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2010-04-22 10:37:12 PM
No problem. If Jesus thinks he is truly righteous, he's miracle his ass out of prison.
 
2010-04-22 10:41:06 PM
Obnox: Satan laughs.

Satan
Laughs
As
You
Eternally
Rot
 
2010-04-22 10:44:53 PM
Thisbymaster: Stopping a mass murderer is wrong? It is like jailing the man who killed Hitler.

slashingtheseats.net

Don't bring Cap into this.
 
2010-04-22 10:47:43 PM
The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.
 
2010-04-22 10:49:50 PM
eggrolls: Thisbymaster: Stopping a mass murderer is wrong? It is like jailing the man who killed Hitler.



Don't bring Cap into this.


Um, that's not Chris Evans.
 
2010-04-22 10:49:51 PM
Ahh christians and abortion. First off I should point out original sin and how all unbaptized children go straight to hell, burning merrily in unending torment while good Christians rise into heaven and sit at god's feet.

Goddamn I love the idiocy in your religion, seriously some of the shiat in the christian holy texts makes the story of Xenu seem like a historical narrative.

There's something nice and easy about taking on Abortion is a sin as a major issue. Its a nice 'feel good' morality that doesn't really require effort or much action on your part to try to prevent.

Hell its not something like fighting to prevent rape, spousal abuse, torture, genocide anything like that. Nope all you need to do is keep writing letters, complaining about it on TV and maybe one day you'll get the law changed!

Then there's the whole absolute arrogance associated with define your morality as right and subjecting EVERYONE to your morality. Again let us go back to that WONDERFUL example of pedophile priests. Where was the outrage? Now I know most christian flavors are against homosexuality and everyone in general is against raping children. So can we explain why our 'family values' politicians are making more of a stink about making abortions harder to get than some sort of oh I don't know legislation or condemnation?

If we look at modern christianity in the US as a whole strictly in the light of preposed legislation you get a really funny skewing of what they view as important.

So in short: I'll keep posting signs in front of churches that have any sort of anti-abortion signs displays whatever which usually say, "The FBI says 1 in 3 women will be raped in their lifetime. Why is abortion a greater crime?" or "Why is abortion a greater sin than god's servants raping the children whose souls they are supposed to guide?"

Goddamn pathetic religion.



Well, put it this way... the church sex scandals are roughly in line (recently) or lower than the abuse rates of schools and other institutions. The way they have handled that in the past is completely flawed, but it's not completely widespread across the whole religion.

You're kinda just writing off a large majority of Christians on the account of a bunch of assholes. Yes, sure there are a lot more assholes that get a lot more time, but churches do help a lot gathering food for the homeless, helping others, and most of the people in them are not complete dickwads. I understand your frustration, but its just a far jump to completely decry religion altogether.

That said, I look to Scott Roeder living out the rest of his miserable pathetic existence only to probably burn in hell. If I believed in hell.
 
2010-04-22 11:05:34 PM
Mija: The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.

Right because his patients didn't seek him out he went on an abortion spree.
 
2010-04-22 11:07:20 PM
Isitoveryet: Mija: The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.

Right because his patients didn't seek him out he went on an abortion spree.


Shhhh, his heart isn't really in it.
 
2010-04-22 11:09:53 PM
captain_heroic44: When this guy was first arrested, he complained about "deplorable" conditions in his jailing. I just laughed. I think he actually believed all the right-wing propaganda about how easy prisoners have it in America. Now he's there, and he's realizing it sucks. We treat our prisoners like shiat. Our prisons are third-world dungeons, and he's just now figuring that out.
The best part is, I think he actually thought he would get away with it. He really thought the jury would nullify, and set him free. In his mind, I think it was a choice between getting out of jail free, or spending a few years in a cushy cell with cable TV and free internet access until a liberal activist judge let him out on a technicality.
He's getting a well-earned lesson in the reality of how cold our system really is. Sweet justice.


