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2010-04-22 03:51:51 PM
FTA: "Unfortunately history doesn't get much attention from the public at large. Therefore, in order to get some buzz going, I decided to link a current hot issue to the enduringly popular Nazis. I'm fairly certain this will get some traction in the media and hopefully raise my profile - maybe I can get that distinguished chair now." said Jeffrey Herf, a history professor at the University of Maryland.

In his new book, "Nazis + Terrorists = Sales", Mr Herf argues that Nazi propagandists offered an opportunity that neatly dovetailed with his underlying desire for a modest amount of fame.
 
2010-04-22 04:12:39 PM
Kublai Khan: FTA: "Unfortunately history doesn't get much attention from the public at large. Therefore, in order to get some buzz going, I decided to link a current hot issue to the enduringly popular Nazis. I'm fairly certain this will get some traction in the media and hopefully raise my profile - maybe I can get that distinguished chair now." said Jeffrey Herf, a history professor at the University of Maryland.

In his new book, "Nazis + Terrorists = Sales: How to Godwin Your Way to the New York Times Bestseller List", Mr Herf argues that Nazi propagandists offered an opportunity that neatly dovetailed with his underlying desire for a modest amount of fame.
 
2010-04-22 04:48:43 PM
GODWIN thread over
 
2010-04-22 04:48:45 PM
Shostie: In his new book, "Nazis + Terrorists = Sales: How to Godwin Your Way to the New York Times Bestseller List", Mr Herf argues that Nazi propagandists offered an opportunity that neatly dovetailed with his underlying desire for a modest amount of fame.

Gadafi read it, he didn't like it (new window).
 
2010-04-22 04:48:51 PM
If the Jews and the Muslims had NOT been fighting prior to WW2 then I might give this some consideration but last time I checked the whole Jew-Muslim-Christian crapola has been going on for centuries.
 
2010-04-22 04:49:13 PM
Islamic fundamentalism? All Hitler's fault

www.davidcross.us


Maybe not so much
 
2010-04-22 04:50:01 PM
Racial profiling is bad.

Religious profiling makes sense however.

If your women are dressed like ninjas even when swimming in competition, you're gonna get frisked at the airport.
 
2010-04-22 04:50:39 PM
crazytrpr: GODWIN thread over

I think we're cutting out the middleman now and just going straight to the inevitable
 
2010-04-22 04:51:50 PM
tzzhc4: If the Jews and the Muslims had NOT been fighting prior to WW2 The Crusades then I might give this some consideration but last time I checked the whole Jew-Muslim-Christian crapola has been going on for centuries.

Mohammad didn't like Jews. That's where it all started.
 
2010-04-22 04:52:03 PM
I thought it was the crusades.
 
2010-04-22 04:52:20 PM
I wonder why fark has not greenlit a link yet on all the Muslim sites that got hacked because of the threats to Trey and Matt (creators of Southpark) after the outrage of them being censored....

Anon is up to no good today
 
2010-04-22 04:53:34 PM
drunkenmidnight: I wonder why fark has not greenlit a link yet on all the Muslim sites that got hacked because of the threats to Trey and Matt (creators of Southpark) after the outrage of them being censored....

Anon is up to no good today



Fixed
 
2010-04-22 04:54:17 PM
I would have said that Sayyid Qutb was more responsible than Adolf Hitler, but what would I know?
 
2010-04-22 04:55:08 PM
Kublai Khan: FTA: "Unfortunately history doesn't get much attention from the public at large. Therefore, in order to get some buzz going, I decided to link a current hot issue to the enduringly popular Nazis. I'm fairly certain this will get some traction in the media and hopefully raise my profile - maybe I can get that distinguished chair now." said Jeffrey Herf, a history professor at the University of Maryland.

In his new book, "Nazis + Terrorists = Sales", Mr Herf argues that Nazi propagandists offered an opportunity that neatly dovetailed with his underlying desire for a modest amount of fame.


Done in one.
 
2010-04-22 04:56:22 PM
bachdog: Racial profiling is bad.

Religious profiling makes sense however.

