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(wbbm780.com)   Self-proclaimed science geek upset with city limit signs trumpeting football team. Wants signs promoting Science Olympiad team   (wbbm780.com) divider line 41
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2003-05-09 11:41:35 PM
I got bored reading this headline...
 
2003-05-10 12:31:43 AM
Do they fund SO in HS these days?
I would think it would eat away cash from the girl's volleyball team, and that is simply uncalled for.
 
2003-05-10 03:45:59 AM
I don't think he has enough leverage to pull it off.
 
2003-05-10 03:46:22 AM
I think it would be great to have a sign promoting the Science Olympiad team. That way, when the football players need a location to duct tape the science geeks to before stripping them naked and shaving their nutsacks, there will be an appropriate sign post on which to do it.
 
2003-05-10 03:52:37 AM
I can't help but think that the sign would be the least obnoxious thing about living in a football-obsessed rural town outside Cleveland.
 
2003-05-10 04:01:29 AM
"corporation limit"...

meaning, "so, how much tax dollars will your science olympiad team be bringing?"

"less than the sign is worth? ok, that's what I thought..."

I used to be in science olympiad... if he wants a sign up that bad, he should go ahead and put one up himself.
 
2003-05-10 04:05:11 AM
<--- I'd hit it.

/too late, by many, many days

(dork who played football and thinks football rules!, leave the signs, ass)
 
2003-05-10 04:05:58 AM
Football players shave science geeks' nutsacks?

And you're saying they AREN'T homosexual?
 
2003-05-10 04:12:47 AM
fottball players will shave pretty much any nutsack they can get ahold of. thats one of the reasons i never joined the "guys-tackling-each-other-and-showering-together" club.
 
2003-05-10 04:13:28 AM
I'm for it. It's farking sad to live in a society that doesn't promote the cultivation of one's mind over entertainment. When we go the way of Rome and the Greece, it'll probably be because our kids will have become too stupid to even find Iraq on a map....oh wait, we're already there.
 
2003-05-10 04:19:25 AM
Dork.
Give him a wedgie and send him on his way.
 
2003-05-10 04:25:07 AM
Hooray! I'm for the other team!

/Schoolhouse Rock
 
2003-05-10 04:25:51 AM
Exercising/Sport would benefit the Geek as well. That's before even considerng the fact that college football money may fund his/her research as well.

So much easier to label him/her a facist liberal.
 
2003-05-10 04:30:40 AM
I agree with the man. Not because he's right, but because the town's accolades are pretty pathetic.

Seriously, if your town's only claim to fame worth telling to outsiders is winning a Division II high school football state championship back in 1994, you need to take pride in something else for awhile.

At least Al Bundy shut up about his "4 touchdowns in one game" high school glory every once in awhile. These people need to get over their school's pitiful little cinderella run and try to tell incoming motorists something meaningful that won't make them laugh hysterically.
 
2003-05-10 04:45:13 AM
Go science geek go! ra- ra- ra. Gimme an "S!" Gimme a "C!" Gimme an "I!" ...and so forth.
 
2003-05-10 05:02:41 AM
Simply erecting a sign to honor the science team will not change the mentality of the residents of the town, nor will it change the trend of the entire society. People aren't going to read the sign and be swayed to change their thinking to "Science kicks ass!"

It's farking sad to live in a society that doesn't promote the cultivation of one's mind over entertainment.

And this is why some athletes choose to skip college and join the draft in order to sign a $$$ contract to play their sport professionally. Education vs. sports? Do the math. Professional athletes, even the ones who aren't the star of the team, get paid far more than the best school teacher or college professor. And I don't see many big corporations lining up to sign educators for product endorsements.

I think it would make for some interesting commercials though. "Whenever I have to stand up to deliver a three-hour lecture, I need a dependable shoe. One with great arch support that can go the distance, and a gripping tread for those quick pivot movements when I need to turn around and write an important point on the board. Nike. The official shoe of state university professors everywhere."
 
2003-05-10 06:10:44 AM
i bet this kid wonders why he gets picked on.
 
2003-05-10 06:12:12 AM
ha! i didnt read it. that guys old.

i bet he still wonders why he used to get picked on.
 
2003-05-10 06:27:14 AM
Now Kady don't you think that you might generalizing too much. I remember my life before reading my first "science kicks ass!" sign.

It was a dull meaningless life filled with fame, money, and endorsed clothing lines. But then one day while I was driving my SL 600 I saw the roadside sign calling me towards science. I left behind my life as a sucessful athlete of some sort and broke all ties to the industry.

Today my prospects are bright, as are most other science students and professional scientists, as an unpaid intern in an atomic optics laboratory that I am very greatful to have.

