And you're laughing at the statements of a rabbi who practices REAL Judiasm...I find that interesting. Accusing a rabbi of anti-semitism are you now? Hmm.

05-10-03 02:16:26 AM Redfish365

And you're laughing at the statements of a rabbi who practices REAL Judiasm...I find that interesting. Accusing a rabbi of anti-semitism are you now? Hmm.

When did I say that? Gee, A Rabbi said it, it *must* be true!

05-10-03 02:14:43 AM Redfish365

Why the Izzie flag dude?
Are you an American?

Sorry, its an Israeli flag. And if I was American, is there something against the law about it?

Are you an American or an Izzie?

05-10-03 02:23:49 AM Redfish365

Are you an American or an Izzie?

I see your blind hatred makes it so you can't even say Israeli.

If you call yourself an American and you're flying the Izzie flag and bending over backwards to defend the bums you're a sad excuse for an American and the type this country could do without.

Why not proclaim your loyalty Al?
I'm curious as to where your alligence lies.

05-10-03 02:25:06 AM Redfish365

If you call yourself an American and you're flying the Izzie flag and bending over backwards to defend the bums you're a sad excuse for an American and the type this country could do without.

Oh thats right, I remember you now. How was the Friday night neoNazi get-together?

LOL man you are a piece of work. Enjoy yourself. I'm sure you will keep yourself up all night ranting and raving about how those evil jews who control everything are destroying the US, and the world.

Oh Al...the tired ADL tactic of calling all who oppose American aid to the Israeli cretins "neo-Nazis"...how boring. Got anything better?
And why not say where your heart is...America or Israel.
Pick one.

05-10-03 02:28:56 AM Redfish365

Oh Al...the tired ADL tactic of calling all who oppose American aid to the Israeli cretins "neo-Nazis"...how boring. Got anything better?

All who oppose? Please point that out, along with when I proclaimed that Rabbi anti-semetic... oh thats right, you can't.

Just because I show your true colors doesn't mean I've accused everyone of being a neo nazi. You sure fit the bill though.

BigAL with the Izzie flag in his profile won't admit where his heart is. I think THAT's classic.

I fit the bill according to some guy flying an Izzie flag who won't admit he's an American and who puts the interests of another nation above his own. Ok.
You fit the bill of someone we'd be better off without.

05-10-03 02:33:49 AM Redfish365

BigAL with the Izzie flag in his profile won't admit where his heart is. I think THAT's classic.

I guess when you got nothin else to back up your outrageous claims except anti-jewish propaganda and links to a rabbi (which makes it all true because a jew said it!) then you have to resort to pointless attacks such as you're doing right now.

05-10-03 02:36:51 AM Redfish365

I fit the bill according to some guy flying an Izzie flag who won't admit he's an American and who puts the interests of another nation above his own. Ok.

When did I say I was American?

You fit the bill of someone we'd be better off without.

Oh great, another blind ignorant anti-american statement like "love it or leave it!" What a surprise it comes from you.

Why so timid about saying loudly and proudly that you value Israel above and beyond America?

Redfish, I really fail to see your point.

Redfish: "If you call yourself an American and you're flying the Izzie flag and bending over backwards to defend the bums you're a sad excuse for an American and the type this country could do without."

Big Al: "Oh thats right, I remember you now. How was the Friday night neoNazi get-together?"

I'm sorry, but with what you just said, I think the neonazi remark was completely warrented.

Redfish: "Oh Al...the tired ADL tactic of calling all who oppose American aid to the Israeli cretins "neo-Nazis"...how boring. Got anything better?
And why not say where your heart is...America or Israel.
Pick one."

Yeah and you're making a lotta sence here too.

Well it looks like when you loose on the front of the actual discussion at hand, theres no choice but to resort to side-tracking retarded acusations.

Big Al obviously has no intention of continuing this, as you obviously will shift from argument to argument as you loose face. And when you're all out, you'll recycle them.

I suggest you go find a bulldozer to "hide" under.

Big Al, u don't even have any valid reference whatsoever..all u have are empty shiat we heard a lot from the media..i know u concocted most of ur 'points' by watching CNN and FOX..

by the way, the lenghty points Redfish write down is actually true..coz we have it in class over at Uni of Texas-Austin..

and we also have Rabbis protesting the independence of Israel every year in New York.

Oh well since "Dermeister" says I've "lost" that must be definitive, eh? Sure.
All I want to know is whether or not BigAl is an American.
Is that so tough to answer?
If you think anything I've said make me a neo-nazi you need to read up on them I think because you're painting with a very broad brush.

