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(Centre Daily Times)   Police read student's away message: "U wanna drink?... U tell me what u want, gimme the cash, and I'll get you the bottles like lickety split, yo." Take him up on offer. Hilarity ensues   (centredaily.com) divider line 104
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2003-05-10 12:03:14 AM  
lol u got in teh trouble!!1

brb
 
2003-05-10 12:15:55 AM  
u teh asshat, yo
 
2003-05-10 12:35:11 AM  
This would qualify as teh funny.
I thought most college's sort of turn the other cheek to most liquor violations.
 
2003-05-10 01:57:04 AM  
Someone must have ratted him out. I mean police "found out" about his instant message?
 
2003-05-10 01:59:02 AM  
Technically the guy never gave alcohol to a minor. So what is his crime?
 
2003-05-10 01:59:22 AM  
Like 10 girls a week get raped at that damn place, they've NEVER solved a murder that required an investigation, and these big bad police men get a dude selling Rum?!?!??!

How would we sleep at night without the diligent SC police department??

/sarcasm

NEVER let your daughter go to PSU EVER.
 
2003-05-10 02:01:24 AM  
Oops my bad the University Police.

They accused me of being a 6' 3" black man once.
The fact I'm 5'4" and IRISH didn't seem to throw a flag.

Yup real effective that they are.
 
2003-05-10 02:02:23 AM  
StrongBrad
I might be wrong, but I think this has to do with what he thought he was doing. He thought the cop was underage and attempted to do the deed, thus busted.
 
2003-05-10 02:02:25 AM  
"On March 25, court records show, Sucheski again went to Lucien's room to pick up another bottle of Captain Morgan. This time, the officer mentioned that he was under 21, police reports show. After Lucien gave it to him, Sucheski identified himself as a police officer and requested Lucien's ID."
 
2003-05-10 02:02:31 AM  
StrongBrad

I assume it's similar to "intent to distribute", but I'm no lawyer.
 
2003-05-10 02:03:54 AM  
Simeon J. Lucien, 19,...
What's he doing?
Stealing it from mommy and daddy's cabinet?
 
2003-05-10 02:05:01 AM  
how..what...why would you make it your thing to buy for random minors? i'm farking flabbergasted.
 
2003-05-10 02:05:42 AM  
The whole thing is stupid imo.
 
2003-05-10 02:06:50 AM  
so maybe I shouldn't use my away message that says "out on a killing spree" anymore, should i?
 
2003-05-10 02:07:25 AM  
For the bling, uh, yo.
 
2003-05-10 02:07:44 AM  
StrongBrad

Good point. It's these stupid "intent to" laws: the law ought to be "you can't sell alcohol to minors," not "you can't sell alcohol to people pretending to be minors, or people you believe to be minors."
 
2003-05-10 02:08:39 AM  
"charged with committing unlawful acts relative to liquor, alcohol and liquor licensees..."

he's probably got a fake, wants to look cool.
 
2003-05-10 02:11:04 AM  
..."intent to" laws
But what about 'Attempted murder'?
Why is attempted murder less of a crime than murder?
All it means is that the victim got lucky.
The attempter shouldn't get off easy just because they suck at murder.
 
2003-05-10 02:11:52 AM  
Haha
 
2003-05-10 02:11:57 AM  
Charon ushers you across the river Acheron, and you find yourself upon the brink of grief's abysmal valley. You are in Limbo, a place of sorrow without torment. You encounter a seven-walled castle, and within those walls you find rolling fresh meadows illuminated by the light of reason, whereabout many shades dwell. These are the virtuous pagans, the great philosophers and authors, unbaptised children, and others unfit to enter the kingdom of heaven. You share company with Caesar, Homer, Virgil, Socrates, and Aristotle. There is no punishment here, and the atmosphere is peaceful, yet sad.
 
2003-05-10 02:12:58 AM  
point is not that "selling alcohol to people pretending to be minors," or "people he believed to be minors"... didnt u notice the guy was a 19yo himself
 
2003-05-10 02:17:28 AM  
Gwendolyn

The murderers need to identify themselves in IM.
 
2003-05-10 02:17:40 AM  

But what about 'Attempted murder'?
Why is attempted murder less of a crime than murder?
All it means is that the victim got lucky.
The attempter shouldn't get off easy just because they suck at murder.


