. One of the best things ever made by man.

It's like this:

1. Land on Moon.
2. Abita Root Beer.
3. Berlin Wall. or whatever.
 
2010-05-03 01:04:50 AM
THE REAL TRAVESTY IS...

that the NY Times gives some lard ass librarian's opinion the same weight as that of a professor of biochemistry.

Science is truly dying in America

/reason is going with it
//I has a sad
 
2010-05-03 01:05:06 AM
Why would you want to make something that's bad for you taste better? A decline in quality sounds like a good reason to just consume less.
 
2010-05-03 01:05:18 AM
It's not the ingredient I detest. It's the taste. When strawberry jelly tastes more like corn syrup than strawberries, that's where I draw the line.
 
2010-05-03 01:06:04 AM
LOL at anyone who thinks "natural" sugar is not bad for you in most of the same ways that HFCS is. Okay so it's not AS bad, but it's still pretty bad. The new American trend will be to get fatter than ever before by thinking "natural" sugar is good for you just like when people thought that anything that was "Fat Free" cannot make you fat.
 
2010-05-03 01:06:14 AM
When I really crave Coca Cola (I liked it better than Pepsi in the Pepsi Challenge and never went back!) I go to the corner Mexi-mart and pay too much for the imported stuff, but at least it gets sold by the liter. Yes, I really can taste a difference, but then again I'm a bit of a foodie, and have been known to be able to taste and smell things that no one else in my family can. I love shallots but hate onions; even though they are basically the same, the taste is radically different to me. HFCS doesn't taste bad so much as it tastes different. I like to taste the Coke that reminds me of the better parts of my youth.

img243.imageshack.us

Om nom nom?
 
2010-05-03 01:06:50 AM
Sodium Benzoate: It's not that corn syrup is better or worse than cane sugar/sugar beets.

It's that most people eat WAY too much of any sweetener.


And HFCS is in EVERYTHING! Go to your fridge and look at your mayonnaise, bbq sauce, many bread products, snacks, ketchup, pasta sauce, etc. In many cases, HFCS is one of the top 5 ingredients, if not 2nd or 1st.

Manufactured food is the problem, not necessarily the amount of HFCS you eat.
 
2010-05-03 01:07:09 AM
Sille: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

I think I'll trust this scholarly looking bit.


Isn't it a little weird that it comes from a psychology professor?
 
2010-05-03 01:07:42 AM
I have Coke with sucrose (passover), Coke with cane sugar (mexican), and Coke with HFCS (regular). I can taste the difference.

IMO the sucrose stuff is the best. I would buy nothing else except I can only get it for about 2 weeks per year, it only keeps for about 6 months and it only comes in 2-liter bottles which only last about 18 hours after opening. Outside of those limits I drink the sucrose stuff.

I sometimes buy the HFCS stuff because I want something cheap and crappy to give to guests and occasionally I want a Coke Slurpee.

I believe that the health effects are essentially the same but the taste and especially the after-taste has a huge difference.
 
2010-05-03 01:08:05 AM
I heard that Glen Beck swims around in the vats of corn syrup late at night.
If you want quality try beet soda as it is naturally sweet.

Having a real good year for beets!
 
2010-05-03 01:09:08 AM
ipeeintheshower: Okay so it's not AS bad, but it's still pretty bad. The new American trend will be to get fatter than ever before by thinking "natural" sugar is good for you just like when people thought that anything that was "Fat Free" cannot make you fat.

img682.imageshack.us
 
2010-05-03 01:09:24 AM
Reliably, there is a taste difference. Corn syrup may not be more or less healthy, but it's an economic clusterfark.
 
2010-05-03 01:10:52 AM
I've noticed I consume "more" of a product when it contains HFCS, as opposed to sugar. It was easier to consume larger quantities of HFCS-based products in a shorter sitting, as well.

Anecdotal, yes, but I believe it's worth further investigation. Sometimes it's not always about the caloric density of a food.
 
2010-05-03 01:10:52 AM
Asa Phelps: Sille: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

I think I'll trust this scholarly looking bit.

Isn't it a little weird that it comes from a psychology professor?


Properly conducted research stands on its own merits despite the degree of someone involved in it. I also believe that Princeton has a pretty good name for itself and that helps too. If you read the article it explains the actual chemical differences much more thoroughly than the New York Times. I'm inclined to believe this article more.
 
