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(Daily Mail)   President Obama doesn't care about the Gulf of Mexico   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 414
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2010-05-01 06:27:52 AM  
morrach: Phil Herup: morrach: I swear you conservative shiat-eaters use the b-b-Bush card

Wow. You actually call that the "B..B..Bush card"?

You are the ones still bringing up Bush, maybe you should stop.


So we are not to discuss Bush when responding to negative comparisons between Obama and Bush? That's kind of unreasonable.


He typically trolls threads with no real point other than trying to trash the Fark LibsTM, as he puts anyone who disagrees. It's like arguing with a wall, but my walls are boring tonight.
 
2010-05-01 06:38:16 AM  
Phil Herup: davidphogan: Double-standards don't matter for trolls apparently.



Oh please. The Democrats and FARK LibsTM live by the double standard.


So vote Republican?
 
2010-05-01 06:41:33 AM  
Mrtraveler01: I know, I only wished I voted for McCain and Caribou Barbie instead.

I hear you're too young to vote, "Mr".
 
2010-05-01 06:47:06 AM  
It's stupid and wrong to be political and try to use this against Obama, but perfectly fine to be political and to use this against Palin.

This changes nothing at all, we still need energy and we are not going to tree hug our way out of it with wind turbines and solar panels. We're not going to conserve our way out of the problem with energy efficient houses and machines either. We need to develop energy from all sources, wind, oil, solar, natural gas, hydro electric, coal, and whatever else we can think of.

Any solution that does not include oil, natural gas and coal is moronic.

Any solution that does not include renewables is short sighted.
 
2010-05-01 06:48:46 AM  
morrach: Phil Herup: morrach: I swear you conservative shiat-eaters use the b-b-Bush card


Wow. You actually call that the "B..B..Bush card"?


You are the ones still bringing up Bush, maybe you should stop.


So we are not to discuss Bush when responding to negative comparisons between Obama and Bush? That's kind of unreasonable.


Can't you farking people just put this twat on your ignore list like the rest of us?
 
2010-05-01 06:53:38 AM  
Phil Moskowitz: Can't you farking people just put this twat on your ignore list like the rest of us?

I like to antogonize him until he goes back to his usual screen name. Then Libbynomo, er, JSA, can step in.
 
2010-05-01 06:55:38 AM  
davidphogan: I like to antogonize him until he goes back to his usual screen name.

This is me bowing before your mighty, mighty Internet Superpowers.
 
2010-05-01 06:56:13 AM  
Phil Moskowitz: morrach: Phil Herup: morrach: I swear you conservative shiat-eaters use the b-b-Bush card


Wow. You actually call that the "B..B..Bush card"?


You are the ones still bringing up Bush, maybe you should stop.


So we are not to discuss Bush when responding to negative comparisons between Obama and Bush? That's kind of unreasonable.

Can't you farking people just put this twat on your ignore list like the rest of us?



Who the hell goes to a roller coaster park and skips the roller coasters?
 
2010-05-01 06:57:35 AM  
Hetfield: davidphogan: I like to antogonize him until he goes back to his usual screen name.

This is me bowing before your mighty, mighty Internet Superpowers.


Please don't. I'm just a cheap-ass who is easily entertained by defeating trolls with their own version of logic.
 
2010-05-01 06:58:22 AM  
Oh.
 
2010-05-01 07:00:13 AM  
LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!

CANT YOU SEE HOW BLACK HE IS!?!?
 
2010-05-01 07:03:57 AM  
nothing but trolling. even cnn has taken the bait. GJ!
 
2010-05-01 07:35:40 AM  
Drill it

thepatriotaxe.com
 
2010-05-01 07:46:36 AM  
The chocolate city will now be dipped in crude oil.

I think Michelle Obama has a penis.
 
2010-05-01 07:52:24 AM  
I don't understand why the president has to go to the Gulf to look at something that he has no control over resolving. He's very busy in DC making sure our country is turned into a socialist dicatorship. Can't you people see the greater good here?
 
2010-05-01 07:58:19 AM  
Vindibudd: I don't understand why the president has to go to the Gulf to look at something that he has no control over resolving. He's very busy in DC making sure our country is turned into a socialist dicatorship. Can't you people see the greater good here?