You know he's not too tightly wrapped when you realize that he really thought he'd be allowed to get away with a cold-blooded murder.

/Insanity defense!
 
2010-04-22 11:15:00 PM
Mija: The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.

i18.photobucket.com
No, they shouldn't.
 
2010-04-22 11:17:26 PM
Please, please, PLEASE Kansas Department of Corrections... Give the BTK killer a new cellmate- NOW!!
 
2010-04-22 11:26:05 PM
Fine. Bring the guy back to life and you can go home.
 
2010-04-22 11:26:36 PM
filth: Weaver95: y'know - maybe he shouldn't MURDERED SOMEONE then....? don't want to spend a long time in jail, then don't kill people.

The same crime in Texas might have carried a much shorter jail term.


I don't know. Sometimes the Green Mile seems so long.
 
2010-04-22 11:27:34 PM
didn't pick through the last 3 pages, so sorry if it's been said, but...

JUST GET YOUR GOD TO SAVE YOU. YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT HATES BABYKILLERS AND LOVES THOSE WHO KILL BABYKILLERS. UNLESS YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT THAT PART. IN WHICH CASE, LOLOLOL
 
2010-04-22 11:45:32 PM
jso2897: Mija: The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.


No, they shouldn't.


i like this response to a troll. get it right out there.
 
2010-04-22 11:59:09 PM
Jake Steed: olddinosaur 2010-04-22 07:19:09 PM

"Support Right to Life---Or I'll kill you!"

\\\ obvious?
----------------------

I think his mindset was more "Stop killing defenseless babies or I'll kill you".

/One mans terrorist is another mans hero....
//learned that from my libtard friend when he was justifying terrorists blowing up buses in Israel.


So, you're not pro-life, but you're pro-death?

You dont' give a shiat about babies after they are born.

Oh, and your man Roeder - not pro-life - he's a killer.

Hawkeye-X
 
2010-04-23 12:30:43 AM
Mija: The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.

Some of the babies this guy saved will become abortion doctors. What now?
 
2010-04-23 12:31:47 AM
Really?

lh3.ggpht.com
 
2010-04-23 12:53:05 AM
Redbeardo:
Well, put it this way... the church sex scandals are roughly in line (recently) or lower than the abuse rates of schools and other institutions. The way they have handled that in the past is completely flawed, but it's not completely widespread across the whole religion.


I'm aware of the study. I also can point out the number of times I was told in public school that if I have a problem with an adult I can go find a police officer, or school administrator or a doctor's office to get help. Having only set foot in a church 3 times (and had an interesting argument with a Jesuit) I have no idea if there was ever a similar focus on teaching children that in churches, or that everyone just operated on the basis that priests are held to higher expectations for their behavior.

Never mind that the kneejerk finger pointing from the Vatican has reduced my already laughingly bad opinion of the church even lower.

You're kinda just writing off a large majority of Christians on the account of a bunch of assholes. Yes, sure there are a lot more assholes that get a lot more time, but churches do help a lot gathering food for the homeless, helping others, and most of the people in them are not complete dickwads. I understand your frustration, but its just a far jump to completely decry religion altogether.

One condemns an individual for their actions.

One condemns a group of people for their inaction.


And the examples are literally ENDLESS for this. Ranging from that girl who was gang raped outside her school dance by people stopping to watch all the way up to most of the genocides committed. In every group that sat around there were good moral religious people whose faith taught them about standing up against evil, tyranny and hatred. Yet they didn't.

You are free to believe in whatever you damn well choose. But I'm free to judge you and your beliefs and ultimately write you off from humanity every time I see you sitting quietly. Wrapping yourself in faith and the moral certainty derived from being told your entire life that 'you are right' like a blanket while ignoring terrible things happening around you that you could take a stand against to help fix.

That's the source of my fundamental hatred of religion. You either want a better world and act on it, or you are happy with the way it is. Praying sure as fark doesn't do anything.