2010-05-03 01:10:57 AM
Sodium Benzoate: It's not that corn syrup is better or worse than cane sugar/sugar beets.

It's that most people eat WAY too much of any sweetener.

Feed your kids fruit, they'll think it's the best unless you also give them candy.


After a few months eating mostly fruit for sweets, any candy now tastes insanely sweet to me. Cloyingly, artificially, horribly sweet. I used to be able to drink a 20 oz. coke in a few swallows. Now it takes me hours to finish one, if not days.

I think my sweet tooth is broken.
 
2010-05-03 01:11:04 AM
Dingfod: I don't care if there is no difference, there is a difference I can taste.

At the risk of just saying "This," Um...

This!
 
2010-05-03 01:11:24 AM
www.foodfollies.com

mmm mm good.
 
2010-05-03 01:11:26 AM
FTA ...manufacturers are replacing the sugar in Mexican soda and other beverages with the less-expensive high-fructose corn syrup. In Mexico this year, consumption of the sweetener is expected to be up by a whopping 50 percent...

So, does this mean we're going to start seeing fat Mexicans?
 
2010-05-03 01:12:05 AM
I blame Obama.
 
2010-05-03 01:12:48 AM
Sun God: Sodium Benzoate: It's not that corn syrup is better or worse than cane sugar/sugar beets.

It's that most people eat WAY too much of any sweetener.

And HFCS is in EVERYTHING! Go to your fridge and look at your mayonnaise, bbq sauce, many bread products, snacks, ketchup, pasta sauce, etc. In many cases, HFCS is one of the top 5 ingredients, if not 2nd or 1st.

Manufactured food is the problem, not necessarily the amount of HFCS you eat.


HFCS is in so many products because the gov't subsidizes corn farmers.
 
2010-05-03 01:12:49 AM
make me some tea: Fark Coca-Cola and the others, this stuff is way better.



/I don't even drink soda


Do you also not even own a TV?
 
2010-05-03 01:13:17 AM
Dumbass is for the submitter. Glucose and fructose the same? Are you F*CKING KIDDING ME?

The HFCS industry was created by government subsidization of corn. Time to CUT THAT shiat OFF.
 
2010-05-03 01:13:18 AM
impaler: Dingfod: I don't care if there is no difference, there is a difference I can taste. Coke with HFCS tastes fruity in comparison to cane or beet sugar. If I wanted fruity soda pop, I'd drink Mountain Dew.

Funny you say that. I prefer HFCS Mountain Dew over 'throwback' Mountain Dew, and cane sugar coke over HFCS coke.


Same here.

Throwback Dew is just... wrong.

But, Throwback Pepsi, Heritage Dr. Pepper, Mexican Coke, RC and Sun Drop in glass bottles... all much better than their HFCS counterparts.
 
2010-05-03 01:13:47 AM
www.blogadilla.com
 
2010-05-03 01:14:02 AM
thespindrifter: ipeeintheshower: Okay so it's not AS bad, but it's still pretty bad. The new American trend will be to get fatter than ever before by thinking "natural" sugar is good for you just like when people thought that anything that was "Fat Free" cannot make you fat.


I hope that was posted for its value in humor.
 
2010-05-03 01:14:08 AM
FTA: "High-fructose corn syrup is singled out because it is still one of the biggest sources of calories in our diet and because it is made from corn - a lavishly subsidized crop that appears, in one way or another, in so much of our food."

Thar's your problem...
 
2010-05-03 01:14:31 AM
The only pop I regularly drink is Dr Pepper. And to me, Dr Pepper with cane sugar tastes flatter than Dr Pepper with HFCS. Keep the HFCS for my Dr Pepper, and the crappier pops like Pepsi and Mtn Dew can use all the cane sugar you desire.

/does Coca-Cola with cane sugar taste less like cat piss?
 
2010-05-03 01:14:47 AM
thespindrifter: [picture of an ad claiming that sugar can make you skinny]


You know, there is a crazy diet where, for breakfast, you drink a tall glass of room-temperature water with a couple tablespoons of sugar in it, which is gross, and puts you off food for about 8 hours.
 