Regrets? Well I wish I had kept that Nike endorsement.

Well fellow farkers, remember to attend plenty of sporting events, watch plenty of late night ET-esque celebrity tv news shows, and MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL......

continue to:
work-work-work-work, consume-consume-consume,
work-work-work-work, consume-consume-consume.

(you should probably chant this to yourself five or six times to insure you live a full healthy and happy American life)

I hope that all of your celebrity idols can live out your dreams of excess for you as mine have.

(yes its a joke -- isn't it?)
 
2003-05-10 06:28:45 AM
My money's on the phycisist.
He designs the toys that the former-jocks, now cannonfodder, will be unevenly distributed over the landscape by.

Whoa, funky grammar there. Must be something wrong with it, can't put my finger on it though...

As for tax-dollars : the money Gulf War III cost will not be going towards paying for pensions, education, unemployment or any other useful application.
 
2003-05-10 06:32:47 AM
BrassHat reminded me of the great nuclear physics oppurtunities available in the American, North Korean, Iranian, and Pakistani governments... : /
 
2003-05-10 07:08:19 AM
PhysicsGuy:

as an unpaid intern in an atomic optics laboratory

Where can I purchase season tickets so I can watch all the exciting lab action? Do you pass out big foam fingers of science? And, more importantly, does your lab have beer and soft pretzel vendors?

MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL......
continue to:
work-work-work-work, consume-consume-consume,
work-work-work-work, consume-consume-consume.
(you should probably chant this to yourself five or six times to insure you live a full healthy and happy American life)


I laughed when I read that. Your words remind me of the book White Noise by Don DeLillo. Not sure if you've ever read it; the main character Jack "J.A.K." Gladney is a college professor in the field of Hitler Studies who is a cog in the wheel of mass consumerism. One of my favorite books.

GO PHYSICS GUY!

/former cheerleader reliving her "glory days"
 
2003-05-10 07:32:42 AM
Kady: That way, when the football players need a location to duct tape the science geeks to before stripping them naked and shaving their nutsacks, there will be an appropriate sign post on which to do it.

Is this how Dr. Evil got his start?

"There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it."
 
2003-05-10 09:26:47 AM
Weird, I'm from Chardon...

I vote for no damn signs at all.
 
2003-05-10 10:07:00 AM
Idiot! Doesn't he realize that these days football players CAN be smart too? I was the local Computer Geek in High School. I was also a 2 year letterman in Football. All through High School I was on the Debate Team, Math and Computer Club, Quiz Bowl, Engineering Society, as well as a bunch of other clubs.

You know what I remember from High School the most? The Football team! You know what prepared me for life the most? The Football team! Football taught me the intangibles of life. Things like a hard work ethic, confidence, discipline, and the ability to reach deep down inside and accomplish things I didn't even know I could do. It sure as heck wasnt the Math Club that gave me the confidence to ask out the beautiful woman that would become my wife.

I can't stand scientists who treat science as a religion and the be all/end all of all things. Sorry, science is just a tool like anything else.

And the worst of all is the fact that he wants to replace it with "home of the middle school state champion Science Olympiad team." WTF? How can he compare the amount of hard work and preparation that goes into a state football championship to a MIDDLE SCHOOL science team!!?!? I've been on both---middle school does not compare. At least pick something comparable.
 
2003-05-10 10:36:59 AM
This town has a much bigger problem than what to put on
their city limits signs: SPELLING!!! What's wrong with
the people in Ohio, they can't even spell hardon correctly.
 
2003-05-10 12:26:56 PM
Brian_ellenberger: How can he compare the amount of hard work and preparation that goes into a state football championship to a MIDDLE SCHOOL science team!!?!? I've been on both---middle school does not compare.

Sorry to put it so bluntly, but fark you. It may not be physical work--it may not *feel* like work to you--but it's just as much work as being on a sports team. Months of preparation and quite a bit of dedication go into a Science Olympiad team, even one that's not a championship team.

Yes, I know some jocks can be smart, and I highly respect those that can work both ends of the spectrum. But you are speaking about the vast minority there.

But if football taught you the most about life, you obviously aren't applying your life to science.
 
2003-05-10 12:32:05 PM
...i go to Los Alamitos High School in So Cal...how the hell do think I feel?
 
2003-05-10 01:00:41 PM
In my town, Basketball was the major sport. Mostly cause we were 0-10 for years straight in football, but anyway.

