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(The New York Times)   Prefer the good old-fashioned Mexican sodas made with cane sugar instead of the gross HFCS-laden American soda? Yeah...about that   (nytimes.com) divider line 405
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2010-05-02 10:51:30 PM  
I don't care if there is no difference, there is a difference I can taste. Coke with HFCS tastes fruity in comparison to cane or beet sugar. If I wanted fruity soda pop, I'd drink Mountain Dew.
 
2010-05-02 10:56:16 PM  
Dingfod: I don't care if there is no difference, there is a difference I can taste. Coke with HFCS tastes fruity in comparison to cane or beet sugar. If I wanted fruity soda pop, I'd drink Mountain Dew.

There is a distinct taste difference. Drinks made with sugar are less syrupy sweet.
 
2010-05-02 10:56:34 PM  
Dingfod: there is a difference I can taste.

This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this.
 
2010-05-02 11:03:10 PM  
Well, when Mexican coke starts showing up with HFCS, I'll stop buying that too.
 
2010-05-02 11:06:27 PM  
i bet you couldn't reliably tell a difference in a double blind test.
 
2010-05-02 11:08:24 PM  
I'm not sure it's chemically all that different, but since it's sweeter and easier to store than sugar, foods and drinks can be much larger and sweeter for the same price. That's probably the reason for the rise in obesity.
 
2010-05-02 11:10:04 PM  
Edipis: i bet you couldn't reliably tell a difference in a double blind test.

We've done that, I could 10 times in a row. Multiple bottles from different lots, some from Mexico, some from Hawaii. I could always tell sugar from HFCS.
 
2010-05-02 11:11:26 PM  
Edipis: i bet you couldn't reliably tell a difference in a double blind test.

I wish 5th graders did this experiment for the school fair.

HFCS Vs. Sugar Cola taste test.

I remember them doing a Pepsi Vs. Coke experiment and you couldn't tell the difference because they were both warm and flat.
 
2010-05-02 11:11:50 PM  
demanton: Well, when Mexican coke starts showing up with HFCS, I'll stop buying that too.

Yup.
 
2010-05-02 11:15:31 PM  
R.A.Danny: We've done that, I could 10 times in a row. Multiple bottles from different lots, some from Mexico, some from Hawaii. I could always tell sugar from HFCS.

what was your protocol? was it truly double blind?
 
2010-05-02 11:16:27 PM  
Chariset: That's probably the reason for the rise in obesity.

I figured it was because parents are letting their kids make it a regular part of their diet.

Reminds me...When I was a kid, McDonald's was a treat.
I had it once every other week, if that.
 
2010-05-02 11:19:37 PM  
stop subsidizing corn
 
2010-05-02 11:20:35 PM  
Edipis: R.A.Danny: We've done that, I could 10 times in a row. Multiple bottles from different lots, some from Mexico, some from Hawaii. I could always tell sugar from HFCS.

what was your protocol? was it truly double blind?


I volunteered for my daughter's science class and walked out of the room every time they changed stuff around. It was supervised by their teacher, so although all I have is blind faith in their tactics and in the fact that the other volunteer parents, most of whom had similar results (although some preferred the HFCS, it wasn't testing the person's ability to differentiate than it was a taste test) weren't shills, but it was done very well.
 
2010-05-02 11:24:01 PM  
Fark Coca-Cola and the others, this stuff is way better.

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/I don't even drink soda
 
2010-05-02 11:25:20 PM  
Bukharin: stop subsidizing corn

Here's a comment from an individual who has their head up their ass.
 
2010-05-02 11:28:38 PM  
lerry: Bukharin: stop subsidizing corn

Here's a comment from an individual who has their head up their ass.


I'm ok with my tax dollars paying farmers to grow food that we give to impoverished, starving people. Maybe I'm not bootstrappy enough.
 
2010-05-02 11:29:33 PM  
make me some tea: Fark Coca-Cola and the others, this stuff is way better.



/I don't even drink soda


Soda shouldn't be purple.
 
2010-05-02 11:30:26 PM  
As a beekeeper I sometimes have to feed new colonies to build them up for the long winter months. Once the honey flow stops there isn't enough food for them to continue to grow late in the season.

I stated feeding them cane sugar syrup then I saw the less expensive HFCS. I bought a few shipments of HFCS but stopped using it.

If cane sugar and HFCS are chemically the same then tell me why cane sugar syrup has a straw color in a white bucket and HFCS is bright blue?
 
2010-05-02 11:30:36 PM  
lerry: Bukharin: stop subsidizing corn

Here's a comment from an individual who has their head up their ass.


