BP doesn't give a shiat, either. fark, Exxon finally paid less than half of the cleanup for the Valdez last year as a settlement. Way to go, America! farking clowns.

kmmontandon: Hick: Heck of a job Obama.
SouthernManDunWrong: send out the SWAT team...that's a BIG FARKN help.


OK, folks, time to break this down with small words for the Palin-Americans.


1. There are no SWAT teams. You're an idiot for mentioning them.

2. Bush wasn't responsible for Hurricane Katrina. However, as President, he was responsible for the agency that handled disaster relief, that being FEMA. He appointed a completely unqualified, incompetent jackass to lead the agency, thus making its flailing response HIS FAULT. Period.

3. The BP spill is directly attributable to BP's poor engineering (and even more directly to Halliburton) - BP is a private company, and thus Obama is not actually in charge of it, or responsible for its decision making. The only federal agency that is remotely qualified to help with mitigate this disaster is the Coast Guard, and they've been on things from the beginning.

To summarize, you're both idiots, and so are all your Fox News fellating ilk.

But they're very well infromed.

Funny how all these keep government out of the Free-Market will regulate itself types are now whining about how the Federal government isn't doing enough to clean up one of their messes.

When did Jindal declare a state of emergency? When did request the Coast Guard?

Mentat: I think it's telling that BP isn't even trying to spin this. Normally the lawyers and PR flaks would be out in full force right now, but this is such a colossal fark up that there's just no spinning it. I know the Fox Brigade is trying like mad to find some hook, but it just isn't there.

Not necessarily. There's a PR school of thought that just admitting you were wrong when you screw up and working to solve the problem is the best PR move in a lot of circumstances. Arguably the greatest PR any company has ever gotten for anything was when Tylenol recalled their entire supply when someone tampered with some of their bottles back in the 80s. Firestone, on the other hand, almost went out of business when it was discovered that some of their tires exploded, they knew, and they did nothing.

Mentat: kmmontandon: 2. Bush wasn't responsible for Hurricane Katrina. However, as President, he was responsible for the agency that handled disaster relief, that being FEMA. He appointed a completely unqualified, incompetent jackass to lead the agency, thus making its flailing response HIS FAULT. Period.

Also, we knew for years that the levies were vulnerable.

We knew for 2 weeks that Katrina was coming.

We knew 3 days in advance that the storm would track directly over New Orleans.

We knew the day before that Katrina was category 5.

There was just no excuse for any of the authorities not to be ready. I know FEMA couldn't predict the full extent of the disaster on the Gulf Coast, but they seemed to be completely caught off guard.

This. As Katrina approached, I kept wondering why FEMA wasn't calling up every aid element they could, and moving them to staging points outside the hurricane path as close as they could safely get to NOLA so they could rush in as soon as the storm had passed. I was amazed at the utter incompetence that followed over the next two weeks as people starved, killed and died.

By contrast, Obama dispatched CG elements immediately, offered support to BP to contain the spill, and started doing everything he could right away.

Like I said, the spin right now is "Obama should have shut the offshore wells down in February 2009 if he cared so much, even though we would have had him impeached...A private oil company's farkup is all his fault, but he better not regulate private industry!"

Tards.

/Piece of shiat southern hicks can eat a bag of dicks.

Suck one, bigot.

I for one am looking forward to seeing how this affect the life of people in New Orleans in season 5 of Treme, coming 2015!

Mentat: OH THE HUGE MANATEES

If I can get a manatee-washing job I'll be stoked.

/dugong

It's just exactly like Katrina. Hence the endless coverage on CNN of northern gannet families sitting on the roofs of their nests with signs saying 'Send Copters!' (they can't fly themselves, what with the oil) and the manatees looting supermarkets for food and water.

I look forward to the future David Simon HBO series about an oil damaged marshland community trying to put itself back together after all this.

Neeek: Mentat: I think it's telling that BP isn't even trying to spin this. Normally the lawyers and PR flaks would be out in full force right now, but this is such a colossal fark up that there's just no spinning it. I know the Fox Brigade is trying like mad to find some hook, but it just isn't there.

Not necessarily. There's a PR school of thought that just admitting you were wrong when you screw up and working to solve the problem is the best PR move in a lot of circumstances. Arguably the greatest PR any company has ever gotten for anything was when Tylenol recalled their entire supply when someone tampered with some of their bottles back in the 80s. Firestone, on the other hand, almost went out of business when it was discovered that some of their tires exploded, they knew, and they did nothing.

