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2010-04-25 10:22:23 AM
wee:
If you like it, drink it. Hell with "what it goes with"...

This.

A mindful and carefully-planned pairing of food/beverage is a lovely thing, but one still should drink what one enjoys.
 
2010-04-25 10:28:42 AM
SuburbanCowboy: The obvious tag, the most misused tag in all of Farkistan.

The obvious tag should be used for things like "Study: Eating Fast Food 3 times a day may make you gain weight".

Why does this article have the obvious tag?


I suspect that subby may have been implying the Obvious outcome - i.e. the inevitable beer snob thread.

/watching & waiting for ideas @ new beers to try
 
2010-04-25 10:34:04 AM
42 by ten: Doric: I think Imperial and pizza covers this

I hope to dear lord you're not talking about something as complex and refined as an imperial stout, and pairing it with something as pedestrian as pizza...as a true lover of both, I'd weep dearly.


I'll ignore the fact that you called pizza pedestrian and just say I drank Jubel 2010 with pizza just a few weeks ago. I generally prefer something supper hoppy with pizza, but it really depends on what's on it.
/Homemade pizza is best.
 
2010-04-25 10:52:53 AM
SpearmintPup: /watching & waiting for ideas @ new beers to try

No! No new ideas! Anyone who drinks beers that I haven't had before is a pretentious douche.
 
2010-04-25 11:07:40 AM
dholway: No! No new ideas! Anyone who drinks beers that I haven't had before is a pretentious douche.

*chortle* Well played.

Every Sunday my household prepares "Purina Hangover Chow" for our buddies. Today's theme is The Manhattan Project (Beef Manhattan, Turkey Manhattan, Bourbon Manhattan...). I am likely to be monochromatic and marinate the chef with whatever I use to make the various gravy-vehicles (i.e. will likely use a porter or a stout to deglaze the beef-roasting pan). Then when it's time to eat, I might go hoppier. It will likely depend on what's poured and placed in front of me at that point.

In other words, I will pull a Justin Wilson.
 
2010-04-25 11:22:14 AM
SpearmintPup: Every Sunday my household prepares "Purina Hangover Chow" for our buddies. Today's theme is The Manhattan Project (Beef Manhattan, Turkey Manhattan, Bourbon Manhattan...). I am likely to be monochromatic and marinate the chef with whatever I use to make the various gravy-vehicles (i.e. will likely use a porter or a stout to deglaze the beef-roasting pan). Then when it's time to eat, I might go hoppier. It will likely depend on what's poured and placed in front of me at that point.

As I type this, I have a slab o' corned beef in a slow cooker with some potatoes and carrots cooking in a bath of Mayflower Porter. It should work because the beer itself isn't too hoppy. (Slow cooking and hops are a bad combo.)
 
2010-04-25 11:23:57 AM
What pairing beer may look like...

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2010-04-25 11:24:45 AM
SpearmintPup: dholway: No! No new ideas! Anyone who drinks beers that I haven't had before is a pretentious douche.

*chortle* Well played.

Every Sunday my household prepares "Purina Hangover Chow" for our buddies. Today's theme is The Manhattan Project (Beef Manhattan, Turkey Manhattan, Bourbon Manhattan...). I am likely to be monochromatic and marinate the chef with whatever I use to make the various gravy-vehicles (i.e. will likely use a porter or a stout to deglaze the beef-roasting pan). Then when it's time to eat, I might go hoppier. It will likely depend on what's poured and placed in front of me at that point.

In other words, I will pull a Justin Wilson.


10:20 AM, CDT, here. Havin' mah Sunday breakfast beer (no, I won't tell you what kind--unless you ask). And actually enjoying these comments--and, surprisingly, not much beer-snobbery going on in this thread. Thank you, fellow Farkers.

And I'm loving the (and making some of my own) Justin Wilson references. R.I.P. Can't be said too many times...gonna just scroll up here, a wee bit. See who started this madness...