05-10-03 02:45:39 AM Marquisx

Big Al, u don't even have any valid reference whatsoever..all u have are empty shiat we heard a lot from the media..i know u concocted most of ur 'points' by watching CNN and FOX..

Ah yes, of course. Its all taken from the zionist media.

by the way, the lenghty points Redfish write down is actually true..coz we have it in class over at Uni of Texas-Austin..

Do you happen to have an English class at that University as well?

and we also have Rabbis protesting the independence of Israel every year in New York.

Good for them! You are allowed to protest anything you want in America. I'm sure there are Palestinians who protest against their leaders and their terrorist organizations actions... but of course lets not talk about those. Because we all know the jewish actions are evil and everyone elses are not.

Hey RedFish, WHERE DOES YOUR HEART LIE? DO YOU LIKE PIE OR BANNANA??? WHERE IS YOUR HEART WHERE??? THAT BANANNA PIC IN YOUR PROFILE SHOWS ME WHERE YOUR HEART IS. YOUR HEART IS WITH THE BANNANAS I FOUND YOU OUT. CLASSIC BANNANA!!!YOUR HEART LIES IN BANNANAS - YOUR HEART!!!

//Ends imitation

And by the way I know from another post that Big Al is israeli, or "izzy" as your nazi-ass calls them (YEAH I CALLED YOU A NAZI, AND YOU CALLING ISRAELIS "IZZIES" GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO. SO HOW ABOUT A WARM BOWL OF STFU OK?).

And I don't see how being on the israeli side of the conflict puts him against america. What are you trying to prove, you stupid farkface?

Ooooh. Dermeister gets violent...throws a hissy fit like a high-school girl. Don't hurt yourself there bud.

05-10-03 01:50:31 AM Redfish365

Accordingly, the first step toward getting freedom and justice in Palestine and reducing anti-American feelings abroad is to stop all U.S. financial aid to Israel, until there is a long-term solution in place.

Funny. Cut all aid to Israel but not to Egypt, right? Do you even know why Israel gets 3 Billion a year? And do you know how much Egypt gets, and why?

Again, everything you posted has turned history into a simpletons view on events.

And when I say "loose", it means this:

- You state an argument.
- Someone effectively counter-proofs it.
- You shift to another argument.

Of course its based on perspective since we all seem to think we are right... But given the above steps that seem to have been repeated endlessly, I said loose. Disect my sentences for the purpose of your sidetracking if you must, but theres no point... This discussion won't go anywhere, but its interesting to debate.

Actually BigAl...cut ALL foreign aid. The Constitution doesn't provide for it and it's a HUGH WASTE of American tax-dollars.

05-10-03 02:57:35 AM Redfish365

Actually BigAl...cut ALL foreign aid. The Constitution doesn't provide for it and it's a HUGH WASTE of American tax-dollars.

And the Constitution doesn't say anything about killing another human being. So that means I can do it.. right?

How can any Israeli feel proud when their country survives ONLY THROUGH THE COERCED gifts of our tax-dollars to their socialist economy? How in the world can we expect them to break their cycle of dependency?

Wow. Brilliant. Lets see...

Dermeister: "Well it looks like when you loose on the front of the actual discussion at hand, theres no choice but to resort to side-tracking retarded acusations."

RedFish: "Ooooh. Dermeister gets violent...throws a hissy fit like a high-school girl. Don't hurt yourself there bud."

What are you attempting to achieve now, demoing my arguments?

Whatever this is mildly entertaining;)

Actualy, if you read it properly, it does mention certain rights Al that would prohibit murder.

05-10-03 03:00:25 AM Redfish365

How can any Israeli feel proud when their country survives ONLY THROUGH THE COERCED gifts of our tax-dollars to their socialist economy? How in the world can we expect them to break their cycle of dependency?

Socialist economy? Hilarious. Israel doesn't need Americas money, but it sure doesn't mind. Show me a person who would turn down money offered to them and I'll show you bullshiat.

It's rather foolish to waste my time arguing essentially what's best for America with a Canadian and (according to Dermeister) an Israeli. What nonsense actually...

05-10-03 03:02:00 AM Redfish365

Actualy, if you read it properly, it does mention certain rights Al that would prohibit murder.

Since you love to research about how evil the jews are, go post links to back your comment up!

Redfish: "How can any Israeli feel proud when their country survives ONLY THROUGH THE COERCED gifts of our tax-dollars to their socialist economy? How in the world can we expect them to break their cycle of dependency?"