At least they're not using the Toyota strategy of trying to blame everyone else besides themselves for the faulty gas pedals.

downtownant: electronicmaji: But FEMA has been on the scene since the fire first started. They were the ones that farking put it out.

The Gulf of Mexico put the fire out. The rig sank.

No i'm pretty sure they had trawlers their with firehoses they showed footage on the news.

Mentat:

Also, we knew for years that the levies were vulnerable.

We knew for 2 weeks that Katrina was coming.

We knew 3 days in advance that the storm would track directly over New Orleans.

We knew the day before that Katrina was category 5.

.

Who is this "we" you speak of?
Nagin?
The governor?
Army Corp of Engineers?
The coast guard?

Oh no, none of them. It is all Bush's fault.

Bush was awful, but blaming him for this is pathetic.

tenpoundsofcheese: Mentat:

Also, we knew for years that the levies were vulnerable.

We knew for 2 weeks that Katrina was coming.

We knew 3 days in advance that the storm would track directly over New Orleans.

We knew the day before that Katrina was category 5.

.

Who is this "we" you speak of?
Nagin?
The governor?
Army Corp of Engineers?
The coast guard?

Oh no, none of them. It is all Bush's fault.

Bush was awful, but blaming him for this is pathetic.

No, they all knew that Katrina was the big deal. The problem was nothing was little was able to get accomplished due to the bureaucracy of the whole operation as well as the logistics of evacuating a major US city. It was a break down in communication on all ends, and Bush picking a judge from a horse competition to head FEMA was definitely not one of his brightest ideas.

tenpoundsofcheese: Who is this "we" you speak of?

Well, Fark knew about it a few days in advance.

OBAAAAAAAMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Just wait till the oil gets caught up in the The Loop Current and enters the Gulf Stream. This is going to be much worse than I think anyone can imagine. They have no idea how to stop the flow.

Also, fark the media. Scumbag pieces of shiat all of em. I can't believe on Foxs' main evening "newscast" they were discussing who would potentially benefit politically from this.

"The president has vowed to personally lead the investigation into the government's failed response to the oil spill disaster? Isn't that a job perhaps someone else should be doing?" -Jon Stewart

"No, not at all, Jon. To truly find out what went wrong, it's important for an investigator to have a little distance from the situation. And it's hard to get any more distant from it than the president was last week." - "Daily Show" correspondent Samantha Bee

Lines we'll soon hear on The Daily Show....NOT!

evilboyevil:


/Piece of shiat southern hicks can eat a bag of dicks.

Name: Ryan Preller
Location: New York

Son, I invite you to come on down south and experience southern hospitality and say that to my face. Pretty please. With sugar on top.

Go Clegg!

Hey, he had to create some kind of crisis - an environmental Pearl Harbor, if you will - to get people behind his policies. Too bad about the shrimp, the pelicans, and the wetlands, but you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

Screw it. With my opinion of the human race where it is; I think I'm gonna just drive across the state, light a match and toss it in the gulf, then hope the rest of the country turns out to be extremely flammable.

If only black people would have been on that oil rig...THERE I SAID IT. Where's the outrage? Where's the Government Conspiracy? Where's the "HOW DARE HE?" Why does Obama hate white rough necks?

Phaid: Hey, he had to create some kind of crisis - an environmental Pearl Harbor, if you will - to get people behind his policies. Too bad about the shrimp, the pelicans, and the wetlands, but you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

Why didn't he just invade Canada then?

So now our born-again fiscal conservative Republicans are born-again environmentalists? How convenient.

Hey Reps, Obama killed the public option. Is it finally time for socialized medicine?

krelborne: In an apparent effort to make this "Obama's Katrina", both Hannity and Rush are lobbing accusations that this administration has done nothing about this for over a week, despite the fact that the Coast Guard was on it from day one. I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes the accepted narrative on the right.

Um your a jackass---he sent the NAVY 2 days ago. The Coast Guard can not contain an oil spill. So nice try but try again.. Because he did fail. Sending the Navy a week later to asses the situation is a jackass move--he took to long--he dropped the ball...NO REALLY-he farked UP!

Cup_O_Jo: If only black people would have been on that oil rig...THERE I SAID IT. Where's the outrage? Where's the Government Conspiracy? Where's the "HOW DARE HE?" Why does Obama hate white rough necks?

Gotta try a little harder than that to stir up the outrage. But you're getting there.

I'll leave this here. The Gulf Coast is in trouble people.