Pardon me for a sec, SpearmintPup, while I ctl-f which Farkistania resident started this insanely glorious madness...brb...
 
2010-04-25 11:26:57 AM
oldebayer: Gecko Gingrich: I had a lady come in and ask, "What wine would you suggest with steamed crabs?" I quipped, "Pilsner." She insisted she wanted wine. I thought for a second, and came up with, "Sauv Blanc or Viongier." She frowned.

"I want a red."

She's obviously a spy. This is how James Bond identified the spy in From Russia With Love. He ordered a red chianti with fish.


wee: If you like it, drink it. Hell with "what it goes with"...

My fave advice came from Justin Wilson (late, great.) When asked what kind of wine you drink with whatever he was cooking, he said, "You drink the wine you GOT!"


Winnah! It was oldebayer! +1 internets
 
2010-04-25 11:37:05 AM
dholway: No! No new ideas! Anyone who drinks beers that I haven't had before is a pretentious douche.

You're supposed include some sort of beer snob character assassination piece like this:

"I only drink types of beer nobody but me has heard of, like this dark one I have now that cost $20 a bottle...A Himalayan sheep herder provides urine from the village's best goat that's filtered through the toupee of German monks before aging with a unique farm's Czech hops in barrels made of wood from Lusitania remnants. God, am I awesome!"
 
2010-04-25 11:37:47 AM
Btw, oldebayer and Spearmintpup , you two are now showing up in Technicolor in my Fark threads. Kudos, to both of you. And thanks for your posts!
 
2010-04-25 11:40:33 AM
Ugh. That was painful for me to type. That sort of paragraph is in my list of most-hated Fark cliches, right up there with people posting photos of their pit bull in a cute pose with a caption such as, "Wook at me cute widdow kiwwer!"

If I'm a "snob" because I like beer made from people who are experts at making beer rather than those who are experts at marketing, then I guess I'm guilty as charged. It beats being someone who thinks people who like good things are snobs.
 
2010-04-25 12:21:45 PM
Dire's Guide to Pairing Beer with Food

1. Acquire bottles of various types of beer that you find delicious
2. Next time you eat something, have one of the beers with it.
3. Remember whether the beer and food went well together or didn't go well together.
3a. If they did go well together, take note of how well they went together and why.
3b. If they did not go well together, don't pair them again.
4. Share your opinions with your friends, and ask them to share theirs with you. Try eating and drinking together next time; good company makes the experience 10x more enjoyable!
 
2010-04-25 12:59:05 PM
SpearmintPup: A mindful and carefully-planned pairing of food/beverage is a lovely thing, but one still should drink what one enjoys.

Also, beer has the magical ability to turn any food you eat into carrot chunks ...
 
2010-04-25 01:19:08 PM
Dire: Dire's Guide to Pairing Beer with Food

1. Acquire bottles a pint of Guiness various types of beer that you find delicious
2. Next time you eat something, have a pint of Guiness with it one of the beers with it.
3. Remember whether the beer and food went well together or didn't go well together.
3a. If they did go well together, take note of how well they went together and why.
3b. If they did not go well together, don't pair them again.
4. Share your opinions with your friends, and ask them to share theirs with you. Try eating and drinking together next time; good company makes the experience 10x more enjoyable!


FTFY
 
2010-04-25 01:33:35 PM
Ninja Wicked:


Ahem.
Did you forget a plural in there, in that FTFY, somewhere?? Or am I missing something?

/Class?
//Bueller??
 
2010-04-25 02:39:22 PM
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/mmmmm, hot beer...
 
2010-04-25 03:20:17 PM
SuburbanCowboy: The obvious tag, the most misused tag in all of Farkistan.

The obvious tag should be used for things like "Study: Eating Fast Food 3 times a day may make you gain weight".

Why does this article have the obvious tag?


Tentatively, I'd speculate that it was knowing that Barakku's response would be the Weeners even if it wasn't Barakku making that response, and that that would be the response of the median Farker, the second standard deviation Farker, and even the fifth quintile Farker.
 