I actually agree, in the long run. Just keep in mind that the $ are needed for defence. End the conflict and such defence is no longer needed.

Whatever the case may be, I do agree.

05-10-03 03:03:26 AM Redfish365

It's rather foolish to waste my time arguing essentially what's best for America with a Canadian and (according to Dermeister) an Israeli. What nonsense actually...

Somebody who has a picture of Pat Bucanan in their profile is trying to say how they know whats best for America. Ironic?

That is correct, Dermeister. A constant state of war takes its toll on the economy of Israel.

Oh, and BTW, Redfish. Since you couldn't answer it before, Egypt gets 2 billion dollars, and Israel 3 billion, because of the peace accords signed by those 2 countries, from the US.

I'm glad we can agree Dermeister.
And BigAl...are you suggesting that Buchanan does NOT have America's best interests at heart? Well coming from one who denies that Israel's economy is socialist I guess I can understand...

Actually I live in NYC, you know, that place where those two planes hijacked by certain people flew into two certain twin towers and murdered a certain 3000 or so AMERICANS...

But thats beyond this discussion=p

BigAl.
All foreign aid should be stopped. I made that clear earlier. I am well aware that my taxes go to all sorts of countries. I don't like it. I like giving to Israel least of all.

Well Dermeister your profile is misleading then since it says your in Canada.

05-10-03 03:06:51 AM Redfish365

I'm glad we can agree Dermeister.
And BigAl...are you suggesting that Buchanan does NOT have America's best interests at heart?

If by "America" you mean the right wing Christian Conservatives, then yes, he has their best interests at heart.

Anyways I gotta sleep, its 3:10 am...

Good night, and I'm happy we could agree on something.

Any country leeching of another is BS, theres no denying that.

05-10-03 03:08:37 AM Redfish365

BigAl.
All foreign aid should be stopped. I made that clear earlier. I am well aware that my taxes go to all sorts of countries. I don't like it. I like giving to Israel least of all.

Of course, you hate giving those jews your money, even more than the terrorist sponsoring Saudis, for example. Figures.

BigAL you've got a persecution complex. Get over it.
And Dermeister I too am happy to agree with you.

05-10-03 03:11:33 AM Redfish365

BigAL you've got a persecution complex. Get over it.

You mean pointing out where your arguments are baseless and illogical? Yep, thats my complex.

Israeli or American Al?
You haven't picked one yet.

Oh, and BTW, if anyone has a persecution complex, it is a jew hater like yourself.

"Jew hater?"
Persecution complex again Al.

Still stuck on that huh. Haven't even bothered to respond to my previous comments about the ignorant articles you posted earlier, because you know aboslutely nothing except what you've read on those sites. Talking to you is getting boring, at least if you gave some effort to pretend you could have a true thought in your brain. Everything is a broken record with you.

05-10-03 03:14:53 AM Redfish365

"Jew hater?"
Persecution complex again Al.

Like a 5 year old who learns a new word. Calling somebody a jew hater is not persecutional. You have a problem with jews, as shown in your comments above. That gives you the persecution complex label you so deserve.

Hey Redfish...
First off, I agree with many of the other poster's. Whether you admit it or not, you're either a Nazi/White-Power/KKK/whatever member or do a very good impression of one. Just curious though, see, I am an Israeli American... I was born in New York, spent my summers in Tel Aviv and all of my family is from Tel Aviv.

I'm still an American. I have the passport. I don't feel like a disgrace. In fact, since I was brought up American, through the American school system, and am currently enrolled at a top American college, I feel that I am just as American as anyone else on the street.

That said, just a minor point, anyone can call themselves a rabbi and study an alternative version of a religion. Saying he practices "real Judaism" is ignorant and foolish. That's like pointing to a Televangelist and saying "See, that's real Christianity, and nothing else is correct" Its very short sighted. There are many sects of any religion. These 'Rabbis' are practicing one side (a very extreme side, at that) of a very broad spectrum.

Also, I see no reason for Big Al to declare his nationality as I did. Some information is private. You're not privy to it. Maybe you should spend more time in the whole spectrum of things you are privy to instead of your little corner.

Also, point of clarity to the readers here and perhaps to myself.

Redfish - I seem to remember you saying something about the government withholding a cure to cancer in another board and that *everyone knows it* Also, there were a number of other rediculous theories you posted. How can we take you seriously when you post that? For someone who seems convinced of his own intelligence, that's a really really stupid thing to do... I mean, can't you see it takes your credibility to zero?

Perhaps it's just a general lack of foresight that exists in many of your posts.