2010-05-03 01:15:33 AM
We love the Throwback sodas here at the Crow's Nest, and when we see Throwback in the aisles at the supermarket we buy 3-4 cases at a time because it's going to be gone very quickly.

Tastes better and not as bad for you (but again, still should be enjoyed in moderation) soda is win.

If we can clear that shiat out of more products, all the better.
 
2010-05-03 01:15:33 AM
This is to distract you from the real poison that is in many sodas. That is sodium benzoate (new window).
 
2010-05-03 01:15:39 AM
House of Tards: Dingfod: I don't care if there is no difference, there is a difference I can taste. Coke with HFCS tastes fruity in comparison to cane or beet sugar. If I wanted fruity soda pop, I'd drink Mountain Dew.

There is a distinct taste difference. Drinks made with sugar are less syrupy sweet.


There's also a chemical bond difference.

There's a huge difference between a mixture of sucrose and glucose and a chemical with those two bonded together.

Ya'll fail ninth grade chemistry? Seems the journalist that ate up the HFCS manufactures of America did.
 
2010-05-03 01:15:50 AM
Desmo: FTA ...manufacturers are replacing the sugar in Mexican soda and other beverages with the less-expensive high-fructose corn syrup. In Mexico this year, consumption of the sweetener is expected to be up by a whopping 50 percent...

So, does this mean we're going to start seeing fat Mexicans?


Start?
 
2010-05-03 01:15:52 AM
The perils of HFCS first became clear to me about 8 years ago when I still drank Ocean Spray Cran-Raspberry. I noticed that after drinking a glass, laden with HFCS, I'd get hungry about 90 minutes later. I did several "experiments" on myself; the effect was consistent. Made me start eyeing the stuff, and I noticed it was in practically everything. Have made an attempt to remove it from my diet completely, but I still give in to a Coke every now and then.

Caffeine is probably even worse in its ability to stimulate appetite, though.
 
2010-05-03 01:16:00 AM
yuzuriha.seesaa.net



You guys know you want it back...
 
2010-05-03 01:16:06 AM
If they didn't sneak HFCS into every gall darned thing, it wouldn't be so bad. Its in salad dressings, crackers, fruit spreads, and quite a few processed food products more people are eating now out of "convenience".

That said, I prefer sugar sweetened sodas to the HFCS sodas. The HFCS leaves a cloyingly clingy sweet taste to your mouth, its never really satisfying. So you drink more to clear the "gunk" out of your mouth. Its the sweet version of MSG.

However, I've cut sodas out of my diet completely, except as the occasional once a month indulgence. And its amazing, I lose weight. But yet I still drink quite a bit of sugar in my sweet tea, which is what I used to replace the soda. Go figure.

Y'all need to watch Food Inc and King Corn...its disturbing what we willingly eat.
 
2010-05-03 01:16:34 AM
R.A.Danny: Dingfod: there is a difference I can taste.

This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this.


That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, and that.
 
2010-05-03 01:16:36 AM
"Pepsi Vs. Coke experiment and you couldn't tell the difference because they were both warm and flat."

Yes I can -- Pepsi leaves that hideous squeaky film on all my teeth.

/ drinks only water and soyjism these days
 
2010-05-03 01:16:49 AM
make me some tea: optikeye: HFCS has it's place. In cooking with Kyro Syrup. Popcorn balls, Some cobblers, pecan pie..etc.

But it was only in the 80's when it found it's way into almost everything from Ketchup, Sodas, and Tomato sauces.

I'm sure it does preform well in taste tastes..but then crack would make you want more in 10 mins or so.

Oh sure, it has its own properties which are conducive to certain ways of preparing food, but yeah, the fact that it's in just about everything these days is rather appalling.


It's in some brands of soy sauce now! WTF!?

I understand that corn syrup is just an ingredient in some foods (mmm... popcorn balls), but it doesn't need to be in my soy sauce. I actually buy soy sauce without any sugar in it at all now.

/glad there are now more options to avoid HFCS
//and hey, more juice with no sugar at all!
 
2010-05-03 01:17:03 AM
Hey Lifeless, ever been to Chicken Express in College Station, TX? They have Dublin Dr Pepper on tap.

We'll stop having corn products and corn subsidies when the Iowa caucuses stop being the first in the primary elections.
 
Displayed 50 of 405 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | » | Last | Show all



This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report