Oh, come on, this isn't anywhere NEAR as good as your usual trolling. Go get some coffe and come back when you feel like putting some effort into it.
 
2010-05-01 08:05:15 AM  
Just wanted to give you guys a break between your "lawl Palin" and "blame Obama" pissing contest to remind you that there are real people who will probably lose there livelihood because of this.
 
2010-05-01 08:08:14 AM  
"Critics say?"
 
2010-05-01 08:16:18 AM  
Do you know who is dumber than Phil Herup? Every single person that replies to him.
 
2010-05-01 08:20:52 AM  
People like to blame people when things go wrong to make themselves feel better about the world.

We have no clue what happened. Get over yourselves.
 
2010-05-01 08:22:31 AM  
FTA 210,000 gallons a day...Experts are claiming that the spill could become the worst in history.

Either the experts think this spill will be allowed to continue for another 6 YEARS or the author made a typo and meant to put "idiots" rather than "experts."

The worst spill in history was between about 460 million barrels. The second worst was about 140 million barrels. This won't even be runner up unless we completely ignore it.
 
2010-05-01 08:27:42 AM  
snakespm: Just wanted to give you guys a break between your "lawl Palin" and "blame Obama" pissing contest to remind you that there are real people who will probably lose there livelihood because of this.

...most of whom are republican...
 
2010-05-01 08:30:59 AM  
Shatner's Bassoon: Do you know who is dumber than Phil Herup? Every single person that replies to him.

THISTHISTHISTHISTHIS
 
2010-05-01 08:33:39 AM  
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm:
...most of whom are republican...


Does it really matter if they are republicans or democrats?
 
2010-05-01 08:36:19 AM  
ghare: Vindibudd: I don't understand why the president has to go to the Gulf to look at something that he has no control over resolving. He's very busy in DC making sure our country is turned into a socialist dicatorship. Can't you people see the greater good here?

Oh, come on, this isn't anywhere NEAR as good as your usual trolling. Go get some coffe and come back when you feel like putting some effort into it.


But it amused me and that's what my goal was and I succeeded magnificently.
 
2010-05-01 08:46:07 AM  
I love science fiction thinkers.

Just because you have billions of dollars to throw at something, no matter how quickly you get on it, no matter how well armed you are, and no matter how much you really, really, really want there to be a fix, SOMETIMES THERE ISN'T ONE.

Compare Katrina. The needs were clear and incremental. Food. Shelter. Transport. Security. Obvious steps, albeit devilishly hard in the circumstances (I'm not the biggest blame-gamer there).

Compare this. If BP, TransOcean, and Halliburton, multibillion-dollar experts in oil exploration, don't have a farking clue how to shut this off or contain it (and they'd really, really like to), is the US supposed to have some magic Buck Rodgers machine that makes everything right, that Obama was just taking for joyrides on the Potomac? Something with Bruce Willis riding an atomic bomb, I presume?

This is beside the obvious point that there were Coasties on the scene at hour 1, not day 1.
 
2010-05-01 08:55:06 AM  
BP has actually done A TON of stuff in the past 8 days.

They combined with the Navy and the coast guard have been working extremely hard on dealing with this.

Unfortunately we have partisan morons who listen to mark levin and other dumbasses who rail against everything their opponents do so whatever.
 
2010-05-01 08:58:05 AM  
Lawnchair: I love science fiction thinkers.

Just because you have billions of dollars to throw at something, no matter how quickly you get on it, no matter how well armed you are, and no matter how much you really, really, really want there to be a fix, SOMETIMES THERE ISN'T ONE.

Compare Katrina. The needs were clear and incremental. Food. Shelter. Transport. Security. Obvious steps, albeit devilishly hard in the circumstances (I'm not the biggest blame-gamer there).

Compare this. If BP, TransOcean, and Halliburton, multibillion-dollar experts in oil exploration, don't have a farking clue how to shut this off or contain it (and they'd really, really like to), is the US supposed to have some magic Buck Rodgers machine that makes everything right, that Obama was just taking for joyrides on the Potomac? Something with Bruce Willis riding an atomic bomb, I presume?