Was someone murdered? If not, then the person in question shouldn't be charged with "attempted murder." I can intend to murder someone sitting in my armchair. Now you might say "but there's a difference between that and someone who goes out, gets a gun, and hunts down his intended target," and you'd be right, there is, but the difference does not lie in that person's intent. Like it or not, the line is drawn at actual ACTION, I don't care what the person was intending or even what his actions might have amounted to if the circumstances were different. It turns out these cops weren't minors, so the kid should walk.
 
2003-05-10 02:17:45 AM  
Hey Gwendolyn, uh, uh, uh, oh forget it.
 
2003-05-10 02:18:04 AM  
Yeah I had the momentary "stupid cops" thought, but then I thought again and screw this kid. He did it not once but twice, and he's selling alcohol to people (minors, namely) he doesn't even know. Screw him and his stupidity-- he deserves the fine/community hours/whatever else they throw at him.

Plus twenty bucks for a fifth of Captain Morgan, come on now. If you're a college student and you choose to drink hard liquor, it's gotta be the one and only old no. 7..
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2003-05-10 02:20:27 AM  
Creep Vassalage so you think legally it should be fine if I pour cyanide in your coffee, as long as you decide not to drink it that day? If I shoot at you and miss?

There's a point where intent becomes pretty damn obvious.
 
2003-05-10 02:20:29 AM  
Well, now that I know that the police might be reading my away messages on IM, I'll be creating a new one, titled "Fark the Police". Maybe for the message body, I'll just leave some lyrics from the NWA song with that very same name.

"The verdict: the jury has found you guilty of being a redneck, whitebread, chickensh-t motha farker..."
 
2003-05-10 02:22:04 AM  
Batmn42 I disagree. If you're going with cheap hard stuff I do agree with going for the whiskey family, but I think this should be the top choice.

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2003-05-10 02:22:45 AM  
Aren't the authorities the least bit concerned with how he managed to buy the booze? It sounds stupid for me to even ask, being a rather avid underage drinker when I was that age, but really, did he simply have a fake, or was the liquour store clerk just plain stupid? At any rate, this kid really is a Grade-A dumbass. They should force him to do kegstands until he hurls.... wait, that's a good thing...whatever.
 
2003-05-10 02:25:09 AM  
Creep Vassalage
So the 40 year olds tring to make sex 'dates' with 12 year old girls on the intenet should walk too since they're really talking to hairy-butted 46 year old vice-cops?
 
2003-05-10 02:25:16 AM  
Jester

I think in general it's not illegal to possess alcohol if you're a minor, it's illegal to buy it, although I'm sure it depends entirely on what state/county/town you're in. Anyhow, putting age limits on consumer products is farking stupid. If you really want to regulate it come up with a license or something, you could test people according to their alcohol tolerance and so forth. And I don't care if this is unrealistic, it's just as unrealistic to expect minors not to drink, at least my solution makes more sense. Just as being 21 does not all of a sudden make you mature enough to handle alcohol, being under 21 does not render you incapable of handling its effects. By the way, I'm 22 and I don't drink so I don't have a bone to pick, except for the fact that stupid shiat like this pisses me off.
 
2003-05-10 02:25:58 AM  
Cop needs to find a real criminal. Someone providing alcohol to minors at a large state university??? MY GOD!
 
2003-05-10 02:26:13 AM  
Sidi, no one ever won a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry, did they?
 
2003-05-10 02:26:44 AM  
Creep Vassalage they have minor in posession citations everywhere I've heard of...they can cite you for it if you're just carrying, even if you're not intoxicated.
 
2003-05-10 02:27:44 AM  
Lanky_bits hmm. Arther Harden won in...29 I think for research that was pretty much wrong. Does that count?
 
2003-05-10 02:29:23 AM  
Yeah, it breaks down like this: it's legal to buy it, it's legal to own it and, if you're the proprietor of a hash bar, it's legal to sell it. It's legal to carry it, which doesn't really matter 'cause -- get a load of this -- if the cops stop you, it's illegal for this to search you. Searching you is a right that the cops in Amsterdam don't have.
 
2003-05-10 02:29:36 AM  
But what about 'Attempted murder'?
Why is attempted murder less of a crime than murder?
All it means is that the victim got lucky.
The attempter shouldn't get off easy just because they suck at murder.


