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(Huffington Post)   How badly is bank reform needed? Even Ben Stein agrees with Obama's plan   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 85
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2010-04-26 01:31:32 PM  
Tingle007: ad_rizzle: Tingle007: ever since expelled everyone thinks ben stien is a republican. He is not, he is a democrat and has been one for over 30 years. He campaigned for Al Franken and the DNC is on is top five on his friends list. Him agreeing with Obama is pretty damn common.

I'm serious look it up. ben Stien Hasn't been a republican since Reagan. he backed Gerald Ford whom he was a speechwriter for so hard that when he lost the primary to Reagan he went Democrat and never looked back. He has hated the Republicans ever since and I gotta agree with him. Ford >>>>>>>> Reagan/Bush/Bush2

Ever since he has campaigned for Democrats.


No, he hasn't. Here's the FEC repot for his campaign contributions. He did donate to Franken, but he also donated to Joe "You Lie!" Wilson, John McCain, Scott Brown, and the RNC many consecutive years. The last time I see him donating to the DNC is in 1992. Link (new window)
 
2010-04-26 01:31:57 PM  
soy_bomb: How badly is bank reform needed? Even Ben Stein agrees with Obama's plan.

FTFYS.

When my bank, USAA, is against the current bill, I know its bad.

/USAA rocks


Idiot. USAA is not against the bill. It's against one portion of the bill.
Quite simply, USAA is seeking to adjust one portion of the bill - commonly referred to as the Volcker Rule - to exclude insurance companies' investments. These investments are already strictly regulated by the states, and we prudently manage these portfolios. Link (new window)
 
2010-04-26 01:32:42 PM  
sweetmelissa31: To be fair, Obama's plan was quite intelligently designed.

/sorry


Don't be sorry, that fool deserves a century's worth of cock punches for that so called "documentary".
 
2010-04-26 01:36:19 PM  
Flappyhead: Don't be sorry, that fool deserves a century's worth of cock punches for that so called "documentary".

The apology wasn't for Ben Stein, it was for the bad joke.
 
2010-04-26 01:44:27 PM  
Kyosuke: I ask this because Ben generally agrees with whomever is signing his paycheck that day, regardless of the outcome.

Agreed. Who gives a damn what Ben Stein says about anything? You pay him, words come out. Crediting any of his words to him is like crediting Kermit for his fantastic work with the Muppets.

...and that's what I think about Ben Stein when he agrees with me.
 
2010-04-26 01:44:31 PM  
Two thoughts:

1) Ben Stein is a typical Nixonite: when the wind changes and your side is losing, change sides.

2) Ben Stein might actually believe his bullshiat, and might be a Republican who actually believes what they claim to believe in a smaller government and a defense against overwhelming power. Sadly, this is a leftist idea that shows the Republicans might be pushing America rightward, but with leftist ideals such as a fear of overwhelming organizations that excluded corporations. Meaning this whole meme about 'America is center-right' is fundamentally incorrect. America picks and chooses their political ideology, and it's always been left-leaning. The only thing the Right do is try to exempt corporations and basically rip off the Left while adapting their ideology.

And you don't have to go further than Sarah Palin and Michael Steele to see that Republicans can only mimic, never lead.
 
2010-04-26 01:48:22 PM  
Pretty sure Ben Stein is just trying to trick liberals into being against the bill by stating he is for it. Very clever Ben.
 
2010-04-26 01:52:03 PM  
Ben Stein is a giant douchebag. I don't know why people give Pete Wentz the grief that they should be throwing Ben Stein's way because he's far more deserving.
 
2010-04-26 01:52:51 PM  
Eapoe6: I think they called for "Banking Reform" in the press as a fix for the corruption problems that caused the stock market crash of 1907.

That "reform" turned out to be the Federal Reserve. A pre-Federal Reserve penny had the purchasing power of a dollar today.

This new "banking reform" gives the Federal Reserve more power. The Fed is a private company owned by who again? Who indeed? Dun, dun, duuuuuuH!


And here we have another economic illiterate who believes that Igoal of monetary policy supposed to primarily be about maintenance of an absolutely stable currency, rather than mostly to facilite increases in the standard of living.