And the fuel for my hatred is crediting God for miracles. There are no miracles from a divine source, the only miracles are what people create. To attribute hard work, skill, dedication and luck to an outside source belittles all of humanity's achievements.


I am a person, I'm defined by my fears. The only thing I hope for in life, ultimately is for an end to it. My only driving force is to see what I can create before it ends be it good, bad, useful, pathetic, horrible or wonderful. There is no moral certainty, I fully realize I am capable of anything if given the right stress. And I'd like to think that because I accept all of these things I have the right to call myself human.

/not you in particular


And yeah, I'm a wee bit cranky today avoiding pain meds and alcohol when either would probably help a hell of a lot :P
 
2010-04-23 01:16:46 AM
Ok, seriously I don't understand this bit, so these Fundy Tea Bagger types are all anti abortion.......OK so be that way, but then when the kid is born, they are not willing to feed or clothe or pay the taxes that will insure decent schools and whatever this gift from God may need.........isn't this all about control, making sure that everyone does everything the way it is right for you? (regardless of weather you do it that way or not) If they cared they would gladly support the kids, and they wouldn't vote for dropping bombs on unaborted feotes who may have a darker complexion.........I swear the logic defies me.
 
2010-04-23 01:21:31 AM
INTERTRON: bejameco: jj325: Normally I'm not a fan of people getting raped in prison, but in this case I'll make an exception

You act like he's a baby killer or something.


No, that's Stupak.


Christ, I love how revisionist history is getting started sooner and effing sooner.

Stupak was, for many many MANY years (as long as I've been cognizant of who he was), anti-choice/pro-life, pick your poison. But he was a moderate Democrat in a really effing big district, and so the Dems let that slide. He got his damn no-abortions-covered promise via an executive order. Yeah, that's right... he was fighting to PROHIBIT abortions from being covered. Lord knows if a woman has a miscarriage or needs an abortion for medical reasons if she's gonna have to pay for it out of pocket or not. Who cares.

He also (apparently, just learned this yesterday) wasn't raising money for the next election which is a sign he was thinking of stepping down already. He also actually worked his way up to his position from community college through state police and a law degree somewhere in there. So very much the definition of a self-made man ya'll like to put on a pedestal. But what the hell ever, if you idiots want to rally around an effigy of him, be my effing guest.

Goddamn idiots. I'm not even the biggest fan of Stupak, but he sure as f--k has my sympathies (misinformation and mob mentality gets my seething rage).
 
2010-04-23 01:26:20 AM
StreetlightInTheGhetto: INTERTRON: bejameco: jj325: Normally I'm not a fan of people getting raped in prison, but in this case I'll make an exception

You act like he's a baby killer or something.


No, that's Stupak.

Christ, I love how revisionist history is getting started sooner and effing sooner.

Stupak was, for many many MANY years (as long as I've been cognizant of who he was), anti-choice/pro-life, pick your poison. But he was a moderate Democrat in a really effing big district, and so the Dems let that slide. He got his damn no-abortions-covered promise via an executive order. Yeah, that's right... he was fighting to PROHIBIT abortions from being covered. Lord knows if a woman has a miscarriage or needs an abortion for medical reasons if she's gonna have to pay for it out of pocket or not. Who cares.

He also (apparently, just learned this yesterday) wasn't raising money for the next election which is a sign he was thinking of stepping down already. He also actually worked his way up to his position from community college through state police and a law degree somewhere in there. So very much the definition of a self-made man ya'll like to put on a pedestal. But what the hell ever, if you idiots want to rally around an effigy of him, be my effing guest.

Goddamn idiots. I'm not even the biggest fan of Stupak, but he sure as f--k has my sympathies (misinformation and mob mentality gets my seething rage).


You do realize the executive order was a circle jerk right?

"The Act maintains current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly-created health insurance exchanges."

