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(BBC)   Political leader not standing in the UK general election sues for not being offered a place on the televised election debates   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 21
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2010-04-27 05:54:40 AM  
I hope the SNP don't go on. Less than a 10th of the population of the UK is from Scotland. Why should people be force to listen to the views of a political party I cannot vote for, even if I wanted to.
 
2010-04-27 05:56:41 AM  
I should also correct the subbie - the SNP are standing in the UK General Election. However, they are only standing in Scotland.
 
2010-04-27 06:00:22 AM  
Ivor Biggun of the Standing-at-the-back-dressed-stupidly-and-looking-stupid Party never gets any respect.
 
2010-04-27 12:11:04 PM  
The Chained Wolf: I should also correct the subbie - the SNP are standing in the UK General Election. However, they are only standing in Scotland.

But Alex Salmond - the SNP leader - isn't standing in his seat. (new window)
 
2010-04-27 12:37:46 PM  
I hope the SNP do go on. It would be amusing watching that fat fool standing around like a spare prick with nothing constructive to say. It won't happen though, they're just wasting the £50,000 of collections they've taken this week, like all the other money the Scottish government wastes hand over fist.
 
2010-04-27 12:48:32 PM  
He's just doing it for attention. There's no way this isn't just going to get thrown out. Why the hell should he be alongside Clegg/Brown/Cameron? Clegg summed it up:

"The broadcasters have made their decision, they've invited the leaders of the parties competing across the United Kingdom to be prime minister of this country.

"So, quite understandably, they haven't invited Alex Salmond."
 
2010-04-27 12:55:04 PM  
typically of the scottish, they have their own debate, but they want to hijack ours as well. the english are the only people who dont have their own debate, oh wait, we dont have our own parliament.
 
2010-04-27 01:19:34 PM  
Whitewabbit: typically of the scottish, they have their own debate, but they want to hijack ours as well. the english are the only people who dont have their own debate, oh wait, we dont have our own parliament.

Seriously, why do we need one? To increase democracy? The electorate would only be ~10m smaller than for Westminster, it'd just be another layer of needless bureaucracy.
 
2010-04-27 01:25:17 PM  
I do love the way the BBC tries to be so impartial even when it's part of the story itself. I know it's legally obliged to be impartial, but it still makes me laugh when BBC management go on (e.g.) The Today Programme or Newsnight and get savaged by the interviewer (who they employ) in the same way a politician would.
 
2010-04-27 01:28:09 PM  
Redscum: Whitewabbit: typically of the scottish, they have their own debate, but they want to hijack ours as well. the english are the only people who dont have their own debate, oh wait, we dont have our own parliament.

Seriously, why do we need one? To increase democracy? The electorate would only be ~10m smaller than for Westminster, it'd just be another layer of needless bureaucracy.

why do the scots, welsh and irish need one?

people should not be voting on bills that do not affect them. simple.
 
2010-04-27 01:29:44 PM  
james1878: I do love the way the BBC tries to be so impartial even when it's part of the story itself. I know it's legally obliged to be impartial, but it still makes me laugh when BBC management go on (e.g.) The Today Programme or Newsnight and get savaged by the interviewer (who they employ) in the same way a politician would.

There's a lot of different wings which act pretty much independently, I think David Mitchell described the BBC as "feuding factions" (news, entertainment, sports, etc) when talking about trying to get fake news from the BBC for his show (on the BBC). Though in this case I guess it is all News.
 
2010-04-27 01:35:07 PM  
Whitewabbit: Redscum: Whitewabbit: typically of the scottish, they have their own debate, but they want to hijack ours as well. the english are the only people who dont have their own debate, oh wait, we dont have our own parliament.

Seriously, why do we need one? To increase democracy? The electorate would only be ~10m smaller than for Westminster, it'd just be another layer of needless bureaucracy.
why do the scots, welsh and irish need one?

people should not be voting on bills that do not affect them. simple.


We don't need a whole new parliament to deal with that, we just need to make it so that MPs from a Scottish constituency can't vote in Westminster on issues which only effect England because the power to deal with those issues in Scotland has been devolved to the Scottish parliament.
 
2010-04-27 01:35:32 PM  
Whitewabbit: Redscum: Whitewabbit: typically of the scottish, they have their own debate, but they want to hijack ours as well. the english are the only people who dont have their own debate, oh wait, we dont have our own parliament.

Seriously, why do we need one? To increase democracy? The electorate would only be ~10m smaller than for Westminster, it'd just be another layer of needless bureaucracy.
why do the scots, welsh and irish need one?

people should not be voting on bills that do not affect them. simple.