If you have never had econ beyond the sophomore undergraduate level, perhaps you might consider learning a bit more about the topic before making silly pronouncements about it.
 
2010-04-26 01:53:35 PM  
DrakeLabatt: I don't know why people give Pete Wentz the grief that they should be throwing Ben Stein's way

gossip.whyfame.com

Look at him. See that? That's why.
 
2010-04-26 01:59:35 PM  
Flappyhead: sweetmelissa31: To be fair, Obama's plan was quite intelligently designed.

/sorry

Don't be sorry, that fool deserves a century's worth of cock punches for that so called "documentary".


Yeah I lost all faith in Ben Stein after that. I woulda followed him into Valhalla before then...
 
2010-04-26 02:01:21 PM  
pah!
just a desperate attempt to crawl over kristol so ben is only the world's second wrongest man.
 
2010-04-26 02:01:54 PM  
...I think that caused an aneurysm.
 
2010-04-26 02:13:29 PM  
Ben Stein believes the world was made in six days by an invisible magic man who lives in the sky.

This doesn't lead me to take ANYTHING he says very seriously.
 
2010-04-26 02:30:21 PM  
Sarsin: Tingle007: I'm serious look it up. ben Stien Hasn't been a republican since Reagan. he backed Gerald Ford whom he was a speechwriter for so hard that when he lost the primary to Reagan he went Democrat and never looked back. He has hated the Republicans ever since and I gotta agree with him. Ford >>>>>>>> Reagan/Bush/Bush2

Ever since he has campaigned for Democrats.

OMG He agreed with OBAMA! He's obviously a RINO. UNDER THE BUS WITH YOU BEN!

Rino suggests he's republican in name. He is not. You could call him a Dino because he is democrat by name registration campaigning and all but he is a creationist and pro lifer but he votes for, campaigns for, and donates to Democrats. He is pretty fiscally conservative but wants much higher taxes on the wealthy so you might call him a moderate or Clinton style Democrat but to call him a republican would be a lie.

You might be interested to know Bill Gates is also Democrat and donated heavily to Obama. Not all rich people are republicans and no matter how much Republicans love Israel most Jews vote Democrat by over 80% due to liberal values.
 
2010-04-26 02:31:32 PM  
NM I just saw the Joe wilson donations. well looks like he swings both ways
 
2010-04-26 02:53:40 PM  
Fire your bank.
Join a Credit Union.

/USAA ftW!
 
2010-04-26 03:00:56 PM  
apeiron242: Fire your bank.
Join a Credit Union.

/USAA ftW!


How is their online bill pay?
 
2010-04-26 03:02:17 PM  
Last One Left: If Ben Stein says it's a good idea, I'd put my money against it. He's like the Bill Kristol of economics (and biology).

This. Anybody that seeks proof, see:

Link (new window)
 
2010-04-26 03:29:03 PM  
jst3p: apeiron242: Fire your bank.
Join a Credit Union.

/USAA ftW!

How is their online bill pay?


Good. i set up most of my payments to pull from the account rather than push. It works very nicely. They will mail checks to someone on your behalf.

When you call them for help with anything they are great. The support team is helpful, proactive and in a good mood. Most support staff are hostile, lazy and offended to be asked to do something. USAA also does just about everything that can be done with money.

If you can join USAA, do it. i suspect most credit unions are similar in quantity and quality of service. The difference seems to be that credit unions aren't actively seeking to fark their members.
 
2010-04-26 03:37:12 PM  
I hate to say this but Ben Stein is not really an authority on anyhting. He's just a scholar of trivia. Other than that big religious suck job he gave a couple of years ago, what has he done?

Not that I give a damn about Obama's bank reform plan....seriously. I'm just saying Ben Stein shouldn't be of notable importance in the discussion.

/Writing speeches for Nixon does not make you intelligent.
 
2010-04-26 03:53:49 PM  
apeiron242: If you can join USAA, do it.

This. If they opened up membership eligibility to everyone, they'd run their competition out of business. Then again, if they had to deal with the same pool of customers that their competition did, they'd probably be no better.
 
2010-04-26 04:24:40 PM  
apeiron242: Fire your bank.
Join a Credit Union.

/USAA ftW!