The order meant absolutely NOTHING. It said "we're going to keep following the law of the land". It was just a PR stunt for the uninformed.
 
2010-04-23 01:26:44 AM
Mija: The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.

Now the jr. trolls get out of day care to post?
 
2010-04-23 01:28:13 AM
spi13: Ok, seriously I don't understand this bit, so these Fundy Tea Bagger types are all anti abortion.......OK so be that way, but then when the kid is born, they are not willing to feed or clothe or pay the taxes that will insure decent schools and whatever this gift from God may need.........isn't this all about control, making sure that everyone does everything the way it is right for you? (regardless of weather you do it that way or not) If they cared they would gladly support the kids, and they wouldn't vote for dropping bombs on unaborted feotes who may have a darker complexion.........I swear the logic defies me.

If there was logic behind it (and if the REAL cause was stopping abortions) they would be very much in favor of decent sex-ed and freely available contraception.

Punishing the woman makes more sense.

For the record, there are 'adopt instead of abort!' groups out there. Some of them have 'pregnancy testing centers' as fronts. There are also some horrific stories about girls/women who end up deciding to have the kid and give it to someone through these groups to adopt. Lot of broken promises, infants snatched from the birth mother asap, that sort of thing. I'm not about to Google, though. Need to sleep.

You might also want to find "A pro-lifer repents" or something along those lines (it was a Craigslist post, and is on the best-of) along with an article that surveyed abortion providers about pro-lifers who came in for abortion services. Even as they're stepping into the effing clinic they were protesting a day or week before, they still often don't 'see the light' and think that they're still better than the other women there. Some of them pick up the protesting right where they left off. The Craigslist post is from an exception who did come around.
 
2010-04-23 01:30:54 AM
StreetlightInTheGhetto: spi13: Ok, seriously I don't understand this bit, so these Fundy Tea Bagger types are all anti abortion.......OK so be that way, but then when the kid is born, they are not willing to feed or clothe or pay the taxes that will insure decent schools and whatever this gift from God may need.........isn't this all about control, making sure that everyone does everything the way it is right for you? (regardless of weather you do it that way or not) If they cared they would gladly support the kids, and they wouldn't vote for dropping bombs on unaborted feotes who may have a darker complexion.........I swear the logic defies me.

If there was logic behind it (and if the REAL cause was stopping abortions) they would be very much in favor of decent sex-ed and freely available contraception.

Punishing the woman makes more sense.

For the record, there are 'adopt instead of abort!' groups out there. Some of them have 'pregnancy testing centers' as fronts. There are also some horrific stories about girls/women who end up deciding to have the kid and give it to someone through these groups to adopt. Lot of broken promises, infants snatched from the birth mother asap, that sort of thing. I'm not about to Google, though. Need to sleep.

You might also want to find "A pro-lifer repents" or something along those lines (it was a Craigslist post, and is on the best-of) along with an article that surveyed abortion providers about pro-lifers who came in for abortion services. Even as they're stepping into the effing clinic they were protesting a day or week before, they still often don't 'see the light' and think that they're still better than the other women there. Some of them pick up the protesting right where they left off. The Craigslist post is from an exception who did come around.


*shrugs* They've been indoctrinated by their parents and community since birth that they are right. What the hell do you expect?
 
2010-04-23 01:31:06 AM
Tennozan: Mija: The man stopped a mass murdering baby killer. He's a hero. He should go free. The abortion doctors should be arrested and jailed.

Now the jr. trolls get out of day care to post?


Well the ones that weren't aborted. We should be thankful that the ranks were thinned a bit.
 
2010-04-23 01:35:54 AM
Ashelth: StreetlightInTheGhetto: INTERTRON: bejameco: jj325: Normally I'm not a fan of people getting raped in prison, but in this case I'll make an exception

You act like he's a baby killer or something.


No, that's Stupak.

Christ, I love how revisionist history is getting started sooner and effing sooner.