This is beside the obvious point that there were Coasties on the scene at hour 1, not day 1.


So you're saying the US doesn't have a magic Buck Rodgers machine?
 
2010-05-01 09:01:42 AM  
kmmontandon: Hick: Heck of a job Obama.
SouthernManDunWrong: send out the SWAT team...that's a BIG FARKN help.


OK, folks, time to break this down with small words for the Palin-Americans.

1. There are no SWAT teams. You're an idiot for mentioning them.

To summarize, you're both idiots, and so are all your Fox News fellating ilk.


You would be right except for the fact that you are dead wrong. From CBS news (not known as a right wing network)

"Mr. Obama said SWAT teams were being dispatched to the Gulf to investigate oil rigs and said his administration is now working to determine the cause of the disaster." (new window)
/go back to the DU or HP for your news because you obviously don't know what the hell you are trolling.

Question: WTH will a SWAT team do on a farking oil well? I realize you are full of stupid so I will let you ask a friend so you can offer a coherent answer.
 
2010-05-01 09:02:53 AM  
This clusterf00k is going to be really interesting come hurricane season if kilobarrel+ seepage continues for months....
 
2010-05-01 09:07:06 AM  
Hick: Heck of a job Obama.

Heck of a post, Obvious Troll.

No, scratch that; boring and obvious and stupid post, Boring Cliche Wrapped in Skin.
 
2010-05-01 09:11:50 AM  
Lawnchair:

there were Coasties on the scene at hour 1, not day 1.

Adm. Allen. scheduled to retire in May 2010. Gonna miss him.
 
2010-05-01 09:16:53 AM  
This is the second thread I've posted this in, please read it, (new window) digest it, and put away the zombie SWAT talking point. From here

a Friday column by Ed O'Keefe at the Washington Post (new window), which explains, "The department deployed SWAT teams from the Minerals Management Service to inspect 30 drilling rigs operating in the deepwater sections of the Gulf of Mexico. Inspections should be completed within the next week, according to an Interior Department spokeswoman. Inspectors will check to see whether the rigs have conducted blow-out preventer tests and inspect related records."

The key here is that the teams were sent out by the Minerals Management Service, a section of the Department of the Interior which "plays a key role in America's energy supply by managing the mineral resources on 1.7 billion acres of the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS). This includes managing Renewable Energy Programs as well as Offshore Oil and Gas Leasing in Federal waters."

Although ithe acronym is not entirely clear, "SWAT" in this context could simply stand for "Swift Action Team," or it might represent something similar to the "soil and water assessment tool" used by the Department of Agriculture to monitor complex watersheds.


SWAT does not mean what you think it means. You're welcome for the education.
 
2010-05-01 09:25:54 AM  
snakespm: Just wanted to give you guys a break between your "lawl Palin" and "blame Obama" pissing contest to remind you that there are real people who will probably lose there livelihood because of this.

Yeah, that's sad, but my magic carpet isn't working right now, so I need gas for my car and so do you. Therefore, I'm not wagging my finger at anyone at the moment.
 
2010-05-01 09:30:53 AM  
You liberal pricks are so damned funny. If this happened under Bush/Cheney, you would be SCREAMING hysterically about how slow the federal government was responding. 'Bush's failure to act' would be the bold headline and lead story on all state media from now until election day.

But what's even more pathetic is the great 'leader', B. Hussein Obama, continually reversing himself on the decision to explore for oil and how to look decisive on this current fiasco.


Just as soon as he's ready, we will no doubt be thrilled by another of The Messiah'sTM soaring oratories on his bold and decisive action...

i42.tinypic.com
 
2010-05-01 09:38:20 AM  
graggor: BP has actually done A TON of stuff in the past 8 days.

They combined with the Navy and the coast guard have been working extremely hard on dealing with this.

Unfortunately we have partisan morons who listen to mark levin and other dumbasses who rail against everything their opponents do so whatever.


BP's maintenance and safety records say otherwise. It's kinda why they had their asses hauled before congress a few years ago.
 