Its the wrong subsidy you're worrying about. TFA says sugar is 40% more expensive than HFCS but fails to mention that the reason is a tariff on sugar imports which keeps sugar artificially expensive in the US. For farks sake, we can't even afford to make lifesavers in the US because of the cost of sugar.
 
2010-05-02 11:30:41 PM  
HFCS has it's place. In cooking with Kyro Syrup. Popcorn balls, Some cobblers, pecan pie..etc.

But it was only in the 80's when it found it's way into almost everything from Ketchup, Sodas, and Tomato sauces.

I'm sure it does preform well in taste tastes..but then crack would make you want more in 10 mins or so.
 
2010-05-02 11:32:06 PM  
yeah, you are right, growing a crop that is profitable on it's own without political and genetic manipulation is a totally bad idea.
 
2010-05-02 11:33:15 PM  
optikeye: HFCS has it's place. In cooking with Kyro Syrup. Popcorn balls, Some cobblers, pecan pie..etc.

But it was only in the 80's when it found it's way into almost everything from Ketchup, Sodas, and Tomato sauces.

I'm sure it does preform well in taste tastes..but then crack would make you want more in 10 mins or so.


I'm sure it is the right ingredient for some things, just not my Coca Cola.
 
2010-05-02 11:33:17 PM  
bimalc: tariff on sugar

this too.
Ever have corn rum? Dont.
 
2010-05-02 11:34:50 PM  
Bukharin: bimalc: tariff on sugar

this too.
Ever have corn rum? Dont.


With HFCS Coke? Egads- that's like shiatting in your own mouth!
 
2010-05-02 11:35:00 PM  
lerry: Soda shouldn't be purple.

Um, grape soda? Really?

What am I going to do with you people.
 
2010-05-02 11:35:17 PM  
bimalc: lerry: Bukharin: stop subsidizing corn

Here's a comment from an individual who has their head up their ass.

Its the wrong subsidy you're worrying about. TFA says sugar is 40% more expensive than HFCS but fails to mention that the reason is a tariff on sugar imports which keeps sugar artificially expensive in the US. For farks sake, we can't even afford to make lifesavers in the US because of the cost of sugar.


I probably wouldn't care so much to respond if he posted what you just said.
 
2010-05-02 11:37:05 PM  
Bukharin: yeah, you are right, growing a crop that is profitable on it's own without political and genetic manipulation is a totally bad idea.

Thanks for finally seeing things from my point of view, which is the right point of view.
 
2010-05-02 11:37:11 PM  
optikeye: HFCS has it's place. In cooking with Kyro Syrup. Popcorn balls, Some cobblers, pecan pie..etc.

But it was only in the 80's when it found it's way into almost everything from Ketchup, Sodas, and Tomato sauces.

I'm sure it does preform well in taste tastes..but then crack would make you want more in 10 mins or so.


Oh sure, it has its own properties which are conducive to certain ways of preparing food, but yeah, the fact that it's in just about everything these days is rather appalling.
 
2010-05-02 11:39:00 PM  
lerry: I probably wouldn't care so much to respond if he posted what you just said.

It's a bit of both. Spending money to stop that which is good, vs spending money to promote that which is not good. It doesnt matter which side of the shiat-coin turns up, heads or tails is both 'lose.'
 
2010-05-02 11:43:00 PM  
How did we make it out of the 70's before the HFCS became so prevalent in everyplace thing?

I'm sure some don't like the taste of real sugar cane product.
But remember back when real butter was considered "BAD". So whipped hydrogenated butter flavored oils were the thing.

I remember my Aunt's children, who had never tasted 'butter' turned up their noses to butter--"It tastes funny"..they where brought up on Parkay and whipped butter. Same with real peanut butter, if it wasn't laced with sugar and whipped with oil into a candy like thing..they wouldn't eat it.
 
2010-05-02 11:48:28 PM  
 
2010-05-02 11:49:11 PM  
House of Tards: There is a distinct taste difference. Drinks made with sugar are less syrupy sweet.

its like a cleaner sort of taste...; that's how i describe it at least.
 
2010-05-02 11:51:34 PM  
OK, how long after the liters get a hold of this does the thread turn into an argument between "poop" and "soda"?
 
2010-05-02 11:52:34 PM  
Talon: HFCS is not the same as sugar.

Ive seen this. It's really good.
 
2010-05-02 11:57:21 PM  
lerry: OK, how long after the liters get a hold of this does the thread turn into an argument between "poop" and "soda"?

I'd hope that people choose "soda" out of those two choices.
 
2010-05-03 12:00:40 AM  
I can really taste the difference in yogurt (and other foods) made with real sugar and the stuff made with HFCS or Splenda. The latter has a chemicalish aftertaste that's really gross. That's why I go for the Dannon Natural instead of the Light 'n Fit, which has half the calories.
 