If your women are dressed like ninjas even when swimming in competition, you're gonna get frisked at the airport they're gonna flip out and kill you.


FTFY.
 
2010-04-22 04:56:30 PM
After last night's South Park, we should all learn the name of "Yousef al-Khattab"

He's the ass-pounding muzzie who threatened to murder Trey and Matt if they uttered the word Muhammed in last night's episode.

Seriously. Yousef al-Khattab, wherever you are- EAT A DICK.

P.S. Quote me, you fatwah launching, cock sucking, muzzie loser.
 
2010-04-22 04:56:45 PM
tzzhc4: If the Jews and the Muslims had NOT been fighting prior to WW2 then I might give this some consideration but last time I checked the whole Jew-Muslim-Christian crapola has been going on for centuries.

You know who else has been fighting for centuries?

surbrook.devermore.net
img.photobucket.com
 
2010-04-22 04:58:34 PM
Sticky Hands: tzzhc4: If the Jews and the Muslims had NOT been fighting prior to WW2 then I might give this some consideration but last time I checked the whole Jew-Muslim-Christian crapola has been going on for centuries.

You know who else has been fighting for centuries?


The Sharks and the Jets?
 
2010-04-22 04:59:25 PM
I wonder what Hitler would have to say about that. But now I have to go somewhere other than Youtube to find out. The nerve of some people.
 
2010-04-22 04:59:32 PM
give me doughnuts: tzzhc4: If the Jews and the Muslims had NOT been fighting prior to WW2 The Crusades then I might give this some consideration but last time I checked the whole Jew-Muslim-Christian crapola has been going on for centuries.

Mohammad didn't like Jews. That's where it all started.


To be fair, who does?

/keed
 
2010-04-22 05:01:22 PM
Frak you, Yousef al-Khattab.

I'm gonna name my cat's fleecy toy Mohammed and there's not a frakkin' thing in the Universe you can do about it.

Go smoke your own pole, you artist murdering d1ck.
 
2010-04-22 05:03:48 PM
Hold on a minute...

Mohamed was a anti-semitic, misogynistic pedophile in the Koran. Can we really expect his followers to be any different?
 
2010-04-22 05:04:11 PM
No, the rise of Muslim fundamentalism can pretty much be traced back to the 70's and 80's, with the destruction of secular Arab nationalism (Nasserism) and the US support of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan (and their subsequent victory and mythologizing). Also the PLO being destroyed and replaced by Fatah and Hamas, come to think of it.

Crush people's aspirations for a strong democracy (or at least a basic say in their future) by saddling them with Western-backed dictators and royal families, and in their kitchens and garages they'll come up with some way to fight back. Preferably some way that absolves them of all wrongdoing in either the eyes of the law or in some Higher law.

Since fighting against your government is NOT gonna be legal, even in a democracy, they turn to some other option for absolution. Bingo, 98 virgins, or some other such nonsense. So instead of "do it for your country" it becomes "do it for Jesus/Allah/G-d/etc".

Simple, really. If their own rulers are going to torture and murder them, they can't really rally around them. Their own countries are so corrupt anyway, that they need a rally point, and there's plenty of opportunistic militants who know how to whip up religious fervor for their own ends.
 
2010-04-22 05:05:07 PM
My name is a Uter Mohammed Al-Jahib and I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2010-04-22 05:06:03 PM
... and I thought it was all Bush's fault !
 
2010-04-22 05:06:41 PM
Poor Hitler.

Pretty soon he'll be to blame for Global Warming, tooth decay, and that mess at Goldman-Sachs.

Not saying he doesn't deserve all the pain he's getting, but really. Tooth decay?
 
2010-04-22 05:07:34 PM
Good to hear colonialism had nothing to do with it.
 
2010-04-22 05:08:01 PM
Seriously, is this the part where we insult some world class intolerant asshole by being world class intolerant assholes ourselves? That's fun, and hardly even ironic, right?
 
2010-04-22 05:11:04 PM
Gyrfalcon: Poor Hitler.

Pretty soon he'll be to blame for Global Warming, tooth decay, and that mess at Goldman-Sachs.