Indeed. Until I joined my local FCU a couple years ago I was with Wells Fargo, and they always managed to find some little fee to charge. Or pay my scheduled monthly car payment BEFORE they credited my direct deposit paycheck, farking me over the in process. My local FCU, however, has never found a fee for me to pay beyond the rare overdraft, bill pay and cashier's checks are free, all FCU ATMs in my city are free (no matter which FCU owns them), and I get ATM fees refunded when I use a non-FCU ATM.
 
2010-04-26 04:32:38 PM  
Con_Authority: "How badly is bank reform needed? Even Ben Stein agrees with Obama's plan "


This is a very bad thing, considering that Ben Stein is wrong about pretty much EVERYTHING.

"There is no housing bubble"

"The market is only going up buy, buy, buy" (two weeks before the crash)

"The market is under valued buy now or regret it later" (at the very peak of the stock market)


Actually, nothing you are quoting goes against what he's saying now. When the financial market became a tad unsteady and all the Wall St. Wild Boys started divesting, THEN the housing market went to absolute shiat.
 
2010-04-26 04:45:51 PM  
JusticeandIndependence: Idiot. USAA is not against the bill. It's against one portion of the bill.

Jeez, using that logic, I am not against the bill, I am just against certain portions of it. Groan.
 
2010-04-26 05:49:02 PM  
Doomsday_SC: /Ben Stein is a hack as shown in his panel with Peter Schiff on Fox n' Friends circa 2006. Check it out: http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=47702

Good to see that someone mentioned this already. Ben Stein was claiming that there was no Housing Bubble while Peter Schiff was explaining in detail why it was a bubble. That video alone seriously hurts Stein's credibility.

/Smart people can be very stupid.
 
2010-04-26 07:00:18 PM  
And I'll say this again:

Ben Stein is a Nixonite, and will go with the winning side. That's the type of jackass he is.
 
2010-04-26 07:02:08 PM  
palelizard: Weaver95: Because that's what it's going to take for us to wake the f*ck up and fix things.

We could go all supervillain, build a death ray, threaten to blow up the world, etc so they'll all unite and realize they can get along.


We *could*? I'm not some Republic serial villain. Do you honestly think I would tell you of my masterstroke if there were even the slightest possibility of you affecting its outcome?

I did it thirty-five minutes ago.
 
2010-04-26 07:25:39 PM  
Wait - someone actually cares about Ben Stein's opinion? Really?
 
2010-04-26 07:40:29 PM  
Explained!
No Intelligence Required
 
2010-04-26 09:54:23 PM  
Ben Stein agrees? That's the kiss of death.
 
2010-04-27 03:27:32 AM  
Because what this country really needs is another layer of bureaucrats in DC jacking off all day (new window) and telling the rest of us how necessary they all are.
 
2010-04-27 03:41:34 AM  
Cisco-Kid: Relatively Obscure: If Ben supports it, I'd think about it a few more times before acting.

Even a broken clock is right every now and then.


If a broken clock says 12:00 and it's sunny outside, I don't assume it's noon.
 
2010-04-27 09:09:31 AM  
Crosshair: Good to see that someone mentioned this already. Ben Stein was claiming that there was no Housing Bubble while Peter Schiff was explaining in detail why it was a bubble. That video alone seriously hurts Stein's credibility.

I disagree. I don't think that video hurt his credibility in any way. He would have had to have some to hurt it.
 
2010-04-27 11:08:22 AM  
As noted previously, if Ben Stein agrees with the bill, it's not worth a damn.

Obama needs to step up and attempt to meet at least some of his campaign pledges.

The US is still fighting and paying for both pointless land wars in Asia, in fact Obama increased the Afghanistan one. The stimulus package did not stimulate jobs or add to infrastructure; it was essentially shiny new fire engines, grants to local governments and tax cuts. No equal opportunity for gays in military service. The health care reform law had neither a Medicare buy-in nor a public option. The proposed economic reform is too weak. Global warming got the Copenhagen solution: no binding agreement to compel US trading partners to adress GW in a meaningful way. And, Cheney and Bush are not being tried for their BS "enhanced interrogation techniques".

This record would embarass Gen. Dwight Eisenhower as being too right wing. If Obama won't stop being such a Conservative it's time for Democrats to consider someone like retired General Wesley Clark for 2012.
 
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