What really pissed me off is that my High School only gave out scholarships to students who were athletes. ACT/SAT scores never factored in, and the GPA very little. It was quite sad, really. I had to work at home to help my family, so i didn't have the time to play sports, and didn't get the scholarships. It basically pissed me off for the rest of my life. Well, i'll graduate as an electrical engineer soon, so i say sucks to that place, and sucks to sports
 
2003-05-10 01:32:46 PM
I dont really have an opinion either way, we dont have a winning football team and we dont have a winning science olympiad team. My town's only claim to fame is being the hometown of TOm Izzo/Steve Mariucci, and we proclaim that every chance we get. I hate living in a small town.
 
2003-05-10 02:05:49 PM
Brian_ellenberger So you are alpha-male. Can I have your autograph?

Actually, I get your point about stereotypes. My tiny school didn't have a football team, things like this weren't even an issue. I joined the reserves for my last year of high school, same thing regarding confidence building. Plus you get to fire a lot of fully automatic weapons.
 
2003-05-10 02:09:02 PM
Brian:

You know what prepared me for life the most? The Football team! Football taught me the intangibles of life. Things like a hard work ethic, confidence, discipline, and the ability to reach deep down inside and accomplish things I didn't even know I could do.

You know what prepared me for life the most? My education. You make it seem as though football is the only thing that can teach "the intanglibles of life." I graduated first in my high school class. I didn't need football to teach me things like a hard work ethic, confidence, discipline, and the ability to reach deep down inside and accomplish things I didn't even know I could do. I am glad that football worked for you, but it's not the universal key to life's lessons for most people.

I come from a family of athletes, but if you asked any person in my family which they would rather do without, an education or athletics, I know they would all choose education. I am not against sports by any means, but they have their place. To elevate sports to a level above education or science is just ridiculous. People could exist without football and live the same type of life that they currently enjoy. Remove education and science from the equation, and you cannot make the same claim.

And the worst of all is the fact that he wants to replace it with "home of the middle school state champion Science Olympiad team." WTF? How can he compare the amount of hard work and preparation that goes into a state football championship to a MIDDLE SCHOOL science team!!?!? I've been on both---middle school does not compare. At least pick something comparable.

After reading the entire article, one is able to understand the point of the scientist's argument is that the town can claim additional achievements besides a 1994 football championship.

[From the article] The school district has a champion football team, tennis player, track team, physics team, cheerleading squad, several national merit scholars, a distinguished principal and the Science Olympiad team (which, by the way, has won two straight state titles).

Obviously the town has more to be proud of than a 1994 football championship. Either add signs proclaiming newer and different accomplishments, or have no signs at all. Or continue to post only a sign that boasts an aging football championship that will cause passing motorists to wonder why this town has done nothing of which to be proud for nearly a decade.
 
2003-05-10 02:10:05 PM
Gerf In my graduating class of 40, about half of which were mature students, I was valedictorian. I won fully half of the awards of our graduating class: pretty much all the academic ones.

All the monetary awards went to other people. Mostly to the "lower" students who were working co-op or going into trades. Some to atheletes.

I got $200, $100 of which was the Ontario Scholar award everyone with a high enough average got.

Anyways, there's priorities for you. I got lots of recognition, but the money would have helped when I went to university.
 
2003-05-10 02:24:42 PM
Well, our middle school won the national championship 2 years ago and our city put a nice "Home of National Champion Science Olympiad Team 2001" sign right beneath the city limits sign. I thought it was a nice touch (and the next year, they had to conduct TRYOUTS for the Science Olympiad team...first time ever!)
 
2003-05-10 02:36:16 PM
kinda a sad flame war

/moves on
 
2003-05-10 03:09:53 PM
This calls for a 1980's movie where cliched jocks and cliched nerds battle it out with nerf balls.
 
2003-05-10 03:27:30 PM
Eh, Science Olympiad was fun. I had my first kiss on the state championship trip, we won state, and had an even better time. Now, I've never paid a goddamn dime for my higher education, and I make a pretty decent amount of money in my field while I work through grad school.

But come on! 1994? We won two straight state titles, and noone cared. Except for my parents. They saw the big trophy I got. So what if you're not recognized by random motorists? I got noticed by the president of a biotech company, and I've been working there since.

The only lame geek is a bitter one.
 
2003-05-10 04:46:03 PM
Actually, I'm not bitter. There weren't so many divisions at my high school. And I think I made a pretty good life for myself so far.
 
2003-05-10 10:08:13 PM
Science will get the general recognition it deserves the same day that the head of the CDC gets angry about a reporters SARS question, and runs over and Darryl Stingleys his arse.
 
2003-05-10 10:40:03 PM
Football is more important than science, after all.
I mean, football gave us the internal combustion engine, malaria vaccine and computers. What has science ever done for us?
 
2003-05-11 03:01:45 AM
Two Words:

Egg Drop
 
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