Not saying he doesn't deserve all the pain he's getting, but really. Tooth decay?


He's probably to blame for the volcano in Iceland scattering all the ash around. It was actually an act of sabotage during WWII to stop the U.S. from sending more aircraft, but they had a faulty timer which failed to go off until this week....
 
2010-04-22 05:11:19 PM
Why do people hate Jewish people? Seriously, what's the damn problem? Are they really that bad? I've never met one before so I don't know, but I've seriously never understood these issues.

Not a troll, I just read about it all the time and never really bothered to ask. Even google can't really seem to help me out without some massive essay. Can someone here simplify the issue for a lazy bastard like me please?
 
2010-04-22 05:12:15 PM
jakomo002: Seriously, is this the part where we insult some world class intolerant asshole by being world class intolerant assholes ourselves? That's fun, and hardly even ironic, right?

Why do we have to be tolerant? Where is it written that we must be kind and patient with assholes? Isn't that why we live in America?
 
2010-04-22 05:12:26 PM
Im no history major..but weren't the islamic fundies WAY before hitler?
 
2010-04-22 05:13:21 PM
An error of omission, subby.
 
2010-04-22 05:13:29 PM
Well, to be fair, if Hitler had not instituted the Holocaust, then there would have probably been significantly less support in the international community for the formation of Israel in 1948. If there was no Israeli/Palestinian conflict, would radical Islam have such a strong hold on the region?
 
2010-04-22 05:14:14 PM
Killer Refresh Rate: Why do people hate Jewish people? Seriously, what's the damn problem? Are they really that bad? I've never met one before so I don't know, but I've seriously never understood these issues.

wut??? I just can't get over this sentence. You never met a jew, wtf?
 
2010-04-22 05:16:05 PM
halfof33: Killer Refresh Rate: Why do people hate Jewish people? Seriously, what's the damn problem? Are they really that bad? I've never met one before so I don't know, but I've seriously never understood these issues.

wut??? I just can't get over this sentence. You never met a jew, wtf?


I've only met one.
I think I saw another one though.
 
2010-04-22 05:17:02 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: crazytrpr: GODWIN thread over

I think we're cutting out the middleman now and just going straight to the inevitable


That's what Hitler said.
 
2010-04-22 05:18:22 PM
I thought it was Mohammed the bacon-wrapped c*ck pig farker
 
2010-04-22 05:20:33 PM
Bus-ad campaign in South Florida:

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2010-04-22 05:20:55 PM
Gangway Fathead: I thought it was the crusades.

No it started here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Conquest_of_Spain

They started it!
 
2010-04-22 05:21:01 PM
Sticky Hands: tzzhc4: If the Jews and the Muslims had NOT been fighting prior to WW2 then I might give this some consideration but last time I checked the whole Jew-Muslim-Christian crapola has been going on for centuries.

You know who else has been fighting for centuries?


thread over.
 
2010-04-22 05:23:15 PM
halfof33: Killer Refresh Rate: Why do people hate Jewish people? Seriously, what's the damn problem? Are they really that bad? I've never met one before so I don't know, but I've seriously never understood these issues.

wut??? I just can't get over this sentence. You never met a jew, wtf?


Well, I might have without ever knowing. One's religion isn't something that typically comes up in normal conversation. I suppose this is my point, what is it about these people that brings such endless hate and persecution on them?
 
2010-04-22 05:25:45 PM
jakomo002: No, the rise of Muslim fundamentalism can pretty much be traced back to the 70's and 80's, with the destruction of secular Arab nationalism (Nasserism) and the US support of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan (and their subsequent victory and mythologizing). Also the PLO being destroyed and replaced by Fatah and Hamas, come to think of it.

Crush people's aspirations for a strong democracy (or at least a basic say in their future) by saddling them with Western-backed dictators and royal families, and in their kitchens and garages they'll come up with some way to fight back. Preferably some way that absolves them of all wrongdoing in either the eyes of the law or in some Higher law.