Stupak was, for many many MANY years (as long as I've been cognizant of who he was), anti-choice/pro-life, pick your poison. But he was a moderate Democrat in a really effing big district, and so the Dems let that slide. He got his damn no-abortions-covered promise via an executive order. Yeah, that's right... he was fighting to PROHIBIT abortions from being covered. Lord knows if a woman has a miscarriage or needs an abortion for medical reasons if she's gonna have to pay for it out of pocket or not. Who cares.

He also (apparently, just learned this yesterday) wasn't raising money for the next election which is a sign he was thinking of stepping down already. He also actually worked his way up to his position from community college through state police and a law degree somewhere in there. So very much the definition of a self-made man ya'll like to put on a pedestal. But what the hell ever, if you idiots want to rally around an effigy of him, be my effing guest.

Goddamn idiots. I'm not even the biggest fan of Stupak, but he sure as f--k has my sympathies (misinformation and mob mentality gets my seething rage).

You do realize the executive order was a circle jerk right?

"The Act maintains current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly-created health insurance exchanges."

The order meant absolutely NOTHING. It said "we're going to keep following the law of the land". It was just a PR stunt for the uninformed.


Fine, say it's a circle-jerk. How does one representative seriously threatening to derail the whole damn bill because of the abortion coverage issue mean he's EFFING PRO-CHOICE? You can say he didn't have backbone re: executive order, whatever. I still don't see how him standing up and putting himself in the damn national spotlight fighting for abortions to not be covered equals effing baby killer! It's not like his district wouldn't re-elect him anyway if he didn't!

And you know what? Private insurance often covers abortion in case of medical emergency. Or treatment after miscarriage, for that matter. Can you tell me that after this executive order those private insurance plans on the free exchange markets are gonna cover those? Or that it's even going to be possible to get any insurance that covers abortion, exchange or no? Or are policies just going to be written according to the exchanges, even if it's not purchased through one, because it's easier to just have one version?

Christ, I'm using exclamation marks. I'm going to sleep. Feel free to believe whatever f--king reality you want. There is a real one, maybe ya'll will find it someday.
 
2010-04-23 01:38:35 AM
Ashelth: *shrugs* They've been indoctrinated by their parents and community since birth that they are right. What the hell do you expect?

Heh, you know, the funny thing is that no matter how much the Catholic Church goes on and on, there's still pro-choice Catholic groups and any suburban congregation on a Sunday will show you that everyone except 1 or 2 families is either not having sex or they're using birth control.

I'm surprised the bishops haven't asked the fundies for advice on indoctrination for the 21st century.
 
2010-04-23 01:42:47 AM
Bill O'Reilly segment of a 14 year old girl forced by her parents (driven to Kansas from Maryland) to have a late term abortion at George Tiller Abortion Mill in Wichita Kansas
 
2010-04-23 01:45:09 AM
Ashelth 2010-04-23 12:53:05 AM

(kittenhug)
(kittenhug)
(kittenhug)
(comforting purr)
 
2010-04-23 01:54:39 AM
He probably wanted to be a martyr to his cause, but turns out that instead of the perpetual righteous high he expected, actual sacrifice sucks.
 
2010-04-23 01:55:11 AM
 
2010-04-23 01:55:41 AM
Why did I click on the Bill O'Reilly link?

BRB brainbleach.

Enjoy your AIDS Scott Roeder.
 
2010-04-23 02:05:40 AM
zefal: Gianna Jessen Abortion Survivor (new window)

wtf is this spam?

someone survived an abortion with mental and physical problems resultant. I fail to see the point. Maybe it'd have been a bit better linking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianna_Jessen which is the woman's wikipedia link.

Reality = people can get abortions. It's not a bad thing. saves us from a lot of rednecks, from people raising kids when they aren't ready, from health situations which can cause death to the woman, and from having more duggars families who are building their own little christian military army to be arrested. Think of it this way. If we had aborted the folks who are anti-abortion, the world would absolutely be a better place right now.