Leaked report:
Government fears Deepwater Horizon well could become unchecked gusher
By Ben Raines
April 30, 2010, 2:18PM Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano uses a map of the Gulf of Mexico during the daily press briefing at the White House in Washington, Thursday, April 29, 2010. A leaked memorandum obtained by the Press-Register on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the Deepwater Horizon well site could be on the verge of becoming an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. 'The following is not public' document states

This image provided by the U.S. Coast Guard Saturday April 24, 2010, shows oil leaking from the drill pipe of the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig after it sank. A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could be on the verge of becoming an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf.

"The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28. "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

Asked Friday to comment on the document, NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the additional leaks described were reported to the public late Wednesday night. Regarding the possibility of the spill becoming an order of magnitude larger, Smullen said, "I'm letting the document you have speak for itself."

In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something is 10 times larger. In this case, an order of magnitude higher would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5,000 barrels a day coming out now. That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or 2.1 million gallons a day. It appears the new leaks mentioned in the Wednesday release are the leaks reported to the public late Wednesday night.

"There is no official change in the volume released but the USCG is no longer stating that the release rate is 1,000 barrels a day," continues the document, referred to as report No. 12. "Instead they are saying that they are preparing for a worst-case release and bringing all assets to bear."

The emergency document also states that the spill has grown in size so quickly that only 1 to 2 percent of it has been sprayed with dispersants.

The Press-Register obtained the emergency report from a government official. The White House, NOAA, the Coast Guard and BP Plc did not immediately return calls for comment made early this morning.

The worst-case scenario for the broken and leaking well pouring oil into the Gulf of Mexico would be the loss of the wellhead and kinked piping currently restricting the flow to 5,000 barrels -- or 210,000 gallons -- per day.

If the wellhead is lost, oil could leave the well at a much greater rate.

"Typically, a very good well in the Gulf can produce 30,000 barrels a day, but that's under control. I have no idea what an uncontrolled release could be," said Stephen Sears, chairman of the petroleum engineering department at Louisiana State University.

On Thursday, federal officials said they were preparing for the worst-case scenario but didn't elaborate.

Kinks in the piping created as the rig sank to the seafloor may be all that is preventing the Deepwater Horizon well from releasing its maximum flow. BP is now drilling a relief well as the ultimate fix. The company said Thursday that process would take up to 3 months.
View from above
Gulf oil spill
See continuing coverage of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill of 2010 on al.com and GulfLive.com.

To keep track of the Gulf of Mexico oil slick, visit www.skytruth.org or follow its Twitter feed.

To see updated projection maps related to the oil spill in the Gulf, visit the Deepwater Horizon Response Web site established by government officials.

How to help: Volunteers eager to help cope with the spill and lessen its impact on the Gulf Coast environment and economy.

"I'm not sure what's happening down there right now. I have heard there is a kink in what's called the riser. The riser is a long pipe that connects the wellhead to the rig. I really don't know if that kink is a big restriction. Is that really a big restriction? There could be another restriction further down," said LSU's Sears.

"An analogy would be if you have a kink in a garden hose. You suspect that kink is restricting the flow, but there could be another restriction or kink somewhere else closer to the faucet.

BP Plc executive Doug Suttles said Thursday the company was worried about "erosion" of the pipe at the wellhead.

Sand is an integral part of the formations that hold oil under the Gulf. That sand, carried in the oil as it shoots through the piping, is blamed for the ongoing erosion described by BP.

"The pipe could disintegrate. You've got sand getting into the pipe, it's eroding the pipe all the time, like a sandblaster," said Ron Gouget, a former oil spill response coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Oil scooped up from the Gulf of Mexico 17 miles southeast of the South Pass of the Mississippi River is seen on the hand of deck hand Jordan Ellis on the Louisiana coast Friday, April 30, 2010. The oil originated from a leaking pipeline after last week's explosion and collapse of the Deepwater Horizon."When the oil is removed normally, it comes out at a controlled rate. You can still have abrasive particles in that. Well, now, at this well, its coming out at fairly high velocity," Gouget continued. "Any erosive grains are abrading the inside of the pipe and all the steel that comes in contact with the liquid. It's essentially sanding away the pipe."

Gouget said the loss of a wellhead is totally unprecedented.

"How bad it could get from that, you will have a tremendous volume of oil that is going to be offgassing on the coast. Depending on how much wind is there, and how those gases build up, that's a significant health concern," he said.

The formation that was being drilled by Deepwater Horizon when it exploded and sank last week is reported to have tens of millions of barrels of oil. A barrel contains 42 gallons.