2010-05-03 12:07:18 AM  
I've noticed over the course of several threads that farkers are very passionate about this.
 
2010-05-03 12:08:52 AM  
optikeye: remember my Aunt's children, who had never tasted 'butter'

I didn't taste butter until I started working in a restaurant at age 12, and when I first tasted it I thought something was wrong with it-and to this day my Mom has never bought the real stuff.
 
2010-05-03 12:10:30 AM  
lerry: OK, how long after the liters get a hold of this does the thread turn into an argument between "poop" and "soda"?

POOP THREAD!
 
2010-05-03 12:11:26 AM  
GREEN. +1 subby!
 
2010-05-03 12:12:59 AM  
It's geat living in Ireland. You don't have to worry about your soft drink giving you more cancer than it should.
 
2010-05-03 12:13:41 AM  
lerry: OK, how long after the liters get a hold of this does the thread turn into an argument between "poop" and "soda"?

Soda is coming out.
 
2010-05-03 12:25:34 AM  
"Our bodies have been adapted over the years to metabolize sugar, which is natural," Mr. Royster says. "But the body doesn't know what to do with high-fructose corn syrup."

I'm not a fan of major corn subsidies and over-sugared foods, but this guy is a tool. Our body doesn't know what to do with HFCS? Horseshiat. It absolutely knows what to do with it.
 
2010-05-03 12:30:07 AM  
House of Tards: Soda is coming out.

L O farking L, literally
 
2010-05-03 12:38:00 AM  
FishyFred: I'm not a fan of major corn subsidies and over-sugared foods, but this guy is a tool. Our body doesn't know what to do with HFCS? Horseshiat. It absolutely knows what to do with it.

Spike our blood sugar levels and convert it to fat?
 
2010-05-03 12:40:35 AM  
Con_Authority: As a beekeeper I sometimes have to feed new colonies to build them up for the long winter months. Once the honey flow stops there isn't enough food for them to continue to grow late in the season.

I stated feeding them cane sugar syrup then I saw the less expensive HFCS. I bought a few shipments of HFCS but stopped using it.


Actually, HFCS55 is about 99% identical to honey. Much closer match than sugar syrup.

If cane sugar and HFCS are chemically the same then tell me why cane sugar syrup has a straw color in a white bucket and HFCS is bright blue?

Pics or it never happened.
 
2010-05-03 12:50:56 AM  
Dingfod: I don't care if there is no difference, there is a difference I can taste. Coke with HFCS tastes fruity in comparison to cane or beet sugar. If I wanted fruity soda pop, I'd drink Mountain Dew.

Funny you say that. I prefer HFCS Mountain Dew over 'throwback' Mountain Dew, and cane sugar coke over HFCS coke.
 
2010-05-03 12:51:56 AM  
I have a few problems with the article.

Like many people who get a creepy feeling about high-fructose corn syrup, Mr. Royster points out that it is a highly processed ingredient that was invented in the late 1960s and introduced into the food supply in the '80s.

Making sugar out of corn starch goes back to 1921, but yeah, the first commercial shipments were in the 1960's. The process they used dates to the fifties.

In March, his Facebook page lit up after a study from Princeton University gave credence to the idea that high-fructose corn syrup might, in fact, be worse than sugar.

"Our bodies have been adapted over the years to metabolize sugar, which is natural," Mr. Royster says. "But the body doesn't know what to do with high-fructose corn syrup."


This is some sneaky shiat right here.

If you weren't paying attention, you might think that this quotation has anything at all to do with the mentioned Princeton study.

Most people are stupid, so, a majority of people reading this will think that this assertion comes from Princeton rather than some rube with a facebook group.

Our bodies do know what to do with dextrose and fructose. Sucrose never makes it through your stomach in one piece anyhow.

I could go on but it's just so boring.

I prefer sucrose for flavor in most things. I'm against using tax dollars to artificially make HFCS cheaper than cane or beet sugar.

I figure the health problems associated with HFCS have more to do with people just eating too much of it - and eating too much sugar has the same problems.
 
2010-05-03 12:52:13 AM  
Con_Authority: As a beekeeper I sometimes have to feed new colonies to build them up for the long winter months. Once the honey flow stops there isn't enough food for them to continue to grow late in the season.

I stated feeding them cane sugar syrup then I saw the less expensive HFCS. I bought a few shipments of HFCS but stopped using it.

If cane sugar and HFCS are chemically the same then tell me why cane sugar syrup has a straw color in a white bucket and HFCS is bright blue?


No wonder the bees are dying.
 
2010-05-03 12:52:23 AM  
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

I think I'll trust this scholarly looking bit.
 
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