2010-04-25 05:54:29 PM
fsbilly: /mmmmm, hot beer...

Pssh, that's not beer, that's sex in a canoe. :P

/cranky 'cause I'm sober
//to broke to buy beer for another week
 
2010-04-25 05:58:03 PM
My local watering hole, Russian River Brewing Co, does lots of food pairings around the Bay Area. They have an amazing array of different styles of beers, and varieties within styles.
They have their "American style" beers: Blond, Stout, Porter, Bitter, English-Style Bitter, a couple IPA's, and their Double-IPA Pliny the Elder.

They also have 6-12 different Belgian-style ales at any given time. These are a lot less hoppy (thus more malty, in general) and also use different Belgian yeasts, some of which produce different 'esthers' which can smell like bananas, pineapple, pear, peach..... They also barrel age some of these in wine barrels, and some of these also include addition of cherries or black currants. Their Beatification is "spontaneously fermented" and has some very unusual flavors, which you either love or hate. It is truly amazing the wide range of flavors in the Belgian-style ales.

Russian River has at least a dozen distinctly different flavors available for matching with different foods. If you have a chance to attend a food paring hosted by Vinnie Cilurzo, do yourself a favor and attend. Vinnie is one of the people involved with the new "Eataly" restaurant/brewery in New York, with Mario Batali and Dogfish Head' Sam Caglione.
 
2010-04-25 05:58:54 PM
Pilsners go with pancakes. That's what I know.
 
2010-04-25 06:20:54 PM
LegalizeThoughtCrime

Id like to try some not so hoppy Belgium Ales but every time I see one in the store it has coriander in it, yuck!
 
2010-04-25 06:21:07 PM
Psycoholic_Slag: Lambic Peche (peach) is my fave. I occasionally serve it in a champagne flute with breakfast for special occasions instead of mimosa.

That's funny because sometimes in the morning I drink my I.C. Light out of a wine glass just to switch it up.

But really, I prefer a nice IPA with something spicy brings out the intensity of the food and mellows it after a nice drag.

OTOH I prefer a stout with something already hearty, especially potatoes.

Considering grilling season is coming up. I think we need to conduct a poll to determine what the best beers are based on food.

For me -

Burgers - Lager
Fish - Wheat ale
Chicken - Pale ale
Steak - Stout

Of course this all depends on seasoning, but as a general rule it's what I tend to go by.

/beer over wine for every meal.
//except pastas.
 
2010-04-25 06:38:34 PM
Impudent Domain: LegalizeThoughtCrime

Id like to try some not so hoppy Belgium Ales but every time I see one in the store it has coriander in it, yuck!


I wish I had some good suggestions for you, but I am more of a stout/porter and D-IPA drinker. I always try each new Belgian variety at Russian River when it first comes out, but they tend to be too sweet for my taste - but everybody has their own tongue, your mileage may vary.

Hopefully some nice Farker will give you some helpful suggestions of commonly available Belgian-style ales.

If you are ever in the Bay Area, do yourself a favor and get a sampler at Russian River. Most of their varieties are not bottled, and their bottles are not widely distributed. I have seen as many as 14 different Belgian-style ales at one time there.
 
2010-04-25 07:28:57 PM
Drink what you like. If you like some beers with some foods, keep on keeping on. If you drink Bud Select with everything, keep on keeping on. If you swear Guiness is good, get the fark out of my house.
 
2010-04-25 08:11:03 PM
Impudent Domain: LegalizeThoughtCrime

Id like to try some not so hoppy Belgium Ales but every time I see one in the store it has coriander in it, yuck!


Look for Chimay with the blue label. It is strong and delicious. I've found it goes really well with a meatball parmigiana sub. But don't tell that to the monks who brew it, they'd probably think I was crazy.
 