Smullen described the NOAA document as a regular daily briefing. "Your report makes it sound pretty dire. It's a scenario," he said, "It's a regular daily briefing sheet that considered different scenarios much like any first responder would."

(Updated 5:57 p.m. to add response from NOAA spokesman.)

How is it not BPs fault for not having the resources to deal with a situation like this? They punched a hole into a pressurized pocket beneath the seafloor and didn't have the proper safety precautions in place.

Surool: How is it not BPs fault for not having the resources to deal with a situation like this? They punched a hole into a pressurized pocket beneath the seafloor and didn't have the proper safety precautions in place.

If only we, like other off-shore drilling nations, had mandated the use of an acoustic switch.... You know, a regulation to keep greedy companies from endangering things by cutting costs to maximize profits?

Mrtraveler01: Cup_O_Jo: If only black people would have been on that oil rig...THERE I SAID IT. Where's the outrage? Where's the Government Conspiracy? Where's the "HOW DARE HE?" Why does Obama hate white rough necks?

Gotta try a little harder than that to stir up the outrage. But you're getting there.

Not stirring up outrage as much as laying it out how it really seems. If Bush were still in office the Eco freaks would have been everywhere freaking out throwing malatov cocktails at the White House. But this guy pretty much ignores this shiat for a week...then get's a "general findings" report from the Coast Guard a WEEK later- the Navy is there--no one knows why--and NOAA makes a small speech. It's just amazing and kind of creepy that the President who just a month ago said he wants to drill off the coast--all the sudden--has nothing to say.. It's odd. Then to add to the strange his "followers" seem to be all upset that Fox News waits A WEEK to call him on it--then they get all pissy. It's just like..N o the mother farker should have been called out immediately and done something. Considering the EPIC proportion of this ECO disaster I find it weird that so many people are so farking silent then when they finally say something--it's to biatch because the conservatives finally said something. WTF? HEAD SPINS

Surool: How is it not BPs fault for not having the resources to deal with a situation like this? They punched a hole into a pressurized pocket beneath the seafloor and didn't have the proper safety precautions in place.

Um they did but that bit turned into tiny shrapnel when it EXPLODED...

Lenny_da_Hog: Surool: How is it not BPs fault for not having the resources to deal with a situation like this? They punched a hole into a pressurized pocket beneath the seafloor and didn't have the proper safety precautions in place.

If only we, like other off-shore drilling nations, had mandated the use of an acoustic switch.... You know, a regulation to keep greedy companies from endangering things by cutting costs to maximize profits?

Apparently our politicians are the cheapest in the world.

On a serious note...is their anything that Obama hasn't screwed up? What a total embarrassment he is to our country. Does anyone remember him trying to enter the White House through a window when he mistook it for a door? Total hilarity! Or the simple words he has misspelled on camera...especially when he filled out his NCAA brackets on ESPN. Or the total look of horror that overcomes him when his teleprompter breaks down! I could go on for days, but the bottom line is that this guy is a laughingstock and certainly not strong or smart enough to handle small problems and certainly out of his league during a real crisis. Most likely he's a nice young man, but obviously in way over his head!

Cup_O_Jo: Surool: How is it not BPs fault for not having the resources to deal with a situation like this? They punched a hole into a pressurized pocket beneath the seafloor and didn't have the proper safety precautions in place.

Um they did but that bit turned into tiny shrapnel when it EXPLODED...

So, they aren't responsible for rapid response when their own equipment fails?

Cup_O_Jo: Mrtraveler01: Cup_O_Jo: If only black people would have been on that oil rig...THERE I SAID IT. Where's the outrage? Where's the Government Conspiracy? Where's the "HOW DARE HE?" Why does Obama hate white rough necks?

Gotta try a little harder than that to stir up the outrage. But you're getting there.

Not stirring up outrage as much as laying it out how it really seems. If Bush were still in office the Eco freaks would have been everywhere freaking out throwing malatov cocktails at the White House. But this guy pretty much ignores this shiat for a week...then get's a "general findings" report from the Coast Guard a WEEK later- the Navy is there--no one knows why--and NOAA makes a small speech. It's just amazing and kind of creepy that the President who just a month ago said he wants to drill off the coast--all the sudden--has nothing to say.. It's odd. Then to add to the strange his "followers" seem to be all upset that Fox News waits A WEEK to call him on it--then they get all pissy. It's just like..N o the mother farker should have been called out immediately and done something. Considering the EPIC proportion of this ECO disaster I find it weird that so many people are so farking silent then when they finally say something--it's to biatch because the conservatives finally said something. WTF? HEAD SPINS