/tired of fundamentalists/christians/both pushing anti-abortion agendas.
//go stock up on twinkies or whatever other apocalypse you probably believe is 2012
 
2010-04-23 02:08:54 AM
zefal: Bill O'Reilly segment of a 14 year old girl forced by her parents (driven to Kansas from Maryland) to have a late term abortion at George Tiller Abortion Mill in Wichita Kansas

So that makes it OK to murder someone else?
 
2010-04-23 02:32:48 AM
Roeder said that the judge's imposition of a $20 million bond "along with a suggestion that I might enact 'more' violence if I make bond demonstrates heightened disregard for the presumption of my innocence

There sure are a lot of people in this country who don't understand what "presumption of innocence" and "innocent until guilty" mean. Those concepts only apply to the actual trial. I mean, by this guy's logic, being arrested disregards his presumption of innocence. Being put on trial disregards his presumption of innocence. Why would you arrest someone who was presumed innocent? Why would you try someone presumed innocent?
 
2010-04-23 02:34:44 AM
Here is my solution to the abortion issue:

Everyone gets to vote on it, yay or nay.

If you have voted that NO, abortion should not be legal, you get put on a special list, and as the need arises, unwanted children who would otherwise be in state care are sent to you, and are automatically considered legally yours. At least one child goes to everyone on that list, assuming the number of children is greater than then number of people on that list. Even if the kid is a violent crack baby, or physically or mentally handicapped, you then have to take care of that child and pay for it on your own dime. If you neglect it you get charged criminally.

Abortion remains legal until the NAY votes are greater than the YAYs. However, this vote repeats itself every few years, so that we get to keep filling up the registry with people we can send the unwanted babies to.
 
2010-04-23 02:52:17 AM
Spread thine ass-cheeks unto the LORD.

Jesus ain't gay, but he's sure glad you are!
 
2010-04-23 03:41:03 AM
StreetlightInTheGhetto: Ashelth:
And you know what? Private insurance often covers abortion in case of medical emergency. Or treatment after miscarriage, for that matter. Can you tell me that after this executive order those private insurance plans on the free exchange markets are gonna cover those? Or that it's even going to be possible to get any insurance that covers abortion, exchange or no? Or are policies just going to be written according to the exchanges, even if it's not purchased through one, because it's easier to just have one version?

Christ, I'm using exclamation marks. I'm going to sleep. Feel free to believe whatever f--king reality you want. There is a real one, maybe ya'll will find it someday.


Alrighty I'll explain this for the slow of thinking:


The Hyde Amendment has been passed yearly I believe since 1976, ya know in reaction to Roe V Wade? The Hyde Amendment ONLY to federally funded health insurance plans. Which means this affect federal employees, service personnel, medicare/medicaid and federal prisoners for ELECTIVE abortions not stemming from rape or incest. So, under all federal insurance plans a survival abortion IS COVERED. It has been this way since 1976!!!!!

In response to the Hyde Amendment 17 states have supplied supplemental money to help cover abortion costs. But I'm sure you knew that because you're deeply in touch with reality?

The executive order affirms that the Hyde Amendment applies when it is the law of the land.

Now, this is oddly almost exactly the same as the Stupak-Pitts Amendment which passed in the house but was rejected in the Senate LARGELY BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY THE LAW OF THE LAND.

Now lets get into the part where your last braincell committed suicide.

Lets think: President Obama signed a meaningless executive order that only appeases the ignorant and poorly educated. The body of said order basically says "No federal funding for abortion." Now, which part of the voting block likes stuff like that?

Now what does Stupak get out of it?

As for the bit where you broke into hysterics:

Do you actually know what is in Executive order 13535?
Hell, do you even know what it is?