Then sort out Parliament so only English MPs vote on English matters. An English parliament isn't necesary, simply because most of the things Westminster votes on effects England, at the least a far greater amount than affects NI, Wales or Scotland. It's a hard argument to make that English voices aren't heard in the UK Parliament.

I'll admit one thing which is completely unfair is that the Scottish Parliament can vote to scrap charges for Universities and prescriptions, something which the whole country (so mainly England) foots the bill for. Not to mention they're things we pay for.
 
2010-04-27 01:58:06 PM  
binnster: I hope the SNP do go on. It would be amusing watching that fat fool standing around like a spare prick with nothing constructive to say. It won't happen though, they're just wasting the £50,000 of collections they've taken this week, like all the other money the Scottish government wastes hand over fist.

The Scottish Government has done a reasonable job since the SNP has been in power. One of my main areas of concern, drug policy, has had a reasonable treatment. I think mainly because the SNP aren't competing for the middle-england Daily Mail crowd.

/Wife works in the Recovery field (drugs, alcohol and homelesness)
 
2010-04-27 02:05:48 PM  
Redscum: Whitewabbit: Redscum: Whitewabbit: typically of the scottish, they have their own debate, but they want to hijack ours as well. the english are the only people who dont have their own debate, oh wait, we dont have our own parliament.

Seriously, why do we need one? To increase democracy? The electorate would only be ~10m smaller than for Westminster, it'd just be another layer of needless bureaucracy.
why do the scots, welsh and irish need one?

people should not be voting on bills that do not affect them. simple.

Then sort out Parliament so only English MPs vote on English matters. An English parliament isn't necesary, simply because most of the things Westminster votes on effects England, at the least a far greater amount than affects NI, Wales or Scotland. It's a hard argument to make that English voices aren't heard in the UK Parliament.

I'll admit one thing which is completely unfair is that the Scottish Parliament can vote to scrap charges for Universities and prescriptions, something which the whole country (so mainly England) foots the bill for. Not to mention they're things we pay for.


and then vote to introduce top up fees in england.

dont think ive forgotten labour.
 
2010-04-27 02:06:04 PM  
Redscum: james1878: I do love the way the BBC tries to be so impartial even when it's part of the story itself. I know it's legally obliged to be impartial, but it still makes me laugh when BBC management go on (e.g.) The Today Programme or Newsnight and get savaged by the interviewer (who they employ) in the same way a politician would.

There's a lot of different wings which act pretty much independently, I think David Mitchell described the BBC as "feuding factions" (news, entertainment, sports, etc) when talking about trying to get fake news from the BBC for his show (on the BBC). Though in this case I guess it is all News.


I'm sure there are lots of office politics in an organisation that large, but most of the auto-flagellation seem to me to be over-compensation for the anti-BBC attacks by other parts of the media. I do like it though, especially if you contrast it with how the other broadcasters and the newspapers ignore or bury negative news about themselves.
 
2010-04-27 03:55:15 PM  
DuncanMhor: The Scottish Government has done a reasonable job since the SNP has been in power.

Erm, LOL.
 
2010-04-28 12:19:22 AM  
james1878: I do love the way the BBC tries to be so impartial even when it's part of the story itself. I know it's legally obliged to be impartial, but it still makes me laugh when BBC management go on (e.g.) The Today Programme or Newsnight and get savaged by the interviewer (who they employ) in the same way a politician would.

It's because we don't have guns.

/or something
 
2010-04-28 01:49:12 AM  
binnster: Erm, LOL.

Snappy. I gave you an example, where's yours?
LOL is not an argument
/yes it is
 
2010-04-28 02:02:15 AM  
"How dare you not invite me to present my views about not running for Prime Minister of Britain! I demand my air time to not speak about not running and not being allowed to debate about my position on not being involved in the government of this country?"

"Okay, fine. Name, please?"

"Mr. Throatwobbler-Mangrove. But it's spelt 'Luxury-Yacht.'"
 
2010-04-28 07:56:41 AM  
DuncanMhor: Snappy. I gave you an example, where's yours?
LOL is not an argument
/yes it is


The SNP are a minority government and as such have barely got anything done that they wanted to (which is probably just as well tbh). I personally haven't noticed a single positive change since they came to power. The only things I have noticed from them are their retarded ideas regarding the introduction of a minimum price for alcohol (which I had an argument about with a friend in the pub just last weekend; he ended up conceding that it would just make him poorer, the government richer and wouldn't curb his drinking one bit). I'm also unconvinced that they have an effective policy on drugs, given that all the best ones are still illegal, and all the worst ones are killing more people in Scotland now than before they came to power.

/that enough?
 
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