Since fighting against your government is NOT gonna be legal, even in a democracy, they turn to some other option for absolution. Bingo, 98 virgins, or some other such nonsense. So instead of "do it for your country" it becomes "do it for Jesus/Allah/G-d/etc".

Simple, really. If their own rulers are going to torture and murder them, they can't really rally around them. Their own countries are so corrupt anyway, that they need a rally point, and there's plenty of opportunistic militants who know how to whip up religious fervor for their own ends.


Fighting against your government IS legal within certain situations. If at anytime our (US) government oversteps it constitutional bounds, the constitution and the clauses regarding treason are invalidated and the states with the backing of the second amendment get to ratify a new constitution and goverment. Will it be peaceful? Maybe. It wasn't the first time for the United States. The good thing is that we get to change our government peacefully every two years and forgo the shooting of people.

The Declaration of Independence makes for a great precedent.
 
2010-04-22 05:27:29 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2010-04-22 05:30:04 PM
Killer Refresh Rate: halfof33: Killer Refresh Rate: Why do people hate Jewish people? Seriously, what's the damn problem? Are they really that bad? I've never met one before so I don't know, but I've seriously never understood these issues.

wut??? I just can't get over this sentence. You never met a jew, wtf?

Well, I might have without ever knowing. One's religion isn't something that typically comes up in normal conversation. I suppose this is my point, what is it about these people that brings such endless hate and persecution on them?


They're just jealous they cant make pastrami like we can. And we have Jerry Seinfeld and Madonna.

//pretty fly for a rabbi
//not actually a rabbi, but I'm circumcised.
///Shalomies to my homies
 
2010-04-22 05:30:21 PM
After the massacre began, the Arab constables deserted, leading the rioters to where Jews were hiding[citation needed]. Cafferata testified:

'On hearing screams in a room I went up a sort of tunnel passage and saw an Arab in the act of cutting off a child's head with a sword. He had already hit him and was having another cut, but on seeing me he tried to aim the stroke at me, but missed; he was practically on the muzzle of my rifle. I shot him low in the groin. Behind him was a Jewish woman smothered in blood with a man I recognized as a[n Arab] police constable named Issa Sheriff from Jaffa in mufti. He was standing over the woman with a dagger in his hand. He saw me and bolted into a room close by and tried to shut me out-shouting in Arabic, "Your Honor, I am a policeman." ... I got into the room and shot him.'[22]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre#Raymond_Cafferata (new window)

Arabs slaughtering Jews in 1929? So the Nazis know how to send radio signals back in time to incite Arab bloodlust!

And as we all know, the only reason Arabs are violent is because of the Israeli occupation that began in 1967, this means the terrorists are time traveling back to 1929 to preemptively kill their future Jewish occupiers.
 
2010-04-22 05:32:13 PM
toppgun: Jerry Seinfeld and Madonna.

That's probably a lot of it right there.
 
2010-04-22 05:34:11 PM
Kittypie070: Frak you, Yousef al-Khattab.

I'm gonna name my cat's fleecy toy Mohammed
and there's not a frakkin' thing in the Universe you can do about it.

Go smoke your own pole, you artist murdering d1ck.


You send a harsh message.
 
2010-04-22 05:35:33 PM
McGrits: we get to change our government peacefully every two years and forgo the shooting of people.

"we get to" means that we are still waiting for crap to change in legislation that should have been changed years ago. For example, marijuana prohibition is total waste of time and resources, and the scheduling of the drug in category I are proof we live in an unjust system. Today, Tylenol killed more people than the Cannabis plant will kill in 10,000 years.

Every 2 or 4 years, the people who hold office are forced to "earn" their position as a representative voice, yet they tend to be lying self-interested jerks who had the campaign money. If people really had a vote, one-person one-vote, Cannabis would be fully legal today.

The Declaration of Independence was printed on hemp. Geo Washington grew and smoked pot. We're all socialized into believing we're "free" compared to say religious states like Iran and Israel and the African Congo; doesn't mean it is true in spirit.
 
2010-04-22 05:35:48 PM
www.shoelace.org

/just because this pic always make me laugh.
 
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