Well part of it should be blammed on the Coast Guard and their initial predictions that oil was not leaking. I mean I think Obama stayed on top of it from the initial explosion. But it was hard to play catch up when you guess wrong in regards to how much oil was leaking out.

rjkline: On a serious note...is their anything that Obama hasn't screwed up? What a total embarrassment he is to our country. Does anyone remember him trying to enter the White House through a window when he mistook it for a door? Total hilarity! Or the simple words he has misspelled on camera...especially when he filled out his NCAA brackets on ESPN. Or the total look of horror that overcomes him when his teleprompter breaks down! I could go on for days, but the bottom line is that this guy is a laughingstock and certainly not strong or smart enough to handle small problems and certainly out of his league during a real crisis. Most likely he's a nice young man, but obviously in way over his head!

I know, I only wished I voted for McCain and Caribou Barbie instead.

Barack Obama don't care about black littoral zones

Cup_O_Jo: Considering the EPIC proportion of this ECO disaster I find it weird that so many people are so farking silent then when they finally say something--it's to biatch because the conservatives finally said something. WTF? HEAD SPINS

Obama gets a free pass on any idiotic pronouncement he makes. Whether it's gleefully claiming that he's going to make energy prices soar, saying that at some point you've made enough money, calling cops idiots for making a legitimate arrest just because the suspect is an angry black man, etc, doesn't matter. His supporters have bought into the kool aid so hard that they will deny he ever said these things, and when denial becomes impossible they equivocate and say it doesn't matter.

Point being, it is impossible for Obama to "have a Katrina" because people are too wilfully blind, and the media is too afraid of him, to point out how incompetently he handles a crisis.

Surool: So, they aren't responsible for rapid response when their own equipment fails?

If it failed on its own that would be one thing. If it was sabotaged then no, not so much.

Phaid: Surool: So, they aren't responsible for rapid response when their own equipment fails?

If it failed on its own that would be one thing. If it was sabotaged then no, not so much.

It was sabotaged?

electronicmaji: downtownant: electronicmaji: But FEMA has been on the scene since the fire first started. They were the ones that farking put it out.

The Gulf of Mexico put the fire out. The rig sank.

No i'm pretty sure they had trawlers their with firehoses they showed footage on the news.

Or, you know, they could have been supply boats that were working the field the Deepwater Horizon was in.

Phaid: Point being, it is impossible for Obama to "have a Katrina" because people are too wilfully blind, and the media is too afraid of him, to point out how incompetently he handles a crisis.

Wrong. It's just hard to take criticism over this crisis seriously when you cons are jumping for joy over Obama finally "having a Katrina". You already tried this when the ice storm hit Kentucky and it didn't stick then, so you are making sure to lay it on thick this time around. If you'd stop masturbating about it for ten seconds maybe your criticism would have more impact?

Phaid: Surool: So, they aren't responsible for rapid response when their own equipment fails?

If it failed on its own that would be one thing. If it was sabotaged then no, not so much.

Are you one of those conspiracy theory people? Geez, give the authorities time to investigate the matter before jumping to conclusions.

Phaid: Cup_O_Jo: Considering the EPIC proportion of this ECO disaster I find it weird that so many people are so farking silent then when they finally say something--it's to biatch because the conservatives finally said something. WTF? HEAD SPINS

Obama gets a free pass on any idiotic pronouncement he makes. Whether it's gleefully claiming that he's going to make energy prices soar, saying that at some point you've made enough money, calling cops idiots for making a legitimate arrest just because the suspect is an angry black man, etc, doesn't matter. His supporters have bought into the kool aid so hard that they will deny he ever said these things, and when denial becomes impossible they equivocate and say it doesn't matter.

Point being, it is impossible for Obama to "have a Katrina" because people are too wilfully blind, and the media is too afraid of him, to point out how incompetently he handles a crisis.

how's that haterade tasting?

Phaid: Surool: So, they aren't responsible for rapid response when their own equipment fails?

If it failed on its own that would be one thing. If it was sabotaged then no, not so much.

You're an idiot.

In any hazardous industry, the permit holder is required to have contingency plans and is responsible for the safety of the assets -- including threats from sabotage, if that's even remotely likely to happen.

Do a few HAZOPS sessions and get back to me.

Of course it was sabotage. We all know what happened here...

jerry2a: Of course it was sabotage. We all know what happened here...

OMG, Obama is General Zod. It all makes sense now.

/kneel before Zod...I mean Obama