2010-05-01 09:40:15 AM  
snakespm: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm:
...most of whom are republican...

Does it really matter if they are republicans or democrats?


Apparently it does to this President.
 
kab
2010-05-01 09:45:53 AM  
kmmontandon: 3. The BP spill is directly attributable to BP's poor engineering (and even more directly to Halliburton) - BP is a private company, and thus Obama is not actually in charge of it, or responsible for its decision making. The only federal agency that is remotely qualified to help with mitigate this disaster is the Coast Guard, and they've been on things from the beginning.

See, I have a problem with leaving this mess up to a farking oil company to fix. And if you don't agree, you may want to look back at how the Exxon spill was(n't) handled.

I'd prefer a "hey, you farked up. But we're going to pretty much do what you should be doing to clean this up and you'll get the bill later".

Then again, it's just ecology, right? I mean.. we're capitalists. Little green rectangular pieces of paper are FAR more important than our surroundings.

I'm suprised the right isn't pissed off that money is being spent on the cleanup in the first place.
 
2010-05-01 09:54:36 AM  
davidphogan: I'm just a cheap-ass who is easily entertained by defeating trolls with their own version of logic.


Well you are living in a dream world if you think you've defeated anyone.
 
2010-05-01 09:56:25 AM  
Phil Herup: davidphogan: I'm just a cheap-ass who is easily entertained by defeating trolls with their own version of logic.


Well you are living in a dream world if you think you've defeated anyone.


The whole point of a troll is to watch someone go after it. An authentic troll does not seek to win or lose an argument.
 
2010-05-01 09:56:35 AM  
Hmmm, wonder what that guy said in reply. Fortunately, I can't see it.

Suck it suck it suck it suck it suck it. BUAHAHAHAHA
 
2010-05-01 09:56:51 AM  
kab: kmmontandon: 3. The BP spill is directly attributable to BP's poor engineering (and even more directly to Halliburton) - BP is a private company, and thus Obama is not actually in charge of it, or responsible for its decision making. The only federal agency that is remotely qualified to help with mitigate this disaster is the Coast Guard, and they've been on things from the beginning.

See, I have a problem with leaving this mess up to a farking oil company to fix. And if you don't agree, you may want to look back at how the Exxon spill was(n't) handled.

I'd prefer a "hey, you farked up. But we're going to pretty much do what you should be doing to clean this up and you'll get the bill later".

Then again, it's just ecology, right? I mean.. we're capitalists. Little green rectangular pieces of paper are FAR more important than our surroundings.

I'm suprised the right isn't pissed off that money is being spent on the cleanup in the first place.


What? Why? The right loves oil! Why should they be pissed off that the Federal government is spending huge amounts of money to save a private corporation from the consequences of it's own bad decisions?

Oh.

Well all right then!
 
2010-05-01 09:57:33 AM  
Lenny_da_Hog: graggor: BP has actually done A TON of stuff in the past 8 days.

They combined with the Navy and the coast guard have been working extremely hard on dealing with this.

Unfortunately we have partisan morons who listen to mark levin and other dumbasses who rail against everything their opponents do so whatever.

BP's maintenance and safety records say otherwise. It's kinda why they had their asses hauled before congress a few years ago.


Dood. I am talking about this crisis. Not what led up to the crisis. We do not even know the cause of the accident. Accidents occur. Nothing in this life will be 100% preventable. IT is how we deal with our accidents that matter. RIght now BP is doing a lot and working with the NAVY, Coast Guard and thousands and thousands of people to clean this up.

A lot better than EXXON did in 1989.
 
2010-05-01 09:58:53 AM  
Gato Negro: You liberal pricks are so damned funny. If this happened under Bush/Cheney, you would be SCREAMING hysterically about how slow the federal government was responding. 'Bush's failure to act' would be the bold headline and lead story on all state media from now until election day.

And you'd be defending him, so what does that make you for attacking Obama now?
 
2010-05-01 09:59:01 AM  
Gato Negro: You liberal pricks are so damned funny. If this happened under Bush/Cheney, you would be SCREAMING hysterically about how slow the federal government was responding. 'Bush's failure to act' would be the bold headline and lead story on all state media from now until election day.