2010-04-25 08:13:40 PM
Ninja Wicked: Dire: Dire's Guide to Pairing Beer with Food

1. Acquire bottles a pint of Guiness
2. Next time you eat something, have a pint of Guiness with it

FTFY


You sure dumbed it down and eliminated most of the fun in it. If that's what you mean by "fixed" then that's unfortunate. Drinking Guinness with everything is really boring.
 
2010-04-25 08:16:58 PM
Impudent Domain: LegalizeThoughtCrime

Id like to try some not so hoppy Belgium Ales but every time I see one in the store it has coriander in it, yuck!


There's also a really good Belgian style that's brewed in California-- Brother David's Triple Abbey Style Ale. They used to carry single bottles of it at the liquor store closest to my house. Not sure why they don't anymore, but it makes me sad.
 
2010-04-26 01:19:23 AM
Mr. Right: Ow My Balls: Mr. Right: Life is good.

Seconded!

But I haven't figured out pairing yet. I like various beers and wines in and of themselves, and I like a lot of food too. It's all good to me. I typically have a couple of drinks first to savor the beverage as a work of art, then dig in and enjoy food.

If that's what works for you, do it. 30-40 years ago, when French wines ruled, the snobbery that went with it was almost insufferable. It was a way that someone with way too much time on their hands could try to demonstrate their superiority over the proletariat by knowing which obscure chateau went most perfectly with which tediously prepared dish. The truth was that, for a vast majority of folks, they couldn't tell the difference between a 1967 Haut Brion and MD 20/20 if they watched it being poured from the bottle.

Individual tastes vary. Suit yourself. When I throw a dinner party, I give a "food tour" of what's on the menu for the various courses, then allow folks to decide what they'd like to drink. I even have one very good friend who's an alcoholic and drinks (gasp!) water! And only coffee with dessert! And yet, he survives!


Not much of an alcoholic then, is he?
 
2010-04-26 01:24:34 AM
Dire: Ninja Wicked: Dire: Dire's Guide to Pairing Beer with Food

1. Acquire bottles a pint of Guiness
2. Next time you eat something, have a pint of Guiness with it

FTFY

You sure dumbed it down and eliminated most of the fun in it. If that's what you mean by "fixed" then that's unfortunate. Drinking Guinness with everything is really boring.


Drinking guinness is really boring.

FTFY
 
2010-04-26 09:58:49 AM
42 by ten: pdxbarista: 42 by ten: Doric: I think Imperial and pizza covers this

I hope to dear lord you're not talking about something as complex and refined as an imperial stout, and pairing it with something as pedestrian as pizza...as a true lover of both, I'd weep dearly.

I'll ignore the fact that you called pizza pedestrian and just say I drank Jubel 2010 with pizza just a few weeks ago. I generally prefer something supper hoppy with pizza, but it really depends on what's on it.
/Homemade pizza is best.

In retrospect I maybe unfairly slammed pizza, because that shiat really is the shiat. However, I cannot think of a single combination of ingredients that would lend to pairing well with an imperial stout. A good red or IPA is what pizza ought to go with, or maybe even a blonde.


Wheat dough crust, darkest olive oil one can find, caramalized/roasted red peppers, onions, portabello and porcinis with bite sized pieces of marinated beef tenderloin with some darker, nuttier cheese, something smoked, like smoked Gouda.


/could work.. maybe
//thought I'd take a stab at it
 
2010-04-26 10:04:12 AM
Also, rather unexpectedly, samadams.com has a great and quite extensive section on pairing ideas. Go to World of Beer -> Food and Beer. Thank me later :)
 
2010-04-26 05:57:49 PM
wee: If I ever go to a place where my buddy has "paired" the beer with the food, I'm swiping a couple beers and leaving. Anyone coming over who expects beer to be paired with my food gets a kick to the babymaker.

You do mean you are going to kick their wives right?

Aw, come on, pairing beer with food isnt that bad an idea. Sure they get pretentious but you know that some foods don't taste so good with beer, at least certain beers. I dont really want to eat cheesecake and have an ipa at the same time, for example.
 
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