There was a recent crime here in which a woman was attacked by a man who lived in her apartment building. He broke into her apartment and when she refused his sexual advances, he stabbed her repeatedly (including in the face), cut off one of her breasts, severed one of her limbs, and then threw her out of a window. A soda vending machine broke her fall, and she lived. It really bothers me that he will get attempted murder charges for this when he came just short of actually killing this young woman. She lived mainly because other residents saw her body being thrown out of the window and were able to respond quickly by calling for help, but now she will have to live with a horribly mutilated body. There is no good outcome in this case, but I would like to see this guy severely punished for his actions.
 
2003-05-10 02:29:44 AM  
Sorry, I was just quoting the Simpsons. I'm totally with you on the attempted murder thing
 
2003-05-10 02:30:09 AM  
Hard liquor is all about
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2003-05-10 02:30:47 AM  
Arther Harden won in...29
Sidi just won some coolness points for that response.
 
2003-05-10 02:31:25 AM  
ENTRAPMENT?
 
2003-05-10 02:31:54 AM  
Ku_No_Ichi unfortunately, I just happen to be in the process of writing a paper on early winners of the prize. I'll have forgotten him in another month.
 
2003-05-10 02:35:12 AM  
Ku_No_Ichi

Creep Vassalage
So the 40 year olds tring to make sex 'dates' with 12 year old girls on the intenet should walk too since they're really talking to hairy-butted 46 year old vice-cops?


Absolutely. You can't arrest people for having dispositions.

Sidi

Creep Vassalage so you think legally it should be fine if I pour cyanide in your coffee, as long as you decide not to drink it that day? If I shoot at you and miss?

There's a point where intent becomes pretty damn obvious.


The point isn't whether the intent is obvious or not, it's whether the intent ought to amount to a crime. In the cyanide and gun examples, I think that what you did should be illegal, but not because of intent. Rather, the fact that guns and cyanide are generally used for killing things renders them dangerous substances that ought to be permissible to use only in controlled circumstances.
 
2003-05-10 02:36:50 AM  
05-10-03 02:26:44 AM Sidi
Creep Vassalage they have minor in posession citations everywhere I've heard of...they can cite you for it if you're just carrying, even if you're not intoxicated.


That's in public though, I believe this kid had the alcohol in his dorm room.
 
2003-05-10 02:37:39 AM  
Wait, so the mere use of a gun amounts to a crime, not the fact that he was using it to try to KILL you? Bullshiat.
 
2003-05-10 02:42:44 AM  
Wait, so the mere use of a gun amounts to a crime, not the fact that he was using it to try to KILL you? Bullshiat.

Gee, I dunno about you but I'm more afraid of the bullet speeding out of the gun barrel at 1000 ft/sec than the guy's sinister intentions.
 
2003-05-10 02:43:36 AM  
The moral of this story is don't sell alcohol to minors if you're a stupid twat with an iq of less than 120 and sell it to people who are boviously COPS because only a COP would say "Oh btw, I'm under 21."

Of course the bastards would still have arrested him. They just would not have been able to prove that he intended to sell to minors. They'd jus thave brougth him up on charges of selling liquor without a license instead.

So I guess the moral is that if you're stupid enough to sell liquor via instant messenger or webpage, then you deserve to go to jail. Or something.
 
2003-05-10 02:44:49 AM  
So what if I'm pummeling you with my hands then? I'm crazed, I'm on acid or something, I am GOING TO KILL YOU with my fists. Somehow, you manage to break free and run off and call the police. I fully intended to kill you moments before, but I should only be charged with assault? Maybe I'm not getting what you're trying to say here.
 
2003-05-10 02:47:36 AM  
So what if I'm pummeling you with my hands then? I'm crazed, I'm on acid or something, I am GOING TO KILL YOU with my fists. Somehow, you manage to break free and run off and call the police. I fully intended to kill you moments before, but I should only be charged with assault? Maybe I'm not getting what you're trying to say here.

If you're pummeling me with your fists, that's assault. I'd be perfectly happy if you got charged for exactly what you did, which is beat the crap out of me. You didn't kill me, I'm still alive, so let's cut this imaginary "attempted murder" shiat out of the law books. Killing someone is criminal, it happens when you ACTUALLY kill someone, not when you intend to, even if those intentions are related to actions very similar to killing someone.
 
2003-05-10 02:48:24 AM  
Solve the problem: Reduce drinking age to 18 or 19 like most other western countries

It seems illogical that a 20 year old can be trusted to go to college, start a family, join the army and kill people, run a business, drive a car and everything else.....yet is not allowed to have a bit of a drink
 
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