Its the order Obama wrote for Stupak. Which afferms the Hyde Admendment, and says and I quote (about 5 times) "Following the recent passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act ("the Act"), it is necessary to establish an adequate enforcement mechanism to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered), consistent with a longstanding Federal statutory restriction that is commonly known as the Hyde Amendment."

AAAANNNNDDD

"The Act specifically prohibits the use of tax credits and cost-sharing reduction payments to pay for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered) in the health insurance exchanges that will be operational in 2014. The Act also imposes strict payment and accounting requirements to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services in exchange plans (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered) and requires state health insurance commissioners to ensure that exchange plan funds are segregated by insurance companies in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, OMB funds management circulars, and accounting guidance provided by the Government Accountability Office. "

With me so far? Do you get what this means? If the Hyde Act goes away so does this. And until the hyde act goes away, as far as the HCR once you and/or your insurance provider start accepting federal funds they would be prohibited by law to provide money for non-elective abortion procedures.

See why this is a circle jerk? Big old shiat eating grins as the white house signs what is fundamentally a useless piece of paper and scores points with the stupid.

Now the interesting thing is the Stupak-pitts admendment also had language detailing supplemental insurance you could buy to cover elective abortions, which I don't think is in the EO or the Hyde act. Which is funny, since it would have allowed every woman in the country the ability to get cheaper abortions if they so chose.

I've wasted enough of my life on you. Welcome to reality.
 
2010-04-23 03:41:45 AM
Kittypie070: Ashelth 2010-04-23 12:53:05 AM

(kittenhug)
(kittenhug)
(kittenhug)
(comforting purr)


Thanks. Actually that helps.
 
2010-04-23 03:49:28 AM
MeatWrangler: So they are going to kill him for killing someone who killed? This is a hypocrisy mindfuk.

I hope all the people who support abortion and capital punishment get ass cancer and live a long painful life. You are pathetic and worthless.

/not religious
//I just hate all cowards who don't revere all human life as precious


There's nothing wrong with being pro-abortion and pro-death penalty. At least it's consistent.

We don't have to worry about hypocrisy that the stereotypical pro-abortion, anti-death penalty libs or anti-abortion, pro-death penalty cons try to justify.

/Bottom line, More leg room.

//btw, don't give me that "all life is precious" bullshiat. I'm pretty sure there are at least 2 dozen people that would have handed Ms. Dahmer the coat hanger.
 
2010-04-23 03:54:48 AM
Shaggy_C: FarkinHostile: No, he's talking about the "RAPE him! Penis in the ass, Woo hoo! Burn him to death! Torture him slowly!" people.

You're doing it wrong. Jesus. Here's what you're supposed to say:

Imagine my surprise coming into this thread. The smug, sneering liberals of Fark.com are now viciously attacking a criminal. Funny, since you'd normally see these same people decrying the overbearing and abusive prison system in this country. I guess when a white, middle-class American citizen is thrown in jail they deserve scorn and jokes made about prison rape; but if it's an illegal immigrant La Raza member in prison for the same crime they are a 'victim of poor circumstances' and are only there to be rehabilitated. Typical.


I think the abuse stems from the type of the victim, not the perpetrator. Murders come in many flavours, but a lot of them have either a 'helpless' or a 'they had it coming' feel about them; 90% (a number I'm pulling out of my ass btw) of murders are either domestic or criminal-on-criminal. The remaining ones are the ones that get our juices flowing, mostly. Plus, this is an extra special category of that remainder: because this is someone who has been set aside by one side of the political spectrum as 'untouchable'.
 
2010-04-23 04:31:37 AM
Once again METALOCALYPSE scores the solution again.

METALOCALYPSE: "Sandusky, Ohio"
Is there an amusement park there?

NSFW (Not Safe For Work) -- gruesome scenes
http://video.adultswim.com/metalocalypse/sandusky-ohio.html (pops)

Charles Foster Offdensen: "You better hurry up. Closing time is in two minutes."
Eric Jomfru: "All the way over... ?"
Charles Foster Offdensen: "I'd Serpentine if I were you."