But what's even more pathetic is the great 'leader', B. Hussein Obama, continually reversing himself on the decision to explore for oil and how to look decisive on this current fiasco.


Just as soon as he's ready, we will no doubt be thrilled by another of The Messiah'sTM soaring oratories on his bold and decisive action...


A) they proper agencies reacted very quickly
B) there isn't a whole helluva lot you can do when a 1,000,000 gallons of oil is released off a coast line. All those booms and equipment are next to useless. Superheroes would helpful though. It is like trying to put tooth past back in the tube after your kids have squeezed it all over the dog.
 
2010-05-01 09:59:10 AM  
Emposter: kab: kmmontandon: 3. The BP spill is directly attributable to BP's poor engineering (and even more directly to Halliburton) - BP is a private company, and thus Obama is not actually in charge of it, or responsible for its decision making. The only federal agency that is remotely qualified to help with mitigate this disaster is the Coast Guard, and they've been on things from the beginning.

See, I have a problem with leaving this mess up to a farking oil company to fix. And if you don't agree, you may want to look back at how the Exxon spill was(n't) handled.

I'd prefer a "hey, you farked up. But we're going to pretty much do what you should be doing to clean this up and you'll get the bill later".

Then again, it's just ecology, right? I mean.. we're capitalists. Little green rectangular pieces of paper are FAR more important than our surroundings.

I'm suprised the right isn't pissed off that money is being spent on the cleanup in the first place.

What? Why? The right loves oil! Why should they be pissed off that the Federal government is spending huge amounts of money to save a private corporation from the consequences of it's own bad decisions?

Oh.

Well all right then!


BP is spending billions to deal with this issue. They have to coordinate clean up with the government and are working with the NAVY and coast guard to deal with this issue.

THeir response is far better than 1989s response from exxon.
They do accept responsibility and will work to make things better in the gulf. Exxon did everything to blame others and put off paying up for 20 years.
 
2010-05-01 10:00:35 AM  
Phil Herup: davidphogan: I'm just a cheap-ass who is easily entertained by defeating trolls with their own version of logic.


Well you are living in a dream world if you think you've defeated anyone.


You can't defeat people like yourselves. You never admit you are wrong even when it is painfully obvious.
 
2010-05-01 10:00:44 AM  
This wouldn't have happened in the first place if it wasn't for the draconian government regulations. Just like the recent mining accident. If the companies were allowed to do what they needed to do instead of what they were demanded to do we'd all be better off.
 
2010-05-01 10:01:37 AM  
the coast guard was there the day it happened with fire boats,

the navy coordinated with BP to help try to seal the leak on day 2.
they have been continually working since then to fix the issue.

the different epa boards, homeland security and lawyers are now being mobilized to fix this issue and focus on making plans using different resources to attack the leak.

i would say in week 1 a lot has been done.
 
2010-05-01 10:05:13 AM  
graggor: Lenny_da_Hog: graggor: BP has actually done A TON of stuff in the past 8 days.

They combined with the Navy and the coast guard have been working extremely hard on dealing with this.

Unfortunately we have partisan morons who listen to mark levin and other dumbasses who rail against everything their opponents do so whatever.

BP's maintenance and safety records say otherwise. It's kinda why they had their asses hauled before congress a few years ago.

Dood. I am talking about this crisis. Not what led up to the crisis. We do not even know the cause of the accident. Accidents occur. Nothing in this life will be 100% preventable. IT is how we deal with our accidents that matter. RIght now BP is doing a lot and working with the NAVY, Coast Guard and thousands and thousands of people to clean this up.

A lot better than EXXON did in 1989.


Of course you're not talking about what led up to it, or what came from it, because they're full of FAIL.

The only thing BP has to do on those fields is MANAGE them -- that means planning for the SAFE development and transportation of the oil.

They had no catastrophic failure plan for a platform? No spill contingency planning? Their engineering and/or operations and/or maintenance and/or training were so slack that they had an explosion that killed eleven workers?

Doing what the cops tell you to do afterward doesn't make you a model citizen. In the oil industry, incident prevention is the business of management, period.
 
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