(Charles Foster Offdensen closes a pair of heavy metal doors, leaving the brothers Eric Jomfru and Edgar Jomfru to look at a long brick alleyway with crumbling plasterwork)

Charles Foster Offdensen: (into Dethklok cellphone) "It's showtime."
Edgar Jomfru: (spoken to brother Eric Jomfru) "Why should we Serpentine?"
 
2010-04-23 08:35:08 AM
I think we are all missing the point here. He wants out of prison and he has a life sentence. It sounds like a fair deal to me. He is willing to give up his life to get out of prison. We as taxpayers get to take him off the books and he gets his release. So he gets his rapture early and we get a tax break. What is the problem? I vol to drop the capsule, pull the trigger, throw the switch or hit the button, whatever it takes. All lifers and terminally ill should be able to make that choice. But in the lifers case once made it goes thru as fast and humanely as possible.
 
2010-04-23 09:21:54 AM
$Deity didn't tell him this doctor had to die, he made that choice all on his own, in accordance with his beliefs. Pay the price, and stop biatching.

Sin and suffer....is that not the maxim fundies live by?


bulldg4life: arguing that killing Tiller was justified because he was saving the lives of unborn babies.


Rot in hell with the rest of the assholes who feel this is a valid argument
 
2010-04-23 09:55:36 AM
stoli n coke: Unfortunately for George, she couldn't report for jury duty.



She'd have been the only one who couldn't see through his bullshiat.


God bless the miracle worker.
 
2010-04-23 09:56:29 AM
"I would have been acquitted had counsel been allowed to pursue a necessity defense," he said.

Uh... no.
 
2010-04-23 10:08:47 AM
Diogenes: Mock26: Strip him naked, hog tie him, and then toss him into the women's section of a maximum security prison with an assortment of extremely large strap on dildos.

Now how is that punishment?


How YOU doin'?
 
2010-04-23 10:21:36 AM
Ashelth: teh_idiot: Abortion is murder.
Murdering an abortionist is murder. By you farking farkers' logic, Roeper terminated Tiller in his 203rd trimester. At least he didn't dismember a poor little sinless soul and throw it a biohazard container. And he only did it once. And he prevented more murders.

/Not a troll

Ahh christians and abortion. First off I should point out original sin and how all unbaptized children go straight to hell, burning merrily in unending torment while good Christians rise into heaven and sit at god's feet.

Goddamn I love the idiocy in your religion, seriously some of the shiat in the christian holy texts makes the story of Xenu seem like a historical narrative.

There's something nice and easy about taking on Abortion is a sin as a major issue. Its a nice 'feel good' morality that doesn't really require effort or much action on your part to try to prevent.

Hell its not something like fighting to prevent rape, spousal abuse, torture, genocide anything like that. Nope all you need to do is keep writing letters, complaining about it on TV and maybe one day you'll get the law changed!

Then there's the whole absolute arrogance associated with define your morality as right and subjecting EVERYONE to your morality. Again let us go back to that WONDERFUL example of pedophile priests. Where was the outrage? Now I know most christian flavors are against homosexuality and everyone in general is against raping children. So can we explain why our 'family values' politicians are making more of a stink about making abortions harder to get than some sort of oh I don't know legislation or condemnation?

If we look at modern christianity in the US as a whole strictly in the light of preposed legislation you get a really funny skewing of what they view as important.

So in short: I'll keep posting signs in front of churches that have any sort of anti-abortion signs displays whatever which usually say, "The FBI says 1 in 3 women will be raped in their lifetime. Why is abortion a greater crime?" or "Why is abortion a greater sin than god's servants raping the children whose souls they are supposed to guide?"

Goddamn pathetic religion.


I think I love you.
 
2010-04-23 10:27:01 AM
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